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- Arnold Namisi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails GNG. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 19:45, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: fails GNG, clearly created promotionally. AntiDionysius (talk) 20:11, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Few sources exist about Arnold Namisi, and none suggest he meets WP:GNG. The article reads like a paid ad and lacks encyclopedic merit. It also lacks third-party sources and thus fails to meet the platform's inclusion standards. AstridMitch (talk) 23:34, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete - Failed verification for sources provided, the other sources are either primary or circular. Clearly written promotionally. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 00:43, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Promotional, not notable, badly sourced, and so on. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 00:46, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Chuck Garcia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Promotional page for non-notable engineer and public speaker. I couldn't find any reliable sources via Google News or Newsbank Database (wider and deeper than Google). Fails WP:ANYBIO, WP:NPROF, WP:AUTHOR. Cabrils (talk) 00:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Notability not apparent yet. Xxanthippe (talk) 06:26, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. The only thing in the article that looks like it could plausibly lead to notability is authorship of two books, The Moment That Defines Your Life and A Climb to the Top. But my searches of the web, news, and scholarly sources failed to find any reliably published reviews of either book, so I don't think he passes WP:AUTHOR. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:43, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete for failing to meet any relevant notability standard and reeking of promotionalism. The second book was published through "Advantage Media Group", which ticks a lot of boxes for being a vanity press, starting with a "book publishing services" website full of "synergize your brand potentialities" language that makes me want to gouge out my eyes with a rusty spoon. Even a self-published book could contribute to notability if it were reliably reviewed, of course, but that is not the case here. Wikipedia is not LinkedIn. XOR'easter (talk) 22:19, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Eric Sink (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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A WP:BEFORE search failed to find any significant coverage of this biography article to meet WP:NBASIC. The most I could find were blog reviews of his books and interviews, which fail the threshold of significant independent sourcing. -1ctinus📝🗨 15:01, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: A few scattered mentions, but nothing extensive found: [1] and [2]. Not enough coverage for notability here. Oaktree b (talk) 15:51, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Claudio Fernando de Aguiar (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't meet WP:GNG and WP:NPOL. Promotional also. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 12:36, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. As a doctoral student he does not yet meet WP:PROF (how I found this AfD) and as a failed political candidate he does not meet WP:NPOL. We have no evidence of any other form of notability. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:30, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete His UN award helps, but it's not enough to establish notability on its own. Doesn't pass GNG. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 19:26, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Matt Firor (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Insufficiently sourced and doesn't appear notable, redirect to ZeniMax Online Studios? IgelRM (talk) 21:31, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Oliver Muoto (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Strictly promotional and non-notable Amigao (talk) 22:40, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Not notable. The WSJ source could possibly be OK (I could only read the first paragraph), but there must be multiple notability-contributing sources to establish WP:NBASIC. NicolausPrime (talk) 22:59, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Jon Hulburd (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Subject does not meet the WP:GNG and WP:NPOL as a unelected candidate for congress, who did not receive the requisite WP:SIGCOV outside of his failed campaign. Let'srun (talk) 14:17, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Judging by the article's use of the present tense, it was clearly written during the campaign (and judging by the non-neutral tone, possibly by someone connected to Hulburd). His campaign wasn't especially notable and he certainly doesn't seem to have gotten much news coverage since. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 19:28, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Michael Wallis-Brown (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article makes no claim to notability. Career section reads like a CV - moving from position to position - but does not outline any accomplishments in any of the roles, notable or otherwise. No significant coverage - the references are largely mentions in passing/regurgitated press releases. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 12:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify. The article has just been undeleted at the request of Ofalk88 (see WP:TH#page about Michael Wallis-Brown is deleted) Given the content of the original nomination, I doubt if they can show notability, but we should give them a chance to find sources. --ColinFine (talk) 13:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Just querying how that would work? Given that Ofalk88 has a conflict of interest, they should not edit the article themselves; certainly not to the extent of adding content that would presumably signify notability. Given the lack of sources found at the previous AfD or my own WP:BEFORE, I can't see anyone else adding much, either. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 14:31, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- There is no reason a declared paid editor with a declared CoI should not edit a draft. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:04, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed, this is one of the purposes of AfC. -- asilvering (talk) 19:32, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- There is no reason a declared paid editor with a declared CoI should not edit a draft. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:04, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Just querying how that would work? Given that Ofalk88 has a conflict of interest, they should not edit the article themselves; certainly not to the extent of adding content that would presumably signify notability. Given the lack of sources found at the previous AfD or my own WP:BEFORE, I can't see anyone else adding much, either. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 14:31, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete or draftify. The current version doesn't indicate what his claim to notability is. Maproom (talk) 16:07, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Not really any point in draftifying, particularly not at the request of a conflicted editor. I did a thorough WP:BEFORE search during New Page Review which resulted in the first AfD, and I found nothing to qualify this WP:MILL business executive for WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. I also reviewed all sources in this WP:REFBOMB and found no WP:SIGCOV in any of them; all coverage is WP:TRIVIALMENTIONs. Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:31, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Jeffrey Just (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:BASIC. References are trivial mentions; can't find anything else about him. Declined AfC draft that was moved to mainspace by the creator. Borderline A7. C F A 💬 23:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Searching for this individual yields very little on google. I don't see how this could ever be sourced so that it meets notability requirements. Garsh (talk) 01:05, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, the sources cited present nothing to indicate notability. Of all, only one mentioned the subject and that is even an interview which is not RS. Again search performed returned nothing. Ednabrenze (talk) 08:11, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Jeff boasts an extensive track record of features in prominent global companies. These include Triple Pundit, Community News Service, LLC, SOCO Partners, New York Post, METRO, North American Clean Energy, Forbes, Renewable Energy Magazine, Solar Power World, and PV Magazine. Please reconsider. ForHumanityIAm (talk) 20:48, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Abdulsalam Haykal (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails notability guidelines, and there are no reliable, independent sources to verify its notability. فيصل (talk) 16:57, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Mohammed bin Musallam bin Ham al-Ameri (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails notability guidelines, and there are no reliable, independent sources to verify its notability. فيصل (talk) 16:50, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep Notable as a member of the Federal National Council. Mccapra (talk) 21:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Saleh Al Abdooli (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails notability guidelines, and there are no reliable, independent sources to verify its notability. فيصل (talk) 16:29, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
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- George Harrison (executive) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails notability IgelRM (talk) 09:31, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - WP:PROMO - Five of the six sources are his own website, or otherwise interviews with him. A web search brings up Beatle George Harrison, but not this guy. The 2014 AFD on this (two keeps and one comment) failed for lack of response: . — Maile (talk) 14:45, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Harry M. Rubin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Upon review of article and its sources, the person in question does not meet the notability guidelines in question: the person is not (1) cited by 3rd party sources other than websites that repeat his bio as an official founder of Samuel Adams beer (2) known for originating a new concept [see point #1] (3) become a significant monument, etc. (4) He is not cited as by peers and 3rd party sources for the work that is well-known or significant. The article was written by a blocked user and could primarily serve the purpose of self promotion as defined in WP:NOTADVERT. P3D7AQ09M6 (talk)
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- Delete. This is just a CV. No notability. ApLundell (talk) 05:01, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- If deleted Harry Rubin (virologist) should be moved to the base name since Harry Rubin redirects here.--67.70.101.117 (talk) 23:48, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Folks, My apologies, I actually meant to nominate Harry Rubin (virologist) Late night editing got the best of me. Upon a 2nd look at this article in particular, I found new reputable secondary sources to that show indeed this Harry Rubin was indeed a Samuel Adams co-founder. I'm closing going to close this deletion nomination in favor of doing some work to improve the article itself. P3D7AQ09M6 (talk) 04:28, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe delete both of them.
- Being a minor, behind-the-scenes partner of a business does not make someone notable.
- ApLundell (talk) 05:57, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- In the spirit of WP:GD I'm going to suggest that we pursue a constructive alternative such as improving or cleaning up the article. Two main reasons (1) Being one of the Samuel Adams founders both within the beverage field and just generally is definitely a major contribution. It looks he was not the frontman, but, indeed, he's been recognized by multiple secondary sources as being a founder and his involvement in various beverage investments is notable enough to be topic of headlines. As you probably know, media outlets have full control over headlines, which means that these media outlets viewed his involvement as "the story". On a more basic level, Samuel Adams is also billion dollar major conglomerate, it's widely recognized, and is part of the American social milieu (2) I digged into other secondary sources and there's quite a few other significant achievements such as being one of the people who started GT Interactive, which launched DOOM (a major video game) (3) This nomination was a careless mistake on my part so it's kind of a fluke nomination. My apologies again to all for that bonehead error and for wasting folks time reviewing this!
- re: Harry Rubin (virologist) Even though I intended to nominate it, I also now lean towards keeping it. Mostly because his achievements within his specific domain are quite significant.
