New Article Draft Review Request
Hi, I'd like to have someone review a draft article I've written that's currently in my sandbox. What is a good way to do this? Sampadaka (talk) 01:10, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, Sampadaka. Your question above is your only edit to the English Wikipedia with this account. Therefore, I cannot take a look at any draft. Did you create your draft using another account, or while logged out, or on another language Wikipedia? Please provide a link to the draft, or at the very least, its precise name. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:30, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
- Repinging Sampadaka, since I messed up the first ping. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:37, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, Cullen328. It appears I hadn't saved it as I thought I had initially. I had the text saved elsewhere, and pasted it in. I'll need to add in the citations again, but the rest of the text is there. It's in my user sandbox. Sampadaka (talk) 12:27, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hello again, Sampadaka. Your sandbox draft is still unreferenced, although it contains numbers in square brackets for some reason. Unreferenced biographies of living people violate policy and cannot be accepted into the encyclopedia. Please read Referencing for beginners. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:48, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, Cullen328. It appears I hadn't saved it as I thought I had initially. I had the text saved elsewhere, and pasted it in. I'll need to add in the citations again, but the rest of the text is there. It's in my user sandbox. Sampadaka (talk) 12:27, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
- I've added the citations back in—the bracketed numbers were the items to be filled in, which I had initially included but which didn't save as intended in the draft. Thank you for looking this over, Cullen328. Please let me know how this looks now. Sampadaka (talk) 01:29, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
Error on the title of the LSE redirect page: "political", not "social"
There is an error in the title of this Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=London_School_of_Economics_and_Social_Science&redirect=no
The title of this page is: "London School of Economics and SOCIAL Science". This is wrong, because the correct name for the LSE is: "London School of Economics and POLITICAL Science".
The point is that Facebook uses this very page for all alumni, therefore displaying a wrong university name on our profiles. Please see here: https://www.google.fr/search?q=%22London+School+of+Economics+and+Social+Science%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=sP7VWd2dF6SCwgLdi4rADQ
I actually tried to correct the title of this LSE page myself, however I could not do so because it is an automatic "redirect" page.
So could someone please correct this wrong "Social Science" page?
Thanks! Champeaux (talk) 09:53, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
- You are correct about the title, of course, but the LSE is also strong on social sciences, and we can't stop people searching with the wrong title, so we try to help by redirecting them to the correct title. Facebook also has a similar redirect for those who search under the wrong title. Everyone ends up at the correct page, so why is this a problem? If the mistake is in your Facebook profile, then you need to contact them to make the change, or just change it yourself. I can't replicate the problem because when I add LSE to a Facebook profile it comes up with "The London School of Economics and Political Science - LSE". Dbfirs 10:10, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Champeaux, welcome to the Teahouse. There is already a redirect at London School of Economics and Political Science so there is nothing to change London School of Economics and Social Science to. We don't delete redirects helping our readers just because external sites may use them inapproriately, but I have tagged it with {{R from incorrect name}}. I don't know whether it influences Facebook. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:55, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank both of you. I think I understand the issue. The point is that Facebook uses the redirect page for displaying my profile, therefore it says "my name" "blablabla" "studied at the London School of Economics and SOCIAL Science", which is wrong and annoying. I am going to try the "embedded file" option to put an image (my screen print was not accepted). Champeaux (talk) 18:02, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
OK, I understood what happened: the wrong LSE & Social Science was on Facebook (unofficial page), not on Wikipedia. I just had to change my profile with a new entry to the correct LSE page, then delete the wrong entry. Sorry about all this. Should I delete this whole message, as it is irrelevant? Champeaux (talk) 18:31, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- No we don't delete questions & their answers. They will be archived in due course, but in the meantime they stay in the hope that other readers will find the answers useful. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:39, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Changes to article and consensus, how long should a discussion stay open on Talk page?
If no one engages on the Talk page, how long should a question of a change stay open before you can reasonably make the change without being accused of edit warring and not gaining consensus? I have been trying to cut down the information on [1] by placing the information into linked articles[2], but I'm getting resistance from ONE editor and not getting much in the way of engagement on the Talk page from them[3]. They just delete my post and say there is no consensus. I even tried to ask them on their personal Talk page and that did not go so well either.[4][5]C. W. Gilmore (talk) 16:10, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
- @C. W. Gilmore: I have no opinion about the bottom of the dispute. I will simply note that (1) if someone asks that you leave their user talk page alone, it is courteous to do so, no matter how poorly they behave themselves; (2) when two editors disagree about the inclusion of some content, the default result is not to include it; the one pushing for inclusion is the one who should obtain consensus (from other editors) before it being added; (3) if participation to a discussion is lacking, you may request a third opinion or open a request for comment. TigraanClick here to contact me 12:44, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for those pages and how long should I leave the question of changes open on the Talk page before I try to make a change, if no one is responding to my request? A day? A week? A month? I don't want to ram a change through just to have it deleted, so I really do want to build consensus. Thanks C. W. Gilmore (talk) 15:01, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- It is not a matter of time. If someone had drive-by reverted you, and refused to engage on talk or elsewhere, you would be justified in re-reverting after (IMO) about a week (give or take, depending how much the article is watched, the inclusion controversial, the other editor active, etc.). But I do not think that is what happened.
- From what I see, another editor has expressed their opposition to your proposed changes (multiple times) with arguments that are not obviously trolling or disruptive. If you repost a similar request, they are under no obligation to address it, and their previous opposition still stands, pretty much no matter how long ago they last said they opposed it.
