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Neutralhomer is adding a WHOIS template to the talk page of an IP. This IP is a static IP and is known to be used by {{user|Izzedine}}. This is a repeat of an episode in August that ended up in blocks and admin apologies to the IP for the repeated placement of the same template. See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:94.192.38.247#Unblocked.2C_and_an_apology talk page discussion]. [[User:Delicious carbuncle|Delicious carbuncle]] ([[User talk:Delicious carbuncle|talk]]) 03:26, 12 September 2009 (UTC) |
Neutralhomer is adding a WHOIS template to the talk page of an IP. This IP is a static IP and is known to be used by {{user|Izzedine}}. This is a repeat of an episode in August that ended up in blocks and admin apologies to the IP for the repeated placement of the same template. See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:94.192.38.247#Unblocked.2C_and_an_apology talk page discussion]. [[User:Delicious carbuncle|Delicious carbuncle]] ([[User talk:Delicious carbuncle|talk]]) 03:26, 12 September 2009 (UTC) |
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*Izzedine and the anon in question are vandalizing an anon talk page, 3RR is moot in vandalism and this is clear vandalism. DC is doing nothing but stiring the pot and doing a little harrassment. For the full ANI post, please see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Ongoing_Removal_of_Templates here]. - <small style="white-space:nowrap;border:1px solid #900;padding:1px;">[[User:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:#900;background-color:White;">NeutralHomer</span>]] • [[User talk:Neutralhomer|<span style="color:Black;background-color:White;">Talk</span>]] • 03:40, 12 September 2009 (UTC)</small> |
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User:Introman reported by The Four Deuces (talk) (Result: 4 days)
- Three-revert rule violation on
- Liberalism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
- Introman (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 05:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Revert comparison ("compare"): this revision (diff from previous).
Diffs are listed from oldest to newest, dates are in UTC
- 18:39, 7 September 2009 (compare) (edit summary: "Original research to put a marcus aurelius quote to introduce the article. You need a source that says his quote encapsulates liberalism.")
- 19:56, 7 September 2009 (compare) (edit summary: "not an undifferentiated philosophy")
- 23:36, 7 September 2009 (compare) (edit summary: "putting in sourced statement that there is the classical and modern classifications")
- [1] 04:48. 8 September 2009
- Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [2]
- Diff of warning: here
—The Four Deuces (talk) 05:21, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Obviously not reverts but all different edits. The Four Deuces is the one doing the reverts of four DIFFERENT changes. See my complaint against The Four Deuces below. Introman (talk) 05:24, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Result - Technically, four reverts in 24 hours. The 'undifferentiated philosophy' diff is one where Introman restores the Goodin and Pettit reference that others had previously removed. Undoing the action of another editor counts as a revert. This user was previously blocked 48h for edit warring on the same article. See next report for more commentary. EdJohnston (talk) 20:24, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
User:The Four Deuces reported by User:Introman (Result: No action)
Page: {{Liberalism|}}
User being reported: {{The Four Deuces}}
Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]
Comments:
This guy deletes almost EVERYTHING I put into Wikipedia. Though the above is not 4 reverts, but 3, look at the nature of them. There were no reverts by me. Each one was a different edit, and I explained the edits in the edit summaries. I also put in well sourced sentences. But, reflexively he reverts them. He follows me around to various articles trying to revert EVERYTHING I do. He's even now going around trying to get templates that I created deleted. It's getting out of hand. I've violated the 3rr rule once before trying to deal with this guy, and apparently "edit warred" once (though I disagreed with the administrators' call on that one) but have wised up and don't intend to fall into that trap anymore. So now, I'm not reverting but doing something new with each edit, in order to try to contribute SOMETHING, but he STILL insists on reverting EVERYTHING, not matter how well sourced. I can't even get a sentence in! He guards against any changes from me. I don't know what to call his behavior, but it appears to be some kind stalking or harrassment. Please help. Thanks.
Introman (talk) 05:32, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Result - No action. Though this level of reverting is worrisome, only three reverts are reported here, and the Talk page seems to favor the position of The Four Deuces. See a related report just above. When he says "I'm not reverting but doing something new with each edit.." Introman does not seem to be taking in the message of WP:REVERT, which makes clear that anything that undoes the action of another editor is a revert. EdJohnston (talk) 20:39, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
User:Russavia reported by User:Radeksz (Result: 55 hours)
Page: Nazi-Soviet military parade in Brześć (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Russavia (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [6]
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [11]
The user, as can be seen from his/her block log has been blocked for edit warring (and harassment) before [12].
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [13]
Basically this involves Russavia trying to add in "alleged" and "dubious" based on a single unreliable source vs. multiple reliable sources included in the article.
Comments:
- In view of a substantial history of 3RR blocks, I have blocked Russavia for 55 hours. Stifle (talk) 20:55, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm double checking this, so here are the four reverts in sequence:
- dubious; not dubious; dubious = revert; not dubious; dubious restored by Illythr (talk · contribs); not dubious by Poeticbent (talk · contribs); dubious by Illythr; not dubious by Jacurek (talk · contribs). sources replaced with scholarly sources by Illythr; added again by Jacurek; removed by Illythr (current revision)
- disputed; not disputed disputed = revert; not disputed
- alleged; not alleged; alleged = revert; not alleged; alleged = revert; not alleged.
While it is clear that Russavia did revert four times, the dubiety of the underlying sources is an ongoing concern. Not an excuse. John Vandenberg (chat) 10:56, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
User:R. fiend reported by User:BigDunc (Result: 24h)
Page: Irish Volunteers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: R. fiend (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [14]
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: Editor used to be an admin till they lost their tools and are well aware of the 3RR rule.
