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*'''Keep''' - It is really funny how the only reasons people arguing delete are saying "not in the project namespace" (makes no sense since redirects can go from project to userspace), "redirects should be reserved for serious pages" (then why would [[WP:TROUT]] and [[WP:BEARDMUSTGO]] still exist), "nothing links to them except their targets" (I do not see how this has ANYTHING to do with redirects), or no argument at all. Obviously, people just do not understand the humor of these redirects, so they attack them. This does not seem like a judicious decision to me. <span class="plainlinks" style="font-color:#003153;color:#003153;">— [[User:Parent5446|Parent5446]] <sup>([[User talk:Parent5446|t]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=edit&preload=User%3AParent5446%2FMediaWiki%2FTalkPageMessage&editintro=User%3AParent5446%2FMediaWiki%2FTalkPageInstructions§ion=new&title=User+talk%3AParent5446&create=Annoy+this+user&preloadtitle=My%20Message%20Title n] [[Special:Contributions/Parent5446|c]] [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username=Parent5446&site=en.wikipedia.org k] [[Special:Emailuser/Parent5446|e]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Listusers&limit=1&username=Parent5446 l])</sup></span> 20:25, 26 March 2008 (UTC) |
*'''Keep''' - It is really funny how the only reasons people arguing delete are saying "not in the project namespace" (makes no sense since redirects can go from project to userspace), "redirects should be reserved for serious pages" (then why would [[WP:TROUT]] and [[WP:BEARDMUSTGO]] still exist), "nothing links to them except their targets" (I do not see how this has ANYTHING to do with redirects), or no argument at all. Obviously, people just do not understand the humor of these redirects, so they attack them. This does not seem like a judicious decision to me. <span class="plainlinks" style="font-color:#003153;color:#003153;">— [[User:Parent5446|Parent5446]] <sup>([[User talk:Parent5446|t]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=edit&preload=User%3AParent5446%2FMediaWiki%2FTalkPageMessage&editintro=User%3AParent5446%2FMediaWiki%2FTalkPageInstructions§ion=new&title=User+talk%3AParent5446&create=Annoy+this+user&preloadtitle=My%20Message%20Title n] [[Special:Contributions/Parent5446|c]] [http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/Tool1/wannabe_kate?username=Parent5446&site=en.wikipedia.org k] [[Special:Emailuser/Parent5446|e]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Listusers&limit=1&username=Parent5446 l])</sup></span> 20:25, 26 March 2008 (UTC) |
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The closing admin should be aware of canvassing by Basketball110: |
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Maximillion Pegasus [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Maximillion_Pegasus&diff=prev&oldid=201136710], Milk's Favorite Cookie [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Milk%27s_Favorite_Cookie&diff=prev&oldid=201136493], RC-0722 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:RC-0722&diff=prev&oldid=201136796], Einsteinewton [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Einsteinewton&diff=prev&oldid=201137165], Thisisborin9 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Thisisborin9&diff=prev&oldid=201137357], Parent5446 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Parent5446&diff=prev&oldid=201137427], Burner0718 [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Burner0718&diff=prev&oldid=201136885]. Also, several people who have commented here are on the "waiting lists" for these cabals, asking to be "approved" by Diligent Terrier, and so have a conflict of interest in participating here. — Carl <small>([[User:CBM|CBM]] · [[User talk:CBM|talk]])</small> 20:37, 26 March 2008 (UTC) |
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====[[Random: The Album]] → [[Journey through the Secret Life of Plants]]==== |
====[[Random: The Album]] → [[Journey through the Secret Life of Plants]]==== |
Revision as of 20:37, 26 March 2008
March 22
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on March 22, 2008
Underlying assumptions → Chafe
Dancing with the Chafe, Chafing with the Stars → Dancing with the Stars (Australian TV series)
Fauxpan, Fapan → Japan
The Anti-Flame Barnstar → Template:The Anti-Flame Barnstar
Wikipedia:GEEK → User:Diligent Terrier/Nerd Cabal
Used as a shortcut for some sort of joke page. — Carl (CBM · talk) 17:22, 22 March 2008 (UTC) Also nominating:
- Wikipedia:TERRIER → User:Diligent Terrier/Terrier Cabal
- Wikipedia:NERD → User:Diligent Terrier/Nerd Cabal
— Carl (CBM · talk) 17:22, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Also:
- Delete Twenty Years 17:34, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete These were all created in the last week. These redirects serve absolutely no value to the encyclopaedia - WP: is primarily for redirects to Wikipedia: space. Orderinchaos 17:37, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Keep I really don't see any policy that prohibits these kind of redirects. Orderinchaos had decided to speedy delete them under a section which only said that articles cannot redirect to userspace. However, project pages can redirect to userspace, and I can give several examples if people would like me to. - DiligentTerrier and friends 17:52, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete WP: redirects should be reserved for "serious" pages, having a joke redirect that has a link similar to a policy/guideline/essay but isn't really one adds no value to the wikipedia --Enric Naval (talk) 17:56, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Comment OK, there is no policy that I can see that prohibits these type of redirects. If the best reason people can give for deleting this is that it redirects to a joke page in a userspace (which is not even a policy), then that would mean lots of other redirects like WP:BEARDMUSTGO and WP:BEARDMUSTGO will have to be deleted also. - DiligentTerrier and friends 18:03, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Note the fallacy of "other stuff exists" as a keep argument. Orderinchaos 18:10, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)**Some