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The result was keep. King Jakob C2 21:04, 2 March 2013 (UTC) (Non-admin closure)[reply]
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This competition/prize/cash award is not the subject of in-depth coverage by unrelated, reliable parties. I found some news coverage obviously based on press announcements by Prix Pictet itself especially for its first event (example: 300 participants signed up!); virtually nothing by any journalist has actually reported in-depth on the history, process, or import of the award (example: reporting on individual competitors in a human interest story based on nationality). Most of what I found was written by or about associated persons, including Kofi Annan. Despite that person's prestige and involvement in gaining some press mention, I am positive this subject WP:INHERITs nothing. This article is the PR project of a WP:COI editor whose job is ostensibly to promote things connected to Candlestar (Candlestar (talk · contribs)), a major association behind the Prix Pictet. Were this a major award, such blatant promotion would not have been necessary. JFHJr (㊟) 18:58, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete this WP:PROMO per nom. Qworty (talk) 21:36, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Photography-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:07, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. The nomination says: Were this a major award, such blatant promotion would not have been necessary. This implies that blatant promotion was necessary. But it was not necessary. ¶ Yes, I'm sure the nominator is right in that virtually nothing by any journalist has actually reported in depth on the history, process, and import of the award. That would probably be for various reasons, among them that very few journalists are much interested in photography (other than photos of celebs, photos by celebs, or the very occasional photo that causes a bit of a fuss (that "goes viral", in current jargon). ¶ So? Prix Pictet gets a lot of hits in Google News. True, most are unimpressive. Well, that's newspapers for you. But this article in the Guardian says: The Prix Pictet is possibly the world's greatest photography prize. In just four years it has become like an Oscar or Nobel prize for stills photographers (my emphases). The same article goes on to discuss a number of the shortlisted photographers. Daniel Beltra and Philippe Chancel may not be so very well known, but Luc Delahaye was in Magnum until he had a change of mind and left, Carl de Keyzer is in Magnum, and Robert Adams and Joel Sternfeld are about as starry as photographers can be. Ergo, its nomination system attracts not just Lightstalkers/Flickr hopefuls, but what you might call "heavyweights". No offence to the nominator, but if Adams, de Keyzer et al think that the award is worth their time, I'd say it's probably worth WP readers' attention. ¶ Elsewhere in the Guardian this year, Sean O'Hagan thought that the prize was sufficiently interesting to merit (i) an article about those who were shortlisted (4 July) and later (ii) an article about the winner (9 October). ¶ So, yes, a crap article but a worthwhile subject; keep the article and have it improved. -- Hoary (talk) 13:47, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per the sources found by Hoary, and for the fact that Kofi Annan wrote the foreword to the first volume in 2009, and because Michelle Bogre wrote "The Prix Pictet, a leading prize in photography and sustainability, was established in 2008..." in her book Photography as Activism: Images for Social Change, Taylor & Francis, ISBN 0240812751. Also, Charlotte Appleyard and James Salzmann wrote in Corporate Art Collections: A Handbook to Corporate Buying about the "Prix Pictet, a renowned global prize for photography... Despite being relatively young, the Prix Pictet has already gained a serious reputation (former United National SecretaryGeneral Kofi Annan sits as honorary president) and the purse is an especially generous one, worth CHF100,000 (£70,000)." I should think the topic is very much worth keeping, and the article worth improving. Binksternet (talk) 05:19, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per Binksternet, seems to have received a lot of coverage. --Cerebellum (talk) 13:10, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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