Comments:
- Well, those 3rd and 4th "reverts" are obvious not reverts, but different edits entirely. Nice try though. -R. fiend (talk) 20:14, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Oh but they are any action that reverses the actions of other editors is a revert you have made 5 now. BigDunc 20:18, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Also here editor appears to be gearing up for another edit war. BigDunc 20:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Result - 24 hours. Apparently four reverts by R.fiend on 8 September, against a pattern of other reverts by him on the same article since mid-August. (He keeps putting back the phrase 'The manifesto further stated..' after others remove it). I looked at Domer48's edits as well but his actions did not seem to quite reach the point of a block. All parties are invited to use the Talk page more and open a WP:Request for comments on any disputed items. To continue to revert while discussing doesn't work very well. Any admin may undo this block if the editor will agree to stop warring on this article. EdJohnston (talk) 02:43, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Edit warring on Chabad messianism (Result: Both warned)
Page: Chabad messianism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Zsero (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and Debresser (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]
- 1st revert: [diff]
- 2nd revert: [diff]
- 3rd revert: [diff]
- 4th revert: [diff]
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [19]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: User_talk:Zsero#Berger, Talk:Chabad_messianism#Berger_quote
Comments: I tried to reason with him. We both made three reverts already. I feel this is getting out of hand, and we need some help.
- What 4th revert? Debresser hasn't linked any reverts, because he knows perfectly well that there are only 3. The claim that Debresser is constantly re-inserting is patent nonsense, and the alleged source is being misrepresented. I have a very low opinion of the alleged source, but he's not stupid; he would not and in fact does not make such a claim. -- Zsero (talk) 19:39, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- I am indeed not reporting a violation of the 3rr. I am just asking for help in resolving the conflict and edit war. Debresser (talk) 19:57, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- I gave my position at the talk page. So long as an absurd claim is being falsely put in the mouth of a source I will delete it. -- Zsero (talk) 20:29, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- It is precisely this uncompromising refusal to listen to reason and consensus of a majority which makes me consider Zsero a potential disruptive editor. I have been a side-party to a conflict between him and another editor once before, and recognise the same behavior here. That was also about this page, see Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard#Poss_OR_on_Chabad_messianism. Debresser (talk) 20:33, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Question for Debresser: Have you even seen the alleged source? Do you have any idea what it actually says? -- Zsero (talk) 20:37, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- What "consensus of a majority" (which is itself a contradiction in terms)? It's just you. -- Zsero (talk) 20:37, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- 1. I have not seen the source itself. 2. You forget the original author of the contentious paragraph. Debresser (talk) 20:42, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- 1. Then how do you have the slightest clue what it says? Why do you insist in inserting something that you have just admitted you have no idea whether it's true??? 2. Two is not a consensus, and in any case that editor hasn't said anything at all. It's been just you, pretending to be a consensus, or a majority, or whatever. And now bringing the matter here. 3. I've reverted this three times, you've reverted it three times; what makes me "disruptive" and you not? -- Zsero (talk) 20:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- 1. I do not know for a fact whether that source makes that statement. I do know the source to exist and the statement to be true. In which case good faith initially prompted me to believe the original editor of the contentious paragraph. Notice that you have shifted your opposition to this paragraph from "nonsense" to "should be in separate section" to "not in source". So are you to be trusted here? 2. You are right that two against one is not consensus, but it is better than one against two, isn't it? 3. Your attitude. Debresser (talk) 22:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- 1. Then how do you have the slightest clue what it says? Why do you insist in inserting something that you have just admitted you have no idea whether it's true??? 2. Two is not a consensus, and in any case that editor hasn't said anything at all. It's been just you, pretending to be a consensus, or a majority, or whatever. And now bringing the matter here. 3. I've reverted this three times, you've reverted it three times; what makes me "disruptive" and you not? -- Zsero (talk) 20:47, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- 1. I have not seen the source itself. 2. You forget the original author of the contentious paragraph. Debresser (talk) 20:42, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- It is precisely this uncompromising refusal to listen to reason and consensus of a majority which makes me consider Zsero a potential disruptive editor. I have been a side-party to a conflict between him and another editor once before, and recognise the same behavior here. That was also about this page, see Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard#Poss_OR_on_Chabad_messianism. Debresser (talk) 20:33, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- I gave my position at the talk page. So long as an absurd claim is being falsely put in the mouth of a source I will delete it. -- Zsero (talk) 20:29, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- I am indeed not reporting a violation of the 3rr. I am just asking for help in resolving the conflict and edit war. Debresser (talk) 19:57, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- 1. You do not know the statement to be true. Not only is the statement untrue, it can't be true, because it's logically impossible. If you claim to know for a fact that there are (significant numbers of) people who hold some belief merely because it can't be proven to be heretical, then you are simply not telling the truth. I have not shifted my argument; the claim is patent nonsense, and therefore Berger (not being an idiot) could not have made it. The claim should not be anywhere in the article, and I have never suggested that it should be; I did note that the quote itself is genuine, and probably does belong in a paragraph about Berger's reaction, but no such paragraph exists. And I've challenged the sourcing since the beginning; Berger couldn't and didn't write any such thing, and you have no knowledge that he did. 2. No, it isn't. Not even a little bit better. 3. You're the one with an attitude, edit-warring to insert a paragraph that you have no basis for believing to be true. -- Zsero (talk) 00:28, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- Result - Both parties warned. Each has made three reverts. If either one continues to revert the article without getting a Talk page consensus first, or opening formal dispute resolution, they may be blocked. EdJohnston (talk) 03:15, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- Neither of us has received this warning on our talkpages. But as far as I am concerned this note is enough. Debresser (talk) 05:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- On what authority do you claim to do this? The claim remains false and nonsensical; why should I leave it there just because one person who admits that he has no idea whether it's true or not insists on it remaining there? -- Zsero (talk) 15:34, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- I have not admitted anything of the kind, and Zsero has continued the edit war in defiance of the above warning with this edit. Debresser (talk) 18:02, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- You admitted it right here in this thread: "I have not seen the source itself". Since you have not seen the source, you can't possibly know what it says, and therefore whether the claim you inserted three times is true. Since no argument whatsoever has been made for keeping that insertion, I have deleted it again, restoring the article to its status quo ante. I have "defied" the purported "warning", because it was not the result of any sort of consensus, but merely one editor's unilateral decision. -- Zsero (talk) 20:58, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- I have not admitted anything of the kind, and Zsero has continued the edit war in defiance of the above warning with this edit. Debresser (talk) 18:02, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- On what authority do you claim to do this? The claim remains false and nonsensical; why should I leave it there just because one person who admits that he has no idea whether it's true or not insists on it remaining there? -- Zsero (talk) 15:34, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
User:Jaquesdemolay92 reported by User:MikeHobday(Result: 24h)
Page: Hare coursing (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Jaquesdemolay92 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
User being reported: 84.203.238.19 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [20]
Plus talk page edits:
Note similar edits by IP editor User:84.203.238.19:
To talk page:
- 1st revert: [31]
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: I haven't warned the editor, as he feels I am the problem. This is a request for a non-involved editor to comment and advice. See vandalism warnings at [32] and [33]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: See attempt on my talk page at [34]. MikeHobday (talk) 22:32, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Result - Jaques was blocked 24 hours by User:Admrboltz. If the IP editor continues to revert, further action can be taken. EdJohnston (talk) 04:30, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
User:TheoloJ reported by User:Vexorg (Result: no violation yet)
Page: Al-Qaeda involvement in Europe (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: TheoloJ (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]
- 1st revert: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Al-Qaeda_involvement_in_Europe&oldid=312669920
- 2nd revert: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Al-Qaeda_involvement_in_Europe&oldid=312671485
- 3rd revert: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Al-Qaeda_involvement_in_Europe&oldid=312673795 - This revert made AFTER I warned him/her that I am reporting the edit war.