- If we deny this deletion nomination, I can take an action item to improve both pages.P3D7AQ09M6 (talk) 22:18, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: See also AFD'ed C. M. Rubin, his partner. IgelRM (talk) 08:36, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. We need to hear from more editors as the nominator states they didn't mean to nominate this article (so a withdrawal of sorts) but an editor is arguing for deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Edgar Chibaka (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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should be deleted due to the lack of significant independent coverage that meets the General Notability Guideline (GNG), relying instead on primary sources, company related news and not significant mentions. LusikSnusik (talk) 10:22, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep or redirect: to Nyasa Times, the company that the subject found. Subject has enough WP:GNG. For example here reported by the Telegraph, subject won the Black British Business Person of the Year award in 2021. I also found this where subject is being the founder and the Chief Executive Officer of Malawi's leading online publication, the Nyasa Times that he found in 2006. This could be used to sustain the article per (WP:NEXIST). --Tumbuka Arch (talk) 13:19, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete interviews are a poor way to establish notability and if he owns the Nyasa Times then it isn't independent enough to establish notability. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:42, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Traumnovelle Alternatively, it makes sense to redirect it to their company on Wikipedia that the subject found, thus Nyasa Times. Again, not all sources are interviews. Furthermore, this AfD was made by someone at random who was even reported at ANI here and there is even a discussion on their talk page about their nominations. Tumbuka Arch (talk) 07:30, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't oppose a redirect. I looked at the references now. I presumed the sources you mentioned were the strongest sources. The strongest source appears to be the Yorkshire Evening Post but it isn't enough for notability in my opinion. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:35, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Traumnovelle Alternatively, it makes sense to redirect it to their company on Wikipedia that the subject found, thus Nyasa Times. Again, not all sources are interviews. Furthermore, this AfD was made by someone at random who was even reported at ANI here and there is even a discussion on their talk page about their nominations. Tumbuka Arch (talk) 07:30, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Week keep. The Yorkshire Evening Post and Daily Telegraph profiles bring it just over the line of WP:SIGCOV in secondary, independent, reliable sources for a WP:GNG pass. I would oppose a redirect; I think the Nyasa Times may be less notable than its founder. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Familial relationships of Errol Musk (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Errol Musk is not in any way notable independent of his relation to Elon Musk. He ran for public office, but was never elected, but was only elected once to a local city council, he was an engineer, but didn't do anything of note. There is nothing about him is notable other than that he was the father of Elon Musk. Ergzay (talk) 01:46, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
He ran for public office, but was never elected
That's actually not correct, he was elected in '72 and served until the 80s. His 1983 resignation was front page news. Feoffer (talk) 05:20, 12 July 2024 (UTC)- Ah I missed that, but that was a local city council. None of the people in my city council have wikipedia pages. Ergzay (talk) 06:29, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well he wasn't "just any" councilman, he was a vocally anti-apartheid English-speaking South African politician in 1972 Pretoria! Per Isaacson and many others, that's actually a really big deal in his time and place, but damned if I can find really good English-language sourcing which actually deep-dives into that part of his life story. Feoffer (talk) 11:40, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- It could be great if there is a comparison on how vocal he was compared to the famous Helen Suzman. Sir Kenneth Kho (talk) 13:12, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Is there a wikipedia page on even the contents of that 1972 city council? Did that 1972 city council do anything of note? Ergzay (talk) 00:17, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well he wasn't "just any" councilman, he was a vocally anti-apartheid English-speaking South African politician in 1972 Pretoria! Per Isaacson and many others, that's actually a really big deal in his time and place, but damned if I can find really good English-language sourcing which actually deep-dives into that part of his life story. Feoffer (talk) 11:40, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ah I missed that, but that was a local city council. None of the people in my city council have wikipedia pages. Ergzay (talk) 06:29, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Errol Musk does not meet the notability guidelines despite his connection with Elon Musk. His career achievements and political work are not notable on their own. His main claim to fame is that he is the father of Elon Musk. It's crucial to adhere to WP:BLP, and keeping a separate article about only Musk's family does not meet these standards.--AstridMitch (talk) 02:14, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep*: He is an antiracist fighter AND elected representative AND father of Elon Musk - this 3 together is enough for a wikipedia page. 2A00:1110:143:1160:D1BF:A9E6:C3C3:862D (talk) 10:37, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Ridiculous to have an article about someone's "familial relationships" without giving him his own article. Astaire (talk) 02:38, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well, it's like when we do "Death of so-and-so" for notable deaths. It's a reminder to readers that the current article doesn't (yet) cover Errol's political career in the depth required of a true BLP. Feoffer (talk) 05:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- A familial relationships article for Elon Musk would be more sane, in which case Errol Musk could be mentioned there, though I'd think it should still be just part of the Elon Musk article. Ergzay (talk) 06:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well that's an excellent point. I definitely think of it as a Elon sub-article: we don't need to litigate emerald mines and spousal abuse and false claims of funding or abandonment on Elon's literal BLP. Feoffer (talk) 06:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't understand what you mean by "Elon sub-article". If it's not valuable enough to put on the page on Elon Musk then it's probably not valuable enough to put on any page on Wikipedia. I'm not sure on this last point, but I think "biography of living persons" policies apply even if it's a spin-off of the main article. That's not a loophole of the rule. Ergzay (talk) 00:26, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- From WP:BLP:
Ergzay (talk) 00:33, 13 July 2024 (UTC)BLP applies to all material about living persons anywhere on Wikipedia, including talk pages, edit summaries, user pages, images, categories, lists, article titles and drafts.
