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Please take a look at [[Mashad Ali]]. An anonymous user created this, and it needs some work. -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 04:29, 2004 Nov 6 (UTC) |
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== ''Empire of the Sultans'' still seeking reviewers == |
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==Islam stub== |
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Since I posted the above notice about the [[Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Empire_of_the_Sultans/archive1|Featured Article Candidacy]] of ''[[Empire of the Sultans]]'', there has been more interest and the review process has progressed further, which I'm very grateful for. We still need more reviewers to take part, following the instructions at [[Wikipedia:FACSUPPORTOPPOSE]]. A great deal of work has gone into both the article and the review; this is a chance to make a community decision on the results. Thanks in advance for any help! [[User:MartinPoulter|MartinPoulter]] ([[User talk:MartinPoulter|talk]]) 13:22, 29 April 2024 (UTC) |
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There is now an Islam stub (see [[Template:Islam-stub]]) that can be used for very short Islam-related articles. There is also the corresponding [[:Category:Islam-related stubs]] for the Islam stub. In taking a quick look at [[:Category:Religion stubs]], it looks like a large percentage of them could be moved to the Islam stub. Also, if you do a Google site search for Islam+stub, there are a fair number of plain stubs that could also be converted into Islam stubs. It also looks like a good percentage of [[:Category:Substubs]] may also be Islam stubs. In fact, my guess is that a fully populated Islam stub category might be rather large, so it might be a good idea to create a few subcategories now. I was thinking that an Islam-bio-stub (biographies) would be a very good one to create, and possibly an Islam-geo-stub (geography) (to be filled with articles like [[Islam in Canada]]). If you have any questions, comments, or suggestions, please contact me or [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting]]. [[User:GK|gK]] [[User talk:GK|¿?]] 09:04, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC) |
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== Help needed at [[Abu Lu'lu'a Firuz]], re addition of Persian name and concerns of circular sourcing == |
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:There are currently 439 articles in [[:Category:Islam-related stubs]]. Many of the articles look like they are biographical, so the Islam WikiProject should think about creating an Islam-bio-stub. To propose a new stub, please see [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Criteria#Proposing new stubs - procedure]]. |
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Your input would be appreciated at [[Talk:Abu Lu'lu'a Firuz#Sources for the name Piruz Nahavandi]]. Summaries of the dispute and discussion thread [[Talk:Abu Lu'lu'a Firuz#Summary of the dispute and discussion|may be found here]]. Thanks! <span style="text-shadow:#000 0em 0em 1em">☿ [[User:Apaugasma|<span style="color:#6a0dad">Apaugasma</span>]] ([[User talk:Apaugasma|<span style="color:#000">talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Apaugasma|☉]])</span> 15:20, 2 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:The participants in the Islam WikiProject should also take a look at [[:Category:People stubs]] (associated with {{tl|bio-stub}}), which has numerous obviously Arabic names in it, with many of those probably associated with Islam and who could also go into the new Islam-bio-stub. [[User:BlankVerse|<font color=green>''Blank''</font><font color= #F88017>''Verse''</font>]]<font color=#2554C7> </font>[[User talk:BlankVerse|<font color=#F660AB>∅</font>]] 6 July 2005 04:48 (UTC) |
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== Requested move at [[Talk:Grand Mosque of Erzurum#Requested move 4 May 2024]] == |
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== Theology-centrism? == |
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[[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk:Grand Mosque of Erzurum#Requested move 4 May 2024]] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. [[User:Wikiexplorationandhelping|Wikiexplorationandhelping]] ([[User talk:Wikiexplorationandhelping|talk]]) 13:08, 9 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== Pre-RfC stage @ Talk:Jinn == |
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Sorry for coining that phrase up there. |
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*{{al|Jinn}} |
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* Users are discussing [[WP:DUE|DUE/UNDUE]] relevance and fringe-ness inputs requested also at [[Talk:Jinn#Comparative mythology]]. |
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* Also A user has proposed updates for consideration at [[User:Louis P. Boog/sandbox/Jinn sandbox 4-20-2024|this sand box]] for the article [[Jinn]]. |
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As a discussion facilitator fyi a [[WP:DUE]] discussion (some aspects may touch [[WP:Fringe]]) is at [[Talk:Jinn#Pre-RfC]] stage's [[WP:RSN#Hachette Livre]] and [[Wikipedia:No original research/Noticeboard#Notable scholar's own work acceptable or OR?|WP:ORN]] step. After RSN and WP:ORN step, RfC formatting is likely to be discussed at [[Talk:Jinn#Pre-RfC]] in a new sub section. |
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I just created [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering Systemic Bias Open Tasks#Islam, Muslims, and the Muslim World]]. Was considering creating [[Wikipedia:Islam and Muslim World-regional notice board]] when I found this page. Problem is, with policies like "''Arabic Wikipedia should be relied on for definitions and new articles written ...''", this page seems like it is not the right community for things like the page I recently created at: [[Muslim educational institutions]] or even [[Muslim architecture]] and so on. |
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[[User:Bookku| Bookku ]] ([[User talk:Bookku|talk]]) 04:56, 21 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== RFC on [[Rafida]] == |