- 4th revert: [diff]
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:TheoloJ#Al-Qaeda_involvement_in_Europe
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]
User I am reporting is not interested in the talk page. I did try ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Al-Qaeda_involvement_in_Europe#2006_transatlantic_aircraft_plot
Comments:
I am reporting this user for edit warring. This editor has inserted material in the article that doesn't' belong in the article. After my first revert I started a discussion in the talk page here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Al-Qaeda_involvement_in_Europe#2006_transatlantic_aircraft_plot
The user I ma reporting has completely ignored the discussion and continues to simply revert. This editor has also placed patronising 'welcome to wikipedia' messages on my talk page - I deleted them so seethe history.
The user has also cited my good faith edits and reversions as being 'vandalism' which is complete nonsense of course as I've spelt out to this editor the reasons for my edits on the article talk page and on my own talk page.
I told the user on 22:34, 8 September 2009 that I had reported him/her. On 22:37, 8 September 2009 the user made a 3rd revert after I had warned him/her and has still not entered into any discussion on the talk page of the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Al-Qaeda_involvement_in_Europe#2006_transatlantic_aircraft_plot
- JUST TO ADD: Even though the material should be removed from the article ( and article that should be up for deletion btw ) I shall not make any further edits to the article until this report has been resolved by an administrator. Thanks Vexorg (talk) 22:48, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Hello, if you take a look at the page history and Vexorg's edits you can see he has a history of edit warring, in fact you can see he has been blocked 5 times for edit warring. He has continued to removed sourced material from the article, with 8 sources clearly stating a direct link between those 3 men convicted and Al-Qaeda, I posted the automated messages on Vexorg's user talk page in good faith after he continued to remove heavily sourced material. He responded with a borderline threating message saying "I won't ask you again. Please stop putting patronising templates templates onto my talk page". I have posted a request on Third Opinion while Vexorg took no such steps, preferring to simply edit war and then improperly report me. TheoloJ (talk) 22:56, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- You have been properly reported. You have put material on the article that had no involvement by Al-Qaeda. One or more of the perpetrators meeting al-Qaeda at some back in time does not mean al-Qaeda were involved in the plot in question. A link with Al-qaeda is NOT Al-Qaeda involvement in the plot! There were no sources say Al-Qaeda were involved in this plot. Only a link. The main article, 2006 transatlantic aircraft plot is where those links to Al-qaeda should be cited and sourced.
- I removed your inappropriate additions to the article and promptly went to the talk page and started dialog about your edits. You continued to edit war without bothering to enter into any discussion in the talk page, which should have been your first port of call.
- your claims of 'vandalism' and posting 'Welcome to Wikipedia' templates on my talk page ( when you can see I'm not a new editor ) were both inappropriate and frankly childish. In short you have made silly claims of vandalism, patronising templates on my talk page, ignored the dialog on the Article's talk page and failed to inform me you have asked for a third opinion. Vexorg (talk) 23:04, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- The BBC is considered a reliable source, if you look here (This is one of the sources used on the page by the way), you can see it states "the bombers were "directed some way by elements of al-Qaeda based overseas"." As you pointed out in the article's talk page, I'm new to Wikipedia, so clearly I'm unfamiliar with the appropriate etiquette and protocols, so perhaps you could have tried opening with a less hostile opening than "Don't patronise me". TheoloJ (talk) 23:10, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Your patronisation by putting 'Welcome to Wikipedia' templates on the talk page of an editor that has made over 2,300 edits is nothing to do with you being new and unfamiliar with any appropriate etiquette and protocols. You cannot use your 'newness' to wimipedia as an excuse for citing vandalism in your reverts either. Vexorg (talk) 23:38, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- This is the Welcome to Wikipedia template you palced upon my talk page .... http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Vexorg&oldid=312670364 - Note that it says ... "When removing text, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page." - you'll note that I both left a reason for removal of the text AND I started a section in the talk page about the issue. You ignored the talk page and simply reverted citing 'vandalism'. - you also abused WP:TW by the looks of it. Basically YOU didn't follow the advice of the Welcome to Wikipedia template you patronised me with. Vexorg (talk) 23:43, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Hey, would you mind not patronising me by putting words like "NOT", "AND", "YOU" into capitals? I am capable of reading and I don't need your help deciding what parts of the text are the important bits. Thanks. TheoloJ (talk) 12:40, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- By the way, I didn't know or care how many edits you had made, I never looked at your userpage or contributions, it's not relevant either, you made unconstrutive edits, by removing sourced material and by your edit summary it appears you didn't even read it before removing it, your summary was "NO evidence of Al-Qaeda involvement. Being inspired by or even meeting someone from Al-qaeda is not an Al-qaeda involvement. Please see talk!!" - The information I added neither mentioned inspiration or any meetings, it did however mention the bombers being guided by militants in Pakistan. Since you seem to want to own the page and remove all the information from it, I could consider such edits as nothing more than vandalism. TheoloJ (talk) 12:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- The BBC is considered a reliable source, if you look here (This is one of the sources used on the page by the way), you can see it states "the bombers were "directed some way by elements of al-Qaeda based overseas"." As you pointed out in the article's talk page, I'm new to Wikipedia, so clearly I'm unfamiliar with the appropriate etiquette and protocols, so perhaps you could have tried opening with a less hostile opening than "Don't patronise me". TheoloJ (talk) 23:10, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
No violation Gentlemen, please note the sentence at the top of this page - "Do not continue a dispute on this page. You should try to address the problem through dispute resolution." Luckily, I see you have already done this, but there is no reason for the two of you to continue your spat here. Also, looking at the page history, it seems both of you have reverted each other three times, meaning that there has been no violation of the three-revert rule as of yet. Please continue to use the article talk page instead of reverting each other, and when an uninvolved editor provides you with a third opinion, please respect his decision. Bettia (bring on the trumpets!) 13:14, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
