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|text = On [[Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2023/August#11 August 2023|11 August 2023]], '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know]]''' was updated with a fact from the article '''''[[Dolwyddelan Castle]]''''', which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ''... that after '''[[Dolwyddelan Castle]]''' ''(pictured)'' [[Conquest of Wales by Edward I|was captured]] in January 1283, its new garrison was equipped with [[Snow camouflage|winter camouflage]] of white material and stockings?'' The nomination discussion and review may be seen at [[Template:Did you know nominations/Dolwyddelan Castle]]. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>([[User:Rjanag/Pageview stats|here's how]], [https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2023-08-01&end=2023-08-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Dolwyddelan_Castle Dolwyddelan Castle])</small>, and the hook may be added to [[Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics/Monthly DYK pageview leaders|the statistics page]] after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the [[:Template talk:Did you know|Did you know talk page]]. |
|text = On [[Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2023/August#11 August 2023|11 August 2023]], '''[[:Template:Did you know|Did you know]]''' was updated with a fact from the article '''''[[Dolwyddelan Castle]]''''', which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ''... that after '''[[Dolwyddelan Castle]]''' ''(pictured)'' [[Conquest of Wales by Edward I|was captured]] in January 1283, its new garrison was equipped with [[Snow camouflage|winter camouflage]] of white material and stockings?'' The nomination discussion and review may be seen at [[Template:Did you know nominations/Dolwyddelan Castle]]. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page <small>([[User:Rjanag/Pageview stats|here's how]], [https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?start=2023-08-01&end=2023-08-21&project=en.wikipedia.org&pages=Dolwyddelan_Castle Dolwyddelan Castle])</small>, and the hook may be added to [[Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics/Monthly DYK pageview leaders|the statistics page]] after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the [[:Template talk:Did you know|Did you know talk page]]. |
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== County how to == |
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I seem to have decided to propose a rewrite of the county how to. If you want to go and have a look [[User:Chocolateediter/sandbox]], feel free. I'd also like you to ping anybody on the how to's talk that you think might be interested in either arguing or agreeing on the changes. I think I may have a lot of discussing to do. [[User:Chocolateediter|Chocolateediter]] ([[User talk:Chocolateediter|talk]]) 23:22, 19 August 2023 (UTC) |
Revision as of 23:22, 19 August 2023
No wood, no trees
You can encourage editors all you like but they cannot ride roughshod over Wikipedia conventions. I've been called names but I don't respond, and, to make it quite clear, I have never called any editor names. The adjectives I used today described what I read. Editors should not be "pinging" "friends" for support. That's all I have to say. Esemgee (talk) 22:58, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- You need to apologise to DragonofBatley for referring to their actions as 'despicable', their edits as 'dire' and 'dreadful', and rudely referring to them in the third person. That is not acceptable behaviour, regardless of whether or not your wider points are valid. A.D.Hope (talk) 23:04, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- Exactly a prime example @A.D.Hope of my earlier point "Using other talkpages to say things but not reply on the relevant section". DragonofBatley (talk) 23:29, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not a fan of this sort of thing being spread across several pages, I must admit. Now, I don't think anything else is going to be achieved by dragging the discussion on past midnight, so I'm going to call it a day! It'd be a good idea for everyone else to do the same, I reckon. A.D.Hope (talk) 23:33, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
- Exactly a prime example @A.D.Hope of my earlier point "Using other talkpages to say things but not reply on the relevant section". DragonofBatley (talk) 23:29, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
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County leads
Following the brief clash at my home county, while I did notice you have re-done county leads, I did not initally notice you were adding technically uncited information, not mentioned or cited in the body of the article itself, per WP:LEAD. (Although you've since added it to that article, thanks!) But an example of yours is Conwy County Borough where most of the lead is not actually in the article, with the article itself mainly on Welsh language and the Coat of Arms (unusually). If you are adding uncited info to leads, please add the cited information to the body. Of course Conwy was a few months ago, so you may have since corrected any practice, but maybe check past leads you have edited, please? Also while it may be nice to make leads consistent, in the end, they are supposed to represent the actual article itself, so if an article is small or of lesser quality, it probably needs a smaller lead.
I opted to message you rather than technically tagging such leads with {{Lead extra info}}. I believe your edits are in good faith and can be easily corrected by yourself, and thanks for taking the time to expand them overall, as well as your other great Wales-related edits.
Kind regards DankJae 18:29, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- Hey Jae!
