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Revision as of 21:22, 21 September 2005
See also: Wikipedia:Wikipedia_maintenance#Village_pump
- Wikipedia talk:Village Pump (Archive 1)
- Wikipedia talk:Village Pump (Archive 2)
- Wikipedia talk:Village Pump (Archive 3)
Archiving policy
Can I put a notice that the archive policy applied at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#Miscellaneous_archive also applies on all the sections of the Village Pump? Currently, there does not seem to be a clear policy for many of the sections. If I don't get any objections within a week, I'll do it. JesseW 05:09, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I'm fine with it. I don't even think the discussions should happen here. This should just be a central place to get attention. Dori | Talk 07:53, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks for replying and supporting me. Where should the discussions happen? (So I can post there, too.) And which discussions do you mean; the discussions on the Village Pump, the discussions of what archiving policy to have, or some other discussions? JesseW 08:22, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- This is a good idea. (I didn't respond earlier because you said you'd do it if you had no objection.) Maurreen 08:27, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Ok, as there were no objections, I will now do it. Let's see the s**tstorm of disagreement begin...(heh) JesseW 08:59, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Discussions
- The discussions will happen where they are pertinent. There can't be one specific place, or else we might as well have them on the pump. Dori | Talk 13:54, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
- I'm still a little unclear about which discussions you are referring to. :-) BTW, thanks Maurreen. JesseW 22:31, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- The discussions will happen where they are pertinent. There can't be one specific place, or else we might as well have them on the pump. Dori | Talk 13:54, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
I think Dori means that it would be better for the Pump to just direct people to discussions on talk pages. And you're welcome. Maurreen 22:39, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Talk: , Wikipedia:, meta:, wherever it's appropriate. Dori | Talk 22:54, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
- /me nods. JesseW 22:58, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Permanent archive?
Do I understand this new policy to mean that there will typically be no permanent archive of discussions? -- Jmabel | Talk 21:12, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)
- I think that should be tweaked to have the archives be numbered and not deleted. As long as there is no refactoring it shouldn't be that much work. What's important I think is that:
- VP should be the central page for getting general attention
- The page be manageable both in size and in archiving
- Big discussions not take place here
- Dori | Talk 23:46, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)
- Note that even if we do no archiving, there is a permanent archive of discussions(in the history of the page); the current system makes all messages available from the history of (VP section)/Archive also. While I wouldn't be directly opposed to creating a new, numbered page each time archiving is done, it does not seem much more difficult to require that people look through the history of /Archive, rather than look at the current versions of different numbered pages. Since topics would be moved to the archive en masse, and removed after 7 days en masse(I just look for date lines(the bold lines that should be included at the bottom of each archving) and delete sections that are out of date) the history should be pretty clean and easy to review.
- Regarding "VP should be the..."; I don't really understand what you mean. What does this have to do with archiving policy?
- Regarding "The page be manageable..."; I agree. I hope this policy does that. JesseW 04:11, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Also see Wikipedia:Wikipedia_maintenance#Village_pump. Any policy changes should probably be updated there.
- My understanding is the Pump isn't supposed to keep anything permanently.
- It appears that few people are doing any archiving, refactoring, etc., of Village Pump. A simple policy, such as Jesse W has suggested last week, can make for simple maintenance. If people care a lot, they can move the discussion, do the archiving, etc. Maurreen 04:28, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I've updated the maintenance page. Thanks! JesseW 12:35, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- It appears that few people are doing any archiving, refactoring, etc., of Village Pump. A simple policy, such as Jesse W has suggested last week, can make for simple maintenance. If people care a lot, they can move the discussion, do the archiving, etc. Maurreen 04:28, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
300KB!
The Village Pump front page is 300KB! The editing problem has been fixed with MediaWiki, but seriously, this is enough to crash people's browsers. I took out the MediaWiki links. Is this better, or is displaying the entire Village Pump on one page a Wikipedia tradition?