- BLP absolutely applies to ALL articles, I just meant we shouldn't be covering a notable abuser on one of their victim's biographical articles. Feoffer (talk) 14:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well that's an excellent point. I definitely think of it as a Elon sub-article: we don't need to litigate emerald mines and spousal abuse and false claims of funding or abandonment on Elon's literal BLP. Feoffer (talk) 06:52, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- A familial relationships article for Elon Musk would be more sane, in which case Errol Musk could be mentioned there, though I'd think it should still be just part of the Elon Musk article. Ergzay (talk) 06:30, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well, it's like when we do "Death of so-and-so" for notable deaths. It's a reminder to readers that the current article doesn't (yet) cover Errol's political career in the depth required of a true BLP. Feoffer (talk) 05:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as creator. GNG is met, he's been covered extensively in the press and in-depth in at least two different books. Ultimately, it's not fair to Maye Musk or Elon Musk to document Errol's extensive controversial public behavior on those articles, but neither is it fair to them for us simply to delete that verified information from the project. I haven't found fulltext access, but Afrikaans newspaper archive searches and the Isaacson book show Errol was a VERY notable person during his political career, long before Elon was an adult. Errol has a second claim to notability for his allegedly abusive relationships with Maye and Elon. Finally, Errol again became controversial for a marriage to a former stepdaughter (cf Soon-Yi Previn). Feoffer (talk) 04:58, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Even if this was notable, having it as a "familial relationships of" article makes 0 sense when it is basically a biography of him (focusing on his relationships because that's all the sources talk about!)
- The only thing here that's not directly related to, or from publications about, Elon or his ex wife is the "having a child with his stepdaughter" thing which is not enough to have an article on PARAKANYAA (talk) 06:07, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Your words carry lots of weight with me. Are you saying we should just move this content into a BLP titled Errol Musk? And if not, do you have an opinion on where we SHOULD cover what is known about Errol? We've got 4 different BLPs from folks reliably alleging abuse at Errol's hands. I know @Ergzay: expressed a preference for covering it at Elon's BLP, but it seems unfair to me to single out one victim like that, when it's a multidecade pattern of abuse that pre- and post- dated Elons interactions. Errol's later promotion of conspiracy theories and admission of fathering multiple children with a stepchild obviously lend credence to their prior allegations. Feoffer (talk) 10:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, if there's to be something here, it should be a BLP. The content in this article is basically a BLP already. I believe there was already an AfD for the initial Errol Musk article though.
- An alternative could be some sort of... Musk family article? I mean, his family's certainly discussed and he's certainly not the only notable member. Singling out his dad, who does not have his own article, for an article to be based around, doesn't make much sense. But if it's notable as part of his whole family then maybe, idk.
- I'm not sure if either of these ideas are good, though, or if either is notable. Your point about his political career making him notable is a possibility but until sigcov related to that is presented the jury's still out. Not impossible though. PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for this feedback.
- I probably should have said somewhere that this article was created to hold content removed in Musk family (which was deleted on June 1) which had been merged from Errol Musk (merged into Musk Family in Sept 2023). I concur that a full BLP should wait for the South African source, but in the mean time, the victims really do deserve for it to be SOMEWHERE in Wikipedia.(/?) Feoffer (talk) 11:51, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not in the business of deciding what people "deserve". Please read WP:RGW. Astaire (talk) 12:24, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Lol fair enough, I'm not on a crusade. but it's still verifiable content with exculpatory BLP implications for Elon and Maye. Feoffer (talk) 12:56, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Some of this content may belong somewhere on Wikipedia, but the current article is too flawed to stand. If it is really about "familial relationships", why does it discuss his business career, his election to city council and his game lodge? Why should anyone care that Errol claimed that Elon upgraded his home security system? Astaire (talk) 13:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
Why should anyone care that Errol claimed that Elon upgraded his home security system?
