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- The Gelboys (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Simply fails WP:NBAND, couldn't find any source to establish that or generally WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 13:30, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Consulate-General of China, Chongjin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Consulates are rarely notable. I'm certainly not seeing how this one is, with lines such as "The consulate expressed "deep condolences" after Kim Jong-il's death in 2011". Fails WP:GNG. AusLondonder (talk) 13:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Munish Kumar Raizada (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No significant coverage, and no actual claim to notability. bonadea contributions talk 13:24, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Tom Smail (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Articles for the New York Times makes no mention of the subject, most of the other sources are merely passing mentions. Fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. Jamiebuba (talk) 13:15, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Embassy of Moldova, Berlin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unreferenced article that merely is a list of ambassadors. Fails GNG. LibStar (talk) 12:37, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- The Wisdom Bridge (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Only one source listed is an actual review/has outside commentary and what seems to be independence. I was unable to find anything else. A lot of the sources fall under WP:NEWSORGINDIA which further confuses matters. Redirect to Kamlesh Patel (Daaji)? PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:48, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
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I contest this as the article as sufficient references as suggested per Wikipedia Policies for a book. The article has also been reviewed by other editors.Gardenkur (talk) 13:34, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Most of the references are press-release tier material which per NBOOK do not count for notability. PARAKANYAA (talk) 17:06, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. The references are promo, paid coverage, wire stories, etc. I started clearing out the worst offenders to see if there was anything hiding in there, but it's just a WP:REFBOMB. If I cut all the not-qualifying coverage there won't be anything left. -- asilvering (talk) 04:25, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Relisting. Although a lot of sources have been removed from this article since its nomination, a source review or current references would be helpful to see if WP:NBOOK is met as one editor is arguing (in a roundabout way).
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:38, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Source analysis for the fns in this version:
- short wire article; looks like paid coverage
- not independent (by author of book)
- not independent (by author of book)
- has a byline, not short, not in an obvious ads-only section; the best source in the article at present, but it's still not... great
- not independent (by author of book)
- basically a celebrity endorsement? really don't think this is fully independent
- no byline, obvious marketing copy
- no byline, obvious marketing copy + promo excerpt
- not sigcov
-- asilvering (talk) 01:43, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, asilvering. Liz Read! Talk! 03:30, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Kamlesh Patel (Daaji)#Books (with the history preserved under the redirect), where the subject is already mentioned, per Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion. The subject does not meet Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline.
A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow editors to selectively merge any content that can be reliably sourced to the target article. A redirect with the history preserved under the redirect will allow the redirect to be undone if significant coverage in reliable sources is found in the future. Cunard (talk) 09:28, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Cunard,Liz and asilvering.If voting is the way to retain or remove the articles from Wikipedia,than Wikipedia should not have any guidelines. Than all the articles can be put for voting and the editors will remove the articles. This is a very bad precedent which can spoil the credibility of Wikipedia.Thanks. Gardenkur (talk) 12:01, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- I will switch to supporting retention if two independent reliable sources that provide significant coverage of the book can be found. This would establish notability under Wikipedia:Notability (books)#Criteria and Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline. Cunard (talk) 10:30, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Cunard. Thanks for your reply. Could you consider some of the below links:
1.https://indianexpress.com/article/parenting/learning/book-offers-9-principles-for-stress-free-parenting-8213322/ 2.https://www.khaleejtimes.com/kt-network/the-wisdom-bridge-by-daaji-offers-nine-principles-to-life 3.https://www.educationworld.in/daajis-book-the-wisdom-bridge-turns-the-spotlight-on-raising-happy-families/ 4.https://indiaeducationdiary.in/new-book-the-wisdom-bridge-by-daaji-brings-focus-on-family-resilience-raising-happy-children-and-responsible-teenagers/ 5.https://www.frontlist.in/the-wisdom-bridge-nine-principles-to-a-life-that-echoes-in-the-hearts-of-your-loved-ones-by-kamlesh-d-patel 6.https://www.thedispatch.in/the-wisdom-bridge-by-daaji-is-the-perfect-guide-to-stress-free-parenting-and-raising-resilient-children-and-happy-families/ 7.https://worthfull.in/shop/the-wisdom-bridge/ 8.https://www.anuradhasridharan.com/2023/07/book-review-wisdom-bridge-by-daaji.html 9.https://www.kidsbookcafe.com/review-the-wisdom-bridge/
I request Cunard,Liz and asilvering to consider the above coverage in secondary sources and guide accordingly. We need to work on keeping the neutrality of Wikipedia platform than denouncing a particular subject on voting basis.thanks. Gardenkur (talk) 10:55, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for sharing these sources. Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources#Paid reporting in Indian news organizations is something I keep in mind when reviewing sources from Indian news organizations. As this is not an area where I'm experienced in, I'd like other editors to share their opinions on these sources. Cunard (talk) 11:03, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Gardenkur, most of these are the sources I've already analyzed in my earlier comment. -- asilvering (talk) 16:33, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
Hi asilvering. Thanks for your reply. I have requested maintaining the article based on Wikipedia guidelines for references. I think the article meets the criteria. I have an interest in Wikipedia platform and not working for any other reason.Thanks.Gardenkur (talk) 06:52, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Essense club (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article makes no claim of notability. Cabayi (talk) 12:23, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- On the fence. Their "Litmus" events appear to have attracted a decent amount of coverage. Here's what I see: Times of India, The Hindu, Times of India, Times of India, The Hindu, New Indian Express.. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 12:42, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- William Morton Mackay (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unable to verify a single fact. Fails WP:SIGCOV. I was planning to update the article to a modern standard but can't find anything. Nothing. scope_creepTalk 12:17, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Reeves Cini (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Potentially fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC. The article is currently sourced to a stats page and Facebook, both of which clearly are not acceptable. My own searches yield nothing better than the likes of Match Centre and Times of Malta, which do not provide significant enough coverage for a stand-alone article on Cini. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 10:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Just like Zean Leonardi, I wish to add more references but couldn't find any. I feel a little heartbroken about this, and wish for this article to stay up, but honestly I don't know what I can do to add more references. If you could pls edit the page with more references to help. I just want to make the Maltese people more recognizable in Wikipedia. GabrylMT(Talk to Gabryl) 14:45, 1 September 2024 (CEST)
- If you're struggling to find news sources that discuss Cini in significant depth then the likelihood is that they don't exist. Also worth noting that Wikipedia is not a place for making your favourite footballers 'more recognisable'. You should only be writing about footballers that already have plenty of coverage. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 13:25, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Also another thing that makes me MORE heartbroken about this situation is that an article like Dexter Xuereb is allowed and mine is NOT. WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY ARTICLE!?. Just wanted to make footballers more recognizable :( GabrylMT(Talk to Gabryl) 14:51, 1 September 2024 (CEST)