- In such 1 vs. 1 situations, if neither can convince the other (whatever the reason), it defaults to not including the controversial content unless consensus for inclusion can be obtained. This is usually done via WP:3O, WP:RFC, leaving a notice on a WikiProject's talk page, etc. - in a nutshell, getting outside participation. If you cannot get outside participation, then it defaults to no inclusion. Sometimes that happens (usually on niche topics where specialized expertise is needed to fully grasp the subject), but considering the article you propose to edit, I am fairly sure you would have a dozen of comments within a week of opening an RfC. TigraanClick here to contact me 15:15, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you. I don't want this to devolve into edit warring and I pulled the information for the List of Confederate monuments and memorials page because that page is so large, it does not allow for detailed information. I thought that by putting it into the page for the city where there was already a small bit, it would be a simple and easy fix; but I was wrong. I will take your advice and thanks again.C. W. Gilmore (talk) 15:26, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Did I do this correctly? [6] Thanks again. C. W. Gilmore (talk) 16:26, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for those pages and how long should I leave the question of changes open on the Talk page before I try to make a change, if no one is responding to my request? A day? A week? A month? I don't want to ram a change through just to have it deleted, so I really do want to build consensus. Thanks C. W. Gilmore (talk) 15:01, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Responding to email
Responding to an email from WikiDan61
Paul E Thompson (talk) 21:28, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hello, Paul E Thompson. I was going to suggest you post this notice on WikiDan61's talk page, but I see you already did
If we can be of further assistance at the Teahouse, feel free to let us know. Happy editing! –FlyingAce✈hello 00:59, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
remove all uploads of this photo
this photo is no longer useable! I have switched the rights on it and so any and all uploads of it has to be removed! IT is no longer under creative commons and I can sue anyone that is using it without my consent! I own all rights to that photo and you will need to remove it asap
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b4/Dapper_Day_Fall_2015_all_women.jpg/1200px-Dapper_Day_Fall_2015_all_women.jpg 216.14.49.242 (talk) 23:11, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
- The Creative Commons license on File:Dapper_Day_Fall_2015_all_women.jpg is irrevocable as long as the license terms are followed [7] RudolfRed (talk) 23:22, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
- Those who make legal threats are not permitted to edit Wikipedia until such threats are withdrawn. - David Biddulph (talk) 23:40, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Hello Sara. I can see that you have been frustrated by the continued use of an image that two years ago you made freely available under a Creative Commons licence, but have now changed your mind about. I also recognise that you have repeatedly tried to remove this image from the Dapper Day article since April 2016, and that your attempts have been reverted each time. This must be very frustrating for you. Your image appears to have been legitimately obtained from your Flickr account when you clearly licenced it (essentially for non-commercial and commercial use, in perpetuity) subject to the terms of this Creative Commons licence. I also note that an administrator specifically checked the licencing and confirmed it was correct, and that you did release it. As such, the image was wholly acceptable for placing on Wikimedia Commons. I can imagine how irksome this is for you, because you now want to change the licensing terms. But I hope you can appreciate that because you willingly released your image under an irrevocable licence, as RudolfRed says above (and knowing that the default setting on Flickr accounts is for 'all rights reserved'), you obviously did back then intend the image to be used and freely available by anyone, forever - for which I'm sure we are all very grateful to you. (It is a nice photograph, by the way). I really cannot see a way that now changing your mind over its licencing would result in the image's removal from Wikimedia Commons and thus Wikipedia. Either way, once an image has been released, other third parties are also still free to use it under that original licence, in perpetuity - whether taken from your Flickr site back then, or from Wiki Commons, or indeed anywhere else. Sorry I cannot be of more assistance or comfort to you. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:08, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Actually I changed the license on it two years ago. It's now under copyright all rights reserved. I want it taken down because i never intended it to be shared and the people in the photo probably would not like it either. Now the photo is changed to a different attribute, cannot be downloaded. IT can be seen but not used. So it needs to be taken down, The photo link itself shows that's its now under All rights reserved via flickr.
216.14.49.242 (talk) 17:13, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Read again what you were told above. You released it under an irrevocable licence, and this was confirmed when the photo was uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. Any changes which you subsequently made at Flickr do not affect the use of the photo under the licence conditions under which it was released. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:19, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- You are reminded again that you are not permitted to edit here without withdrawing the legal threat above. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:24, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Again it doesn't matter what it was.. it matter what it is now and NOW it's under a Copyright All Rights Reserved attribute, You can see for yourself if you want >> linkhttps://flic.kr/p/yXGBxy
216.14.49.242 (talk) 17:24, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- I am not withdrawing it till my photo gets taken down and removed.
216.14.49.242 (talk) 17:26, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Take down the photo and all problems will be resolved and I won't be bugging you about it any longer and i won't be editing the article to remove the link and photo
216.14.49.242 (talk) 17:37, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- The picture has been removed from the article and that is as much as we can do at Wikipedia. You uploaded the image to Commons which is a separately governed project so you'll need to make your case at c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Dapper Day Fall 2015 all women.jpg. Shouting about it here won't have any effect as it is beyond anyone here's control. Nthep (talk) 17:50, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Article titling for novel/series?
Hello,
A page I created some time ago, is called: Dr Pimms, Intermillennial Sleuth.
As it relates to a series of novels, should it have novels/series as the final word in the title? Could you please let me know if there is a convention around this? As in, are all wikipedia articles for novels meant to have those words, or simply be the title of the series?
Thank you very much
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr_Pimms,_Intermillennial_Sleuth
SunnyBoi (talk) 02:05, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Welcome to the Teahouse, SunnyBoi. That would only be necessary if there were two articles that might have identical names. For the sake of discussion, let's assume that a movie was made with the same name. Then what you propose may be useful. Please read Wikipedia: Disambiguation for a more complete explanation. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:28, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
English Grammar
I want to help Wikipedia, but my knowledge of English grammar is limited. What can I do to help nonetheless? LazyAndriy (talk) 09:55, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hey LazyAndriy. Welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for your interest in helping out. There's usually a way for everyone to contribute, and this is no exception. Here's a few ideas:
- Category:Articles with dead external links (151,831 articles) - These are articles that link to sites online where the sites themselves have gone down or changed names, and the links in the references need to be repaired. This is usually done by trying to find an archived version so that content in the references can be verified by readers. For more information on how to repair these links see WP:DEADLINK.
- Category:Articles with too few wikilinks (23,260 articles) - These are articles that have too few links to other Wikipedia articles in them, and need to be better incorporated into the encyclopedia as a whole. For more information on wikilinks see Help:Link#Wikilinks (internal links).
- Category:Orphaned articles (136,302 articles) - These are articles where no other Wikipedia articles link to them, and also need to be incorporated better into the encyclopedia, but in the opposite way of the previous category. For more information on fixing these articles see WP:DE-ORPHAN.
- Hope this helps, and again, welcome to Wikipedia! GMGtalk 10:16, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- You could also consider contributing to a Wikipedia in a language you are more familiar with, if you are not already doing so, LazyAndriy. --ColinFine (talk) 19:23, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
i cant make a account
when i make a account i get the error There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Go back to the previous page, reload that page and then try again. on chrome — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.169.165.176 (talk) 10:08, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hello anon. That is a strange error and I'm not sure I've seen it myself. You may want to try restarting your browser, your machine, or clearing your browsing data, and see if any of those help the problem. In the worst case scenario, if you are absolutely not able to create an account, you can still request one be registered on your behalf at Wikipedia:Request an account. GMGtalk 10:23, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Who can edit pages?
Hi, I am an employee of a museum with charity status in the UK. We want to edit the wiki entry for our museum and building which is currently inaccurate - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selly_Manor Someone told me that you can't be a paid employee of an organisation to edit their page on Wikipedia - is that true? Many thanks164.40.222.209 (talk) 11:37, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hi, Wikipedia is the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit, so nobody is going to stop you from editing any page, but it's true that not everyone should edit every page. The community's consensus, explained in the conflict of interest policy, is that editors should not directly edit articles on subjects that they have a personal or professional connection with. That would certainly include the article on your employer (paid or otherwise). After all, who would trust an encyclopaedia where the subjects write articles on themselves?
- If there are errors in the museum's article, the best thing to do in your situation would be to leave a message on the article's talk page (Talk:Selly Manor) explaining the problem and asking somebody else to make the change. You can use the {{edit request}} template to draw someone's attention to it quickly, if necessary. If possible, please provide references for any suggestions you have, because we can only include material that is adequately supported by reliable sources. – Joe (talk) 11:46, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Edit info lost when name of article changed
Back about 2010, I created an article called Siege of the Legations, Beijing 1900. The title was later changed and/or merged into the present article Siege of the International Legations.
My complaint is that the information concerning my edits creating and editing this article is lost. Rather, the content of the article titled Siege of the Legations, Beijing 1900, some 32,000 bytes, was merged and/or re-titled and the creators and editors of those 32,000 bytes are not credited in the edit summaries. I wrote most of those 32,000 bytes and I would like to see them appear in the article history.