User:Colsandurz45 reported by User:Daedalus969 (Result:User blocked indef for vandalism)
Page: Tony Danza (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Colsandurz45 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [35]
Please also note that the user is vandalizing other's pages, seen here and here.— Dædαlus Contribs 03:57, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [41]
Comments:
Nevermind, the user has been indefinitely blocked for vandalism.— Dædαlus Contribs 04:13, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
User:BLIC-NEWSPAPER reported by User:Vitriden (Result: no violation yet)
Page: Miroslav Mišković (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: BLIC-NEWSPAPER (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]
- 1st revert: [42]
- 2nd revert: [43]
- 3rd revert: [44]
- 4th revert: [45]
- 5th revert: [46]
- 6th revert: [47]
- 7th revert: [48]
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [49]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [50]
Comments:
I am reporting this user for edit warring, getting the same copyright violation and/or libelous material back to the article for almost ten times, without regard to my warnings.--Vitriden (talk) 11:20, 9 September 2009
(UTC)
No violation – there must be four or more reverts within a 24 hour period for the 3-Revert Rule to apply; the links you have provided do not meet these criteria. The three revert rule allows 3 reverts per any 24 hour period, but the user has only made one revert today, and the reverts given go back to September 2. Also, there has not been any attempt to resolve this issue on the Talk page, and the only warnings were general vandalism warnings given on the 3rd and 7th. I strongly suggest you try entering into a dialogue with this user first. Bettia (bring on the trumpets!) 12:01, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- While there hasn't been any violations of the three revert rule, there does seem to be some merit in what Vitriden has reported, specifically the copyright violations and the way the edits are inserted into the article. I'll put this page on my watch list and take any action necessary. Bettia (bring on the trumpets!) 13:25, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
IBDP (result: no violation yet)
I would like to report the behavior of user Tvor65[51] for edit warring at IBDP
and for WP:OUTING a website I run as Tvor65'sreason for undoing my edit when my website is NOT used as the source for the edit. Thank you. ObserverNY (talk) 11:31, 9 September 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
Declined I only see two reverts, not three (two of those diffs are to your own edits), and no attempt to discuss these things to reach a consensus. You also didn't give the user a proper 3RR warning, you just shouted at him. I would suggest using proper warnings and starting a discussion at the talk page, rather than to jump here and hope to immediately solve your problem with blocks. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 11:45, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- Dear ANI - User Tvor65 has a long history of attacking my edits in the IBDP. Now he/she has brought in User HelloAnnyong whom I have another complaint against for stalking me in the Van Jones article, to complete the 3rd delete. Tvor65 is constantly lacks civility, has not contributed anything of substance to the articles, merely tries to start edit wars. His/her allegation that I am trying to insert information from my website is unfounded and without merit. ObserverNY (talk) 13:34, 9 September 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
- Um, Tvor didn't contact me about that. I have a watchlist, and I watch the IBDP page, and I agreed with him/her. That's all. By the way, Observer, your last revert was your third in 24 hours. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 13:51, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- @ObserverNY: This is the noticeboard for edit warring, not for civility issues, conduct issues, or outing. If you want to report one of those, you can do it elsewhere. As for edit warring, now you yourself are warring, against 3 other users; you need to stay at the talk page or you will be blocked. And for someone who is complaining about incivility, this message is not exactly civil either. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 14:09, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- Um, Tvor didn't contact me about that. I have a watchlist, and I watch the IBDP page, and I agreed with him/her. That's all. By the way, Observer, your last revert was your third in 24 hours. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 13:51, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- Dear ANI - User Tvor65 has a long history of attacking my edits in the IBDP. Now he/she has brought in User HelloAnnyong whom I have another complaint against for stalking me in the Van Jones article, to complete the 3rd delete. Tvor65 is constantly lacks civility, has not contributed anything of substance to the articles, merely tries to start edit wars. His/her allegation that I am trying to insert information from my website is unfounded and without merit. ObserverNY (talk) 13:34, 9 September 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
- I do apologize for that, I was frustrated with being ganged up on once again and as you can see, I went and checked the user's page and welcomed the new editor. It doesn't matter. I won't be touching the IB articles any further. Thank you for your consideration. ObserverNY (talk) 15:16, 9 September 2009 (UTC)ObserverNY
User:69.210.133.130 reported by User:CyberGhostface (Result: template semi-protected)
Page: Template:Stephen King (edit | [[Talk:Template:Stephen King|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: 69.210.133.130 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [56]
Since two other editors disagree with him (User:Jmj713 and I) he was asked to bring it to the discussion page, which he ignored.
For the record, while these are in the last 24 hours, he's been edit warring since the 7th. So technically he hasn't broken the 3RR yet (I think).--CyberGhostface (talk) 14:29, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Warned As this user hasn't edited in over 12 hours, I've placed a warning on his talk page and placed this template on my watchlist - this should do for the time being, although obviously he's in a different timezone so this should be one for another admin to keep an eye on. Hopefully he'll engage in the discussion on the talk page. Bettia (bring on the trumpets!) 17:52, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Page protected After I warned this user, he made another revert under another IP (check the template history - the same reversion with a similar edit summary as before). I don't think blocking will solve this so I'm semi-protecting this template for a week. If anyone feels this is too harsh / lenient, please feel free to amend this. Bettia (bring on the trumpets!) 08:16, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
User:Javalover100 reported by User:Atama (Result: blocked for 1 week)
Page: Peaberry Coffee (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Javalover100 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [60]
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [66]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [67]
Comments:
This editor's behavior was brought to my attention by a notification at the conflict of interest noticeboard. I saw that the editor had already violated WP:3RR but hadn't been notified of this yet so I left a notice and reverted them. They ignored the notice and reverted again.