- Firstly, I think it's important to say that I didn't think we clashed over Wrexham. I did sense that you were getting a bit frustrated, and I'm quite happy to back off, but I like to think we have a good relationship. I know I tend to be a BOLD editor, but I do try and balance that by being calm and objective about reversions or changes to those edits. If you cast your mind back to Snowdonia and the Brecon Beacons, I think that was a good example of us going through a few rounds of tweaking each other's edits and eventually coming up with something much better than it was before or which either of us would have produced alone.
- I think Conwy was one of the first county leads I did and it's definitely not my best. I will go through the other leads (at this point it's nearly all the English and half the Welsh) and check the sources, I can tell you without looking that there's unsourced info and you're right to bring me up on it. The county articles as a group are in a bit of a ropey state, and my original thinking (contrary to your own) was that giving them good leads would at least be a start toward correcting that, but of course that only works if they're properly sourced! A case of speed overtaking good editorial practice, I fear.
- Always happy to take criticism and advice from you Jae, thanks for commenting! A.D.Hope (talk) 19:00, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
brief clash
was a light-hearted generalisation of all the edits there, not just yours. Tbh I felt more confusion than frustration as to why there is suddenly a tea party in my local garden, but issues do stand out to me being the main author and a local, but I try to integrate/clean-up such edits and refrain from ownership as much as I can. But nothing wrong with that lead in particular.- Not fussed here by the dispute or the wording, open to discuss there, just that any lead kinda has to represent the article itself, but mainly the info is kinda uncited and want to alert you in case you plan to do more of them, especially on shorter articles. If there is any dispute though don't simply
back off
without a discussion, we can all be bold, and you can be correct if given more than a edit summary to explain if you wish, but bold editor + bold editor = discussion probably needed, especially on longer, more-viewed, older and higher quality articles, and if the lead itself was subject to consensus ofc. - I fully understand the good faith reasoning for the lead re-write, probably fell into that too once or twice, especially as a newbie, and I still correct many of my past mistakes, I at least now try to add citations to a non-repeating lead so another editor can easily take over and move it to the body.
- Also you done almost all the English ones? (are there like 50? or more; I do not understand English local government :D) That's dedication. :)
- Regards DankJae 20:52, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- Oh, I completely missed that you were beng light-hearted! All that happened with Wrexham is that DragonofBatley accidentally put Holt in the wrong place, I corrected it, and then suddenly we were all there. When I say I'm happy to back off all I mean is that I recognise you know more about the area and so are best-placed to tidy things up, particularly as there isn't any major dispute.
- You're absolutely right about the sourcing, and once I'm finished with Criccieth Castle I'll go back and fill in the gaps as best I can. Fingers crossed it shouldn't be too big a job, because if I recall correctly a lot of the info is sourced from the Britannica. If there are any disputes of course I'll stick around and talk them through.
- I have done a lot of the work on the English county leads, yeah, alongside Chocolateediter and DragonofBatley. It all started with Lancashire, because the lead was disproportionately focussed on the 1974 boundary changes and I really wanted to make it more balanced. Truth be told I'll be happy to take a break once the leads are in decent shape — I've been 'county guy' for a bit, but between the sheer number of them and the discussions about flags, collages, and infobox parameters it's turned into bit of a slog. A.D.Hope (talk) 22:42, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
Is this place a town or a village? 92.239.240.153 (talk) 22:52, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
- Is that you, DragonofBatley? A.D.Hope (talk) 23:40, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
Crooked House
Just a courtesy message to flag my edit summary here – agree with your comments re: squished content between images, but think the other image is a better one to keep. Happy to discuss if you feel strongly about it! MIDI (talk) 19:08, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
- I don't feel strongly about it in the slightest, but I appreciate the heads-up! Cheers, A.D.Hope (talk) 19:35, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
DYK for Dolwyddelan Castle
On 11 August 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Dolwyddelan Castle, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after Dolwyddelan Castle (pictured) was captured in January 1283, its new garrison was equipped with winter camouflage of white material and stockings? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Dolwyddelan Castle. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Dolwyddelan Castle), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
County how to
I seem to have decided to propose a rewrite of the county how to. If you want to go and have a look User:Chocolateediter/sandbox, feel free. I'd also like you to ping anybody on the how to's talk that you think might be interested in either arguing or agreeing on the changes. I think I may have a lot of discussing to do. Chocolateediter (talk) 23:22, 19 August 2023 (UTC)