Is there any recourse? Smallchief (talk) 11:53, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Yes and no. Attribution should be included, but what you are suggesting (a history merge) is unlikely to happen.
- Attribution to your (and others') edit has been provided in the usual way:
- Talk:Siege of the International Legations contains the attribution template
{{copied}}
that generatesText and/or other creative content from Siege of the Legations, Beijing 1900 was copied or moved into Siege of Beijing Legation Quarter with this edit. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted so long as the latter page exists.
- The redirect page still has the page history, and serves to provide attribution.
- You could always ask for a history merge, but it is very unlikely to be granted. TigraanClick here to contact me 12:08, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the information. I couldn't find the previous history of my edits. Now I can. Smallchief (talk) 12:34, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Hello Teahouse Folks...`
I prefer Earl Grey, hot, and that's long before Captain Picard.
That said, I wrote my first full Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Immervision) this autumn and have been having a tough time getting it approved. A wee bit of background: I make my living as a graphic designer, but am a long-time amateur astronomer. As such I've tinkered with lenses, mirrors and anything else a great home-made telescope needs to be usable. I'm also a keen meteor observer and have seen through out the years many different setups used by astrophotographers to capture time-exposure images. One way is with a high-quality convex mirrors with a camera mounted atop. OK, I'll shorten this... Immervision, as I discovered makes an amazing little camera that can shoot in 360° without the distortion that a regular mirror/camera setup crates, so that objects on the edges are crisp and not distorted. This is PERFECT for spotting meteors in longer time exposures and helps in fining the point of origin and hence the actual meteor stream any given meteor may originate from. I discovered them on WIKIPEDIA while researching 360° lenses and an article on the panomorph lens was found.
That's my motivation, and how I learned of this company. I also found that Immervision had been covered in the press and had created lenses that other manufacturers were incorporating into their products. Namely the panomorph lens (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panomorph). I've been contributing to Wikipedia for years, but only small edits, typos and minor factual corrections. I felt it was time to write my first full contribution. I am not an employee of Immervision nor do I hold any shares or interest in this company.
THE PROBLEM: My initial submission was declined for lack of notability, and looking back I can agree that I was a bit shy on the third-party independent sources... this, I thought was corrected in my second submission, but apparently not. I poured several hours into researching additional journalistic sources and associated coverage and did indeed find many, which I proceeded to add to my third draft, but because I was using visual editing these references showed up as links in the text and not as footnotes. I have since corrected this but did not resubmit yet as I wanted to see if I could find a few more third-party independent sources as footnotes.
On November 1st I received a message that suggested that the article was promotional, something that had never been mentioned previously when it was declined. I went to great pains to ensure that the tone and style were neutral.
So after boring you with this very long preamble, can I get any opinions on how the article is biased or might have promotional tone? I’m eager to correct this and understand he nuances which affect the perception.
Many Thanks! Jacques Jacquesdav (talk) 14:55, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- No opinion on the notability, but the "promotional" comment was left by SwisterTwister (ping). I admit it looks strange to me, because even if one could consider the draft's content promotional, it certainly is not that promotional. I am not sure it deserves a Twinkle notice, and I am pretty sure it does not deserve a level 2 warning right off the bat ({{uw-advert2}} instead of {{uw-advert1}}). TigraanClick here to contact me 15:20, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback Tigraan. I share your sentiments, and was a bit taken aback by the labelling of my submission as promotional. I considered it anything but after having taken great pains to write it in a neutral tone. I'm simply asking for direction and precision as to which sections, phrases or words seemed to suggest a promotional tone. Jacques Jacquesdav (talk) 17:33, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Is it possible to accelerate the review of new page?
The New Article Wizard states that once a new article is submitted, "Reviews can take a long time, and are done in somewhat of a random fashion." How long do these reviews take, on average? Is there any way to accelerate this process? Cglife.bmarcus (talk) 15:49, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- The New Page review is quite backlogged right now; it's not uncommon for a review to take more than a month. I may be wrong, but I don't think there's a way to speed it up very much; reviewing an article takes time, and I presume most new page creators would be in a similar state of mind as you. If there was a process to submit it to the "front of the line", it would be too easy to abuse the process. Two things. though; first, your article is not submitted for review and will not be reviewed if you do not submit it. Second, in the state it is in, it will not be accepted. It reads in a very promotional manner, which violates an important policy of Wikipedia, WP:PROMO. Do you have an undeclared conflict of interest? If you do, you need to say so. Not declaring a conflict of interest violates a different Wikipedia policy. You may want to read WP:PSCOI if this is so. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 16:02, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- @A lad insane: it is declared paid editing - see User:Cglife.bmarcus. Nthep (talk) 16:18, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Nthep: Thank you. @Cglife.bmarcus: I apologize for my mistake. You may wish to read WP:PCD. If you've already read it, kudos to you. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 16:27, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- @A lad insane: it is declared paid editing - see User:Cglife.bmarcus. Nthep (talk) 16:18, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Also, there seems to be a large number of primary sources in your draft. This is unacceptable; I can't check most of the sources as I'm editing from a connection with a fairly strict filter (my school) but to acheive notabillity, a subject must be covered in detail in reliable secondary soruces. When I say "in detail", I don't mean birthdays of the founders, but it has to be substantially more than a passing mention in an unrelated story. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 16:13, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Deleting the entire "Products and Services" section would be a major improvement to the draft, making it look less promotional. Maproom (talk) 16:35, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Deletion of my page
←Just few minutes ago I created a page on NIdeas Creations and Productions Pvt Ltd. This is not an advertisement or any kind of promotion. This is simply production house page. you can check website. http://www.nideas.in Please help me in this matter. Regards Mita→ — Preceding unsigned comment added by MITA PAL (talk • contribs) 16:04, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Dear MITA PAL, I'm afraid the article read very much like an advertisment for the company, and it has been deleted under that criteria (WP:G11). Take care, — fortunavelut luna 16:17, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
Request to Restore Page of Syed Hasan Askari
Kindly assist in restoring the page Syed Hasan Askari (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syed_Hasan_Askari) which I created earlier with the help of several wikipedia editors. This page has been recently deleted due to copyright issue per the message received below. (Pls see comments below). In reality, I created the FB page of https://www.facebook.com/professorsyedhasanaskari therefore it is not in violation of copyright. Requesting to restore the page Syed Hasan Askari (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syed_Hasan_Askari) at your earliest possible convenience.
Thanks in advance!
Wikimedia Commons <wiki@wikimedia.org>
Primefac left a message on your talk page in "File:1. Prof Askari 05 09 2016.jpg".