- Because it contradicts the false claims in media (sourced to Errol) of Elon's supposed abandonment of a disabled parent. Feoffer (talk) 13:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Including that content with that justification is a WP:OR issue, unless reliable sources explicitly note the contradiction themselves. Astaire (talk) 13:36, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well, any answer to your question about "why should anyone care" would be OR to put in article unless it was explicitly noted in RS. Feoffer (talk) 08:54, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- Including that content with that justification is a WP:OR issue, unless reliable sources explicitly note the contradiction themselves. Astaire (talk) 13:36, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Some of this content may belong somewhere on Wikipedia, but the current article is too flawed to stand. If it is really about "familial relationships", why does it discuss his business career, his election to city council and his game lodge? Why should anyone care that Errol claimed that Elon upgraded his home security system? Astaire (talk) 13:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Lol fair enough, I'm not on a crusade. but it's still verifiable content with exculpatory BLP implications for Elon and Maye. Feoffer (talk) 12:56, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not in the business of deciding what people "deserve". Please read WP:RGW. Astaire (talk) 12:24, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Your words carry lots of weight with me. Are you saying we should just move this content into a BLP titled Errol Musk? And if not, do you have an opinion on where we SHOULD cover what is known about Errol? We've got 4 different BLPs from folks reliably alleging abuse at Errol's hands. I know @Ergzay: expressed a preference for covering it at Elon's BLP, but it seems unfair to me to single out one victim like that, when it's a multidecade pattern of abuse that pre- and post- dated Elons interactions. Errol's later promotion of conspiracy theories and admission of fathering multiple children with a stepchild obviously lend credence to their prior allegations. Feoffer (talk) 10:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify Weird article. Creator claims that there is more coverage of him out there, so I don't think a full delete is warranted. Either way, the article is not ready for mainspace. If the consensus ends up being to delete, that would be fine by me. BottleOfChocolateMilk (talk) 06:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify or Delete I'm the one who submitted this, but I'm fine with either option. It doesn't make sense to have it as an article though. I'm not sure what moving it to a Draft could fix though. Ergzay (talk) 06:35, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- I interpret draftify calls as me having jumped the gun by publishing it in mainspace before we got access to the sources on political career needed to make a full balanced BLP. I get it's an unorthodox title, but it's also a little bit of a blpvio to not document Errol's verifiably-checkered past somewhere, given his public attacks on family. I don't feel good about stuffing it all into the BLP of one of his victims. Feoffer (talk) 11:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- The title is probably the biggest problem. Having an articles about the familial relationships of someone without having an article on the person themselves is a bit ridiculous. But there's lots of other issues beyond that, even if the page was moved, like the noteworthiness of the man himself and of anything he thinks beyond it's relation to Elon Musk. Ergzay (talk) 00:20, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
- I interpret draftify calls as me having jumped the gun by publishing it in mainspace before we got access to the sources on political career needed to make a full balanced BLP. I get it's an unorthodox title, but it's also a little bit of a blpvio to not document Errol's verifiably-checkered past somewhere, given his public attacks on family. I don't feel good about stuffing it all into the BLP of one of his victims. Feoffer (talk) 11:09, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify Plenty of notable source material for an article about the man more so than his "relations", especially since Musk Family got effectively yeeted. QRep2020 (talk) 16:23, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep and rename as Errol Musk - Numerous sources discuss his own life, so that his bio would easily pass GNG. Surely his son's fame directed attention to him, just like Maye Musk, Kimbal Musk and Tosca Musk; we've got plenty of coverage for those individuals as well, who arguably wouldn't be notably featured in the press if Elon's life hadn't attracted so much scrutiny. Ironic that notability is not inherited, though in this case the hyper-notability of one person did engender notability of various family members... — JFG talk 10:34, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Draftify with instructions to either make the article titled Errol Musk, or Family of Elon Musk. Walsh90210 (talk) 17:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm also fine with keeping this at Errol Musk, and either splitting the "family" material to a new article, or removing it. Walsh90210 (talk) 16:36, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- AFD is a blunt tool. We can't close a discussion with editing instructions. That's left to editors if the article is Kept. Liz Read! Talk! 02:35, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- This isn't a notable topic, but some of the content could be saved for a different topic. The only "blunt" option available is to draftify it until that tension is resolved. Walsh90210 (talk) 14:47, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- AFD is a blunt tool. We can't close a discussion with editing instructions. That's left to editors if the article is Kept. Liz Read! Talk! 02:35, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm also fine with keeping this at Errol Musk, and either splitting the "family" material to a new article, or removing it. Walsh90210 (talk) 16:36, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep and move to Errol Musk. I think there is probably enough written about him in RS to satisfy WP:GNG. TulsaPoliticsFan (talk) 21:11, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Again, Moving is an editorial act that will be discussed if an article is Kept. Liz Read! Talk! 02:35, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- AFDs end with consensus to Merge all the time. Feoffer (talk) 11:35, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- Feoffer, I know this, I close a lot of AFD discussions. The editor did not say Merge they said Move and that's what I Was responding to. Liz Read! Talk! 02:13, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Again, Moving is an editorial act that will be discussed if an article is Kept. Liz Read! Talk! 02:35, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Relisting this discussion as there is still no consensus. Of interest, is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Musk family (2nd nomination) and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Errol Musk. I don't think that this article can be moved to Errol Musk as that page has an extensive page history that shouldn't be deleted, there could be issues with attribution.