As you can see from the editor's history, it is a single-purpose account which has only acted to remove sourced information from the article. The editor has reverted the same information 25 times in the past week (nearly a dozen times in the past 48 hours). There was a request on their talk page days ago to not remove sourced info from the article, but it was ignored. In fact, this editor's entire edit history consists of reverting the same info on that article, and they've never made any attempt to communicate with anyone on Wikipedia. An indef block might be necessary but at least a short block might get the message that what they're doing isn't right. -- Atama頭 16:33, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
I've left a notification that I've filed this report with a personal request to discuss things on the article talk page (rather than a template), but I don't have high hopes. -- Atama頭 16:43, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Blocked – for a period of 24 hours As this is their first block, 24 hours should suffice for now. Bettia (bring on the trumpets!) 17:41, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- This user has had his blocked extended to a week for sockpuppetry. Bettia (bring on the trumpets!) 08:11, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
User:KhatriNYC reported by User:Ncmvocalist (Result: 24h)
Page: Khatri (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: KhatriNYC (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [68]
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [73]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: link
Comments:
Clearly is not going to learn in the absence of a block for assumptions of bad faith and blatant edit-warring. See also the edit summaries employed in [74]. Ncmvocalist (talk) 17:51, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
User:81.151.144.222 reported by McGeddon (talk) (Result: 24h)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Heatseeker (video game) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). 81.151.144.222 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 19:01, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- Revert comparison ("compare"): this revision (diff from previous).
Diffs are listed from oldest to newest, dates are in UTC
- 22:06, 7 September 2009 (compare) (edit summary: "Undid revision 312341445 by Eik Corell (talk)")
- 09:47, 8 September 2009 (compare) (edit summary: "rv v")
- 14:37, 8 September 2009 (compare) (edit summary: "rv v")
- 15:38, 8 September 2009 (compare) (edit summary: "rv v")
- 18:17, 9 September 2009 (compare) (edit summary: "rv v")
- 18:53, 9 September 2009 (compare) (edit summary: "rv v")
- Diff of warning: here
- Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: here
Comments: This IP is doing nothing but edit warring on a handful of articles. It's unclear whether the editor is reverting material they originally added from other accounts, or is wikihounding User:Geoff B by picking arbitrary edits to revert-war over.
- Blocked for the report below William M. Connolley (talk) 19:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
User:81.151.144.222 reported by User:Favonian (Result: 24h)
Page: Voyage Century Online (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: 81.151.144.222 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [79]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [80]
Comments:Other articles likewise involved: Heatseeker (video game), Shellshock 2: Blood Trails, Evil Dead: A Fistful of Boomstick, The Mummy Returns
User:200.158.243.232 reported by User:Andrzejbanas (Result: 24h)
Page: The Matrix (series) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: 200.158.243.232 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]
This user has also made similar edits without acknowledgeing the talk page for discussion or consensus. See here, (vandalism:http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Iron_Man_(film)&diff=312830130&oldid=312829117], [85], [86]. This user has done similar edits for pages regarding The Godfather films, the list of action films, and the List of adventure films. All of which have been brought up on their selective talk pages.
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: The user has been warned by me and anothe r user
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [87]
Comments:
User:201.68.136.237 reported by User:Andrzejbanas (Result: no action for now)
Page: List of action films of the 2000s (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: 201.68.136.237 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [92]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: here and here and here several times.
Comments:
This IP has also been editing under the IPs 201.68.139.32 [93], 201.68.113.230 [94] and is 'evading a ban through this IP:200.158.243.232 User talk:200.158.243.232
Stale Looking at the page history, you're very lucky no-one picked this up yesterday otherwise the two of you would have been blocked (I counted 8 reverts apiece, and the IPs edits clearly weren't vandalism). However, judging by this message, it seems this one's over for now so I'll let this slide. Please, if anything like this kicks off again, do NOT simply revert blindly - ask for a third opinion instead. Bettia (talk) 18:24, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
User:Altenmann reported by User:Altenmann (Result: 24h)
Page: On Genocide and Crimes Against Humanity Committed in Albania during the Communist Regime for Political, Ideological and Religious Motives (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Altenmann (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
I am falsely being accused in revert war and threathened with administrative action. In fact, I was trying hard to comply with the requests of the opponent. One my edit in this time period was addinng the reference to a deleted unreferenced text. My another edit was removing any words which may be considered as original research or WP:SYNTH. My last edit (actual revert) was fixing an obvious error: a person erroneously assumed that I the term in question was not used in the cited book.
I find this action of the opponenet as incivil intimidation and strongarming, and I would like thgis edtor was explained that his behavior is improper. - Altenmann >t 20:14, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- First of all, it's customary to put a note on the user's talk page before reporting their violations of policy. That's all I did; it was not an attempt to threaten or bully you. You violated the policies here, I spelled out the violation, and gave you a chance to correct your error. You chose instead to report me without a warning on my own talk page.
- Second, you did blatantly violate the 3RR: you made four reverts in 24 hours. The fact that you added a reference to your revert, or that you believed you were correcting another user's error, does not make it less of a revert. It would be better to try to achieve consensus on the page rather than going against that consensus as you currently are. Below are your four reverts today. csloat (talk) 20:22, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- 1st revert: 15:48, 8 September 2009
- 2nd revert: 09:52, 9 September 2009
- 3rd revert: 12:26, 9 September 2009
- 4th revert: 12:56, 9 September 2009
Previous version reverted to: [95]
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [96]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Extensive discussion here [97]
Comments:
Comment Why are you reporting yourself? King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 20:21, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- It appears he is trying to report me for calling him on the edit warring rather than himself for edit warring. It's my perception he does not believe he violated 3RR but I'm not fully clear on that. csloat (talk) 20:28, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- And for me it is fully clear that this case is blatant abuse of WP:3RR:
- -I make an edit
- -Commodore Sloat reverses it
- -I make a different edit
- -Commodore Sloat reverses it
- -I make a still different edit
- -Commodore Sloat reverses it.