would consider them to be a violation of WP:POINT. For the time being, Neutral (except for the first one, for which I see no usefulness compared to a possible WP:NERDCABAL; therefore delete first one). B.Wind (talk) 18:16, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Let's stick to the merits of these redirects. Up until recently, cross-namespace shortcuts were deletable under CSD:R2. It was an unintended consequence of making WP: an alias for the Wikipedia: namespace that they no longer fall under the literal wording of that criterion. That's why this isn't described by policy - because it was previously covered by CSD:R2, and there was no need to discuss it elsewhere. — Carl (CBM · talk) 18:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Policy is what matters. If you feel it should be in the policy, then make a proposal. There is no reason why a shortcut should be deleted if it does not violate a WP policy. - DiligentTerrier and friends 18:21, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- I think you have a keen misunderstanding of how WP policy works. We don't make any attempt to precisely delineate acceptable content in policy documents. — Carl (CBM · talk) 19:25, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Adenda to my vote are users really supossed to use the encyclopedia's main space for redirects to their pet pages on userspace? I don't think that this is what the policy intended to mean neither before nor after the changes to redirects --Enric Naval (talk) 15:11, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
- I think you have a keen misunderstanding of how WP policy works. We don't make any attempt to precisely delineate acceptable content in policy documents. — Carl (CBM · talk) 19:25, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Policy is what matters. If you feel it should be in the policy, then make a proposal. There is no reason why a shortcut should be deleted if it does not violate a WP policy. - DiligentTerrier and friends 18:21, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Let's stick to the merits of these redirects. Up until recently, cross-namespace shortcuts were deletable under CSD:R2. It was an unintended consequence of making WP: an alias for the Wikipedia: namespace that they no longer fall under the literal wording of that criterion. That's why this isn't described by policy - because it was previously covered by CSD:R2, and there was no need to discuss it elsewhere. — Carl (CBM · talk) 18:13, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)**Some would consider them to be a violation of WP:POINT. For the time being, Neutral (except for the first one, for which I see no usefulness compared to a possible WP:NERDCABAL; therefore delete first one). B.Wind (talk) 18:16, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Keep and Delete Keep is for the WP:NERD and WP:TERRIER; Delete is for the others. Kimu 19:24, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete not in project namespace Nothing444 00:34, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete as unused. Nothing links to them except their targets. Dansiman (talk|Contribs) 22:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- I would like to again point out to the admins closing this discussion that there is no policy that bans these redirects. Until someone comes up with a good enough reason to delete these, they need to stay. - DiligentTerrier and friends 20:02, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Wikipedia:GEEK. The rest Keep. My reason: It's the nerd cabal no the geek cabal. The others are fine as they are, unless there is a better thing to redirect to. Basketball110 Go Longhorns! 20:10, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
- Keep - It is really funny how the only reasons people arguing delete are saying "not in the project namespace" (makes no sense since redirects can go from project to userspace), "redirects should be reserved for serious pages" (then why would WP:TROUT and WP:BEARDMUSTGO still exist), "nothing links to them except their targets" (I do not see how this has ANYTHING to do with redirects), or no argument at all. Obviously, people just do not understand the humor of these redirects, so they attack them. This does not seem like a judicious decision to me. — Parent5446 (t c k e l) 20:25, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
The closing admin should be aware of canvassing by Basketball110: Maximillion Pegasus [1], Milk's Favorite Cookie [2], RC-0722 [3], Einsteinewton [4], Thisisborin9 [5], Parent5446 [6], Burner0718 [7]. Also, several people who have commented here are on the "waiting lists" for these cabals, asking to be "approved" by Diligent Terrier, and so have a conflict of interest in participating here. — Carl (CBM · talk) 20:37, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Random: The Album → Journey through the Secret Life of Plants
No apparent connection between title of redirect and subject of target article; assuming good faith and not conclude that it is a violation of WP:POINT as this was by the same editor as the one who started first five redirects on today's listing B.Wind (talk) 18:49, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete I don't see anything in the target article about the word "random" being applied to it. JeremyMcCracken (talk)
CBF: The Album → American Doll Posse
Similar to above listing. No apparent connection between title of redirect and subject of target article. Highly unlikely to be used as a search term B.Wind (talk) 19:04, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Same as above, there's nothing in the target article to indicate that "CBF" is used to refer to it. JeremyMcCracken (talk)
7Up and Brownies → Lemonade and Brownies
Similar to above two listings. Search of redirect title turns up Wikipedia mirrors and places citing Wikipedia only. Highly unlikely to be used as a search term B.Wind (talk) 19:14, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Again as the above two, google doesn't seem to indicate that there is a pop culture reference of calling the album "7Up and Brownies". JeremyMcCracken (talk) 16:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)