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The result was keep. -- Cirt (talk) 10:31, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Joe Hahn (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log • AfD statistics)
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Member of a notable music group who has not achieved his own notability outside of that group. While he has worked professionally outside of the group, taken on its own it is not enough to pass WP:MUSICBIO or WP:GNG. TheJazzDalek (talk) 13:41, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. —TheJazzDalek (talk) 13:43, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy redirect to Linkin Park. Erpert (let's talk about it) 17:49, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- In my experience, redirects of this group's members' articles are promptly reverted until there's been an AFD. TheJazzDalek (talk) 18:34, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- If that's the case, school them on WP:EW. Erpert (let's talk about it) 19:57, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- It takes two to edit war! ;) Zagalejo^^^ 08:45, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- If that's the case, school them on WP:EW. Erpert (let's talk about it) 19:57, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- In my experience, redirects of this group's members' articles are promptly reverted until there's been an AFD. TheJazzDalek (talk) 18:34, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Seems to pass the GNG. There's this, this, this, and this. He also has a profile here. And if this article is correct, he was on the cover of KoreAm Journal in 2003. (Can anyone confirm?) The page does need some serious cleanup; I'll try to do some of that soon. Zagalejo^^^ 08:45, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Every instance is "Linkin Park DJ..." and in many cases it's about his aspirations to work in film, not about something he's actually done. In the 2nd link, despite the headline, less than a quarter of the article is about Hahn directing, and even then most of that is about a music video he directed for the band. Any of those links would be a great reference to add to the Linkin Park article but I don't see that it shows Hahn's notability outside of the group. TheJazzDalek (talk) 10:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, his short film The Seed is a finished product. You can watch it online. But anyway, I don't see why he has to have notability outside of the band, as long as we have enough to say about him. Details about his early years and education (such as those available here and elsewhere) are difficult to incorporate into an article on the band. Factoring in the info on his short film work, toy designs, and Hollywood aspirations, I think an independent article, even if it's only a couple of paragraphs, may be the best route here. Zagalejo^^^ 03:18, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Every instance is "Linkin Park DJ..." and in many cases it's about his aspirations to work in film, not about something he's actually done. In the 2nd link, despite the headline, less than a quarter of the article is about Hahn directing, and even then most of that is about a music video he directed for the band. Any of those links would be a great reference to add to the Linkin Park article but I don't see that it shows Hahn's notability outside of the group. TheJazzDalek (talk) 10:47, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 01:07, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep sources exist, per above. fetchcomms☛ 02:14, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This article has been nominated for rescue. SilverserenC 04:06, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I have tagged this article for rescue. SilverserenC 04:06, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Per Zagalejo's points above, it is quite obvious that he is notable independent of the band. He has accomplished enough outside deeds that are noted in the references. SilverserenC 04:06, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Plenty of coverage from MTV. Str8cash (talk) 05:38, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Keep I added his IMDB. I know some idiots will discredit IMDB, but he does have credits outside of the band. I also sourced that he has directed videos for bands other than Linkin Park. He also has appeared in multiple bands--side project bands that themselves have been successful and notable, another passage of WP:MUSICBIO. This is a no-brainer.Trackinfo (talk) 20:45, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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