It happens that my edits has one term in common. So Commodore Sloat decides I am reversing his actions. And his actions is reverting whatever I write. Very nice wikilawyering, thank you. Since I am no longer in the mood of fighting self-righteous ones in whatever topics, I declared in the talk of the page in question that I am no longer going to edit that page. - Altenmann >t 01:43, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, looks like 4R to me William M. Connolley (talk) 09:23, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
User:VMAsNYC reported by User:Psantora (Result: Declined)
Page: The Shells (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: VMAsNYC (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: 18:32, 7 September 2009
- 1st revert: 19:57, 8 September 2009
- 2nd revert: 00:46, 9 September 2009
- 3rd revert: 15:39, 9 September 2009
- 4th revert: 16:21, 9 September 2009
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: 17:04, 9 September 2009
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: 15:58, 9 September 2009
Comments:
This user has consistently reverted my contributions to this page. Take note of the date formatting for the references for links for a good example in each revert listed above. Also note that there has been extensive discussion of some of these issues on my talk page as well as an admin he reached out to. I deliberately left the disputed images out of my future edits to the page while I was waiting for a response on the talk page. ~ PaulT/C 22:06, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
Declined Not a serious pattern at this time. Engage user on the talk pages to come to a consensus, or move on to dispute resolution. Nja247 07:10, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Note, the user in question has submitted an additional request below. I will make a response there. ~ PaulT/C 23:57, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
[[User:]] reported by [[User:]] (Result: malformed, already protected)
Nemonoman. reported by jones.liam
12:28, 9 September 2009 Nemonoman (talk | contribs) m (54,272 bytes) (→Teachings)
12:44, 9 September 2009 Nemonoman (talk | contribs) m (52,919 bytes) (→Teachings)
12:43, 9 September 2009 Nemonoman (talk | contribs) m (53,045 bytes) (→Teachings)
01:57, 9 September 2009 Nemonoman (talk | contribs) m (49,203 bytes) (→Teachings: Restoring earlier versions. Uninflected quotes are not typically used in these sorts of summaries. Need to use secondary, not primary sources per WP:RS)
17:14, 9 September 2009 Nemonoman (talk | contribs) m (47,406 bytes) (→Teachings: (Re-)adding some information from recent edits by Jones.liam)
Yes I have many times discussed this issue with Nemonoman 9he wont reply just reverts) that Meher Baba repeatedly stated that He left NO teachingss so a main title called 'Teachings' is wrong on so many levels. I have given original quotes, secondary sources. He wont discuss. It is a problem. as editors we all have worked together on some issues, (see discussion) not as smooth as I would have liked, but some progress has been made re links, references, new material and the like. This 'Teachings' title problem is a sticking point with Nemonoman and is a very very similiar dispute to one a few years back (2006 archives 2 and 3) when he would not yield on the fact (now proven and changed) that the section on Townsend then was far far to big in an article on Meher Baba and made the article very unbalanced indeed. It was eventually removed with intervention by very vary part time wiki editors (Baba followers, whom yes I did know) who paid a price when Nemonoman tried to stop them with a sock puppet ruling. Townsend was eventually whittled down by consensus and common sense but I think this editor holds a grudge and is territorial. I am a researcher and 30 year + follower of Meher Baba. I know that "Universal Work" is what everyone in the Baba community (I know) call MB's work, NOT "Teachings" .
“I do not teach anything. I make the learned forget. I have come not to teach but to awaken." Meher Baba
Kalchuri, Bhau: "Meher Prabhu: Lord Meher, The Biography of the Avatar of the Age. Meher Baba", Manifestation, Inc. 1986. p. 1487.
I enjoy Wikipedia but this sort of issue spoils it. This editor has an ownership issue with this webpage. Much else about the consensus process is working OK. But another complaint about Legacy may be avoided if this editor is prepared to resist new input.
--Jones.liam (talk) 00:49, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Declined – malformed report. Please use the "Click here to create a new report" link at the top of this page, which gives a template report, and provide complete diffs. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 01:04, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Page protected – there appears to be a content dispute on the page. Consider dispute resolution. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 02:10, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
User:67.80.201.54 reported by User:Alex 101 (Result: No vio)
Page: Sublime (band) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: 67.80.201.54 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
An anon (67.80.201.54) is repeatedly changing Rome to Bradley Nowell in the current members section in the Sublime article. Sublime has reunited with a new singer and they're doing a live show next month, see the reunion section for more details. Alex (talk) 02:24, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- 1st revert: [98]
- 2nd revert: [99]
- 3rd revert: [100]
- 4th revert: [101]
- 5th revert: [102]
- 6th revert: [103]
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [104]
Comments:
No violation -- there appears to be a content dispute on the page. Consider dispute resolution. Nja247 07:12, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
User:Dazedbythebell reported by Liam.jones (Result: No vio)
Page: Meher Baba (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Dazedbythebell (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
13:17, 9 September 2009
Previous version reverted to: [14:42, 9 September 2009 ]
- 1st revert: [diff]
- 2nd revert: [diff]
- 3rd revert: [diff]
- 4th revert: [diff]
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]
Comments:
After this revert two weeks of work and discussion were removed in one fell swoop.
It is a huge revert done to time with a protection
Much good new copy and verifiable data undone without discussion.
see discussion page as I have commented there
--Jones.liam (talk) 02:46, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
No violation Yet another malformed, silly report. No links or diffs were provided, and if you look at Dazedbythebell's contribs you see he hasn't even edited the page in hours, and has been staying at the discussion page. Jones.liam, you will be blocked the next time you file a bad report like this. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 03:16, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
User:Biophys reported by User:YMB29 (Result: 24h)
Page: Human_rights_in_the_Soviet_Union (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Biophys (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
The user is starting an edit war again.