- Viewquake (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Reviewed for NPP. Does not pass WP:NEO. Sourced to a post on Lesswrong (a blog) and the guy who made up the word. This could maybe be on Wiktionary but I don't know how that project operates. PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:20, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. Alexeyevitch(talk) 10:23, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- 2025 in hip hop music (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Comparing this to the various List of years in hip hop music articles, most recently 2024 in hip hop music, and given the ubiquity of Hip hop culture around the world, this may well merit an article once the year 2025 actually starts. As it stands as of 1 Sep 2024, this would appear to fall under any or all deletion criteria WP:P&G-s, including but not limited to WP:TOOSOON and WP:CRYSTAL. That said, I do not oppose its speedy deletion, given the nature of its 1 Sep 2024 content. As always, happy to be proven wrong about this. Or anything else. Pete AU aka Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 09:47, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment - Agreed on a lot of the points above. Absolutely not ready to be published in its current state, but oftentimes it's about that time where enough is known/covered that it could be created if someone actually tried. (2025 in heavy metal music is in a barely passable state and I've been putting material together for the rock music equivalent.) Thus probably needs to be sent to a WP:DRAFT in the meantime though. Sergecross73 msg me 12:50, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Kazel Kinouchi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Refs are clickbait and profiles. Potentially notable but currently fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creepTalk 09:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: clear WP:NACTOR pass, so that deletion is not necessary in my view, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:13, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Regan Frame (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Originally a PROD by User:Fram, which I fully supported. Sources have been added but none of them satisfy WP:SPORTBASIC or WP:GNG as all are database sources or passing mentions. The subject is playing in the second tier of New Zealand and the best that I can find on him is Friends of Football. I fail to see how Frame is notable. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 09:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Guda Endla (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I couldn't find sources to verify this. Boleyn (talk) 19:38, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. There is plenty of evidence that this is a recognised settlement and therefore passes WP:GEOLAND. The police stations reports, for instance. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:50, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Tentative keep. I found three Google news articles about recent crimes in the village. I edited the lead. Could someone else please add the articles to this article? If not, please userfy. Bearian (talk) 02:01, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Etienne Uzac (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SIGCOV. Routine coverage of court visits. No other coverage. Fails WP:BIO. scope_creepTalk 09:00, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Finvasia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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An article about a finance company. Previous instances were soft-deleted at AfD (January 2022) and deleted at AfD in April 2024; this instance was created by a new editor, rejected at AfC in July, then moved into main space by the article creator. The present article content lists acquisitions and licenses which fall under WP:ORGTRIV; the most substantial references are the interview pieces in Times Now and Cyprus Business News, but these are presenting a company-aspirational view. I don't see sufficient coverage to demonstrate attained notability. AllyD (talk) 08:42, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Anjum Sharma (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:REFBOMB doesn't help matters and this draft doesn't meet WP:NACTOR. A recurring character in a film doesn't sometimes show notability. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:39, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: at least 2 significant roles in notable productions so that deletion is not necessary in my opinion. Trimming of references is a cleanup issue. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 12:08, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Amir Eid (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't appear to meet WP:NMUSICBIO and WP:NACTOR. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 07:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Franco Spitale (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:BLP1E for only being known for winning a poker contest, which is the only content in this article. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
06:00, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Hunter Leppien (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't seem to be enough reliable coverage at this time, appears to be WP:TOOSOON StewdioMACK (talk) 05:34, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: I am unable to find enough coverage to meet GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 07:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - fails basic notability guidelines. Alexeyevitch(talk) 08:15, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete fails WP:SPORTCRIT Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 08:29, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
This player is notable as has played professional rugby union at national provincial level therefore I see no reason for deletion. FinzUp19 (talk) 10:33, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Velappaya Mahadevar temple (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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no RS found found based on a google search. Sohom (talk) 04:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Martialis (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This was moved from Martialis (cognomen) for no good reason. The sole non-cognomen entry is a WP:partial title match. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:29, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as original expander of article to include Martialis heureka. Martialis is the generic name, and its status as a monotypic taxon does not change the fact that it is a genus. Therefore, WP:PTM does not apply here. 2003 LN6 05:01, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've tweaked the dab page entry to make it more instantly obvious that it's the genus name. PamD 12:05, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- And in future please never "move" a page by a cut and paste: use "Move" or WP:RM. Thanks. PamD 12:33, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose as original expander of article to include Martialis heureka. Martialis is the generic name, and its status as a monotypic taxon does not change the fact that it is a genus. Therefore, WP:PTM does not apply here. 2003 LN6 05:01, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep and withdraw or speedy close: a discussion about what the page is called should not be at AfD. PamD
- And I have now formatted it as a dab page which has a primary topic. PamD 07:49, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep This DAB is clearly good as the previous page acts like a DAB Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 08:32, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
*Comment This is a mess. I have just discovered that @2003 LN6: "moved" the previous Roman cognomen page to the dab page by doing a cut and paste move, thus losing the past history (which shows its creation in 2001 by @Clarityfiend:. With the existence of Martialis (ant), the genus, and a bishop I've found too, this should clearly be a dab page but it should not have been created like that. I have restored Martialis (cognomen) to its version before that incorrect edit, but I now suggest:
- Withdraw this AfD
- Make a formal WP:RM to move that page to the title Martialis (disambiguation), preserving its page history
Reinstate the edits I've made which format it as a dab page with a primary topic. PamD 12:20, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Or another way would be to add the {{copied}} template to both talk pages, explaining where the cognomen stuff had been copied from - but in any case offering acknowledgement of the history of the page. PamD 12:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Which I've just done. PamD 12:32, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Australia (Mango album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Seems to be original research, doesn't appear to meet GNG, couldn't find sources to bring it up to notability, from my searching. StewdioMACK (talk) 04:00, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) StewdioMACK (talk) 11:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Cracking Up (1977 film) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't appear to meet GNG. Couldn't find any reliable secondary coverage of the film to make it notable. StewdioMACK (talk) 03:48, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: Added 3 extensive reviews. More available online and probably not online. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:48, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: In addition to the reviews added to the article, there are also reviews in the Philadelphia Daily News and the Los Angeles Times. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 11:30, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- David Scott (video game developer) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The sources provided are WP:PASSINGMENTION quick google search reveals no info about him entirely which make this article fails WP:NBIO Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 03:28, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Looks like he is not like giving interviews. Vitaly Zdanevich (talk) 07:21, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Buang Ruk Kamathep (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unreferenced cross-wiki spam. Mccapra (talk) 05:30, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Not sure what the "cross-wiki spam" claim is supposed to mean. It's a nationally televised TV series, and has the usual press coverage[1][2][3] and magazine covers[4][5], though as is often the case most information seems to be from press releases. It's 15 years old now so some sources may have gone offline. That said, The current article is such an uninformative substub that there's not much to lose if this is deleted without prejudice. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:40, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The sources presented by Paul 012 can be added to the page and I consider them enough to show this is notable. A redirect should be considered anyway.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:42, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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- List of Olympic medalists in figure skating by age (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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All unsourced. Also, why do we even have this? Bgsu98 (Talk) 22:36, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete for failing WP:NLIST. At best, the youngest and maybe oldest ever get some attention, but not every single skater. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:07, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The list would be very helpful to users who are interested in topics related to athletes age. WP:NLIST: “Lists that fulfill WP:LISTPURP, WP:LISTPURP-NAV often are kept regardless of any demonstrated notability.” Nihonjinatny (talk) 18:45, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- WP:ITSUSEFUL is not a valid Afd argument. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:15, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Timeline of Pinterest (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412 T 02:56, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: standard WP:SPLITLIST, see Category:Technology company timelines. No blatantly promotional language visible, nor is the alleged UPE issue discussed on the TP, so that the tag could, or even should, have been removed. Might need some cleanup. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:39, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Not suitable for Wikipedia. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 02:40, 21 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Per nom. M S Hassan 📬✍🏻 05:31, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete, this sort of cataloguing is not Wikipedia's business, and it appears to be a conflict of interest, i.e. this is actively undesirable as well as totally unnecessary and unencyclopedic. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:33, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep only needs basic clean up as per WP:SPLITLIST, remember that AfD is NOT Clean Up, this page is clearly notable but in a bad shape. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 08:37, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Doesn't matter how much it's cleaned up, the topic of the timeline isn't notable (even if the company is, but that's a separate article, and notability is not inherited) and is of benefit only to the company concerned. This sort of over-detail is not in Wikipedia's interest; it should not be here, and keeping it is actively dangerous as it encourages other companies to try to use us for free advertising. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:41, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- a personally think we should refer this to the guild of copy-editors, and remove some unwanted stuffs and possible make the article in prose not in table form as it sounds like a catalogue. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 08:48, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Doesn't matter how much it's cleaned up, the topic of the timeline isn't notable (even if the company is, but that's a separate article, and notability is not inherited) and is of benefit only to the company concerned. This sort of over-detail is not in Wikipedia's interest; it should not be here, and keeping it is actively dangerous as it encourages other companies to try to use us for free advertising. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:41, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Wayne T. Smith (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412 T 02:55, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Speedy keep: AfD is not clean up, Yes, the article is in bad shape but the subject of the article is notable enough as the lead alone is enough explained how he is notable. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 08:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Unger Steel Group (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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nonnotable business, tagged since 2015 meaning nobody cares --Altenmann >talk 22:45, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Draftify: Lacks significant coverage in English from reliable sources, the notability is unsure. While the German page has a longer article cited more recent sources, I cannot tell the quality of them due to the language. If the German article of it is deleted at last, this one should be deleted. Nihonjinatny (talk) 17:37, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Home idle load (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Basically per WP:WEBHOST. This article has been tagged as possibly having been "created or edited in return for undisclosed payments, a violation of Wikipedia's terms of use" for over seven years with no resolution of that tag. Notable or not, Wikipedia should not maintain content that violates its terms of use for such a length of time. BD2412 T 02:53, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Possibly relevant discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Electrical_engineering/Archive_1#Is Home Idle Load a neologism? PianoDan (talk) 00:15, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: The concept discussed in the article is distinct from standby power and plug load and doesn't have a clear merge target. The issues regarding paid contributions could be remedied in a rough manner by removing all mentions of specific brands, recommendations, etc., and it isn't so bad that the whole article should be deleted and redone (WP:TNT). The concept exists beyond its uses to promote brands. Reconrabbit 16:41, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Greedflation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I know Shrinkflation exists, but not every neologism needs its own page, many times pages such as this require much more substantial coverage to show the term is lasting and not simply a product of WP:Recent as well. Iljhgtn (talk) 02:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - this is a distinct concept and one that is widely discussed in politics around the world and needs its own page to reflect that discussion. Also, the article when this notice was posted had 48 references - how many references does an article need to show that it is notable?Update: Keep and move to: Sellers' inflation - this is a more encyclopedic/academic synonym.
The article also has incorporated some of the feedback given here including shifting away from listing examples to two new sections:
1) 'Mechanisms' which outlines the drivers of sellers' inflation according to this theory (information assymetry and monopoly power)
2) 'Proposed remedies' that quickly summarizes the tools proposed to address inflation under this theory (e.g. windfall profit taxes and price caps). Superb Owl (talk) 02:56, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep but severely trim down. The cited sources are reliable and significant, but we don't need so many of them. The article is basically a definition followed by a laundry list of every conceivable example. The concept can be adequately described in a couple of paragraphs. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 02:07, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Merge with Price gouging. SPECIFICO talk 02:40, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Much of this content came from price gouging but was rejected for being broader than price gouging which is a legal threshold in many places, whereas greedflation is a spectrum of legal and illegal activity (depending on the place) Superb Owl (talk) 02:43, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Inflation is not illegal. SPECIFICO talk 02:48, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Exactly Superb Owl (talk) 04:01, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Inflation is not illegal. SPECIFICO talk 02:48, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Much of this content came from price gouging but was rejected for being broader than price gouging which is a legal threshold in many places, whereas greedflation is a spectrum of legal and illegal activity (depending on the place) Superb Owl (talk) 02:43, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Merge with Price gouging. soibangla (talk) 03:12, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Merge with Price gouging. Shrinkflation is an example of price gouging and would naturally fit very well there. The Price Gouging article only mentions "Shrinkflation" in passing, currently... a merge would fix that. Marcus Markup (talk) 10:20, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- This article only mentions shrinkflation once in passing Superb Owl (talk) 07:03, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- I meant 'greedflation' of course. It gets hard sometimes, keeping all the neologisms straight. Marcus Markup (talk) 15:38, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Merge, I now think that a Merge !vote into Price gouging would also make sense, with the content greatly condensed too. I am ok with either a merge or a delete closing. Iljhgtn (talk) 12:32, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I would argue that Price Gouging is more accurately an example of Greedflation, rather than the other way around. A lot of these sorts of terms are also very contentiously defined on the internet, and there's a substantive lack of authoritative positions on it on Wikipedia or elsewhere. MasterOfGrey(MoG) (talk) 01:34, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: as seen in discussion so far, the relationship between greedflation/sellers' inflation and price gouging is not really clear to me; can't tell from scanning both articles. I'm not comfortable voting until it's clearer. I think it's possible that the articles can have sufficiently different scope to merit separate articles. seefooddiet (talk) 18:37, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Zean Leonardi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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fails WP:SPORTCRIT the source provided is a database. The only source that pop up in google news is the this by Times of Malta Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 02:39, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete for lack of significant news coverage.Shinadamina (talk) 06:46, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- I wish to add more references but couldn't find any. I feel a little heartbroken about this, and wish for this article to stay up, but honestly I don't know what I can do to add more references. If you could pls edit the page with more references to help. I just want to make the Maltese people more recognizable in Wikipedia.
