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Can anyone find more details about the career of Tadeusz Pietrzykowski, the boxer of Auschwitz?
I expanded his bio at Tadeusz Pietrzykowski, but most sources focus on his wartime unofficial matches and are very sparse about his pre-war and post-war official matches. Can anyone help? He qualified to the finals of the 1937 Polish Boxing Championships (missing article, on pl the list is at pl:Mistrzostwa Polski w boksie). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:10, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
Potential notability of Jonathan Kumuteo
Hi all! I was contacted off-wiki asking if an article could be made for Jonathan Kumuteo, and boxing is really not my sphere of knowledge. As such, I am not certain whether they are notable, and ask the input of people more experienced in this field. If they are, I'd probably add it to the list of requested articles for boxing, as I am by no means confident in writing a boxing related article as I understand none of the terminology. I've gathered a few sources after some initial googling, and it seems they may meet criterion 4 of the boxing SNG, but I'm not entirely sure: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12]. Thanks for your help, Vermont (talk) 18:58, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Does he satisfy the criteria at WP:NBOXING? Among other things he is a two-time Asian Games bronze medalist. Thanks! Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:18, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
CfD
Dropping this link here as I expect minimal participation as is with all boxing related deletion discussions. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 August 3#Category:International light-heavyweight boxing champions. – 2.O.Boxing 13:25, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- I think it is a category that we should be keeping not deleting. --HuntGroup (talk) 16:55, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
WBC renamed minimumweight
WBC have renamed the division strawweight at their latest convention. Here's an article from World Boxing News detailing it. I've made the changes on the relevant WBC articles, just needs changing in the MOS. Also, are instances of past "WBC minimumweight champion" in individual articles to be kept as such or changed to strawweight? I'm ever so slightly leaning towards changing but not so sure. – 2.O.Boxing 15:29, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Changed at the MOS. Go ahead and change all instances retroactively wherever needed—it'll all point to the same article anyway. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 16:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
WBC female
Just a heads up. Despite this, I don't think we need to change any terminology.. unless they start putting men against women. Nor do we (hopefully) need to specify "WBC male". Mac Dreamstate (talk) 15:10, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
Lack of coverage of early bareknuckle boxers
I've noticed Wikipedia doesn't have much on many of the important early English boxers, such as Jack Slack. I'm curious if there's much consideration of the reason for this. Is it a issue of lacking reliable sources or notability, or is it just that no one has made the articles? If the latter I'm happy to assist, though I'll probably need people to clean up my efforts. For what it's worth I submitted an article on William Stevens for review to test the waters on this, as I don't want to start on any others if it's clear none of them will be accepted, but any input would be greatly appeciatedd. Bitplayervesti (talk) 18:56, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Notability of National titles
This issue has come up in a AFD discussion so I thought I would bring it here. I think Wikipedia:WikiProject Boxing/Title Assessment is quite limited and needs to be expanded, especially to including the national title for some of the major boxing nations as only the British and Irish national titles are included at the moment. I have an idea about what national titles should be included but I what I would like to hear from other editors is what national titles they think should be included?--HuntGroup (talk) 11:03, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- I agree. For Europe, national titles from France, Germany, Italy, and Spain should be included, and probably many more. --Michig (talk) 11:58, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
When I redrew the Notability Criteria for boxers back in 2016 this is something that I had suggested. The Notability Criteria for professional boxing is far more restrictive than any other genuinely global sport. --Donniediamond (talk) 12:03, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- One issue I remember about this was the likelihood of notability for all 17 weight classes (or those contested). For example, in Japan, does the cruiserweight champion get as much coverage as the flyweight champion? Clearly the flyweight is notable, but there was doubt on the upper weights. That is why only British, Irish, and US (USBA) champions are included; because they are English language nations, so it was relatively easy to establish those as presumptively notable for all weights. I thought we tried adding Australia, but it was hard to establish for the lower weights despite being in English. Do enough editors speak German to establish the last 10 German flyweight champions were notable to overcome the deletion crew/those that require a Papal edict to make a change? I am all for expanding/adding national titles, but I worry it is an exercise in futility. RonSigPi (talk) 17:11, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
AfD
Are there any editors experienced with GNG willing to take a look at this afd? The article doesn't have a large number of lengthy references to examine so it wouldn't be very time consuming. – 2.O.Boxing 18:24, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Medal table
I think the medal table should be organised by the level/prestige of the tournament (regardless of medals won). For example, for English boxers (or Europeans):
Medal record | ||
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Men's amateur boxing | ||
Representing Great Britain | ||
Olympic Games | ||
2016 Rio | Heavyweight | |
Representing England | ||
World Championships | ||
2019 Yekaterinburg | Heavyweight | |
European Championships | ||
2015 Samokov | Heavyweight | |
EU Championships | ||
2018 Valladolid | Heavyweight | |
Strandzha Cup | ||
2015 Sofia | Heavyweight | |
ABA Championships | ||
2012 London | Heavyweight |
The vast majority of medal tables I've seen are organised like this which made me think this was the standard, but the example in the MOS shows different. My main reasoning is, an Olympic bronze is considered a higher achievement than a World, European, or Strandzha Cup gold. Thoughts? – 2.O.Boxing 10:08, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Not a big MOS guy, but I do know that only major championships are should be listed. The Strandzha Cup and ABA Championships shouldn't be listed. Its only world level, major region, or other major games (e.g. Pan Arab Games). I know it doesn't answer your question, but thought it worth pointing out. RonSigPi (talk) 17:13, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
- Disregarding MOS:BOXING for a moment, I've never understood the rationale of "most prestigious first". If a boxer wins a bronze medal at some tournament in 2000, a silver at a different tournament in 2004, and Olympic gold in 2008, it doesn't make sense to me to list the 2008 one first just because of prestige. I think it should be chronological from top to bottom, like how we list boxing titles won (sanctioning body establishment order and/or weight class order) in the various sections.#
- However, I've yet to see a general MOS on the medals table—if there is one I'd been interested to see it, and possibly amend our MOS accordingly (if they prestige first, I won't object). Mac Dreamstate (talk) 19:32, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
RfC about Sherdog.com at RSN
There is a discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Responses (Sherdog.com) regarding the reliability of Sherdog.com which is going to affect considerable amount of boxing articles. I would like to hear your opinion on that. Thanks in advance. Best, Lordpermaximum (talk) 20:55, 14 October 2020 (UTC)