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Use of American English?
Hello, I have just became an extended-protected editor, and I am wondering why this article is supposed to be written with American English? This subject is on a European conflict, and mainly has to do with Europeans. I think this should be changed. Antny08 (talk) 22:51, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a “European English”? I guess the EU uses British English for historical reasons, but Ukraine also has cultural ties to its North American diaspora and a friendly diplomatic relationship with the USA and Canada. I don’t see a strong current reason to change it for this article, but won’t oppose. —MichaelZ.03:37, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Europeans use both American English and British English. I am a European and like to use American English. 69% of students mixed American English and British English in the study “Refined” or “Relaxed” English Pronunciation: Usage and Attitudes among Swedish University Students by Axelsson, Margareta Westergren (2002). Bevidsthed (talk) 23:02, 3 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That makes sense. In my experience much of Europeans’ first-hand experience of English has been in connection with the UK, but with globalization and online media there is much more access and exposure to other varieties of the language.
When I wrote “the EU uses British English” I only meant when the EU administration produces official documents, since English became an official EU language when the UK was part of the EU. I believe there is an EU style manual, and I think it would conform to British conventions. Ukraine is in the EU accession process, so this may become more relevant over time. —MichaelZ.03:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Euro English is actually a surprisingly complex phenomenon. Some time ago I met a pair of Swedish best friends. One sounded uncannily like an American; the other not only spoke in a hybrid of RP and high-register AAVE, but used very British constructions like “I’ve not…” So yeah, that sort of thing is par for the course.
However…
My soft-imperialist American brain wants to believe that Eastern Slavic countries tend to use AmE by default. At least this is what I’ve experienced (a lot of Russians, and some Ukrainians, have an almost Texan accent or at least drop final g’s).
Obviously it doesn’t go to the level of ties, but I actually don’t like the fact that several RUSUKR pages are supposedly BrE, especially as editors don’t conform to it anyway. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 14:02, 4 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]