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- If there aren't any more references out there then it's safe to say that Leonardi isn't notable. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 13:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Also another thing that makes me MORE heartbroken about this situation is that an article like Dexter Xuereb is allowed and mine is NOT. WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY ARTICLE!?. Just wanted to make footballers more recognizable :(
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Fails WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV. Found some sources [6] and [7] which are trivial. However [8] appears to be extensive, but I don't think its enough for WP:SIGCOV. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 19:55, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: My searches yielded lots of passing mentions in "match" reports. The Salzburg24 article linked by the nom has a few sentences of coverage, but nothing approaching WP:SIGCOV. The subject fails WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 20:21, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Thanks for the source; it's been added to the article. Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:26, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 02:31, 1 September 2024 (UTC)- Delete most of the sources is database or passing mention which fails WP:SPORTCRIT per
Trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may be used to support content in an article, but it is not sufficient to establish notability. This includes listings in database sources with low, wide-sweeping generic standards of inclusion, such as Sports Reference's college football and basketball databases.
- and Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 02:48, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Galactic Theme (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NALBUM. Sources are announcements of the album or unreliable. CNMall41 (talk) 19:55, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: While the sources are reliable, the pieces are unreliable. I can't rely on a news piece that lacks a byline. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:09, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- The only source without byline in the article is the New Music Weekly and that's how the website is. I've added more refs by the way. 102.88.68.119 (talk) 11:01, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Refs added. Like Vanderwaal said, the sources are reliable. Also, the album has received multiple reviews from reliable publications per WP:NALBUM. 102.88.68.119 (talk) 11:06, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: The sources added make it pass WP:NALBUM Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 02:44, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Southern Diocese (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lacking secondary sources. Completely fails WP:ORGCRIT. There is no way that individual dioceses of the fringe Free Church of England are individually notable. AusLondonder (talk) 15:13, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep as a valid split from a notable main article it does not have to pass WP:ORGCRIT in my view. In any case WP:NCHURCH specifies that passing WP:GNG is enough, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:02, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- That's a very generous reading of NCHURCH which states that religious organisations "must meet the notability guideline for organizations and companies or the general notability guideline or both". Nevertheless, can you explain how this meets GNG? Where is the "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject"? It's certainly not there now. AusLondonder (talk) 21:10, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes passing GNG is enough... But this topic doesn't appear to pass GNG. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:31, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. There should probably be an SNG on this but dioceses and other middle judicatories of major church traditions (Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican) are almost always viewed per se as notable, even without secondary sourcing (see AfDs from 2019, 2018, 2018, 2012, 2007, 2007). (The only "delete" results for a diocese that I've seen were for a tiny splinter group with no sourcing available at all or for an apparent hoax.) This isn't a WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument; there's precedent established in the discussions resulting in a long series of "keep" decisions for dioceses, and editors in those debates referred to previous precedent as well. Separately from this precedent, there is WP:SIGCOV for the FCE's Southern Diocese: see the Telegraph, Anglican Ink, PCN, and an encyclopedic entry in the Encyclopedia Americana. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:01, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- None of that appears to be significant coverage of the Diocese. Any argument based on precedent is a OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument, arguments of precedent aren't worth anything on wikipedia because we give absolutely no value to precedent whatsoever... We choose a different approach, consensus. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:31, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Each article needs to be judged on its own merits, not false claims to inherent notability. This is particularly the case for a minor, fringe organisation like the Free Church of England. To equate the FCE to the Catholic Church or the Anglican Communion is simply ridiculous. The Telegraph article is absolutely not significant coverage of the Southern Diocese specifically. AusLondonder (talk) 12:07, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. As I !voted above, I do think based on longstanding precedent "keep" is the community default for this sort of article, but I would accept "merge" as an alternative based on the size of the diocese (and considering that had it been up to me I would not have created free-standing pages for the FCE dioceses in the first place). Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per longstanding precedent that dioceses of established church organizations are typically treated as presumptively notable, provided that they actually have more than just a collection of people holding meetings in their living rooms. The diocese is admittedly rather small. But I think it passes our customary threshold. This has been the WP:COMMONSENSE approach to these articles for as long as I can remember. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:50, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. "Diocese" of a small splinter group consisting of eight churches. No significant coverage. No notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:06, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep (or the alternative, merge) per Dclemens1971 and Ad Orientem. It’s not a new sect or religion; it’s almost 200 years old. Mainstream apostolic churches are notable. Bearian (talk) 02:17, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Surprised by this, Bearian. I haven't nominated the church for deletion. This is about an individual diocese which is not notable itself seperate to the church. AusLondonder (talk) 10:38, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Got it. A merger is ok. Bearian (talk) 20:47, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Surprised by this, Bearian. I haven't nominated the church for deletion. This is about an individual diocese which is not notable itself seperate to the church. AusLondonder (talk) 10:38, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, the topic of this article does not appear to pass GNG or any of the SNG which it actually does need to do per WP:N. None of the keep arguments made so far appear compliant with existing policy and guideline. Merge doesn't make sense because there is no signficant unique information on the page, there isn't anything to merge. Its a collection of trivia from primary sources. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 19:31, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Lowell Galindo (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NBASIC, I cannot find any article talking about him alone. The sources uses a datebase and a primary source Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 02:14, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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This fails WP:GNG as it entirely relies on 2 sources which is a primary source and I cannot find any RS sites talking about the opera Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 02:06, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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This feels like a violation of WP:NOTNEWSPAPER Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 00:58, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Well, the most RS I can find is Fox News saying it's a fanciful interpretation of events [9] and the usual non-RS [10] trying to push a certain viewpoint, so I don't see notability. Oaktree b (talk) 01:03, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- weak delete feels like NOTNEWS for now, but I've seen a ton of contradictory reporting on this and suspect we will see more coverage (of the coverage most likely). But for now I think we are at delete. Hobit (talk) 01:44, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete run of the mill news story without secondary coverage Traumnovelle (talk) 06:01, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom. This fails WP:NEVENT. voorts (talk/contributions) 06:03, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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A WP:BEFORE did not reveal that the subject meets WP:SIGCOV. PROD was declined. TJMSmith (talk) 01:42, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Promotional. No SIGCOV or GNG met. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 01:48, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Move to draft I support moving the article to draft where it can be incubated and sources that indicated notability are added. There is little coverage for series leed they lauched, Also the article can be rewritten from a more neutral point of viewTesleemah 09:54, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:42, 25 August 2024 (UTC)- I'll take a quick crack at it in about an hour. But if I can't find anything solid then I'll come back and vote for deletion. Dr vulpes (Talk) 03:06, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, Dr vulpes. It's nice to see you back in AFDLand. Liz Read! Talk! 03:56, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I've updated with multiple sources, removed all the unsourced material and any content that I couldn't find proper sources for. This was a fun clean up. Dr vulpes (Talk) 06:59, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'll take a quick crack at it in about an hour. But if I can't find anything solid then I'll come back and vote for deletion. Dr vulpes (Talk) 03:06, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: The article is good enough to pass WP:NBIO. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 02:19, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Graham, Daviess County, Indiana (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