Perhaps there could be a link to display all the text on one page, as there is with WP:-), but as it is it's kind of an overload and a surprise. Ashiibaka tlk 05:47, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- It doesn't have to be this way. We could very easily have a guideline of ask a question here, but invite discussion elsewhere, and we could manually archive posts more than 2 weeks old or something. If you were having the discussion here instead of elsewhere it would get archived anyway. No need for refactoring or anything. Dori | Talk 05:57, Nov 14, 2004 (UTC)
- BTW, unless someone objects to my proposal above before the 15th, I will add the following notice (customized for each sub page) to the main VP page (and sub pages), and do the necessary archiving.
== [[Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive|Miscellaneous archive]] == Discussions older than 7 days (date of last made comment) are moved [[Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)/Archive|here]]. These dicussions will be kept archived for 7 more days. During this period the discussion can be moved to a relevant talk page if appropriate. After 7 days the discussion will be permanently removed.
Please do look at my proposal. It makes me a little uncomfortable that no-one has commented on it yet... JesseW 07:51, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I've reverted your changes, Ashibaka; yes, it is a Wikipedia tradition to have the entire Village Pump on one page. That's why this page exists. I didn't understand your changes till I saw them, but removing the main content of the page requires prior agreement, not boldness. Assuming nobody objects to my proposal above, the problem should be greatly helped by the archiving policy. JesseW 08:31, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Well, then, I'll propose making the page smaller by simply linking to the sections, on the grounds that 300KB is far too much to be displaying on one page, and that people are usually just going to want to look at a particular section anyway. Ashiibaka tlk 01:24, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- The whole point of the 6 templates being included here is that some people do want to see the whole village pump on one page. Those who do not should go to the Village pump sections instead. Angela. 21:24, Nov 18, 2004 (UTC)
- Well, then, I'll propose making the page smaller by simply linking to the sections, on the grounds that 300KB is far too much to be displaying on one page, and that people are usually just going to want to look at a particular section anyway. Ashiibaka tlk 01:24, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Summarised sections
I don't see the point of the "Summarised sections" if what the village pump says is true and it hasn't been archived since September 30. If it's no longer done, it may as well be removed. Any objections? Angela. 21:12, Nov 18, 2004 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. JesseW 22:12, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
article title too long?
I was disappointed when I tried to add an article about the word [[ornicopytheobibliopsychocrystarroscioaerogenethliometeoroaustrohieroanthropoichthyopyrosiderochpnomyoalectryoophiobotanopegobydrorhabdocrithoaleuroalphitohalomolybdoclerobeloaxinocoscinodactyliogeolithopessopsephocatoptrotephraoneirochiroonychodactyloarithstichooxogeloscogastrogyrocerobletonooenosapulinaniac]].
The error is "Bad Title".
Don't laugh, this is an actual word according to this article: [1]
According to a book of facts, the 310-letter word was used by medieval scribes to refer to someone who practices divination or forecasting by means of phenomena, interpretation of acts, or other manifestations related to animate or inanimate objects and appearances such as various animal behaviors, dreams, palmistry, wands, ring suspension and a number of other methods.
Can we increase Wikipedia's maximum length for an article's title?
- Interesting, I just checked on English_language/Long_words, and the word
- Acetylseryltyrosylserylisoleucylthreonylseryl prolylserylglutaminylphenylalanylvalylphenyl alanylleucylserylserylvalyltryptophylalanyl aspartylprolylisoleucylglutamylleucylleucyl asparaginylvalylcysteinylthreonylserylseryl leucylglycylasparaginylglutaminylphenylalanyl glutaminylthreonylglutaminylglutaminylalanylarginyl threonylthreonylglutaminylvalylglutaminylglutaminyl phenylalanylserylglutaminylvalyltryptophyllysyl prolylphenylalanylprolylglutaminylserylthreonyl valylarginylphenylalanylprolylglycylaspartyl valyltyrosyllysylvalyltyrosylarginyltyrosyl asparaginylalanylvalylleucylaspartylprolyl leucylisoleucylthreonylalanylleucylleucyl glycylthreonylphenylalanylaspartylthreonyl arginylasparaginylarginylisoleucylisoleucyl glutamylvalylglutamylasparaginylglutaminyl glutaminylserylprolylthreonylthreonylalanyl glutamylthreonylleucylaspartylalanylthreonyl arginylarginylvalylaspartylaspartylalanyl threonylvalylalanylisoleucylarginylseryl alanylasparaginylisoleucylasparaginylleucylvalyl asparaginylglutamylleucylvalylarginylglycyl threonylglycylleucyltyrosylasparaginylglutaminyl asparaginylthreonylphenylalanylglutamylseryl methionylserylglycylleucylvalyltryptophyl threonylserylalanylprolylalanylserine is actually linked to the article title Acetylseryltyrosylserylisol...serine
- so I guess that's the convention?