File:1. Prof Askari 05 09 2016.jpg has been marked as a possible copyright violation. Wikimedia Commons
This page has been deleted. The deletion, protection, and move log for the page are provided below for reference. • 16:22, 2 November 2017 Primefac (talk | contribs) deleted page Syed Hasan Askari (G11, G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of https://www.facebook.com/professorsyedhasanaskari/posts/1744203005801902:2 (TW))
(Syedahmerraza (talk) 17:37, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hello Syedahmerraza. To donate copyrighted material to Wikipedia, you should follow the instructions at WP:DONATETEXT. However, I strongly recommend that you do not take the time to do that because the tone of the text is still unsuitable for Wikipedia. The text in the Facebook page (which I assume is identical to the text in the deleted page is written far too promotionally, far from the neutrality Wikipedia requires. Even if the text was not copyrighted, the article would still have been deleted under the WP:G11 criteria, for articles of "unambiguous promotion". If you would still like to create an article about the person that meets Wikipedia's criteria, please read WP:NACADEMIC to determine if he meets our notability criteria first. If he does, you can use the article wizard to create a draft. As you appear to be affiliated with the professor, please review our policies on conflict of interest and paid editing. You can refer to WP:YFA for guidance on creating a Wikipedia article. Thanks. Darylgolden(talk) Ping when replying 00:34, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Article draft review request
I cannot figure out how to submit a draft for review.
It is posted at User:Betterworld887/sandbox/Eric Ly.
I clicked the button that says submit, but it's not clear what to do next.
Please help. Betterworld887 (talk) 23:05, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hi, Betterworld887. Welcome to the Teahouse. This is a quick 'holding reply' to say that I see you've posted the identical question on the HelpDesk. I'm going to leave a comment there to suggest your question is ignored, and that we answer it here. It's not fair to ask two sets of helpers to work on an answer for you. I or others will then take a look at your page and see what help we can give you. I trust this is OK. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:01, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hello Betterworld887. Just click the "submit your draft for review" button in the box at the top of the page, then click save changes. If you can't figure it out I can do it for you. Thanks. Darylgolden(talk) Ping when replying 00:22, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- And don't forget to add the title you want to use! (Question to @Darylgolden:: This process shouldn't be affected by WP:ACTRIAL restrictions, would it? I note the user is very new here (3 days), but I didn't think the 4 days/10 edit limit applied to pages sent to WP:AFC in this way.) Nick Moyes (talk) 00:35, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Nick Moyes: The user doesn't need to choose a title (the page already exists, it's just adding a submit template), and ACTRIAL does not affect AFC. Thanks, Darylgolden(talk) Ping when replying 00:49, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- And don't forget to add the title you want to use! (Question to @Darylgolden:: This process shouldn't be affected by WP:ACTRIAL restrictions, would it? I note the user is very new here (3 days), but I didn't think the 4 days/10 edit limit applied to pages sent to WP:AFC in this way.) Nick Moyes (talk) 00:35, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hello Betterworld887. Just click the "submit your draft for review" button in the box at the top of the page, then click save changes. If you can't figure it out I can do it for you. Thanks. Darylgolden(talk) Ping when replying 00:22, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Sorry about submitting a question in two places. I'm new. After I placed question in Help Desk, I saw that it was better for newbies to go to the Teahouse and I couldn't unsubmit my help desk question. I now know better. Regarding the very helpful information "Just click the "submit your draft for review" button in the box at the top of the page, then click save changes," I tried this several times. When I click submit, the save changes button turns gray. Sometimes a submit template box comes up, but nothing tells me what to do. I would appreciate you submitting this for me but for the future, I would like to know how to do it myself as well. Thanks.Betterworld887 (talk) 18:17, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
My page seems to have disappeared
Hi,
A page that I hadn't really looked at the much seems to have disappeared. What could have caused this and is it possible to get the page back?Frank Carlin (talk) 10:03, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hey Frank Carlin. Assuming you mean Inbenta, it looks like it was deleted because it was unambiguously promotional, and did not credibly indicate why the subject was potentially significant enough to warrant an encyclopedia article. GMGtalk 10:08, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Is there any way to get the article back and edit it? Or maybe to request someone else look at it?Frank Carlin (talk) 10:47, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hey Frank Carlin. Articles deleted under WP:G11 as unambiguously promotional are overall unlikely to be restored, since this criteria means that there was basically nothing in the article that wasn't overtly promotional, and it would have needed to be essentially completely rewritten to comply with our policies on neutrality and promotionalism. You may want to review our tutorial on writing your first article, or consider taking our interactive tutorial at The Wikipedia Adventure. If you would like to have another go at it, you should probably could consider using the Article Wizard and submitting it for our Articles for Creation project, where it can be reviewed by an experienced volunteer who can offer feedback prior to publishing. GMGtalk 10:51, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- How would I get the content back to review? Frank Carlin (talk) 10:54, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Frank Carlin, the first step would be to talk with User:DGG, who was the last person to delete the article. GMGtalk 10:58, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- How do I contact this person? Frank Carlin (talk) 11:09, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Frank Carlin, Probably start with their user talk page, or wait for them to respond here. But it looks like they've been offline for about six hours now. If I'm not mistaken, I believe they were somewhere on the east coast of the US, and it's still fairly early there. GMGtalk 11:24, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Frank Carlin: I emailed you the latest version.--S Philbrick(Talk) 21:51, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Frank Carlin, Probably start with their user talk page, or wait for them to respond here. But it looks like they've been offline for about six hours now. If I'm not mistaken, I believe they were somewhere on the east coast of the US, and it's still fairly early there. GMGtalk 11:24, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Would an article I intend to created count as paid editing?
My mother is a singer in the Portsmouth Choral Union and has asked me to help her create a Wikipedia page about it (she tells me what to write, I make it Wikipedia-friendly) but I'm not sure whether this is allowed. Note I volunteered to help her and she is not rewarding me in any way. I probably don't need to ask this but is this allowed? TomBarker23 (talk) 12:34, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- @TomBarker23: Hello and welcome. It is not paid editing if you are a volunteer, but it is a conflict of interest. Please read WP:COI for more information on what to do; I would suggest using Articles for Creation to draft and submit the article for review. You will need independent reliable sources (WP:RS) that indicate notability; Wikipedia is not social media for groups to have pages. If you just want to tell the world about this group, you will need to use actual social media. 331dot (talk) 12:57, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm not trying to make Wikipedia into a social media site (I can't stand social media anyway) but I will follow your advice. TomBarker23 (talk) 13:44, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hello, TomBarker23. Please bear in mind that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject (or anybody associated with it) says about it, and no interest at all in how it wishes to be portrayed. Wikipedia is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject whatever have chosen to publish about it, in reliable places. Once you have found several such independent sources, you will need to forget every single thing you know about the PCU, and write only from what those sources say. Do you see why editing with a COI might be difficult? I notice that among the useful resource that 331dot linked to, they did not include your first article: I would start there, if I were you. --ColinFine (talk) 16:13, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- @ColinFine:I did forget that one. Thanks 331dot (talk) 17:29, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
How to edit the subtittle of an artice
Good Day How can i insert or edit on the sub tittle of an existing article or to insert my own article on Wiki platform PERISH (talk) 13:22, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- To make an article, first see WP:Your First Article. To insert a subtitle, use the format given to you under headings- second level heading should do. That's two uses of the = key, the text, and two more =. TomBarker23 (talk) 13:47, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hi PERISH, welcome to the Teahouse. If you mean the text displayed below the page name in some features then see Wikipedia:FAQ/Editing#How do I edit mobile subtitles? PrimeHunter (talk) 17:12, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Editing
Hi! I'm Teenager16. I'm very new to Wikipedia. I want to learn how to edit things in Wikipedia please. Thank you!Teenager16 (talk) 14:06, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hey Teenager16. A good place to start would be taking our interactive tutorial at The Wikipedia Adventure. GMGtalk 14:17, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Draft -> Main move request
I'm not yet an autoconfirmed user so I placed a technical move request (for the page Draft:BredaPhoto) on the page wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_moves/Technical_requests.