Baker, in passing, calls this a village, but all I can ever seem to find there is the grain business (now owned by Purdue) which sits next to the tracks as far back as I can see. An 1886 history of the county doesn't mention it, though it mentions various people named Graham. I think this is just a rail point. Mangoe (talk) 02:31, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Indiana. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:48, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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- BGR Capital & Trade (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This appears to be a self-promotional article created by the subject, User:BGRCT. -- Beland (talk) 00:28, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Finance and Washington, D.C.. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 01:29, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: This is all I can find [11], but that's about all there is. Sourcing in the article seems routine business coverage, I don't see notability. Oaktree b (talk) 01:06, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: cannot find any RS sites talking about it Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 01:16, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Obvious advertising. User BGRCT made 5 edits to create this in 2009, and never edited again. — Maile (talk) 11:31, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Diplomatic missions in Nicaragua
- Propose deleting Category:Diplomatic missions in Nicaragua ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation. Contains only a single article, the main article List of diplomatic missions in Nicaragua. AusLondonder (talk) 13:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Ice hockey people from Louisiana
- Propose deleting Category:Ice hockey people from Louisiana ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose merging Category:Ice hockey players from Louisiana to Category:Sportspeople from Louisiana
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge and delete respectively, same as Delaware (see below). Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Ice hockey people from Delaware
- Propose merging Category:Ice hockey people from Delaware to Category:Sportspeople from Delaware
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge to Sportspeople from Delaware with no objection to recreation. Only one notable person grew up in Delaware. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
14th- and 16th-century towers
- Propose merging Category:Towers completed in 1310 to Category:Buildings and structures completed in 1310
- Propose merging Category:Towers completed in 1323 to Category:Buildings and structures completed in 1323
- Propose merging Category:Towers completed in 1328 to Category:Buildings and structures completed in 1328
- Propose merging Category:Towers completed in 1348 to Category:Towers completed in the 14th century and Category:Buildings and structures completed in 1348
- Propose merging Category:Towers completed in 1531 to Category:Buildings and structures completed in 1531
- Propose merging Category:Towers completed in 1543 to Category:Buildings and structures completed in 1543
- Propose merging Category:Towers completed in 1544 to Category:Towers completed in the 16th century and Category:Buildings and structures completed in 1544
- Propose merging Category:Towers completed in 1580 to Category:Towers completed in the 16th century and Category:Buildings and structures completed in 1580
- Propose merging Category:Towers completed in 1584 to Category:Towers completed in the 16th century and Category:Towers completed in the 16th century and Category:Buildings and structures completed in 1584
- Propose merging Category:Towers completed in 1594 to Category:Buildings and structures completed in 1594
- Nominator's rationale: merge, these are single-article isolated categories, this is not helpful for navigation. Most categories require only one merge target, namely in case the article is already part of the lighthouses century category. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:49, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:American convicts who became writers
- Propose deleting Category:American convicts who became writers ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining/narrow intersection between occupation, criminal status, and nationality. Mason (talk) 02:50, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. This is a defined genre (or "literary phenomenon") which even has its own WP article; see American prison literature.--NapoliRoma (talk) 03:29, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- The name of the category sounds awkward. What about Category:American prisoner-writers or Category:American prison writers? Marcocapelle (talk) 04:17, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:BBC Micro and Acorn Electron game covers
- Propose deleting Category:BBC Micro and Acorn Electron game covers ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Another WP:XY category redirect which should be deleted. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:25, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:18, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Suicides by carbon monoxide poisoning in South Korea
- Propose deleting Category:Suicides by carbon monoxide poisoning in South Korea ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Another WP:XY category redirect with two targets which should be deleted. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:24, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:19, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Redirects
Eight dash ball
- Eight dash ball → Eight-ball (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Delete. This is the result of an undiscussed move by user:Eight dash ball in July 2020 that was reverted (by Oknazevad) after about 20 mintues later. I don't think this is a useful search term, but if it is then the target should match whatever the consensus of the #8 Ball Pool discussion is below. Thryduulf (talk) 13:24, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
HIALS
- HIALS → Approach lighting system (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
No mention anywhere on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 17:38, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Google tells me this is "High Intensity Approach Lighting System" and I'm surprised it isn't mentioned on the article, so my gut feeling is too add it and keep the redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 20:53, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Note that source 6 in the article mentions ALSF-1 and -2 as high-intensity systems. 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:28, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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Deer cannon
- Deer cannon → Bird scarer (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
results are torn between the propane cannons used to give birds a dang ol spook, and actual deer cannon bones. i haven't found any info on where the name for the cannons came from, but it seems used, albeit not enough to warrant a redirect. any ideas? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:53, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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Kevin Tucker (anarchist)
- Kevin Tucker (anarchist) → Green anarchism#Anarcho-primitivism (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Redirects to an article that does not even mention the subject. Damien Linnane (talk) 02:36, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- This redirect has extensive history - not sure if RFD is the right place for this discussion? Might merit a procedural close and an AFD instead. -- asilvering (talk) 08:42, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Anarcho-primitivism#Adoption and practice. I had added citations for Kevin Tucker and Species Traitor to the discussed Green anarchism#Anarcho-primitivism section in 2021 because I did not think anarcho-primitivism would substantiate its own article. I've restored those citations in the suggested retarget location, where someone searching for the topic would expect to read about Carson and related periodicals. If there is more written on the topic, it can always split out in summary style. czar 14:05, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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Quackifier
- Quackifier → Quake III Arena (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
not that i'm the biggest and oldest quake fan out there, but i haven't found any info on anything in the history ever actually existing with this name. results gave me nothing reliable cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:37, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Revert and send to AfD. This was an article about a bit of software that "modified the OpenGL driver for ATI video cards, to change all references of "quake" to "quack"" to hack some code in the videocard drivers. I can't verify that (the reference is a dead link and google finds only usernames and ChatGPT output, after I insist I don't mean "qualifier"). Even though it's almost certainly not notable I can't find any evidence of the content being discussed and it's not speedy deletable so AfD is the correct venue. Thryduulf (talk) 14:43, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per
