- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. MBisanz talk 04:55, 7 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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- Ronnie Radke (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)
I have nominated this page because the subject fails notability, and it lacks a single source. Thank you. Yachtsman1 (talk) 04:31, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- How is he not notable?, he was the lead singer for a popular band, Fair enough there arent many sources but I still think the page can be worked out without need for deletion --Casket56 (talk) 04:40, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- How is he notable, Casket? Notability must be established, and the easiest way is by sources. This article has none of these, and as it stands it fails on notability. It also has the appearance of a fan site, which is inappropriate on Wikipedia as failing to provide a neutral point of view.Yachtsman1 (talk) 04:47, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yachtsman1, I understand that this page is looking pretty dull, and also, he hasn't worked with any other bands and has no plan of in the future due to his jail thing, He is a notable musician, but only because he is a former vocalist, other than that he is not notable for anything else, So I get what you mean when you find the article is not necessary, I approve of the deletion, thanks for clearing things up for me --Casket56 (talk) 11:22, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- How is he notable, Casket? Notability must be established, and the easiest way is by sources. This article has none of these, and as it stands it fails on notability. It also has the appearance of a fan site, which is inappropriate on Wikipedia as failing to provide a neutral point of view.Yachtsman1 (talk) 04:47, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, notability outside of the band is not established. Fails WP:BIO & WP:MUSIC. Esradekan Gibb "Talk" 04:57, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Same goes for Craig Mabbitt & Robert Ortiz. The sources on their pages do more for the band notability than their own. Esradekan Gibb "Talk" 05:00, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Go ahead and nominate them--I'm with you. Drmies (talk) 05:29, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm gonna have to admit I wouldn't have the first clue how too. Esradekan Gibb "Talk" 12:03, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Not much to talk about here--fanpage without sources, without even a claim to notability. Drmies (talk) 05:27, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- If deleted, may I suggest a recreation as redirect to Escape the Fate, so that people searching for this musician are led to information on the band he was a part of? No stance on actual deletion. -- saberwyn 05:48, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. I think this article would be great if people would post serious topics to it and not insulting remarks. Supposedly Ronnie Radke hopes to form a band when he is released from jail, so there is a possibility his page could still be relevant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whtdrkrbbt (talk • contribs) 12:14, Dec 2, 2008
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 06:39, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 06:39, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Non-notable "artist" who does not pass WP:MUSIC. News references are regarding his criminal charges, which, while reliable and multiple, fail WP:BLP1E since that is the only thing that gives him any notability at all. Regarding the above keep vote, if an when he becomes notable, no one will oppose the recreation of the article with proper sources. However, as per WP:CRYSTAL the fact that he may one day be relevant is never a reason to keep the article. Should be eliminated. Theseeker4 (talk) 19:35, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.