It took me a while to figure out from various 'how to' pages that this was what I should do. But the format of my request looks different to others on the page even though I copied and pasted the request 'code'.
I just want confirmation that my request is correctly formatted and will be picked up by someone.
Thanks
Mikemorrell49 (talk) 14:26, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hey Mikemorrell49. Normally it's a good idea to send your first few articles through our Articles for Creation project, where they can be reviewed by an experienced volunteer who can offer feedback prior to publishing. You can do this by clicking the "Submit your article for review" button in the banner at the top of the draft.
- However, at this point your draft will almost certainly not be accepted, because it does not include any sources to support the content of the draft, and in order to demonstrate that the subject meets our notability standards for events. This is usually done by showing that the subject has received sustained in-depth coverage in sources that meet our standards for reliability, usually things like books, newspapers, and magazines. You may want to review guidance at our guide on referencing for beginners to learn more about how to include references in your draft. GMGtalk 14:35, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Help With Draft Article :Signal Alliance
Draft:Signal Alliance has been created I need help to develop content and advise on what next. Thank you. Shokoyokoto NG (talk) 15:38, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Copyright
Hello everyone,
Yesterday I wanted to submit an article about a musical instrument of my father. However, the text in the article is directly from his own website so due to copyright issues the site was deleted right after I tried to upload it. Afterwards, he gave me permission to upload the article from his website, but how do I proceed from here?
Could anybody help me out?
Thank you in advance! Zjenjadg (talk) 16:11, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hello, Zjenjadg. This seems to be about Draft:Double Bass by Domenico Montagnana, Venice, 1747.
- Please see our page about how to donate copyrighted materials and follow its instructions. There are basically two reasons for the procedures outlined there: we need some proof that the original holder of copyright does consent to its use (not just "someone with unconfirmed identity told us so over the internet"), and that they are aware that release under a Wikipedia-compatible license means anyone, anywhere can reuse it, not just that it will be posted on Wikipedia.
- Also, you should be aware that (ideally) we only have articles about "notable" subjects, which does not mean "worthy of interest" in Wikipedia parlance, but "have been the subject of in-depth independent coverage in reliable sources". Your proposed article may therefore not qualify. I cannot tell if that is a problem or not (deleted pages can only be seen by administrators). You may find Wikipedia:Your first article a useful read before reposting the article. Do not hesitate to ask follow-up questions if something is unclear. TigraanClick here to contact me 16:26, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Well, actually, if the article you intended to post is similar to [8] and the references within it are not completely made-up, this is probably a notable topic. You would still need to convert the references to inline citations (so that we know which source supports which statement), but otherwise it looks fairly solid. TigraanClick here to contact me 16:30, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
If a subject is new, less then a year old, how do I get the subject through the review process?
Okay, so the subject that I submitted for review was decline because of lack of references. The Eternal Cup Series | Pro Jiu Jitsu Tour is a hot buzz in the Jiu Jitsu niche, but it is less then a year as an organisation. Outside of the organisation website there is very little out there. I get that this is too new of a subject for wiki, but how is it that movies that haven't been released get a wiki page with very little references? In a nut shell, how do I get the subject through the review process even though it is a fairly new entity? Enso12345 (talk) 16:30, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Enso12345: You probably don't. If, as you say,
Outside of the organisation website there is very little out there
, this means the subject is not "notable" in the Wikipedia meaning of the term, and nothing can be done to salvage it (at least for now, it may become notable later). It is the same for every subject: if you see other pages that have no good references (see WP:GNG for details), and nothing can be found, you are welcome to nominate those pages for deletion (or just tell us which pages they are, and I can do that). TigraanClick here to contact me 16:36, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
How to link an article from non-English wiki?
e.g. not Atalanta (schooner), but Atalanta D1gggg (talk) 16:43, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- @D1gggg: I am not sure what your question is, since you did manage to link a de-wp article it in your question here on en-wp; the other way around is quite similar, just link [[:en:page to be linked on en-wp]]. The long answer is at Help:Interwiki linking.
- Please also keep in mind that interwiki links are subject to the Wikipedia:External links guideline, so they are rarely appropriate in the body of articles. TigraanClick here to contact me 17:02, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- I had couple links removed from List of forestry universities and colleges now I wounder if I should add missing ships in Template:Surviving ocean going ships
- Still don't understand why language of the page can decide topics D1gggg (talk) 17:39, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- @D1gggg: I think you should use Template:Interlanguage link. -- Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:22, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Probably what I want, thanks! D1gggg (talk) 17:47, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Confusion of wikipedia tour
So I'm doing the Wikipedia tour and I've got to the user page and now nothing happens. Help? Flappy132 (talk) 17:27, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
"Human yeet"
When the search term "pneumonic plague" is entered in WP, the title that pops up is "Pneumonic Plague human yeet". This is an error in WP, not in this article, possibly due to vandalism. What can be done?-- Quisqualis (talk) 17:56, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Quisqualis - That was vandalism at Wikidata - I have changed the description to "Severe lung infection" and removed some vandalized alternative names. - Arjayay (talk) 18:03, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Having found the vandalism, on January 13 2017, I have reverted the description to "Human disease" - which is what it was before the vandalism. - Arjayay (talk) 18:22, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help, Arjayay.--Quisqualis (talk) 18:32, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Having found the vandalism, on January 13 2017, I have reverted the description to "Human disease" - which is what it was before the vandalism. - Arjayay (talk) 18:22, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
Looking at outdated links in citations
Hello fellow Wikipedians, I am looking at the citation links for the article titled Dakota, Minnesota and Eastern Railroad, and after seeing several links that point to missing info, or info not found, I thought I would try to add some updated links. For example, I am trying to add an updated link for the Wall Street Journal citation Feb. 21, 2002 by Daniel Machalaba... when I click edit, and find the citation, click on that, it turns the entire section into a template and I am unable to edit the single citation. Can anyone help? I would like to contribute further with even more updates to reduce the amount of outdated citation links, but at the moment I am stumped as to how to proceed. Please advise. Much appreciated, Teddy.bear307 (talk) 18:28, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hi, Teddy.bear307. The citations are not found in the References section; rather, they are found in the article itself, next to the text they are supporting. To edit a citation, you would need to edit the section where it is located. For example, if you wish to modify citation 2 in the Reference article, you would need to edit the "Etymology and meanings" section. For more information, you can check Help:Referencing for beginners. Hope this helps! –FlyingAce✈hello 18:54, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you FlyingAce :) That makes much more sense. I will read that help page and give your instructions a try.
Have an awesome weekend, Teddy.bear307 (talk) 19:24, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
How do I revise my rejected draft article in a more neutral tone?