it's almost certainly not notable
, and I agree with that assessment. There's no need to take a bureaucratic extra step for something this obvious. -- Tavix (talk) 18:25, 13 August 2024 (UTC) - Delete. The article was redirected in 2008. If the subject is not mentioned anywhere, then this thing should be deleted, considering the existence of an article about the subject of this redirect is a clear WP:NOTGUIDE violation. Steel1943 (talk) 18:30, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- I suspect that an article about this subject that is not a guide could be written quite easily (focus on the technology, the impact of it, reactions to it, any legacy, etc). Whether such an article would meet the GNG is a different question and one that can policy says can only be answered at AfD. Thryduulf (talk) 02:10, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- the answer already seems to be "no", considering how even you found nothing reliable, so what would be the point of this extra step? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:39, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Policy says that articles which don't meet the speedy deletion criteria are discussed at AfD. Ignoring that policy will not benefit the encyclopaedia so IAR doesn't apply (IAR is rarely a good match when it comes to deletion anyway), because AfD gives a full chance for people who evaluate article content to evaluate article content and maximum visibility to those who know the topic area and can find sources. Such people do not tend to watch RfD because it's nearly always not relevant - because RfD discusses redirects not the deletion of article content. Thryduulf (talk) 17:55, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- to be honest, i don't really see how that justifies it. the stub before had one (1) source that doesn't even seem to be primarily about quackifier (couldn't get it to load /_ \), so there's no real point in interrupting the deletion of a pretty unambiguously not very notable redirect in one place so it can be deleted as a pretty unambiguously not notable article. also, where did the "speedy" part come from? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:07, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is a redirect, not an article, so the "policy" that Thryduulf made a vague wave to, if it were to exist, wouldn't apply here. -- Tavix (talk) 23:02, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- This is a disputed BLAR. Disputed BLARs are reverted and sent to AfD for discussion of the article content, as the article content is what is being deleted. Thryduulf (talk) 13:46, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- No it's not. No one is advocating for keeping the article content. Even if there were, WP:BLAR says that if there is a disagreement that
other methods of dispute resolution should be used
. RfD is a method of dispute resolution. -- Tavix (talk) 13:52, 15 August 2024 (UTC)- The redirection is disputed. I am arguing that the content should be restored and discussed as article content according to the policies for deletion of article content. In what way is that not a disputed BLAR? Thryduulf (talk) 14:08, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- In BLAR, the disagreement is between someone who wants to keep the page as an article and someone who wants to blank-and-redirect the article. In order for you to take that position, you must be in favor of keeping the article. You have not taken that position, your argument is purely jurisdictional. Please cite the policy you are appealing to. -- Tavix (talk) 14:18, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- The disagreement is over the status as a redirect. The policy is Wikipedia:Deletion policy:
Pages that do not fall in the above three categories [copyvio, speedy deletion, prod] may be deleted after community discussion at one of the deletion discussion venues
. Deletion venues is linked to: Wikipedia:Deletion processes which states that AfD is for articles and RfD is for redirects. We're dealing with article content hidden by an undiscussed redirect that has been objected to: i.e. a WP:BLAR which statesIf other editors disagree with this blanking, [...] the content issues should be discussed at the relevant talk page, and other methods of dispute resolution should be used, such as restoring the article and nominating the article for Wikipedia:Articles for deletion.
. - Please quote the policy that allows for deletion of articles at RfD. Thryduulf (talk) 18:29, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- The policy is Wikipedia:Deletion policy:
Pages that do not fall in the above three categories [copyvio, speedy deletion, prod] may be deleted after community discussion at one of the deletion discussion venues
. Deletion venues is linked to: Wikipedia:Deletion processes which states that AfD is for articles and RfD is for redirects. This is a redirect. -- Tavix (talk) 18:44, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- The policy is Wikipedia:Deletion policy:
- The disagreement is over the status as a redirect. The policy is Wikipedia:Deletion policy:
- In BLAR, the disagreement is between someone who wants to keep the page as an article and someone who wants to blank-and-redirect the article. In order for you to take that position, you must be in favor of keeping the article. You have not taken that position, your argument is purely jurisdictional. Please cite the policy you are appealing to. -- Tavix (talk) 14:18, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- The redirection is disputed. I am arguing that the content should be restored and discussed as article content according to the policies for deletion of article content. In what way is that not a disputed BLAR? Thryduulf (talk) 14:08, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- No it's not. No one is advocating for keeping the article content. Even if there were, WP:BLAR says that if there is a disagreement that
- This is a disputed BLAR. Disputed BLARs are reverted and sent to AfD for discussion of the article content, as the article content is what is being deleted. Thryduulf (talk) 13:46, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Policy says that articles which don't meet the speedy deletion criteria are discussed at AfD. Ignoring that policy will not benefit the encyclopaedia so IAR doesn't apply (IAR is rarely a good match when it comes to deletion anyway), because AfD gives a full chance for people who evaluate article content to evaluate article content and maximum visibility to those who know the topic area and can find sources. Such people do not tend to watch RfD because it's nearly always not relevant - because RfD discusses redirects not the deletion of article content. Thryduulf (talk) 17:55, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- the answer already seems to be "no", considering how even you found nothing reliable, so what would be the point of this extra step? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:39, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- I suspect that an article about this subject that is not a guide could be written quite easily (focus on the technology, the impact of it, reactions to it, any legacy, etc). Whether such an article would meet the GNG is a different question and one that can policy says can only be answered at AfD. Thryduulf (talk) 02:10, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
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Bodo languages (disambiguation)
- Bodo languages (disambiguation) → Boroic languages (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
The current target Boroic languages is not a disambiguation page, and does not disambiguate "Bodo languages" (because "Bodo languages" (plural) is not ambiguous). Delete (previous G14 declined). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:16, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Brotherhood of Shadow
- Brotherhood of Shadow → Mortal Kombat (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Brothers of the Shadow → Mortal Kombat (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Brotherhood of the Shadow → Mortal Kombat (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Not mentioned in the target article, leaving readers attempting to find information about this topic with no information at this target. However, there are mentions of the phrase "Brotherhood of Shadow" in multiple articles about subtopics of the target, but since it is mentioned in "multiple", it's not clear why any alternative target is preferred over another. Also, Brotherhood of Shadow is a {{R with history}} due to being subject to a WP:BLAR in 2007. Steel1943 (talk) 20:05, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- that's an apparently recurring name for a cult that... honestly, the only real pattern i can see in it is being led by quan chi. it's also the name of an unrelated game series that doesn't seem to have an article. i'd say delete, as pretty much no one cares about this name, and i doubt the games will have their own articles. not even sure ed cared about the cult at the time, since killing reptile took priority
- as for which spelling is right? the list of mortal kombat characters directly mentions and uses... two of them. in passing. and the cult isn't mentioned on quan chi's section at all. i suppose killing reptile took priority over deciding on a name as well cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:24, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
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F. Fitzgerald