- Increasing the maximum from the already overgenerous 255 bytes would require a rebuild of the database; this would make the site uneditable for a day or two. Don't hold your breath. --Brion 01:17, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I'm still waiting for the day when we can support the 64,060-letter name for Methionylalanylthreonyl...leucine. :) BRIAN0918 12:02, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah, but who would read it or to check it for spelling errors? User:Davidizer13 09:06, 6 Sep 2005
Sections
I don't like the sectioning of the village pump. Bensaccount 20:25, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Yes it blows. I used to have the VP on my watchlist and I'd look it up regularly. Now I don't bother anymore. A shame, since it was nice having a central page for getting attention. It seems that people are now shifting this to the RC page, which is an even bigger shame as that page has another purpose. Dori | Talk 19:39, Dec 12, 2004 (UTC)
- Why don't you like it? Why does it blow? I don't lurk around the VP often enough to know what it should look like. What exactly is the problem? --David Iberri | Talk 03:14, Dec 13, 2004 (UTC)
- My guess is that the sectionin was done because of the size. Maurreen 03:52, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I still don't see how the sectioning presents a problem. So you've got seven VP pages on your watchlist instead of just one. What's the deal? If anything it helps concentrate discussions and gives others the option of only watching the VP topics that interest them. Oh, and I'm guessing "RC" means Wikipedia:Request for comment. --David Iberri | Talk 19:03, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)
I think "RC" means recent changes. Maurreen 19:08, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I much prefer it - you couldn't monitor the changes anything like as easily when everything was posted on one page. I can't say that people are shifting away from it because it's still very popular and, if anything, encourages you to write things more. violet/riga (t) 22:08, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
A soln. to the size (?)
I had once proposed having separate village pump sub-pages with dates in the title, e.g. Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) (Dec 27, 2004). The date represents when the page was started. Once that page gets too large (say on Jan 5, 2004), we could start using Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) (Jan 5, 2004).
The people who were having discussions on the previous page can continue doing so since that page hasn't been deleted, but those starting a new discussion need not be bothered about the page being too long having older discussions as well.
For continuity, both N (probably 2) most recent pages could be transcluded in Wikipedia:Village pump. The only other maintenance this requires is to update the link to the current page in Wikipedia:Village pump, Wikipedia:Village pump sections and probably a few more places.
This could be simplified if all that is absorbed into Template:Village pump, so that only that whenever a VP subpage gets too long, only that template and the transclusions in VP have to be modified.
If enough people are against sectioning the pump but are ok with dated pages, we could have things like Wikipedia:Village pump (Dec 27, 2004). In such a case probably we'd get enough discussions every day so as to have a page for everyday.
If we agree to have one page everyday (whether or not with sectioning the pump), the "current page links" mentioned above can be made to require zero maintenance, if we make them always point to today's page by using {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}}, etc. e.g. almost all links to [[Wikipedia:Village pump]] would become [[Wikipedia:Village pump ({{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}})]].
