- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep Sufficient coverage in third-party sources. Esprit15d • talk • contribs 16:31, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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This chat program does not appear to be notable from references in the article. Miami33139 (talk) 06:40, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- keep has a huge number of google hits. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:00, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:GOOGLEHITS should include this as an example. Miami33139 (talk) 07:46, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Keep
Keepper significant coverage in published works as seen via Google Books. [1] IMO this AfD nomination is highly disruptive, especially as the nominator is aware of the large amount of coverage that has been given to this software. Ircle is effectively the Macintosh equivalent of mIRC and has been around for a very long time. --Tothwolf (talk) 07:59, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]- ...and here is yet more coverage in another book which is not indexed by Google Books:
Charalabidis, Alex (1999-12-15). "IRCing On The Macintosh: Ircle". The Book of IRC: The Ultimate Guide to Internet Relay Chat (1st ed.). San Francisco, California: No Starch Press. pp. 58–61. ISBN 1-886411-29-8.
It really doesn't seem as though the deletion policy and WP:BEFORE are being followed by the nominator. --Tothwolf (talk) 08:19, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Since I already have my copy of this book pulled from the shelf, I'll quote what the author wrote as part of the intro for the section that covers Ircle: "Ircle is the godfather of Mac IRC clients. It has been around the longest and has the most features, making it the de facto gold standard against which all other clients compare themselves. Since the mid-1990s a new author, Onno Tijdgat, has completely rewritten and redesigned it." --Tothwolf (talk) 08:30, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- ...and here is yet more coverage in another book which is not indexed by Google Books:
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- Speedy Keep Per sources mentioned above. - EdoDodo talk 02:22, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. What sources? It needs better. JBsupreme (talk) ✄ ✄ ✄ 07:45, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- What sources? Google Books alone finds more than 400 books which mention Ircle. - EdoDodo talk 12:48, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- A little over 450 results with the restricted search string I used: Ircle IRC OR "Internet Relay Chat" There is certainly more than enough there, including the book I directly quoted from above which give more than just a "passing mention" to Ircle. --Tothwolf (talk) 16:00, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- What sources? Google Books alone finds more than 400 books which mention Ircle. - EdoDodo talk 12:48, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong Keep There appears to be plenty of coverage for this software. Although the articles does clearly need to improve its references, it does not justify removal. --Hm2k (talk) 16:50, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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