- F. Fitzgerald → F. Scott Fitzgerald (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Delete. Or redirect to FitzGerald (surname). jnestorius(talk) 02:35, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Someone entering this title is probably looking for F. Scott Fitzgerald, but the omission doesn't seem to have affinity (AFAICT he was never referred to as "F. Fitzgerald"). If you search for "F. Fitzgerald", F. Scott Fitzgerald is the first result, so the redirect doesn't have much navigational value either. jlwoodwa (talk) 06:11, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Kablammo (talk) 09:25, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Very clearly the primary topic, and there are hatnotes to others who might be searched for. Thryduulf (talk) 10:40, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Very clearly not the primary topic in Ireland, where the name FitzGerald originates. There is currently no hatnote for F. Fitzgerald on the F. Scott Fitzgerald article. One would need to add F. Fitzgerald (disambiguation) as a redirect to Fitzgerald (surname)#F in order to pick up Fern Fitzgerald and Frances FitzGerald (disambiguation). I would oppose any such hatnote as it would clutter the article and invite the inference that "F. Fitzgerald" is a reasonably common way to refer to "F. Scott Fitzgerald" as opposed to a very rare way. jnestorius(talk) 21:58, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Thruduulf. It does not lack affinity, by the way, as excluding a middle name is a reasonable thing to do in many cases. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 21:41, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm confused. Isn't "this modification could just as well apply to a vast number of other titles" the definition of "lacks affinity"? jlwoodwa (talk) 04:42, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Jlwoodwa: Affinity applies to things like a period at the end of a title, being in quotes, etc. In other words, an error that could apply to almost absolutely any title. A title without a middle name only applies to names, and furthermore only names including a middle name. It is always reasonable to leave out a middle name for a redirect, as long as there is no ambiguity in what's covered (or there is a primary topic as in this case). I would support that every single time. I would not support every single title having a redirect from that title in quotes or with a full stop at the end and so forth. Affinity is in regard to much broader variants, not specific ones like this. This situation clearly does not apply to every title (or a vastly broad enough swath of titles). Even if it did, it would still be appropriate all the time, rendering affinity double moot. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 09:20, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm confused. Isn't "this modification could just as well apply to a vast number of other titles" the definition of "lacks affinity"? jlwoodwa (talk) 04:42, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Does seem to be occasionally used in product listings and non-RS. If there were usage of the term to refer to anyone else, that low-quality usage wouldn't be weighted very strongly, but the only search results I see are spurious ones about John F. Fitzgerald. (The sources still write out the entirety of "John F. Fitzgerald"; Google just includes them because the substring matches.) Limited usage trumps no usage, so keep. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe) 22:18, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Autogenerated listings and poorly copyedited self-publishing? I don't think is persuasive evidence that real humans are using the term other than as a slip. The term is too ambiguous to prioritise autocorrecting a slip. jnestorius(talk) 22:04, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Are there other instances of anyone else being called "F. Fitzgerald"? -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe) 02:00, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- "Ms F. Fitzgerald", references to Frances Fitzgerald (politician) in Dáil proceedings jnestorius(talk) 15:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Are there other instances of anyone else being called "F. Fitzgerald"? -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe) 02:00, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Autogenerated listings and poorly copyedited self-publishing? I don't think is persuasive evidence that real humans are using the term other than as a slip. The term is too ambiguous to prioritise autocorrecting a slip. jnestorius(talk) 22:04, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- I have added Fionn Fitzgerald (born 1990), Irish football player, to the surname page. BD2412 T 21:58, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Retarget to Fitzgerald (surname) per nom. Multiple Fitzgeralds with 'F' firstnames. Jay 💬 10:15, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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Paris Olympics
- Paris Olympics → 2024 Summer Olympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Paris Olympic Games → 2024 Summer Olympics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
The Olympics are over now. Disambiguate. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 23:57, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nomination. Los Angeles Olympics would be the same after the 2028 Games conclude. Ahri Boy (talk) 02:09, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support: per nom. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 02:38, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support: as per nom. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 • [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 04:34, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Paris hosting the Olympic Games. -- Tavix (talk) 14:25, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget per Tavix (though that article's lead is somewhat poorly written). 1234qwer1234qwer4 15:35, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support disambiguation per nom. Merge Paris hosting the Olympic Games into its respective articles; there is nothing in common between 1900 & 1924 and 2024 except the city. It doesn't warrant an article. IntGrah (talk) 15:44, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- If so, just revert the recent change of Paris Olympics to Paris hosting the Olympic Games and revert to this version. -- Tavix (talk) 18:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support this – IntGrah (talk) 14:30, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- If so, just revert the recent change of Paris Olympics to Paris hosting the Olympic Games and revert to this version. -- Tavix (talk) 18:23, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support disambiguation of Paris Olympics per the nomination and prior discussion. There is strong precedent with Los Angeles Olympics, Salt Lake City Olympics, Lake Placid Olympics, Beijing Olympics, Innsbruck Olympics, Tokyo Olympics, etc. However, the ambiguous term Paris Olympic Games should not redirect to the 2024 instance, but rather to the Paris Olympics disambiguation, effectively restoring the prior redirect there. (A bot recently "fixed" the double-redirect there that would not have existed in the first place if Paris Olympics had been a proper WP:DAB from the start, in line with precedent.) --Tim Parenti (talk) 17:58, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to disambiguation page - Since Paris has hosted three Olympiads, it should be a dab between the three. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 18:17, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Disambiguate by restoring this version and moving it back to Paris Olympics, as suggested by Tavix. Rosbif73 (talk) 07:04, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for finding this old version. I hadn't realized that Paris Olympics had been a proper disambiguation page at some point in the past, so your proposal is now my preferred mechanism for its restoration. --Tim Parenti (talk) 18:25, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Make into a dis-ambiguation page the same way it was done successfully with London Olympics. Georgia guy (talk) 11:14, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Paris hosting the Olympic Games which is a broad-concept article and is the disambiguation page. Disambiguation pages should not duplicate BCAs unless there are additional meanings. C F A 💬 02:16, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- As has been pointed out above, Paris hosting the Olympic Games once was a disambiguation page in this old version, before an attempt was made to convert it into an article. However, nothing that is said in any of its sections is not already said (or could not easily be said) in the corresponding article, typically in the lede. Because it merely duplicates the articles it references, it has gone out-of-date in several places — most obviously the over-detailed 2024 section, but also, e.g., updates to the number of athletes who participated in 1900. As it does nothing to actually cover the "relationship between a wide range of related concepts", it is not a proper WP:BCA and is simply duplicative where a WP:DAB would do. --Tim Parenti (talk) 02:47, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think the article just needs to be cleaned up. This is a reasonable topic for a broad-concept article. C F A 💬 16:00, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- As has been pointed out above, Paris hosting the Olympic Games once was a disambiguation page in this old version, before an attempt was made to convert it into an article. However, nothing that is said in any of its sections is not already said (or could not easily be said) in the corresponding article, typically in the lede. Because it merely duplicates the articles it references, it has gone out-of-date in several places — most obviously the over-detailed 2024 section, but also, e.g., updates to the number of athletes who participated in 1900. As it does nothing to actually cover the "relationship between a wide range of related concepts", it is not a proper WP:BCA and is simply duplicative where a WP:DAB would do. --Tim Parenti (talk) 02:47, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Support DAB per nom, like the discussion at London Olympics, the Paris hosting the Olympic Games should be merged with their articles, and converted/redirected to a DAB. DankJae 18:14, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Paris hosting the Olympic Games per CFA. If there is concern with that page, list at AfD / restore disambiguated version / add merge tags. Jay 💬 10:41, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Disambiguate or retarget?