I'm not sure if I should be copying over my original proposal or its entire thread here. So I'll instead just link to it: [2] -- Paddu 19:17, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I'd like to propose that a similar scheme be used for WP:VfD, WP:RfD, WP:CfD, WP:HD, WP:RD, and other such fast-changing discussion pages too. And if anyone is opposed to spliting a project page because of watchlists, please be clear what the issue(s) is/are. AFAICT spliting causes no problems with watchlists (see my response to the previous thread) -- Paddu 19:41, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Multilingual statistics
The ranking table in Wikipedia:Multilingual statistics was last updated in December 2004. It's end of February already. I wish someone had time to update it. ;( I really liked it. Seeing and tracking progress of different languages... --rydel 12:35, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Changing user name
Is it possible to change my user name while keeping my password, settings, contributions and homepage?
--Tobymarshman 18:44, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Answered at Wikipedia:Village pump (assistance).-gadfium 02:31, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Weirdness
What the hell is going on? Instead of saying "Article" it says "cabal conspiracy", instead of "discussion" it's "groupthink", instead of "history" it's time travel, instead of "move" it's "teleport", and instead of "watch" it's "stalk." Is this the work of a hacker, or is it just an April Fool's Day prank by a developer? → JarlaxleArtemis 05:12, Apr 1, 2005 (UTC)
- I don't see that on my computer. I think it's just you. Better run virus checker. -- BRIAN0918 05:14, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Check the date, April 1, hello? —Wahoofive | Talk 05:24, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I believed its demon possessed!--Jondel 12:19, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I saw some of this yesterday ("vandalize this article" tab) - pre-April 1. - DavidWBrooks 14:34, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Access disparity
Maybe I'm posting in the wrong area, but I couldn't find anywhere to inquire: why is it it takes absolutely an eternity to access some pages, but lightning quick to access others, these requests all taking place at the same time? There's a piece of vandalism I've been wanting to revert now, but it keeps giving me no response errors when I can easily edit everything else. Any reason for this? -- Natalinasmpf 18:28, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
- The larger the page, the longer it takes to spool to the cache. Pages with images require the images to load to the cache as well. Also, until a bug I report recently was fixed, media objects also had to spool as well. →Raul654 19:03, May 14, 2005 (UTC)
Making the Village Pump a Portal, not a dumping ground of 697.8 KB!
Following the recent changes to Wikipedia:Votes for deletion that were a great success, I am going to follow suite here and be bold, though realizing that:
- A few months ago there was a comment over the 300kb page Wikipedia:Village pump is,
- But noting that this was before the VfD change was made
- Acknowledging that some people do wish to view the long page
- It seems to be a bit of tradition
The move will mirror what happened with VfD.
- Wikipedia:Village pump will be severely cut down, with links to the sections and...
- Wikipedia:Village pump (all) will be created with the express purpose of displaying all Village pump messages at once.
- Template:villagepump will be edited so that it makes more sense in the new context. For some strange reason, all the village pump sections link to it via a period. I have yet to uncover the reasoning for this.
Fortunantely, there will be no need for bot rewrites because unlike VfD, the Village pump already has the advantage of being physically seperated.
Why should the Wikipedia:Village pump page be seperated? The VfD page was seperated because people who came to talk about VfD would be more interested in links to appropriate sections and instructions, rather than a whopper page that was full of text. The same can apply for Village pump. Those coming here for discussion that are unfamiliar with the concept will undoubtably end up on the main page (talk page on the Main Page, for instance, links to Village pump directly). They will want to have links to appropriate sections and instructions, rather than a whopper page that was full of text.
