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== Congrats == |
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Congratulations on getting the bit! A number of Wikipedians agree that the RfA process is due for an overhaul in order to make it less of a mugging and hence attract more candidates who are staying away. I hope that you will now consider [[Wikipedia talk:Requests for adminship|taking an active interest]] in the process that got you there, and help to stabilise the situation by coming along and offering some intelligent !votes on RfA debates. My thoughts on improvement are [[User:Kudpung/RfA criteria|here]], several others have their own ideas too, and a list of those is also on that page. Take care and happy sysoping! --[[User:Kudpung|Kudpung]] ([[User talk:Kudpung|talk]]) 07:12, 16 January 2011 (UTC) |
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WikiProject Feminism assessments
Thanks for working on the assessments! Nice to see the article numbers growing a bit. Kaldari (talk) 21:36, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
- No problem. I'd just finished up WikiProject Disability and had a little more energy. I'll probably finish up with feminism in a month or so, depending on when the assessment spirit moves me. --Danger (talk) 22:53, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
- Awesome. I've been periodically assessing a few myself whenever I have time. Kaldari (talk) 00:42, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
My questions
If you need any clarification on the ques, please feel free to ask. You're a good candidate; think carefully before answering the remaining questions. Best wishes. Wifione ....... Leave a message 17:23, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you! I'm fairly confused on the last of your questions. I can't find any claims about this worm at all. It can't exist, at least under that name, because Salonia is already a genus of brachiopod. Is the notable but not credible claim a hypothetical? --Danger (talk) 17:37, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- Being a new animal group, is considered notable per CSD standards.....A7 can be applied on notable but not credible claim articles.... As you've not found any search links, you believe that the article's claim is notable as per CSD standards, yet, not credible. And you place the A7. But what would the admin do in this case, is the question, once you've done the deed? Wifione ....... Leave a message 17:58, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, I understand. Sorry, what I do in real life makes this a confusing question. If it had been about a car or something... --Danger (talk) 18:00, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- You anyway have my support vote. So don't worry even if you get a wrong answer; although I'd not want you to get a wrong answer. See you and best. Wifione ....... Leave a message 18:02, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- And well done... Wifione ....... Leave a message 18:11, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- *blush* Why thank you.--Danger (talk) 18:13, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- The blush gave you away :) Anyway, just a quick heads up before I leave finally from stalking your page. The file Caduceus.svg that you're using on this page may perhaps not represent or have any connection with medicine. You perhaps might have find the Rod of Asclepius a better bet. Take care and hope you get your RfA through. Kind regards. Wifione ....... Leave a message 18:28, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- I know, I know. But I feel obligated to continue the American Medical Association's tradition of screwing up history, and also, the images for the rod aren't particularly attractive. --Danger (talk) 19:03, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- Sent you an email. Best. Wifione ....... Leave a message 12:09, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- I know, I know. But I feel obligated to continue the American Medical Association's tradition of screwing up history, and also, the images for the rod aren't particularly attractive. --Danger (talk) 19:03, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- The blush gave you away :) Anyway, just a quick heads up before I leave finally from stalking your page. The file Caduceus.svg that you're using on this page may perhaps not represent or have any connection with medicine. You perhaps might have find the Rod of Asclepius a better bet. Take care and hope you get your RfA through. Kind regards. Wifione ....... Leave a message 18:28, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- *blush* Why thank you.--Danger (talk) 18:13, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- And well done... Wifione ....... Leave a message 18:11, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- You anyway have my support vote. So don't worry even if you get a wrong answer; although I'd not want you to get a wrong answer. See you and best. Wifione ....... Leave a message 18:02, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, I understand. Sorry, what I do in real life makes this a confusing question. If it had been about a car or something... --Danger (talk) 18:00, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- Being a new animal group, is considered notable per CSD standards.....A7 can be applied on notable but not credible claim articles.... As you've not found any search links, you believe that the article's claim is notable as per CSD standards, yet, not credible. And you place the A7. But what would the admin do in this case, is the question, once you've done the deed? Wifione ....... Leave a message 17:58, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
RFA
Good luck in your RFA, hopefully you'll get these in 7 days anyway, but having gone through your contributions I've taken the liberty of setting the wp:reviewer and wp:Rollbacker flags for you. ϢereSpielChequers 20:19, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you. --Danger (talk) 23:07, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
A quick query...
