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Need to find a free image of [[Rudolf Carnap]]. Where is [https://blogs.illinois.edu/view/8885/2063680752 this one] from? [[User:MisterCake|<span style="color: #000000;">'''Cake'''</span>]] ([[User talk:MisterCake#top|talk]]) 17:52, 6 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:If [https://phaidra.univie.ac.at/detail/o:1526295 here] is to be believed, it is under copyright :( [[User:Shapeyness|Shapeyness]] ([[User talk:Shapeyness|talk]]) 12:53, 21 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::Hey, at least it's only until 2026 for some of them... [[User:Psychastes|Psychastes]] ([[User talk:Psychastes|talk]]) 20:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::{{re|Psychastes}} how did you figure out 2026? [[User:Shapeyness|Shapeyness]] ([[User talk:Shapeyness|talk]]) 09:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Not necessarily that specific picture (though I suspect it's one of the earlier ones), but the pictures in that archive are dated "1932,1930,1935" so some of them (and yes, I suppose we'd have to do additional research to figure out which ones...) will enter the public domain in the US in 2026, or 95 years after creation. [[User:Psychastes|Psychastes]] ([[User talk:Psychastes|talk]]) 17:11, 22 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::Well shoot. Nice try and nice find though. [[User:MisterCake|<span style="color: #000000;">'''Cake'''</span>]] ([[User talk:MisterCake#top|talk]]) 11:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::@[[User:MisterCake|MisterCake]], [[User:Psychastes|Psychastes]]: I happened to be looking in the same place again and there is [https://valep.vc.univie.ac.at/virtualarchive/public/ASP_Archive%3ECarnap_Collection%3EBox_23%3EFolder_01__Carnap_various_pictures_with_Ina_Elisabeth_Willy_Hochkeppel_one_by_Lutman_1922-1965%3EDSC_3166/a:559407 this one]. I believe the back of the photo is [https://valep.vc.univie.ac.at/virtualarchive/public/ASP_Archive%3ECarnap_Collection%3EBox_23%3EFolder_01__Carnap_various_pictures_with_Ina_Elisabeth_Willy_Hochkeppel_one_by_Lutman_1922-1965%3EDSC_3167/a:559405 shown here] dated 1922, not sure how to fully verify that though. [[User:Shapeyness|Shapeyness]] ([[User talk:Shapeyness|talk]]) 20:16, 9 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::It does appear that way. He looks a bit like [[Randall Rauser]] there. If you are at all seasoned with Austrian sources I'd love to know one other than Dummett's for Austria and [[Analytic philosophy]]. Seeing [[Frank P. Ramsey|Ramsey]] there too is nice. [[User:MisterCake|<span style="color: #000000;">'''Cake'''</span>]] ([[User talk:MisterCake#top|talk]]) 02:46, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::Sorry, not at all seasoned with Austrian realism sadly. [[User:Shapeyness|Shapeyness]] ([[User talk:Shapeyness|talk]]) 17:18, 14 June 2024 (UTC) |
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== Request for input on political philosophy topic: Splitting 'separation of powers' == |
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Your input would be much appreciated at [[Talk:Separation of powers#Splitting off 'branches of government': The solution to finally advancing past 'start class'?]], particularly if you think of yourself as a member of the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Philosophy/Social and political|social and political philosophy task force]]. |
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[[Separation of powers]] is a central concept in normative and descriptive political theory, and a widely-known concept among the general public, generally through participation in high school [[civics]]. As such, its perennial status as a [[Wikipedia:start class|start class]] article is a real shame.<br> |
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I put its disorganization, lack of concision, and many POV problems mostly down to editors' confusion about what the article should focus on. This confusion is, of course, common to many [[Wikipedia:broad-concept|broad-concept]] and academically challenging articles.<br> |
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In my opinion, separation of powers is best described as a (multi-faceted) normative proposal about how to organize political power in political philosophy discourse and in constitution-making; and the application side of this principle is primarily a matter of [[constitutional theory]] and law.<br> |
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Yet, in the article, there is an enormous amount of (unsystematic) content pertaining to individual countries' branches of government (belonging, I think, to the academic discipline of descriptive political science; [[comparative government]], specifically). I have just proposed that these sections be split off into an article called 'branches of government' (or similar). |
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If you would like to see a rigorous approach to political philosophy concepts like 'separation of powers', I am convinced that adopting my proposal is the crucial first step. But I wish to hear your perspectives; my perspective may be too close, or I may not be considering all the options. |
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Is [[:Category:Physical paradoxes]] correctly classified as being "within the scope of '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Philosophy|WikiProject Philosophy]]'''"? The [[Talk:Physical paradox|talk page]] of the article [[Physical paradox]] gives it as of interest to solely [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics|WikiProject Physics]]. --[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 06:53, 5 June 2024 (UTC) |
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== Page [[Philosophy of geography]] needs some attention. == |
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The page [[Philosophy of geography]] is tremendously lacking. I'm a geographer and mostly work in geography related projects, but I thought it could be worthwhile to post here as well. Currently, the page only goes back to the 1930s, and is mostly focused on Western/English/American traditions. I'm digging into the literature a bit to work on this, but it's a bit daunting with how much work I think it needs. Anyone with broad background in philosophy of science would be a welcome contributor! [[User:GeogSage|<span style="font-family:Blackadder ITC; color:grey">GeogSage</span>]] <sup> ([[User talk:GeogSage|<span style="font-family:Blackadder ITC; color:grey">⚔Chat?⚔</span>]]) </sup> 20:19, 20 June 2024 (UTC) |
