- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. MBisanz talk 03:11, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Rob Capriccioso
- Rob Capriccioso (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
Article is BLP describing relatively unknown person, lacks obvious claims to notability, and provides no reliable sources for the claims it does make. Article includes numerous links to subject's website, otherwise is exclusively original research. Earlier this month I looked for appropriate citations and came up empty. Prod rejected by article creator, asked creator to provide sources, but none have been forthcoming. Recommend delete on grounds of lack of notability and verifiability. --Ten Thousand Bullets (talk) 15:47, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Regarding your desire to delete this entry, the subject has been recognized by members of Congress and his work has been read into the Congressional record, which, according to National Press Club research, is noteworthy and unique. References backing up these facts and others in the article are provided as links within the article. Further, according to the Native American Journalists Association, there are very few Native Americans working in the press today. The subject's inclusion is warranted based on merit and the sheer uniqueness of being a recognized Native journalist who has worked for both mainstream and Native-focused outlets. In short, the subject qualifies under Wikipedia:Notability_(people) because: The person has received a notable award or honor, or has been often nominated for them; The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field. Additionally, several journalistic outlets for which the subject has written have run his birthplace and tribal enrollment. Their fact-checking must be considered to fit the conditions of reliable, secondary sources. Dcwash (talk) 17:17, 26 November 2008 (UTC)dcwash[reply]
- Dcwash is the creator referred to above, and we've discussed some of these things on Dcwash's talk page and on my own. (I also let Dcwash know I was making this recommendation.) Dcwash asserts that these sources exist but has not provided references for them, casting doubt on their existence. Even if these details could be confirmed, the subject still has not been the subject of any independent studies or news coverage, and both are reasons for my eventual nomination for deletion. Ten Thousand Bullets (talk) 17:35, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete – Sorry, just not there yet. Was able to find only 6 sources, of the 6, only three are independent of Mr. Capriccioso, and I’m not sure Mr. Caproccoso would want those pieces included, as shown here [1]. Thanks ShoesssS Talk 17:56, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Do not delete - based on above rationale ("Regarding your desire to delete this entry, the subject has been recognized by members of Congress and his work has been read into the Congressional record [linked to in the article], which, according to National Press Club research, is noteworthy and unique. References backing up these facts and others in the article are provided as links within the article. Further, according to the Native American Journalists Association, there are very few Native Americans working in the press today. The subject's inclusion is warranted based on merit and the sheer uniqueness of being a recognized Native journalist who has worked for both mainstream and Native-focused outlets. In short, the subject qualifies under Wikipedia:Notability_(people) because: The person has received a notable award or honor, or has been often nominated for them; The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field. Additionally, several journalistic outlets for which the subject has written have run his birthplace and tribal enrollment. Their fact-checking must be considered to fit the conditions of reliable, secondary sources.") More sources here, including an interview with Bolivian President Evo Morales. Dcwash (talk) 19:28, 26 November 2008 (UTC)dcwash[reply]
- Comment - Hello Dcwash, I reviewed links – additional sources and did some supplementary research and still believe Mr. Capriccioso falls short of inclusion at this time. Addressing your major contentions, the first being that members of Congress have recognized Mr. Capriccioso and his work has been read into the Congressional record, is somewhat misleading. An article that Mr. Capriccioso wrote was cited, one sentence, by Mr. Stacy Dixon in testimony BEFORE THE SENATE COMMITTEE ON INDIAN AFFAIRS and Mr. Capriccioso was addressed in a footnote as the author. Regarding his writings for the New York Post, I cannot seem to locate them in any of my searches. In fact, the only independent – verifiable – creditable sources I was able to find are the three I addressed in my earlier opinion. Hope this helps explain my reasoning. Good luck to you and Happy Thanksgiving. ShoesssS Talk 20:19, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SoWhy 08:59, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I don't see these being significant enough reliable sources to make him notable; and I can't imagine how he could be the recipient of a notable award etc. Moreover, consider that being in the Congressional Record isn't enough: if a senator is filibustering, he could read the telephone book, thus putting potentially thousands of people into the Congressional Record, but it wouldn't make them notable. Nyttend (talk) 14:47, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Do not delete - Awards from minority journalists associations are notable. And re: Nyttend's criticism, it was not a name from a phone book read into the Congressional record, but the work of the journalist, as I have reviewed the situation. I have not seen that from many other journalists, minority or not. Torrenceg (talk) 20:09, 2 December 2008 (UTC)torrenceg[reply]
- Delete Fails to meet notability requirements. Is it just me or do the postings of User:Torrenceg and User:Dcwash seem eerily similar? L0b0t (talk) 20:56, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.