Another user made a change to a section of the article:
Biophys then proceeded to revert the change (that is what he said in the summary). However this was just a pretext. He reverted not only the change but the whole article to a version he likes (but fails to prove/discuss):
I noticed it and reverted his sneaky changes, but he and User:Bobanni (who might be Biophys' sock) keep on reverting. They are resuming an edit war from over a year ago.
I made numerous attempts to discuss the issues (you can see on the talk page [105], [106], [107]), but Biophys fails to carry on a discussion and just reverts. Trying to talk to him only proved a waste of time.
-YMB29 (talk) 16:05, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- The only revert warring I see here is coming from you, sprinkled with a good dose of bad faith. Please stop such behavior. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:34, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- How so, explain? You don't see the edit he made on the 15th of June? You don't see what went on on the talk page?
- I think you should stay out of this. Your objectivity is very questionable here becuase of your association with Biophys. For example, he supported you in this arbitration... -YMB29 (talk) 18:11, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Reporter blocked for 24h for edit warring William M. Connolley (talk) 17:52, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- That was fast! I could not even respond. YMB29 was already blocked twice for edit warring in this article, see here and he was the only one who reverted this article 3 times during 24 hours. Yesterday, he came again and suddenly reverted a stable version of the article [108] that existed for several months. He did so without any explanation except the aggressive edit summary which targets a user instead of addressing any content. He made only 501 edits in WP and a significant part of them are reverts [109]. As about me, I debated a lot with YMB29, for example here,here,here. I can talk more.Biophys (talk) 18:15, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- I only got blocked before because I did not realize about 3RR. You make more reverts but you are careful to avoid more than 3 in 24 hours. Plus you have Bobanni to help you.
- You reverted the stable version (all changes since the 3rd of Nov. of last year) on the 15th of June and tried to hide it. Anyone can see on the discussion page (if they actually look) that you failed to respond and continued to revert. -YMB29 (talk) 18:11, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Uh, William, where's the 3RR violation here? Where is there even three reverts here? Given that I've seen you let slide much more egregious violations of the letter and spirit of the 3RR restriction why were you so fast to block here?radek (talk) 23:36, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh wait, my most sincere apologies - I did not read the text carefully enough. radek (talk) 23:38, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
I still want this resolved. I got blocked for reporting an edit war? I guess I should have continued edit warring with Biophys...
Again, all the changes that were made from 3 Nov. 2008 to 15 June 2009 were reverted by Biophys. Look here you can see that the versions are exactly the same!
So is anyone going to do something about it or just continue to not care. Is there an honest admin here, or do I have to report admin abuse?
Looks like the admins' decisions were influenced by Piotrus' initial comment, who of course supports Biophys, based on their history.
-YMB29 (talk) 18:11, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
User:Swancookie reported by User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (Result: more info)
Page: Jessicka (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Swancookie (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [110] (art blog sourcing); [111] (subject-sourced account of 3d party wedding)
- 1st revert: [112] (art blog sourcing)
- 2nd revert: [113] (subject-sourced account of 3d party wedding)
- 3rd revert: [114] (subject-sourced account of 3d party wedding)
- 4th revert:
[115][116] (art blog sourcing, link corrected)
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [117] Swancookie previously blocked for edit warring on same article, no additional warnings required, especially since there are four reverts in two hours today
Example of link to attempt to resolve dispute on article: [118] This is a current flare-up in a long-running dispute over poorly sourced promotional claims in a walled garden of BLP articles regarding various minor-league LA based cult figures affiliated with a social networking site which encourages users to promote each other on Wikipedia
Comments:
Reverts 1 and 4 should be seen as clear vandalism. Briefly, a blog hosted on the site of an art magazine claimed that Jessicka was listed as an artist's "muse" in a gallery listing for the artist's show. The blog clearly fails the tests required for inclusion as a source in a BLP. Even more important, the listing itself can be viewed online (a reference User:Swancookie is careful to avoid), and does not mention Jessicka, as a "muse" or otherwise. [119] (In fact, Jessicka even goes entirely unmentioned on the artist's own website [120], indicating just how dubious this promotional claim really is.)
Reverts 2 and 3 restore incorrect links to Jessicka's self-published description of Marilyn Manson's wedding [121]. The text involved goes beyond what's in the source; it's a self-published source involving 3d parties, raising BLP issues, particularly given the exaggeration of the claim. In the larger dispute, accounts of who-went-to-whose wedding reports have been a particular sore point, and the consensus has developed that such accounts are trivia, not appropriate to include in Wikipedia articles. (Note, for example, that similar material has been removed, apparetly, without objection, from the Dita Von Teese article.[122]
There is no good-faith content dispute here; User:Swancookie simply reappears periodically to reinsert previously deleted material, attacks the motives of those who disagree about the editing (most frequently attacking me), and trolling around hoping to get support by asking for "third" opinions (more like 33rd by now) while refusing to discuss policy. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 19:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- [123] isn't obviously a revert. The 4th revert you've marked is a link not a diff and it is old. Can't see why 1, 4 are vandalism William M. Connolley (talk) 20:53, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- Fixed link for fourth revert.
The edit which you say "isn't obviously a revert" adds this text to the article:
"Jessicka was one of the 60 guests who attended Marilyn Manson's wedding to burlesque performer Dita Von Teese on December 3, 2005, in a non-denominational ceremony at Gottfried Helnwein's castle in County Tipperary, Ireland."
The previously removed version [124] of the parallel text read:
"While in Europe, Jessicka attended long-time friend Manson's wedding to burlesque performer Dita Von Teese on December 3, 2005, in a non-denominational ceremony at Gottfried Helnwein's castle in County Tipperary, Ireland"
The texts are pretty much the same (although the sourcing is different, but in neither case BLP-compliant).
The case for the other two reverts being vandalism is fairly straightforward. First, the editor is adding a previously deleted blog-sourced claim to a BLP, after being repeatedly told by multiple editors that such blog sources can't be used in BLPs. Second, the claim the blog is cited for has already been proved incorrect, and Swancookie knows it's been proven incorrect. It relates to the "listing" of an art exhibit by an art gallery; that listing is online and can easily be viewed, as linked above. [[125] Despite this link being child's play to identify, editor Swancookie substitutes a general link to the gallery site, to make it appear as though there is a second, reliable source for the claim.