An article I recently requested for submission titled Draft:Elias Wondimu was rejected due to it seemingly being promotional and not written in a neutral tone. I've reviewed the What Wikipedia is not page and the Wikipedia:Neutral Point of View page but am still finding a hard time applying the requirements to the article. Is anyone able to review it and suggest some specific edits that I should make to sound more neutral/not promotional? Also, are other wiki editors now able to view and edit the draft as well? Or do I need to move the draft to a sandbox? Malemseged (talk) 19:02, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hello, Malemseged. Like every other page in Wikipedia, Draft:Elias Wondimu may be read by anybody in the world. I'm not sure I should call it "promotional", but it is certainly not either neutral or encyclopaedic in tone. Just looking at the beginning of the biography, "where he spent his childhood with his parents and five siblings" is something I would expect to see in a magazine article, not an encyclopaedia. More specifically, in the next sentence, "inspired" is problematic in two ways: first it is saying something about his mental processes: this is not acceptable. You could quote somebody who said (in a published source) that they were inspired to do something, but you must not say so in Wikipedia's voice. More seriously, it is a generally an evaluative word. (It is possible to say explicitly that somebody was inspired by something you rate negatively, but saying "inspired to do something" is always positive in tone). A Wikipedia article must never use an evaluative expression about a subject unless it is directly quoting a reliable published source independent of that subject. So, again, you could say that "in XYZ newspaper, ABC said that he was inspired to become a surgeon", with a citation; but otherwise, no.
- Even more serious is the phrase in the next sentence "the injustices of the Ethiopian Government". Whatever your (or my) attitude towards the Ethiopian Government, this is blatantly non-neutral, and must not stand in a Wikipedia article.
- I hope these notes will help you. --ColinFine (talk) 00:15, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- @ColinFine: Thank you so much for your suggestions. These are incredibly helpful notes that I'll be sure to include in the revisions.
- Welcome to the Teahouse, Malemseged. Here are two more quotes that read to me as promotional and non-neutral in Wikipedia's voice:
- @ColinFine: Thank you so much for your suggestions. These are incredibly helpful notes that I'll be sure to include in the revisions.
- "discovered the pressing needs to offer a platform to a community of minority scholars, giving them a venue and circulating their scholarship among the general population. This inspired him to produce two academic journals"
- "As a reporter and column editor, Elias ran probing investigative stories that questioned the policies of the corrupt system in power and the emerging divisive political organizations at the time."
- Words and phrases like "pressing", "probing", "inspired him", "corrupt system" and "emerging divisive political organizations" are all examples non-neutral language that should never be used in Wikipedia's voice. Instead, attribute those assessments to independent reliable sources.
- In addition, you consistently call him "Elias". Our Manual of Style says the we should give a person's full name at first mention and normally refer to them by their surname subsequently. We do not use a person's first name to refer to them unless they are widely known only by their first name, as in the case of Beyoncé.
- You also have many external links in the body of the article. These should be removed. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:15, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- Actually, Cullen328, I disagree about the name. Ethiopians do not normally have surnames, and are referred to by their given name, not their patronymic. Our policy (WP:PATRONYMIC) says we should normally do likewise. Malemseged, I suggest you add the template {{Patronymic name}} to the top of the article, to explain why it uses a convention which seems odd to most English speakers. --ColinFine (talk) 11:18, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you for that information, ColinFine. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 17:37, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- Actually, Cullen328, I disagree about the name. Ethiopians do not normally have surnames, and are referred to by their given name, not their patronymic. Our policy (WP:PATRONYMIC) says we should normally do likewise. Malemseged, I suggest you add the template {{Patronymic name}} to the top of the article, to explain why it uses a convention which seems odd to most English speakers. --ColinFine (talk) 11:18, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
Do you know? - How the singing Chipmunks are called?
Alvin and The Chipmunks! The Names, alvin simon and Theodore AdwenKnowItAll (talk) 21:00, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hey there, mind telling us what exactly are you trying to explain? If you want that info to be posted in Alvin and The Chipmunks, it’s already there. SoaPuffball (talk) 08:44, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
Do my pages deleted?
Yes, users deleted my pages. Do I think I really hate them AdwenKnowItAll (talk) 21:01, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
- The article "Alvin and the Chipmunks discography" lists their albums, and most of the albums are each articles. David notMD (talk) 09:19, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
Thank for your inviting me here
I am very glad to come here to say thank for your concerning on my page.. God bless you..--Calvin500 (talk) 03:26, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
Inflation Template
I read alot of historical articles and they frequently have out of date UK currency amounts, so I learned how to use the inflation template. However, the template itself is 2 years out of date. I, and others, have requested an update at the appropriate places more than once to no avail. The reference the template uses can be found here. I tried updating it myself with no luck. Thank you for your time. 50.64.119.38 (talk) 10:10, 4 November 2017 (UTC) If this doesn't work I guess I'll have to try updating it again. As soon as I figure out what a praser is...
- If you know what you are doing, meaning that you won't break everything because of poor syntax and won't put a random value that does not match the previous methodology, the place to edit is Template:Inflation/UK/dataset, which gives the data used by each invokation of the template (for UK). TigraanClick here to contact me 11:02, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- In 2000 I took a semester of C++ in my first year. I could probably do it, but embarrassingly, when I tried, I couldn't figure out how to get past the first page. I thought it might be a IP thing. 50.64.119.38 (talk) 11:13, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- I've tried editing it (it's trivial to add the figure for 2016, the last one available at that source), but the comment says to update {{Inflation-fn}} and {{Inflation year}} as well, and I find the latter is protected. I don't know what would be the consequence of editing the first without the third, so I have abandoned the attempt. --ColinFine (talk) 11:30, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- @ColinFine: maybe leave a
{{Edit template-protected}}
request at Inflation-year with the whole set of changes that are needed? TigraanClick here to contact me 11:52, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- @ColinFine: maybe leave a
- I made a request here. Thanks for trying anyway, and for the advice. I'll let you know what happens. 50.64.119.38 (talk) 07:21, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Assistance with disturbance at article after copy edit
Dear Tea House hosts, Kunhimangalamis a small Indian village. Its sections were blanked and quite nasty comments inserted. I have never dealt with this sort of thing before. I have reverted just once to the last stable version (happens to be mine). I may need some back up or advice on where to seek assistance. Many thanks, and kind regards, Myrtle. Myrtlegroggins (talk) 11:35, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- The user who blanked the section has been blocked for 31h for vandalism, so there is not much to be done here. (You can know who it was by looking at the Page history.) If you ever encounter such issues before, the whole advice is at WP:RVAN; the short version is as such: if it is indeed vandalism (i.e. bad faith editing with the sole purpose of trashing the page), revert the offending content (just as you have done), warn the vandal (escalating the warnings as needed) if they did not yet receive a final warning, and if they did report them at WP:AIV. TigraanClick here to contact me 11:50, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you Tigraan for your helpful reply, and have a good day, Myrtle. Myrtlegroggins (talk) 19:39, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
Cleanup Questions
Hello. I am a very new editor called LightPirate which wants to help with correcting mistakes, sourcing, spelling and grammar and Manual of Style corrections. What are easy ways to check if something is original research or is not written in NPOV? Also should all information be able to be sourced on Wikipedia? Thanks! LightPirate (talk) 16:39, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hello LightPirate. Welcome to the Teahouse. I am not a host here but I may be able to help a little. I have a few suggestions. One would be to have some fun doing the The Wikipedia Adventure which has a number of games to get you up to speed. After that, perhaps have a read through the Manual of Style. It tells you what most editors do in many different circumstances. Then, join the Wikipedia Guild of Copy Editors. That is a group of friendly funky (if detailed oriented) dudes who like to volunteer to do what you like to do, that is, "copyedit". The Guild has a tab at the top of the main page called "How to copy edit". You could read that too. Don't be afraid to have a little go because whatever you do can be reverted. I have found over the years that one of the most important things is to make sure the comment you leave when you make an edit is detailed enough for other people to see that what you are changing is being done in good faith. I hope that helps and enjoy! (Sorry for butting in kind Teahouse host) Myrtlegroggins (talk) 20:01, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
- I will also join in. If you are in fact very new, consider copying the suspect text and its citation(s) to your sandbox. Then, you can go to the refs to see if in fact the text is supported, change/delete text as needed, etc. Once you are happy with the way it looks in Sandboc, copy it back to the article, replacing the original. Lastly, at the bottom is Edit summary. Wise to leave a short explanation for what you did. You can click on View history at the top to see what explanations look like. David notMD (talk) 01:30, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Asking fo rhelp to revert my page NIdeas_Creations_and_Productions_Pvt_Ltd
Dear Sir Definitely I need your help to correct my NIdeas_Creations_and_Productions_Pvt_Ltd. I requested you several times don't delete this page. If you need any correction or alternation please do it. This is not an advertisement. May be I am a learner I don't know the proper rules to create a page. But you can definitely correct it as per your rules. I request you once again please help me. So that I can get back my page. Please... Regards Mita Pal
- Welcome to the Teahouse, MITA PAL. I looked at the text of the deleted article and pretty much every sentence contained promotional language more appropriate to an advertisement than a neutral encyclopedia article. Therefore, it would not be proper to restore it. I am sorry but it is not your page. Once you saved it to Wikipedia, you gave up all control over it. Please read Your first article and also read about the neutral point of view. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 07:10, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused....