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- Roger Rohatgi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There is not a single direct and in-depth independent secondary article about him. Seems very non-notable business executive, clergy, motivational speaker. WorthWobble (talk) 12:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)— WorthWobble (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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- The CDO of bp, #22 in the Fortune 500, is non-notable figure? 98.118.86.149 (talk) 17:40, 11 July 2024 (UTC) — 98.118.86.149 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Without sourcing, yes. Oaktree b (talk) 22:46, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, hi. I'm new to Wikipedia and I'm just getting my feet wet. I've gone through the tutorials, but I have some questions. Please be patient as I work to better understand, because I'm a bit confused about notability and primary vs. secondary sources.
- For example, his link is not enough because it is just stuff from his wiki entry, which is referenced in his profile :https://www.ranker.com/review/roger-rohatgi/33496792?l=101186
- This link doesn't work because it isn't an article, just a profile, even though it was a talk run by Harvard Business Review: https://www.alumni.hbs.edu/events/leading-with-ai.aspx
- This link isn't enough because it isn't about him, even though he was a speaker for the economist, is this correct?https://viterbischool.usc.edu/news/2023/10/usc-viterbi-at-the-economist-space-economy-summit-in-los-angeles/
- This video doesn't work because it is a primary source, as it is a recording of him speaking
- This is a secondary source, but because he is only mentioned as a speaker, but it isn't about him, this wouldn't make the cut, correct? https://medium.com/techsonar/my-thoughts-on-the-iot-world-and-ai-summit-2022-in-austin-tx-131addde76b2
- This article is an interview with him, which makes it Primary, even though there is a transcript. Are transcripts primary or secondary? https://www.designit.com/stories/point-of-view/design-the-future-featuring-roger-rohatgi
- As a follow up to the above link, it is also a Podcast where he is brought on to be interviewed. That makes the Podcast primary, correct?
- This blurb is technically a secondary source, but it has information that can be found elsewhere. What I mean is: I've read this while searching for these links. It is too short to count, right? https://augmentedenterprisesummit.com/speakers/2024-roger-rohatgi/
- Same for this, correct? https://www.rca.ac.uk/research-innovation/research-centres/helen-hamlyn-centre/session-6-social-sustainability-the-role-of-inclusive-design/
- This is too close because he literally works at bp: https://www.bp.com/en/global/corporate/careers/life-at-bp/our-stories/rogers-story.html
- I'm not saying that this is a great example, but would this be a secondary source?
- I apologize for the wall of text, but since there were vet editors here, I thought I should ask. These links were found with ChatGPT, but Wikipedia editing is my new rabbit hole :) Illunadin (talk) 20:42, 16 July 2024 (UTC) — Illunadin (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Sorry, sorry. One last question. This is secondary, but it doesn't actually provide much ABOUT him, just what he said. Should these be considered? https://www.wired.com/story/fast-forward-the-chatbots-are-now-talking-to-each-other/ Illunadin (talk) 20:55, 16 July 2024 (UTC) — Illunadin (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Same as above. It mentions his job and role, but it isn't about him in particular, correct? https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/blog/2024/01/24/bring-virtual-connections-to-life-with-microsoft-mesh-now-generally-available-in-microsoft-teams/ Illunadin (talk) 20:56, 16 July 2024 (UTC) — Illunadin (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Sorry, sorry. One last question. This is secondary, but it doesn't actually provide much ABOUT him, just what he said. Should these be considered? https://www.wired.com/story/fast-forward-the-chatbots-are-now-talking-to-each-other/ Illunadin (talk) 20:55, 16 July 2024 (UTC) — Illunadin (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Without sourcing, yes. Oaktree b (talk) 22:46, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Little to no coverage of this person, this is about all there is [3], Oaktree b (talk) 22:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep or Redirect to bb article. Seems like he initially began his career as a film director and received a notable award, which satisfies WP:ANYBIO criteria. And later, he shifted his career focus and went on to win also the Oracle CX Innovation Award. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.241.147.18 (talk) 14:25, 13 July 2024 (UTC) — 87.241.147.18 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
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- Delete: as nom said, there's nearly no WP:SIGCOV about this individual. Also, WP:ANYBIO requires
a well-known and significant award
, which the "Oracle CX innovation award" is not, and as for the bare bones festival award, I'm doubtful as to its notability (and anyways I can't find any trace of it anywhere). — Alien333 (what I did & why I did it wrong) 17:15, 18 July 2024 (UTC)- Online sources only? Illunadin (talk) 20:31, 18 July 2024 (UTC) — Illunadin (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Some sources from the 2000s have not been properly archived, making it difficult to find digitized ones, and the awards received look quite notable for WP:ANYBIO. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.241.151.73 (talk) 10:15, 19 July 2024 (UTC) — 87.241.151.73 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep: There is a great deal of information about him out there. Far too much to be a flash in the pan, and he is obviously a go getter who is in the papers.