I'm being bold, but precedent is at my side. This edit is comprimising of page edits and page creations across several areas, so it may be difficult to revert. See the list above for affected pages. I'm hoping that the response to this change will be similar to that which greeted the VfD change. Feel free to comment. Ambush Commander 00:41, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)
- Argh! There seems to be something wrong. Edits for three of the four pages have gone through, but not for the main page itself! Argh! I keep on getting a URL error. Ambush Commander 00:46, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)
- Okay, it's gone through. Four pages edited. Lots of chaos to ensue. ;) Ambush Commander 00:59, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)
- Yay! Thanks for being bold. I like it. (And I second AllyUnion's suggestion, if it could be implemented... JesseW 06:58, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Okay, it's gone through. Four pages edited. Lots of chaos to ensue. ;) Ambush Commander 00:59, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)
Suggested improvement
It would be nice to have some kind of summary or overview on the Village pump... like the TOC from each page. -- AllyUnion (talk) 07:09, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Change Time Format from 24 Hour to 12 Hour
I'd like to request a setting to change "23:00" into "11:00p". The 24 hour clock is killing me. I wish there was a setting in Preferences to do this, like I can with the dates. i.e. From "April 23" to "23 April". 24Hr time is hard to read. For example: what is 20:00 hours? I have to subtract 12 to get to 8pm. Why bother when you can just say 8pm? Why? I think a VAST majority of people will say to thier loved ones, "Honey, let's go to dinner at 8pm." Rather than, "Honey, let's go to dinner at 20:00." I would do this myself, but I'm dumb.-thanks for reading--Muchosucko 6 July 2005 03:19 (UTC)
- Well I wouldn't mind it added as an option, but for me it's the exact opposite. I always confuse AM and PM and deliberately configure all my digital clocks to use 24 hour time format. It might be true that most people use 12 hour time format in everyday conversation (I do too, mostly), but in writing I find the 24 hour format to be far superiour, for one thing it's just plain impossible to get AM and PM times confused (well unless it's a time before 12:00 and you are asuming 12 hour style). --Sherool 6 July 2005 21:28 (UTC)
- I'd also have no problem with a preference, but prefer the 24 hour clock myself. -- Jmabel | Talk July 8, 2005 17:43 (UTC)
To report sites that copy Wikipedia content
To report sites that copy Wikipedia content makes it's sound like they're unallowed to copy that content, I think it should be worded better but couldn't think of anything. —Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason July 7, 2005 22:26 (UTC)
Village dump
Why can't we have a preserved archive? lots of issues | 08:38, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Wikipedia Discussion Forums
Have you ever considered a Wikipedia forum? I think it might be fun. 24.11.11.247
- Hmm...it might be fun. It might also become a place where some users would discuss Wikipedia policy, and then the charges of cabal would start flying fast and furious. :) Func( t, c ) 03:57, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
- The word "cabal" means a group of conspirators working in secret. I, Func, Jimbo, and a small group of SysOps have been suppressing the idea of a Wikipedia forum since early 1999. We met in the wood paneled study of my English manor house. Cigar smoke hung in the air. Hunched over a mahogany desk and surrounded by those elite Wikipedians, Jimbo decided too much unregulated discussion among unemployed PhD holders will reveal our collusion with an alien race. With the help of WikiMedia software, the extraterrestrials plan on distracting the world population with a secret project, years in the making -- codenamed: WikiPorno. When editing that licentious Wiki has numbed the minds of enough people, they will infect us all with a flesh-eating nanovirus.--Muchosucko 06:09, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
- SHHH! — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 04:42, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:OpenCabal -- Jmabel | Talk 04:20, July 30, 2005 (UTC)
- The word "cabal" means a group of conspirators working in secret. I, Func, Jimbo, and a small group of SysOps have been suppressing the idea of a Wikipedia forum since early 1999. We met in the wood paneled study of my English manor house. Cigar smoke hung in the air. Hunched over a mahogany desk and surrounded by those elite Wikipedians, Jimbo decided too much unregulated discussion among unemployed PhD holders will reveal our collusion with an alien race. With the help of WikiMedia software, the extraterrestrials plan on distracting the world population with a secret project, years in the making -- codenamed: WikiPorno. When editing that licentious Wiki has numbed the minds of enough people, they will infect us all with a flesh-eating nanovirus.--Muchosucko 06:09, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
a wiki forum would be good because it would allow users to communicate-and maybe even work together on projects. this would be excellent for those of us who want to countrobute but have neither the time nor money.