This is probably a stupid question or the wrong place to ask it, but how do I know what to help with? Like, I want to help edit articles. Is there any special page I can go to that will show me all of the pages that are in need of editing help? Every link I follow about editing and helping out doesn't really answer my question.
Many thanks in advance! ~Beth 07:28, 5 November 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PrincessBeth (talk • contribs)
- Hi, I believe the Wikipedia:Task Center would be a good place to look. Also check out the Wikipedia:Community portal where you will find articles that are categorised by the issues that need fixing (copyediting, adding refs, etc.). Hope this helps. Kosack (talk) 07:48, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Or, just pick an article where you know a lot about the topic, and see if there is stuff wrong. A tip though - look at Talk to learn what the debates and disagreements are about. David notMD (talk) 19:21, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Redirect
Hello there!
I was wondering how to redirect my wikimedia userpage to my english wikipedia userpage. I have added a line of code, but that does not seem to be working... any clue on it? Thanks! Adityavagarwal (talk) 11:25, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- I guess by "Wikimedia userpage" you mean meta:User:Adityavagarwal. meta:Soft redirect says you cannot make a hard interwiki redirect and gives some reasons, so I doubt you can improve on what you made so far (maybe you could template it with a meta-specific interwiki redirect template, but it will remain a soft redirect). TigraanClick here to contact me 11:53, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Tigraan Thanks a ton, for your help! :) Adityavagarwal (talk) 14:08, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Editing, title
Hi all,
I've written an article in my sandbox and pressed the button to edit it.
I have two questions : 1/ How long it takes to display that contribution in Wikipedia? 2/ I am not sure to have put a title on top of my text. How can I check that ?
Thank you very much Monolook (talk) 11:27, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hello Monolook. To answer your questions quickly: (1) forever if you just keep it in your sandbox, once submitted for review through the Articles for Creation process it usually takes a few weeks; (2) the title of the page is handled by where it is located, do not worry too much about it (ultimately the article will be located at Bernard Aubertin).
- I took the liberty of moving your draft article to Draft:Bernard Aubertin, and adding a banner so that once you think the article is ready, you just have to click the "submit your draft for review" button. However, I think there is still a bit of work to do before it can pass.
- I suggest you take a look at our guide to referencing for beginners, especially the "same reference used more than once" section, since all four current refs are from the same work. You should also include other sources to prove the subject is "notable" (i.e. has been written about at length by multiple reliable sources) - the article on the French Wikipedia has some (I assume you can read French?).
- Also: your sandbox (User:Monolook/sandbox) now redirects to the draft page; you can still edit the sandbox itself (for another article, for instance) by going to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Monolook/sandbox&redirect=no. (After following a redirect, clicking on the "redirected from..." will bring you the redirecting page.) TigraanClick here to contact me 11:44, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Tigraan,
Thanks a lot for the advices and your initiative. That's very helpful.Monolook (talk) 18:10, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Please help me understand what I'm doing wrong with this article.
Hi there, I'm new to wikipedia and article creating (especially for wikipedia). Currently I'm tasked to make my company page; a decade-old, well established company, Les' Copaque. I was told that our company page had been deleted at some point and have been tasked to recreate the company page.
None of my superiors know how to write a wiki page, and the task fell on to me to try and MAKE the company wikipedia page. I've been informed by admins/reviewers that my page is not of the right status to be deemed as a wikipedia page, but I'm not sure what I need to do to have my articles be considered notable to be published as a proper page. I've tried comparing my page to "Animonsta Studios" and noticed they hardly have outside references, yet are able to be an official wikipedia page.
Please help me understand how this whole thing works. What sort of references do I need? What's a good reference? How could I make a page on an animation series that has independent articles on it?
I'm really sorry for asking this many questions, I truly want to do a good job in editing my articles for the general public, but I'm lost and would like to find someone who can guide me through all this.NetizenNoWork (talk) 12:35, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- @NetzienNoWork: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I haven't yet fully reviewed your submission but I can tell you that if you have been directed to edit Wikipedia by your boss that you need to read and comply with WP:PAID, the paid editing policy, as soon as possible. That is required by Wikipedia's Terms of Use. You should also review WP:COI as well. 331dot (talk) 14:01, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- I would also say that the existence of other inappropriate pages does not mean yours can be permitted too. This is a volunteer project, where people do what they can when they can. That means some stuff gets through that shouldn't. 331dot (talk) 14:05, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- I must admit "Les' Copaque" seems better sourced than the article it is compared to—Animonsta Studios. There are clearly problems with the "Les' Copaque" article. It seems to me to be overly exhaustive. It is more than just an overview of the company. And it is too subjective. We read stuff like "[t]hey each have unique characteristics and personalities, leading to very funny situations in their day to day lives together." That would seem to be the Wikipedia editor's opinion, and it is not supported by a source. Bus stop (talk) 15:04, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hello, NetzienNoWork, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm afraid that the fact that your company has tasked you with creating a page on Wikipedia indicates that, like many people, your company has a complete misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is, and what it is for. Whether Wikipedia has an article about your company, and what it may contain, are not at all under your control. If there is an article, you are discouraged (thought not forbidden) from editing it directly, and Wikipedia has little interest in what the company (or its associates) says about itself, and no interest at all in how it wishes to be portrayed. If you do choose to create an article, you will (once you have made the mandatory declaration for a paid editor) have to find several places where people who have no connection whatever with the company have chosen to write about it, and been published in reliable places; and then you will have to forget everything you know about the company, and write an article solely from what those independent sources have said about it. Sorry. --ColinFine (talk) 18:39, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Here is a quote from your draft, NetizenNoWork, which includes overtly promotional and obviously false information:
- "stunning and successful animations. As a Multimedia Super Corridor (MSC) status company, Les’ Copaque Production specializes in high quality 3D animations and is based locally in Shah Alam, Selangor. Currently, all of Les’ Copaque Productions’s IPs have won countless awards both locally and internationally."