- After finding so many articles about him, it seems almost like we are splitting hairs and being a bit too strict about deleting them in an arbitrary way.
- "Well known and significant award". He has been given many awards within specific industries and fields, and multiple times. Just because the award is not familiar to us doesn't make it not notable.
- He is obviously also a prime mover in the AI field, and works directly with others. I would keep it because it will grow and mature, as can be evidenced by this discussion. Illunadin (talk) 14:54, 22 July 2024 (UTC) — Illunadin (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Case in point: https://archive.org/details/81a-8f-46d-482c-4732-a-49f-2b-329862608a Illunadin (talk) 14:55, 22 July 2024 (UTC) — Illunadin (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Delete. The article is a WP:REFBOMB that brings together apparently every speaking engagement, blog post, paid placement, WP:TRIVIALMENTION, corporate bio and self-authored content ever published about the subject, and yet none of them constitute WP:SIGCOV in independent, secondary and reliable sources. The awards he has received are non-notable. There is no evidence the subject clears WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:43, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment The article clearly meets WP:ANYBIO. It’s important not to undermine the value of merits and awards. For example, The Atoka County Times recognized him as a major figure in Hollywood and New York and provided a film review that aligns with WP:FILMMAKER standards. The apparent lack of sources for SINGCOV is due to the original sources not being properly archived, which has created a perception of inadequate reliability. This is a common issue with many articles from the early 2000s. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.241.150.94 (talk • contribs) 18:33, 25 July 2024 (UTC)— 87.241.150.94 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- The Atoka County Times is a rural weekly newspaper, and it was not reviewing the film but promoting the production of it, which took place locally. It's the kind of booster-ish content one would expect in such a publication. Also, the link provided by @Illunadin (you?) above doesn't say "major figure," it describes him as an "emerging force." I am not sure how much weight we should give to an unbylined article in a rural Oklahoma weekly newspaper to determine who is an emerging force in Hollywood, but by no means does this single article help the subject clear WP:GNG or WP:FILMMAKER. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:54, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi hi, sorry, no, not me. I appreciate that you think I understand the WP: ****** syntax. I'm not there.
- I'm just trying to learn and this conversation seemed divisive enough to be a great fertile place to learn the hair splitting way I need to think. I appreciate the compliment though! Illunadin (talk) 15:31, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- The Atoka County Times is a rural weekly newspaper, and it was not reviewing the film but promoting the production of it, which took place locally. It's the kind of booster-ish content one would expect in such a publication. Also, the link provided by @Illunadin (you?) above doesn't say "major figure," it describes him as an "emerging force." I am not sure how much weight we should give to an unbylined article in a rural Oklahoma weekly newspaper to determine who is an emerging force in Hollywood, but by no means does this single article help the subject clear WP:GNG or WP:FILMMAKER. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:54, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment. I’ve explained why many sources are currently unavailable, but this doesn’t mean the article should be dismissed or that all other available sources should be labeled as advertising or unreliable. My suggestion keeping the article with a tag indicating the need for additional sources. There’s a clear match with WP:ANYBIO, and more sources should be located and digitized, similar to what was done with The Atoka County Times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.241.151.225 (talk) 15:08, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Faris Mannekkara (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Likely to fail WP:NBIO - sourced to PR/puff pieces.