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What do we do? Go ahead and create that page above, or change the name of this project, or create a parallel [[WP:WikiProject Muslims and Muslim World]]?[[User:IFaqeer|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:IFaqeer|iFaqeer]] [[User talk:IFaqeer|(Talk to me!)]] 22:40, Mar 1, 2005 (UTC) |
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An RFC is in progress at [[Talk:Rafida#RFC_on_Rejection_of_Truth_in_Lede]]. Your participation is requested. |
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== Wikiportal == |
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[[User:Robert McClenon|Robert McClenon]] ([[User talk:Robert McClenon|talk]]) 05:44, 22 May 2024 (UTC) |
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== [[Talk:Israel]] has an [[Talk:Israel#RfC:_mention_apartheid_in_the_lead?|RfC on the topic: mention apartheid in the lead?]] == |
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I have put in a request for [[Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Muslim World]] at [[Wikipedia:Wikiportal]][[User:IFaqeer|<nowiki></nowiki>]]—[[User:IFaqeer|iFaqeer]] [[User talk:IFaqeer|(Talk to me!)]] 02:56, Mar 11, 2005 (UTC) |
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<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">[[File:Ambox warning orange.svg|48px|alt=|link=]]</div>'''[[:Talk:Israel]]''' has an RfC. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the '''[[Talk:Israel#RfC:_mention_apartheid_in_the_lead?|discussion page]]'''.<!-- Template:Rfc notice--> Thank you. [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 15:10, 3 June 2024 (UTC) |
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== Sharia oversimplification == |
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== Muhammad page == |
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I saw in the hajj article something about "Islamic law says that non-Muslims enter Mecca under penalty of death". That is bad and wrong and only serves to keep prejudice alive through ignorance. Sharia is not codified law like canon law that every Muslim accepts. There are attempts through fiqh to try to make human law match God's law, but there is not one sharia that all Muslims follow, it's an abstract concept that peopel try to realize through written law. Surely all attempts at writing Islamic law do not state enter Mecca = death so.... let's fix that problem [[User:Grenavitar|gren]] 21:58, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC) |
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Hi folks. We have a bunch of false and inauthentic things added to the [[Muhammad]] page which i have been trying to address but people undo my edits. Please add to the discussion if you are educated about this topic. [[User:DivineReality|DivineReality]] ([[User talk:DivineReality|talk]]) 22:31, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
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== Reliable sources noticeboard discussion == |
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== Islam related topic on VfD == |
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There is a new discussion open at '''[[WP:RSN#RfC: Sources for Muhammad]]''' that may be of interest to this project. [[User:Left guide|Left guide]] ([[User talk:Left guide|talk]]) 06:23, 14 June 2024 (UTC) |
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[[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Sunbul Effendi]] was posted 4 May 2005. Perhaps participants of this WikiProject might be more able to comment on the notability or otherwise of [[Sunbul Effendi|the article]] and/or review the article's content and the transcription of the name and other terms used. --[[User:AYArktos|AYArktos]] 22:18, 9 May 2005 (UTC) |
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== Should [[Cain]] and [[Abel]] be merged into [[Cain and Abel]]? == |
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== Transliteration of Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, et al. == |
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Your view is welcome at [[Talk:Cain_and_Abel#Should_Cain_and_Abel_be_merged_into_this_article?]]. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 07:19, 16 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Wikipedia would greatly benefit from a standard [[romanization]] (or at least a greatly narrowed field of possibilities) for Arabic, Farsi, and other languages important to Islamic history. This would help in finding and linking to articles, creating new articles that people can find, and so on. Editing the timelines of Islamic history, for example, would be made much easier if we had such a system to go by. For Arabic at least, I tentatively propose adopting a modified form of the [http://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/romanization/arabic.pdf Library of Congress romanization system] (PDF), simplified to get around the difficulties of special characters. It's mostly phonetically transparent to your average English-speaker, I think, very similar to the UN system (avoiding any perceived US bias) and not too difficult to learn. Obviously, I am open to suggestions. --[[User:Skoosh|Skoosh]] 01:09, 26 May 2005 (UTC) |
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:I agree that standardizing on something would be good. I'd also like to point out that there are certainly commonly used words that we may want to settle on a standard spelling for, regardless of the standard. The "Mecca/Makkah" issue is one of those. Some words are so common that we even want to settle on a bad transliteration, just so people will understand. For example, "Masjid" redirects to "Mosque". I think that is a good idea, despite the fact that "Mosque" is a lousy way to spell (and pronounce) the word. |
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:Now, what about the four books: "Taurat", "Zabur", "Injil", and "Koran" are the most common spellings according to Google. Currently, "Koran" redirects to "Qu'ran". Is that good? I don't know. On [[People of the Book]] we see the spelling "Injeel". Should that be changed? In the [[Zabur]] article it is spelled "Injil", but we see "Tawrat". |