Female adult bio
How would I access and 'Female adult bio' infobox for pages in other languages?--86.129.72.120 12:24, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
- aliants
do we have an article about an old videogame called "aliants"? about an alient incvvasion of big ol alein ants? Khulhy 02:53, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
Fnord!s
any edit anyone sees with that edit summary, im just adding fnords, no harm meant, no vandalism, but it woud been that Fnords should be around, at least for a cmmunal self laugh. thankns for listening! Gavin the Chosen 20:50, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
oh, and i promise to be careful labout where i placve them, i wont break any links or templates. sound good? Gavin the Chosen 20:52, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
Contributions not working
Help| My contributions page doesn't detail my earlier works, why?
- Looks okay to me. Three possibilities: 1. Wikipedia was running slowly at the time you looked, and didn't finish refreshing the page. 2. Some of your earlier contributions were to pages which have since been deleted. 3. Your earlier contributions were using a different user name or you were not logged in, and you don't realise that they won't be attributed to your current name automatically.-gadfium 06:49, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
list of people who have siad they are gods
on that articel, a number of editors constantly remove the " jesus" entry, and leave goo reasons, but two editors, hipocrite in particular, reverts it every time. apparently it offends his religion. other people revert ME out of principle. Id like it very much if other editors would remove what i and others have tried to justifiably remove.Gavin the Chosen 13:20, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
- Hi. I'm a Jew. Thanks. The commonly held perspective on Jesus' godhood is well explained in the article. You are welcome to put a source that says Jesus never said he is god into the comments box on Jesus. You are not welcome to remove him. Hipocrite 13:29, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
thanks for bringing the argument to where it doesnt belong, hipocrite. anyone wishing to partake in this duscussiopn, seethe articvle talk page, please.Gavin the Chosen 13:31, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
- When you impugn my motives on some random page, I feel compelled to defend myself. I welcome all responsible editors to the list. Hipocrite 13:36, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
Is data copyrighted?
Hello, I want to make a chart on economic data of Haiti for the Economy of Haiti page. I have found some good data on subscription sites accessed through my university, such as LexisNexis. Am I allowed to use this data in building my own chart as long as I give my sources? I do not want to use their charts, but will make my own. Can I do this based on their data or is the data itself copyrighted? Thanks. --MateoP 20:24, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
- So far as I know, information cannot be copyrighted; only the way in which it is expressed. The chart is copyrighted, the data that formed it is not. I could be wrong though. --Golbez 20:26, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
- You can always say "results of so and so's study" and provide a citation. In fact, such behavior is encouraged! — Ambush Commander(Talk) 20:48, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
RfA discussion
I have general concerns about the RfA process.
Taxman, an admin, told me here that "The much better way to handle the issue if you think there is a serious problem in the way the RFA policy is handled would be to let your RFA stay removed then bring the issue up on the RFA talk page and point to that discussion from relevant other places," which presumably include this page here.
Some of you recall my recent "failed" RfA applicant, and my concerns are surely specific to myself, but my attempt to discuss my concerns was opposed: Admins at the talk page of my RfA, Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship/GordonWatts, locked both the RfA (vote closed) --and its talk page! (Their excuse that my problems were only "general" did not have merit: My problems, while they surely affect a "general" wide range of users, were also specific to me as well, but they were afraid to have that material posted, and I did not have unblock magic.)
So, since these are "system-wide" problems that affect loads of persons, here are the locations where discussion is currently held:
- Misc. Discussions: User_talk:Jimbo_Wales
- User_talk:GordonWatts/RfA (Backup, in case someone tampers with links above -plus I've saved a copy on my computer, in case some deletionist Admin trots into town.)
--GordonWatts 22:49, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- I am going on Wiki break. Too busy with other things. I wish you all the best regarding analyzing and addressing these and other concerns. Cheers.--GordonWatts 19:04, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
--Hans863
what would you guys think of adding in the placeopedia website into wikipedia. see www.placeopedia.com . we can at least do it better than them because we have more users. hans863