Earlier draft: Draft:Muhammed Faris Mannekkara KH-1 (talk) 00:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete The editor who wrote this article made a Draft:Muhammed Faris Mannekkara on 08:13, 22 June 2024 and kept it and later made a new article with a slight change in the title, which is a wrong trend and does not prove WP:NBIO. ~ Spworld2 (talk) 04:00, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Although the editor who made this page did a mistake by creating a draft and then again creating it into the main space, maybe he is a newbie that's why....but if we look at the person's page, he was awarded the community Leader Award from the Kerala State Women's Development Corporation which is a state award from the person's home state which is in Kerala and the Fulbright Foundation’s Global Changemaker Award in 2023 which is a International award given by the US Government which i believe at least qualify the award category of the people's notability guidelines according to the guidelines written in Wikipedia. This guy also has a significant coverage in The Times of India, Economics Times , Ahmedabad Mirror which i believe is considered reliable in Wikipedia. So we have 2 of the 3 basic criteria except the national dictionary thing ....also While reading the content of these articles i don't see any kind of sponsored post written or a disclaimer in the news coverage these are just my analysis. SATavr (talk) 16:19, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- It may be ignorance / new editor who wrote the draft and then made a new page, but destroyed the first edits in the first draft and deleted it in a completely unrecognizable form, added another person to it and added it to his date of birth and created a misunderstanding because of lack of knowledge?? Draft:Muhammed Faris Mannekkara Difference between revisions [4], Draft:Muhammed Faris Mannekkara 2nd Difference between revisions[5] Spworld2 (talk) 06:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I do agree with you. It was a stupid mistake done by this new editor and i think he lacks the patience for it and just wanted to go directly with a shortcut way for publication. Thats why he change the draft content to a different person and he thought we would'nt know lol..... I believe he has learned a lesson not to do it again and i hope he has got to know that things doesnt workout like this. SATavr (talk) 09:10, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- It may be ignorance / new editor who wrote the draft and then made a new page, but destroyed the first edits in the first draft and deleted it in a completely unrecognizable form, added another person to it and added it to his date of birth and created a misunderstanding because of lack of knowledge?? Draft:Muhammed Faris Mannekkara Difference between revisions [4], Draft:Muhammed Faris Mannekkara 2nd Difference between revisions[5] Spworld2 (talk) 06:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep A before search comes up with many sources. (e.g. [1] [2]. Numerous articles featuring the names appear, the most of them in Hindi and English. Tiger-in-Action (talk) 08:13, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- PR/churnalism doesn’t count. Both articles are just advertorials for his car company.-KH-1 (talk) 10:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- These articles discuss his side automobile firm, yet his Wikipedia biography hardly ever mentions this information. The autogenerated nature of these stories is not disclaimed, as is typically the case. The name of the publisher, Sunil Chaurasia, is also mentioned in The Economic Times. His social work is the subject of major pieces that don't appear to be PR or churnalism. They include original research, such as his participation in and thorough coverage of the Sankesh Foundation and the Smiles Foundation. - [3] which is covered in the Ahmedabad Mirror. Another example is his relationship with Shyalash C, his mentor, which isn't mentioned on his Wikipedia page but is confirmed as original research in Punjab Kesari - [4]. Tiger-in-Action (talk) 09:09, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- PR/churnalism doesn’t count. Both articles are just advertorials for his car company.-KH-1 (talk) 10:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Relisting. It would be nice to hear from some more experienced editors about whether sourcing is sufficient to establish notability.
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- Keep The person is currently serving as a Global Peace Ambassador under UN75. He has been awarded the Fulbright Award and a State Government Award from Kerala. He meets the basic criteria of WP:GNG and WP:BIO. With regards to his sources the news articles on his social work looks fine but the same cannot be said for some of his articles written about his second-hand car business found in google but considering that his Wikipedia page does not cover his car business, overall, it looks fine to me. Master rollo (talk) 11:29, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: I only get two pages of Gnews results, most are by "staff" or puff pieces/advertorials. The Fullbright sounds promising, but without sourcing we can't confirm, nor do we have enough for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 00:51, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Best I could find was this [6]; GTranslate seems to say it's a staff piece, so likely about as unreliable as the rest of what's already in the article. Oaktree b (talk) 00:52, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- I would suggest searching by his full name, Muhammad Faris Mannekkara, to find additional articles about him. Also, please check the sources listed on his Wikipedia page. it maybe possible that his articles are ranked poorly in google search engine. that's why less result are been shown but if you try his full name which act like a keyword you will find the news article. Regarding his Fulbright award, it is published in this source as well. [5].
- When i am doing the Google Translate for this article - [3] it is referring the person as "she" instead of "He" and is not translating the words in a properly manner. Also the article mentions the author's name as well - Gaurav Tiwari which means it contradict the claim that it was written by multiple staff. Also there aren't any disclaimer that says this story is autogenerated. Blackwatch007 (talk) 15:44, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep:
Faris Mannekkara is currently serving as a Peace Ambassador for the United Nations. His notable achievements include receiving the prestigious Fulbright Award and a State Government Award from the Kerala government. He meets the criteria for WP BIO due to his significant contributions and recognition in his field. There are numerous secondary sources available on Google that document his extensive career in social service, highlighting his impact and dedication. Angiemcc2023 (talk) 04:30, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. There's no reason demonstrated why this person is any more notable than other successful young social worker and businessman in Kerala. Wikipedia is neither a business card nor a linkedin page. I'd be happy to shown I'm wrong, but it looks like there are tens of thousands of "Global Peace Ambassadors." Fails ANYBIO and SIGCOV. BusterD (talk) 14:59, 25 July 2024 (UTC)