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==Ethics in the Bible== |
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I have proposed a change to [[Ethics in the Bible]] on its talk page involving restructuring the article topically to produce a more neutral pov and better content. I am looking for consensus on improving what everyone agrees is a poor quality article. Please [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ethics_in_the_Bible#Structure| come and comment].[[User:Jenhawk777|Jenhawk777]] ([[User talk:Jenhawk777|talk]]) 17:03, 23 July 2018 (UTC) |
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Carnap
Need to find a free image of Rudolf Carnap. Where is this one from? Cake (talk) 17:52, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- If here is to be believed, it is under copyright :( Shapeyness (talk) 12:53, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, at least it's only until 2026 for some of them... Psychastes (talk) 20:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Psychastes: how did you figure out 2026? Shapeyness (talk) 09:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Not necessarily that specific picture (though I suspect it's one of the earlier ones), but the pictures in that archive are dated "1932,1930,1935" so some of them (and yes, I suppose we'd have to do additional research to figure out which ones...) will enter the public domain in the US in 2026, or 95 years after creation. Psychastes (talk) 17:11, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Well shoot. Nice try and nice find though. Cake (talk) 11:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- @MisterCake, Psychastes: I happened to be looking in the same place again and there is this one. I believe the back of the photo is shown here dated 1922, not sure how to fully verify that though. Shapeyness (talk) 20:16, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- It does appear that way. He looks a bit like Randall Rauser there. If you are at all seasoned with Austrian sources I'd love to know one other than Dummett's for Austria and Analytic philosophy. Seeing Ramsey there too is nice. Cake (talk) 02:46, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, not at all seasoned with Austrian realism sadly. Shapeyness (talk) 17:18, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- It does appear that way. He looks a bit like Randall Rauser there. If you are at all seasoned with Austrian sources I'd love to know one other than Dummett's for Austria and Analytic philosophy. Seeing Ramsey there too is nice. Cake (talk) 02:46, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- @MisterCake, Psychastes: I happened to be looking in the same place again and there is this one. I believe the back of the photo is shown here dated 1922, not sure how to fully verify that though. Shapeyness (talk) 20:16, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well shoot. Nice try and nice find though. Cake (talk) 11:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Not necessarily that specific picture (though I suspect it's one of the earlier ones), but the pictures in that archive are dated "1932,1930,1935" so some of them (and yes, I suppose we'd have to do additional research to figure out which ones...) will enter the public domain in the US in 2026, or 95 years after creation. Psychastes (talk) 17:11, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Psychastes: how did you figure out 2026? Shapeyness (talk) 09:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, at least it's only until 2026 for some of them... Psychastes (talk) 20:57, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
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Request for input on political philosophy topic: Splitting 'separation of powers'
Dear friends—
Your input would be much appreciated at Talk:Separation of powers#Splitting off 'branches of government': The solution to finally advancing past 'start class'?, particularly if you think of yourself as a member of the social and political philosophy task force.
Separation of powers is a central concept in normative and descriptive political theory, and a widely-known concept among the general public, generally through participation in high school civics. As such, its perennial status as a start class article is a real shame.
I put its disorganization, lack of concision, and many POV problems mostly down to editors' confusion about what the article should focus on. This confusion is, of course, common to many broad-concept and academically challenging articles.
In my opinion, separation of powers is best described as a (multi-faceted) normative proposal about how to organize political power in political philosophy discourse and in constitution-making; and the application side of this principle is primarily a matter of constitutional theory and law.
Yet, in the article, there is an enormous amount of (unsystematic) content pertaining to individual countries' branches of government (belonging, I think, to the academic discipline of descriptive political science; comparative government, specifically). I have just proposed that these sections be split off into an article called 'branches of government' (or similar).
If you would like to see a rigorous approach to political philosophy concepts like 'separation of powers', I am convinced that adopting my proposal is the crucial first step. But I wish to hear your perspectives; my perspective may be too close, or I may not be considering all the options.
I thank you for your help. §§ LegFun §§ talk §§ 20:41, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
Physical paradoxes
Is Category:Physical paradoxes correctly classified as being "within the scope of WikiProject Philosophy"? The talk page of the article Physical paradox gives it as of interest to solely WikiProject Physics. --Lambiam 06:53, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
Page Philosophy of geography needs some attention.
The page Philosophy of geography is tremendously lacking. I'm a geographer and mostly work in geography related projects, but I thought it could be worthwhile to post here as well. Currently, the page only goes back to the 1930s, and is mostly focused on Western/English/American traditions. I'm digging into the literature a bit to work on this, but it's a bit daunting with how much work I think it needs. Anyone with broad background in philosophy of science would be a welcome contributor! GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 20:19, 20 June 2024 (UTC)