I note that you have a chronic health problem. Without needing to know specifics, is it something that can affect your judgement, or is it something physical which prevents you editing? The latter isn't a problem with regard to your RfA, as admins don't need to be on Wikipedia all the time! If you feel the need to give more detail, you are free to email me in confidence. I'm still weighing up where I stand on your RfA, and this is something I would like to know, but I didn't want to put it as a question on the RfA. Please be assured that whatever your response, I will not use it as a reason to oppose - if I oppose, it will be for other reasons! - but it could decide whether I support or not! -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\[alternative account of Phantomsteve] 21:06, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
- It is something physical that prevents me editing as much as I like. In the unlikely event that I would be incommunicado due to my health, I would allow my parents access to my email and they can respond on my behalf (out of office notes or something). --Danger (talk) 01:14, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you! I will continue to consider my !vote, and hopefully put it on the RfA in a couple of days. Good luck with it! -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\[alternative account of Phantomsteve] 02:09, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
UChicago
I notice from your userpage that you attend (or once attended) the University of Chicago. Is it true what they say, does fun really come there to die? :) NW (Talk) 05:40, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- Yes. There's even an administrative break day in winter quarter known universally as "Suicide Prevention Day". Every spring though, we have an orgiastic release of all the stresses of the year that makes it all worthwhile. This is why I've never edited on Mother's Day weekend. --Danger (talk) 05:48, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- Ah ha! One of my friends from high school who attended there always mentioned Suicide Prevention Day, but I never had a clue what it was.
I'm sorry for you. So why did you choose to go? NW (Talk) 05:52, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- The good answer: I was undecided and MIT doesn't have a good gender studies program. The bad answer: I was a punk when I entered college and didn't see myself fitting in any of the other places I applied, but the tour guide I had at U(C) (that should be read as functional notation, ie "U of C") had pink hair. The true answer: I came here for Scav.
- It's a, er, special place. Not one I'd recommend for many people, but for a certain type of person it can be a good home. --Danger (talk) 05:58, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- Ah ha! One of my friends from high school who attended there always mentioned Suicide Prevention Day, but I never had a clue what it was.
Your RfA
Hi Danger. I just wanted to drop by and wish you good luck on your RfA. I had already supported before you answered questions 12-15, but if I hadn't, those answers would have sealed the deal. As Fastily said, you knocked those out of the park, and I hope you get the bit if only for my sake: I've got F8's that have been languishing for over a month, and an additional image-savvy admin clearing out that backlog would be a wonderful boon to the project. On a side note, I thought your request for gender-neutral pronouns was perfectly reasonable; I'm sure it must be irritating that a lot of folks aren't honoring it. I assume, though, that that's just due to lack of reading the "fine print" on a long RfA page rather than any intentional disrespect. Anyway, good luck! 28bytes (talk) 17:13, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- Over a month? Wikipedia servers being in Florida, you'd think the right to a speedy trial would come into play! I would be glad to bring in a shovel on that backlog. And yes, the pronoun thing is extremely irritating, but I'm quite used to it at this point. C'est la vie, non? Thank you very much for your support, not just in the !vote sense.--Danger (talk) 17:19, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- You're welcome. And I'll try to restrain myself from oppose-badgering, I was just rather baffled at the 33% and "collegial editing" comments. But knowing RfA, I'm sure those won't be the only baffling comments I'll see, so I'll let others take up the case if they're inclined. 28bytes (talk) 18:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- I spent about an hour the other day attempting to calmly discuss the pictures on the ejaculation article. I am so frustrated. --Danger (talk) 18:14, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- You're welcome. And I'll try to restrain myself from oppose-badgering, I was just rather baffled at the 33% and "collegial editing" comments. But knowing RfA, I'm sure those won't be the only baffling comments I'll see, so I'll let others take up the case if they're inclined. 28bytes (talk) 18:08, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
The Signpost: 10 January 2011
- News and notes: Anniversary preparations, new Community fellow, brief news
- In the news: Anniversary coverage begins; Wikipedia as new layer of information authority; inclusionist project
- WikiProject report: Her Majesty's Waterways
- Features and admins: Featured topic of the year
- Arbitration report: World War II case comes to a close; ban appeal, motions, and more
- Technology report: Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News
No Worries