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:Any thoughts? Any suggestions for other words we may want to standardize? (Also point me to any previous versions of this same discussion, in case I missed it.) |
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:— [[User:Nowhither|Nowhither]] 01:47, 27 August 2005 (UTC) |
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== Mecca/Makkah? == |
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There is a straw poll on the naming of the Mecca/Makkah article at [[talk:Mecca]]. 6 July 2005 04:25 (UTC) |
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== Muslim Calendar == |
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Can somebody please complete the [[Calendars of 2005#Islamic Calendar|Islamic Calendar of 2005]]? It only goes up to Rabi`-ul-Akhir. --[[User:Munchkinguy|Munchkinguy]] 7 July 2005 03:01 (UTC) |
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== the Prophet == |
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As you might have noted there has been a crusade to change all references of Muhammad as the prophet to just Muhammad. Now, sometimes this is useful because of ambiguity or various honorifics being place. However, the editors doing this have little sense of context. Sometimes the emphasis is meant to be on the prophethood which is why prophet is mentioned. His importance is in being a prophet so there are times when it should be mentioned. The basis for these changes are that it is POV. That is not so, he is the prophet of Islam because when put that way we are by no means asserting that he is the bearer of God's message but that he was during his time the spokesman for his religion. Please have some concept of this before you do mass edits all over the board that change the meanings of what was written. [[User:Grenavitar|gren]] [[User talk:Grenavitar|グレン]] 13:10, 29 July 2005 (UTC) |
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Gren has my vote. |
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--[[User:Striver|Striver]] 17:56, 29 July 2005 (UTC) |
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== notice == |
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There are related VFDs - [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Opposition to Islam]] and [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Klonimus/AINB]] [[User:-Ril-|<nowiki>~~</nowiki><nowiki>~~</nowiki>]] ( [[User:-Ril-/BadBoy|!]] | [[User:-Ril-/Newgate|?]] | [[User:-Ril-/Nissa|*]] ) 19:11, 10 August 2005 (UTC) |
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== Opposition to merge of Islam and SIIEG WikiProjects == |
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I strongly reject the possible merge of the Islam WikiProject and the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Islam:SIIEG|SIIEG WikiProject]], because the Islam WikiProject seeks absolutely no POV whereas the SIIEG WikiProject seeks to push their own POV. --[[User:JuanMuslim|JuanMuslim]] 01:37, 28 October 2005 (UTC) |
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Empire of the Sultans still seeking reviewers
Since I posted the above notice about the Featured Article Candidacy of Empire of the Sultans, there has been more interest and the review process has progressed further, which I'm very grateful for. We still need more reviewers to take part, following the instructions at Wikipedia:FACSUPPORTOPPOSE. A great deal of work has gone into both the article and the review; this is a chance to make a community decision on the results. Thanks in advance for any help! MartinPoulter (talk) 13:22, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
Help needed at Abu Lu'lu'a Firuz, re addition of Persian name and concerns of circular sourcing
Your input would be appreciated at Talk:Abu Lu'lu'a Firuz#Sources for the name Piruz Nahavandi. Summaries of the dispute and discussion thread may be found here. Thanks! ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 15:20, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Grand Mosque of Erzurum#Requested move 4 May 2024
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Grand Mosque of Erzurum#Requested move 4 May 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Wikiexplorationandhelping (talk) 13:08, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
Pre-RfC stage @ Talk:Jinn
- Jinn (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch
- Users are discussing DUE/UNDUE relevance and fringe-ness inputs requested also at Talk:Jinn#Comparative mythology.
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As a discussion facilitator fyi a WP:DUE discussion (some aspects may touch WP:Fringe) is at Talk:Jinn#Pre-RfC stage's WP:RSN#Hachette Livre and WP:ORN step. After RSN and WP:ORN step, RfC formatting is likely to be discussed at Talk:Jinn#Pre-RfC in a new sub section. |
Bookku (talk) 04:56, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
RFC on Rafida
An RFC is in progress at Talk:Rafida#RFC_on_Rejection_of_Truth_in_Lede. Your participation is requested. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:44, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
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Talk:Israel has an RfC. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. M.Bitton (talk) 15:10, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
Muhammad page
Hi folks. We have a bunch of false and inauthentic things added to the Muhammad page which i have been trying to address but people undo my edits. Please add to the discussion if you are educated about this topic. DivineReality (talk) 22:31, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Reliable sources noticeboard discussion
There is a new discussion open at WP:RSN#RfC: Sources for Muhammad that may be of interest to this project. Left guide (talk) 06:23, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
Should Cain and Abel be merged into Cain and Abel?
Your view is welcome at Talk:Cain_and_Abel#Should_Cain_and_Abel_be_merged_into_this_article?. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:19, 16 June 2024 (UTC)