- You cannot call something "stunning and successful" in Wikipedia's voice. Any such evaluation needs to be cited to a reliable, independent source. As for "countless", are you really claiming that a person devoting all waking hours would be unable to count their awards in their lifetime? Hyperbole does not belong in Wikipedia articles. Please read and study the neutral point of view. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 19:12, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for the response 331dot, Bus stop, ColinFine and Cullen for the feedback. I'm very grateful for the amount of responses on this matter. I'll definitely look into the things that you've mentioned.
Just one more question, is it alright if I interlink the english wikipedia articles to it's Bahasa Melayu counterparts? For example, is it alright to link the english page of Upin & Ipin to the established Bahasa Melayu page of Les' Copaque?
Also, really sorry if I'm asking in the wrong place, but I noticed it's easier to publish a article on the Bahasa Melayu Wikipedia. I just wanted to clarify is it because of difference in admins, or probably a different style of writings?
Again, very sorry for any trouble I'm causing. I genuinely want to do the right thing here on Wikipedia.NetizenNoWork (talk) 01:20, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
Edit Summary
I cannot get past the 'Edit Summary and Save' on my Wikipedia Adventure. What is the correct formatting for saying that I have interoduced myself? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123Squiggles (talk • contribs) 14:46, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
How to get past the 'Edit summary and save' on the Adventure? 123Squiggles (talk) 15:31, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
How to get past the 'Edit summary and save' on the Adventure? 123Squiggles (talk) 15:31, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of Sandbox draft?
Hi. I was using sandbox to build a new page (Ritu Sethi) thinking it was just a draft and I could continue to edit it in my next session. I had copied and pasted a lot of info to this draft which I had no intention of ultimately publishing, instead I intended to just leave in selected bits. When I returned it had been a speedy deletion for 'unambigous advertising' and I can understand why! But I can't seem to find any 'challenge deletion' button to explain this to the deleter? Jimigav (talk) 15:35, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- @Jimigav: The page is at Draft:Ritu Sethi. It is not deleted. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 15:41, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- The time to challenge a speedy deletion, by the way, is before the article is deleted, not after it is deleted. However, as noted, it does still exist. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:50, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- You will need to add more independent reliable sources in order to get it moved into article space. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:52, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Many thanks for that clarification Robert. I do get confused with all the links I'm afraid. I'll try what you suggest! Jimigav (talk) 15:56, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- ps Actually I think that was one I submitted earlier than the one that was a 'speedy deleted' and I thought I had lost this one, so did it again with slightly different wording - which was the one that was 'speedy deleted'. Is it possible there is more than one in the system? I don't want it to look like I am just continuing to just submit articles in the hope that one will eventually be accepted? Jimigav (talk) 16:01, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Jimigav, according to your Contribution log, Draft:Ritu Sethi is the only currently existing version. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:11, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Ritu sethi (not a draft) is perhaps the (twice) deleted version to which the OP referred. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:48, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks very much Roger and David. I'll give it another try.
I'm so disappointed with myself for not using this help facility earlier!! Jimigav (talk) 21:43, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Help requested to get article talk archiving working again
- Naveen Jain (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
The talkpage was previously auto-archived by User:MiszaBot. Can someone switch it to a working bot without disrupting past archives? Thanks. --Ronz (talk) 16:08, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hello @Ronz:, I don't see why the current configuration shouldn't work (see Help:Archiving regarding the "old" bot name, such an old configuration is still functional in this case). However, the page's oldest thread had a bit of odd formatting, which may have confused the archiving bot (sometimes malformatted threads are ignored). I cleaned up and manually archived this thread. Suggest you wait a few days for the bot to go through the page again - if the cleanup fixed the issue, the bot should archive the oldest 3 threads next time. GermanJoe (talk) 19:15, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Errors in references in Pregabalin
Hi, can anyone work out what's causing all the errors in the references section in Pregabalin? Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 17:34, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Presumably some temporary glitch in the Wikipedia software. A purge cured it. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:50, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Speedy deletion
Why was my account deleted — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.112.34.215 (talk) 21:18, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hello IP user. Accounts cannot be deleted. Do you perhaps mean that your user page was deleted? Without knowing more about your situation it is difficult to help you. 331dot (talk) 21:23, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Accounts are not deleted; they need to be retained for attribution purposes. Accounts can be blocked for violation of Wikipedia's rules. User pages may be deleted if they fail to meet Wikipedia's requirements. There are 3 deletion processes, and if you are referring to speedy deletion specifically the criteria are listed at WP:Criteria for speedy deletion. If you link to the page in question, the deletion log will tell you which criterion was relevant in this case. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:26, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Create new page
Where do I go for help to create a new page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kathrynkm1 (talk • contribs) 22:03, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia. Creating a new article is difficult, and new editors are recommended to get experience in editing existing articles before trying to create a new article. When you are ready to create a new article, the advice is at WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:10, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Is .ogg acceptable for sound files on Wikipedia?
I was thinking of uploading a sound clip to an article, and I just wanted to confirm whether or not .ogg is okay. The Verified Cactus 100% 00:15, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
- Yes. See Wikipedia:Creation_and_usage_of_media_files#Audio Meters (talk) 00:33, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
AfD close
someone just closed an AfD that has been open less then a week? Can this be undone, I proposed it and I wanted to leave it open longer in case other editors wanted to comment. Seraphim System (talk) 02:16, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Seraphim System. Which AfD? Based on your edits I assume you mean Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Turkish Kurdistan (2nd nomination). It was open for 6 days and 23 hours, and had no posts for the last 3 days. AfD's are normally open for at least 7 full days unless there is an explicit speedy close but appealing to have it reopened for another hour would be a silly waste of time. Please accept that consensus will sometimes be against you. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:47, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
- I don't really need the patronizing tripe about consensus, I'm not going to accept an unsourced opinion from someone who doesn't even know that the capital of Turkey is Ankara and not Istanbul, no matter how politely you ask me to, but I already spoke to the closer so it's not worth discussing at this point. Seraphim System (talk) 04:52, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
Unable to get my research linked
Dear Wiki Editors
I have been waiting to get my research linked: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Indian_inventions_and_discoveries#INDIAN_CONTRIBUTIONS_IN_LARGE_SCALE_COLLABORATIONS Please can you do something? 202.142.69.154 (talk) 03:52, 6 November 2017 (UTC)