No worries mate. It makes for fascinating reading doesn't it? *shudder* -danjel (talk to me) 13:46, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)It's not that bad. Trust me, I've had worse. --Danger (talk) 14:06, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, and thanks for your 3rd opinion. I'm not sure if the IP is participating any more, but it's still welcome from my side. -danjel (talk to me) 14:02, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- You're welcome. With regards to the IP editor, they were blocked but that should wear off in a few hours. I personally hope that they continue to try to participate, but trying to add content and being blocked must be very frustrating. --Danger (talk) 14:06, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- I know. I'll take responsibility for having reported him/her. It got too frustrating to repeatedly have to point to WP:NPOV and beg for a bit of dialogue. I'm hoping that the block will prod him/her in the right direction. I took it as a pseudo block on myself as well and stayed away until this afternoon. *shrug* -danjel (talk to me) 14:19, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- I understand the frustration in dealing with new and somewhat misguided users. NPOV is a difficult concept to fully grasp, especially when one is new to Wikipedia when one is overwhelmed with our exciting rules and policies. Sometimes it can be helpful to distill the main applicable point along with a pointer to the full policy. In this discussion, you did that eventually, but it seems like emotions were already running high, which seems to be the cause of a lot of 3RR violations in my experience. Could have turned out better, but c'est la vie. I'm going to keep the article on my watchlist for a while and if you'd like any assistance with it (or anything else) give me a poke here. Best, Danger (talk) 15:55, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks
thanks gimme i wanted to insert a picture on wikipedia page HAL Ajeet i am still learning to do it but thanks any waytikki (talk) 17:04, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
- You're welcome. I also responded to your question at the help desk. Let me know if you need help with the instructions; I find them rather convoluted myself. --Danger (talk) 17:07, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
RfA !vote
Hi there; i just comment/!voted in your RfA, and i wanted to tell you that the fact i used "he" to refer to you is not intended as an insult, nor as a purposeful ignoring of your request for gender-neutral pronouns. It is simply that (like Humpty Dumpty) when i use words they mean what i choose them to mean, and it's my belief that "he", "him", and "his" can be gender neutral. I cannot bring myself to use the incorrect "they" nor the artificial "zir" or some other construct when there is a perfectly good word available. I hope i've not offended you! Cheers, LindsayHello 04:54, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well, as a matter of fact, yes, you have offended me. It is offensive and painful to be misgendered. Every comment I read calling me "this fellow" or referring to "his contributions" is like a kick in the gut. Having unpleasant things said about me hurts my feelings; being misgendered makes my insides twist. I honestly don't know how you expect me to respond to a post like this, which says, in essence, that your desire to use language that you are comfortable with supercedes your respect for me. But at least you took the time to read my request, so I suppose I ought be grateful for that.
- Otherwise, thank you for taking the time to comment on my RFA. Cheers, Danger (talk) 08:09, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- I am, sincerely, very sorry. Offense to a fellow editor is nothing i want to have been part of. Would that i could take it back, or that our language had an acceptable (to us both) gender-neutral set of pronouns. Friends? i hope. Cheers, LindsayHello 17:23, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
- Danger, I came to your talk page to commend your poise and conduct in your RFA - and to thank you for teaching me something interesting about image copyright as well. I have also noted that it seems both of us have attended the University of Chicago. Since I am here, I will join in the conversation that is already happening in the room. I respect your right to not disclose your gender; however, I think you have to accept that there are corresponding compromises. In particular, you thereby increase the chances that people will attribute a gender to you that you do not like, whether by inattention or ignorance of your preferences, or by being personally unwilling to massacre English grammar to satisfy your preferences. In my opinion, you are incorrect in saying Lindsay (and others) have offended you (active voice construct). The most you can say is that they have caused you to take offence (passive voice construct). On those occasions where I have taken momentary offence at remarks, either receiving an explanation that makes it clear that no offence was intended (as Lindsay has done in this case) or just thinking through that it is most likely there was no intent to offend, has quickly negated the offence! I'm not trying to badger you, but I'm assuming your objective function is to minimize pain to yourself and others, so I'm somewhat flatfootedly encouraging you to find internal solutions, since that will likely be more effective than depending on others' exceptional willingness to accomodate. Cheers, Martinp (talk) 05:34, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- Just a grammar note from a passerby... it is perfectly possible to be gender-neutral and not violate the rules of English grammar. I managed to do it at Danger's RfA, and if "singular they" is good enough for Shakespeare, it's good enough for me. 28bytes (talk) 06:09, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- Suffice it to say that when I am gendered incorrectly, I always assume inattention or ignorance on the part of the genderer. Annoying, but no offense. When someone explains to me that they intentionally misgendered me, that is offensive. As I said, it indicates that there is greater respect for prescriptivist grammar than there is for me. If the grammar gods really must be appeased, it's perfectly possible, as many !voters did, to simply refer to me without pronouns at all.
- Regarding supposed gender-neutrality, I've been working on this encyclopedia for 4.5 years. In that time, the only time someone has gendered me female is when I was attacked on my user talk page for removing speedy deletion templates from feminism and portal:feminism. On Wikipedia, I am assumed to be a man until I'm assumed to be a bitch.
- Martin, thank you for reading and commenting on my RfA. I'm glad to see that you came out of U(C) alive. That gives me hope that it is possible. --Danger (talk) 10:06, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- Just a grammar note from a passerby... it is perfectly possible to be gender-neutral and not violate the rules of English grammar. I managed to do it at Danger's RfA, and if "singular they" is good enough for Shakespeare, it's good enough for me. 28bytes (talk) 06:09, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- I understand your frustration, but would suggest that you take things in your stride.
