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For your contributions to bring Medal of Honor (estimated annual readership: 814,448) to Good Article status, I hereby present you the Half Million Award. Congratulations, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers! -- Bobnorwal (talk) 13:04, 14 May 2015 (UTC) |
- I know this little award might be long overdue, but hopefully it still shows that the Wikipedia community appreciates what you and a few other editors did to improve the quality of this important article. Thanks! Bobnorwal (talk) 13:04, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
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Use of ibid in citations
Hi Foxtrot5151. I noticed that in your edits on Billy Mitchell, you used the term ibid in some of the citations. Since ibid is totally dependent on the content of the immediately preceding citation, and any editor could make a change that disrupts that connection by inserting an intervening citation or moving text around, it (and also any other of the Latin citation abbreviations) should not be used. Could you convert those to proper Wikipedia citation format? Indyguy (talk) 17:35, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
Nominations before the Senate Armed Services Commitee, Second Session, 106th Congress
Been meaning to ask this for some time. Usually, sourcing for dates of rank of four-star military officers is easy, as they often appear in news articles of their promotions, videos of their promotion ceremonies, or appendices in their Senate Armed Services Committee nomination hearing documents. The latter are digitized. However, a particular one is missing from the GovInfo archives: the one for the second session of the 106th Congress.
This document stands out as all the other ones (including the 106th's first session) during this period have been digitized. This document contains the dates of rank of GEN Tommy R. Franks, GEN William F. Kernan and LTG Robert B. Flowers, among others, which will prove useful for List of United States Army lieutenant generals from 1990 to 1999, List of United States Army lieutenant generals from 2000 to 2009 and List of United States Army four-star generals. The Army four-star generals page has Kernan sitting pretty without a specific rank date (currently stuck at July 2000) since its creation.
My question is, do you happen to have that PDF in your research archive anywhere that I can use? If not, do you have tips on who to contact and how an email to them should look like, especially if it's the NARA legislative archive that you've contacted before? SuperWIKI (talk) 04:59, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
- Sure, I think it's S. 106-985? I didn't find it in govinfo either, but it came up on Google here: https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=4s8zAAAAIAAJ&source=gbs_book_other_versions. Is that it? It's also coming up on ProQuest Congressional, which a lot of libraries have access to. Foxtrot5151 (talk) 16:14, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
Officer Military Personnel Records
Do you have any past experience requesting non-publicly available service records/General Officer Management Office (GOMO) biographies? The reason why I ask is because some officers in this list, among others, don't have a specific date of rank (DOR). Still can't find the DORs of Alexander Haig, Sam S. Walker and William F. Kernan (even after searching S. 106-985). So far, I've tried requesting the GOMO biographies of these officers from the U.S. Army Center of Military History at Fort McNair but haven't got anything back yet for the past week. Doesn't help that the trio, among others I'm looking for, retired after 1960.
May I have some tips on how to request DORs, seeing as requesting details from the National Personnel Records Center looks very painful? This includes, especially if you got Doolittle's records from the NPRC, what the NPRC email is (they don't seem to have a publicly-listed one since 2011), how to format an email asking for DORs as a Wikipedian (highly specific and unusual for them, I assume) and other tips from your past experience. SuperWIKI (talk) 05:53, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
- I don't have any secret for access, but I did happen to run across a huge grouping on Haig's retirement because it was a mess. That may well include his date of rank. You'll find the entire thing digitized by the Ford Library here: https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0019/4520749.pdf Foxtrot5151 (talk) 21:37, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
- Wow. What was initially a simple search for Haig's DOR (among others) led me down a rabbit hole that I may or may not need clarification on.
- Firstly, on the DOR. Pages 11 and 30 of the document you sent me states that "Alexander M. Haig Jr., returned on 4 January 1973, to the Army staff, having been assigned on that date as Vice Chief of Staff of the Army". Given how many documents are unnecessarily wishy-wishy on terminology, it's fairly safe to assume that Haig's four-star DOR is also 4 January 1973. Additionally, his career track seems to be clear here as well:
- Promoted to four-star general on 4 January 1973, concurrent with assignment as Army vice chief until 4 May 1973
- Reassigned as White House chief of staff while on active list from 4 May 1973 to 31 July 1973 (non-civilian)
- Retired on 31 July 1973 with retirement date of 1 August 1973
- Served as civilian (White House chief of staff) until 21 September 1974
- The rabbit hole is when he actually started as vice chief of staff. We can go with the usual guess of 4 January, but we have two separate sources saying he become VCSA in September or October 1972 (page 27), the latter coming from an oral interview with Haig himself. And if that wasn't enough, we have the VCSA Wikipedia page claiming he started on 1 February 1973. These dates are confusing, especially since I can't find a definitive list of VCSAs (they focus too much on the CSA). SuperWIKI (talk) 02:01, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
- The NPRC records for Doolittle were digitized under a special program--it only applies to celebrities. I checked, and Haig wasn't important enough to qualify, unfortunately. Foxtrot5151 (talk) 21:39, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
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