This is more complex vandalism than the norm, but I don 't think there's any question that seizing on an incorrect assertion in an unreliable source and incorrectly citing the relevant reliable source to disguise the error is unacceptable editing. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 02:55, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
User:Sean.hoyland reported by User:No More Mr Nice Guy (Result: 24h)
Page: Marc Garlasco (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Sean.hoyland (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
There is no definitive previous version since the article has been worked on during this time period. I only added reverts where the edit summary indicates the user used the undo button per the 3RR report helper tool.
I'm fairly certain there are more reverts in there.
- 1st revert: [126]
- 2nd revert: [127]
- 3rd revert: [128]
- 4th revert: [129]
- 5th revert: [130]
- 6th revert: [131]
- 7th revert: [132]
- 8th revert: [133]
- 9th revert: [134]
- 10th revert: [135]
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [136]
I have not been involved in whatever dispute is going on. I just saw an egregious violation and reported it.
Comments:
No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 20:10, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- Reverts of BLP violations do not count against the 3RR. Unsourced accusations calling a living person "Nazi obsessed" should be deleted on sight. Forum links used to disparage a living person should be deleted on sight. Unsourced accusations of a living persons username at a forum having Nazi overtones should be deleted on sight. This report is without merit and should be ignored. nableezy - 20:19, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- Those are not the reasons given in most of the edit summaries. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 20:35, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- Look at the edits, Sean was removing BLP violations such as citing defamatory information to a blog or an unsourced "Marc Garlasco - Is HRW's Anti-Israel Investigator A Nazi-Obsessed Collector" (bold in original) and other clear-cut BLP vios. Those do not count against the 3RR. But you are right that Sean should make clear in his edit summaries he is claiming a BLP exception to the 3RR. Ill go remind him of that. nableezy - 20:39, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- Those are not the reasons given in most of the edit summaries. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 20:35, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Blocked the IP for 24h for 3RR. SH is on thin ice. Curious as to NMMNG's role in this William M. Connolley (talk) 20:45, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- I'm astonished and saddened that SH is on thin ice. I'm sure he'll figure it out just fine.Cptnono (talk) 22:07, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- Ice ? It's 36C here. Comments noted though. Some eyes on the article from BLP/N would probably help along with closer admin monitoring of the article and other HRW related articles on the basis of the sanctions. Sean.hoyland - talk 02:46, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
User:Tiamut reported by User:Jaakobou (Result: prot)
Page: Operation Defensive Shield (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Tiamut (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 1st revert: 09:34, 9 September 2009, removing, "nine terror attacks between March 2-5", originally in article between June 2008-August 2009[137], removed repeatedly --sans explanation -- by IP (sample 1, 2, 3), reinserted in 02:55 by Jaakobou.[138]
- Comment: IP requested Tiamut edit-war for them and has made no attempt at discussion on the article talk page.[139]
- 2nd revert: 16:02, 9 September 2009, revert Jalapenos do exist.[140]
- 3rd revert: 19:59, 9 September 2009, large edit - sample re-insertions without discussion: (a) "According to" in aftermath, (b) "unequivocal victory", as well as (c) controversial ' Cheryl Rubenberg ' source. Corrections and concerns were made by Jaakobou.[141]
- 4th revert: 17:02, 10 September 2009, large "undo all of Jaakobou's (edit)" revert - sample issues: (a) "According to", (b) "unequivocal victory" (used 2 times in the same paragraph), (c) removal of "Israeli success" (Jenin and Bethlehem surrendered.), (d) reinsertion of controversial Cheryl Rubenberg source.
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [142], [143] - She's also been blocked for edit-warring before and edit warred recently on Battle of Jenin, a sub-article of Operation Defensive Shield (warned by Black Kite).
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: Talk:Operation_Defensive_Shield#Recent_edits
Comments:
Tiamut is not a new user, and a combative approach supplemented by 4 reverts to the work of others in approx. 30 hours are not okay, especially when just recently she violated 3RR on a sub-article of the same article (see above note). Tiamut has been recently warned to avoid adversarial behavior by 3 separate admins.
- [144] - I don't think I'm following you either. Jim likes your edit so it's correct to make no matter what Jaakobou says? What kind of dispute resolution is that? Jaakobou made a fairly strong argument about the dispute surrounding the UN fact-finding mission. Do you have a response to the argument, or will you just continue with the "I am right, you are wrong" line? —Ynhockey (Talk) 20:01, 28 August 2009 (UTC) static link
- [145] - Edit Warring - I looked at the report about you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring and though I declined to block based on that report, it is clear that you may need to seek a less adversarial way of editing on controversial articles. I understand that it takes two to edit-war, but it would be better not to allow yourself to be sucked into blindly reverting. Thanks, Black Kite 00:36, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
- [146] - Decorum - I noticed a post that you had made, and I hoped that you would think about striking parts of it to help preserve the civil atmosphere and decorum of Wikipedia. Phrases like "So please take your supposedly "warm regards" Jaakobou, and stuff them" and this don't really help, although I do understand that you and Jaakobou have a history. I really want to echo Black Kite's words here; it would be great if you could continue the excellent work you are doing on Wikipedia without edit warring as much; try to voluntarily restrict yourself to 1RR and discuss calmly on the talk page (giving yourself at least 10 minutes between each reply) before undoing an edit. NW (Talk) 22:03, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
2009-09-10T21:14:03 Skomorokh (talk | contribs | block) m (28,708 bytes) (Protected Operation Defensive Shield: Full protection: dispute. using TW ([edit=sysop] (expires 21:14, 17 September 2009 (UTC)) [move=sysop] (expires 21:14, 17 September 2009 (UTC)))) William M. Connolley (talk) 22:12, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
User:Paweł5586 reported by User:Jim Sweeney (Result: )
Page: Pidkamin massacre (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
User being reported: Paweł5586 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [link]
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [diff]
Comments:
User talk:Paweł5586 keeps removing citation and ref improve tags from article see here User talk:Paweł5586#Palikrowy massacre for earlier this month when User:Paweł5586 was asked not to remove tags etc --Jim Sweeney (talk) 09:27, 11 September 2009 (UTC)