- My university, who then ended up employing me, pays peanuts to monkeys to do data entry at its HR department. As such, someone, at some stage, entered me with the label "Miss", and the sex "F". When it came time for me to work through things like practicum, I had to get a police check done, which the university organised for me, but every reference to me had MISS... Then my name, so... "MISS DANIEL"... OK, Daniel, Daniell, Danielle, right? My middle name... MISS DANIEL RUSSELL... Know what the female equivalent to Russell is? Neither do I.
- When all of this was done, I was going through exams and a messy break up... So I was somewhat... Bearded. And I looked like I had been sleeping in gutters (my college, or dorm, was almost a gutter, so yeah). So, after arguing for however long, when the lady on the phone just didn't believe that the computer was wrong and that I was male, I thought that if I dropped around HR, surely she would. No. Apparently Miss's can have beards. Half an hour of frustration later, I go talk to the HR manager, who I finally get to write up my police check documents with MR instead.
- The good news is that I am apparently still female according to certain systems at HR. So. I started working at uni shortly thereafter, and when maternity leave provisions changed a while back, I was informed of the wonderful and generous (relative to the rest of the industry) range of fully paid leave options available to me whenever I choose to fall pregnant. So long as I get medical certificates made out to Ms. then my surname... I should be right. Point of the story, people are stupid, laugh more. :) -danjel (talk to me) 12:29, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- Strides taken. Many many strides. I wish I could take strides in real life the way I do on the internet. (disability joke) :-) I'm probably coming off as a lot more upset than I am. Honestly, I deal with so much
bullshitaggravation in real lifeand on the 'pediathat the gendering barely phases me. It's just rare that someone wants to discuss it with me, so I'm savoring the opportunity, probably much more than I should. --Danger (talk) 12:44, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- Strides taken. Many many strides. I wish I could take strides in real life the way I do on the internet. (disability joke) :-) I'm probably coming off as a lot more upset than I am. Honestly, I deal with so much
- The good news is that I am apparently still female according to certain systems at HR. So. I started working at uni shortly thereafter, and when maternity leave provisions changed a while back, I was informed of the wonderful and generous (relative to the rest of the industry) range of fully paid leave options available to me whenever I choose to fall pregnant. So long as I get medical certificates made out to Ms. then my surname... I should be right. Point of the story, people are stupid, laugh more. :) -danjel (talk to me) 12:29, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
- All good. :) Take it easy. -danjel (talk to me) 12:58, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
You are now an administrator
Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at the administrators' how-to guide and the administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, the practice exercises at the new admin school may be useful. If you have any questions, get in touch on my talk page. WJBscribe (talk) 10:40, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- As the first person here, let me give you your new admin gift; a hip-flask! You'll need it. Seriously though, welcome to the Corps. Ironholds (talk) 10:43, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Is it considered dignified to have chocolate liqueur in the flask?--Danger (talk) 13:41, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Have your robes arrived in the post yet? Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 10:46, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Not sure, are they blue? Or were those the robes for the cult of Main Page Deletion? --Danger (talk) 13:41, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Have your robes arrived in the post yet? Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 10:46, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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- Congratulations! Sorry I wasn't able to support your RFA, but now that you've made it through, I'm sure you'll work hard to do a great job. See you at the next Cabal meeting. ;) --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:29, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'll bring cupcakes.--Danger (talk) 13:41, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well done mate! :) Orphan Wiki 12:57, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Why thank you! --Danger (talk) 13:41, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Well done mate! :) Orphan Wiki 12:57, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
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- Congratulations on your new job! Reaper Eternal (talk) 18:01, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Congratulations! It's about time :) Kaldari (talk) 19:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Congrats :) --Ϫ 21:40, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Congratulations! It's about time :) Kaldari (talk) 19:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- Congratulations on your new job! Reaper Eternal (talk) 18:01, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Happy 10th!
--Perseus, Son of Zeus 18:58, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not fond of whiskey, but a White Russian will certainly be had in honor of the Wikiversary. --Danger (talk) 20:09, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Ctjf83 RfA
You posted the same diff twice. 28bytes (talk) 04:41, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you! I feel like an idiot, but at least I look like a little less of one.--Danger (talk) 04:45, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Congrats
Congratulations on getting the bit! A number of Wikipedians agree that the RfA process is due for an overhaul in order to make it less of a mugging and hence attract more candidates who are staying away. I hope that you will now consider taking an active interest in the process that got you there, and help to stabilise the situation by coming along and offering some intelligent !votes on RfA debates. My thoughts on improvement are here, several others have their own ideas too, and a list of those is also on that page. Take care and happy sysoping! --Kudpung (talk) 07:12, 16 January 2011 (UTC)