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Lauren Sturtevant
- Lauren Sturtevant → Lauren Parsekian (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Not mentioned at target page -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:24, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Presumably there because it was her husband's legal surname (and apparently hers) until he changed it in 2022. A linked article says that she planned to change hers in the near future (but not that she had). All of which should probably be said in the article, even though it isn't. But that's not a a reason to delete a plausible search term; it's a reason to re-add information that was probably deleted unhelpfully a couple of years ago, with an explanation. P Aculeius (talk) 12:06, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Jim Dumps
The redirect makes no sense. GMH Melbourne (talk) 09:19, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- It should probably redirect to Force (cereal) now that I think about it. that article actually mentions "Jim Dumps". ―Howard • 🌽33 09:44, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
8 Ball Pool
- 8 Ball Pool → Miniclip (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- 8 ball pool → Eight-ball pool (British variation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- 8-ball → Eight-ball (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- 8-ball pool → Eight-ball (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- 8ball → Eight-ball (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- 8Ball → Eight-ball (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Eightball → Eight-ball (disambiguation) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Eight ball → Eight-ball (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Eight Ball → Eight-ball (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
The game is related to the destination, but is better to be directed to 8 Pool and 8 Ball Pool (British variation). 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
08:59, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note I've added a
seveneight more redirects to this discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 13:07, 1 September 2024 (UTC) - Retarget to Eight-ball or Eight-ball (disambiguation). This is a mess, especially as Eightball pool is a disambiguation page that is just a subset of [[Eight-ball (disambiguation)}}. All should point to the same place, I'm equally happy with the American game (if that is really the primary topic, I've not checked) or the disambiguation page. Thryduulf (talk) 13:07, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Zhujianbu
- Zhujianbu → Ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
not mentioned at target -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:47, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Zhujianbu is in fact the common abbreviation for the ministry, see its dictionary deffinition - 住建部Zhujianbu Easy to add that into the article which needs expanding. Hzh (talk) 09:10, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Bovinaephagia
- Bovinaephagia → Beef (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Unrecognised term. Zero hits on google for this phrase and google translate doesn't detect it in another language. Closest match is Bovinophobia, although there is enough variation that I wouldn't consider it a plausible miss-spelling. Bungle (talk • contribs) 08:46, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Presumably it's somebody's attempt to coin a term meaning "beef-eating", so it's not equivalent to "bovinophobia" (fear of cows). However, it's macaronic, malformed, and doesn't seem to exist in the real world. -phagia (a Greek suffix) is used almost exclusively in scientific literature to refer to diseases, mental disorders, or paraphilias involving the consuming of things, so it could be someone's attempt to say that the eating of beef is unnatural. If it existed, it would probably be "bovino-" (a Latin prefix, hence macaronic, but then so is "bovinophobia"—which isn't in Wiktionary), but for some reason the creator grafted a feminine ending onto it. Since the word has no real-world existence, it's not a plausible search term. P Aculeius (talk) 11:57, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Tom Ealham
- Tom Ealham → List of Surrey County Cricket Club players (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
not mentioned at target -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:14, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Tuar
- Tuar → List of Gurjar clans (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
not mentioned at target -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:10, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Yuvraj Samra
- Yuvraj Samra → List of Canada ODI cricketers (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
not mentioned at target -MPGuy2824 (talk) 08:08, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Yes Weekend!
- Yes Weekend! → List of Kapamilya Channel original programming (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
no mention at target -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Muhajir Province
- Muhajir Province → Karachi Division (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
No mention in target page. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:08, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
2031 NCAA Division I women's basketball tournament
- 2031 NCAA Division I women's basketball tournament → NCAA Division I women's basketball tournament (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
The men's tournament is scheduled to be there. I'm happy to withdraw if it is shown that the women's tournament is also set in the same place. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:40, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Ethan Herisse
- Ethan Herisse → When They See Us#Cast and characters (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Now star of Nickel Boys, among other credits. Nardog (talk) 04:11, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Xwitter
I deleted this as an WP:R3 but the page creator objected. I don't want to abuse my tools so I have undeleted it. It's possible I was too hasty here and if so, I apologize. A similar redirect exists at Xitter (which was created last year instead of recently and thus would not qualify as an R3). Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 03:18, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, not a typo, but rather a neologism created by those who, not wanting to deadname Twitter, don't feel comfortable enough calling it simply X. Google shows it's somewhat used, and per WP:CHEAP I suggest it be kept. RodRabelo7 (talk) 03:31, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @RodRabelo7: Could you prove it's well used? My results were "did you mean twitter?" and a subreddit with four members. This term is also not mentioned in the article at all. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 03:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Examples: 1, 2. Both reliable sources. RodRabelo7 (talk) 03:51, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- The first is an opinion piece and a few sentences with the term in the title (I do not understand Portuguese so I suppose it's possible it says something about the usage of the term itself). The second is a paywalled source that I can't read (which is fine and not required). If I'm understanding a translated version of the title correctly and it's a reliable source about the term, could you please add a sentence somewhere to Twitter and cite this? WP:RDEL #8 is my remaining concern but if it's mentioned somewhere in the article then I no longer care. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 04:01, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- for better or worse, i understand portuguese, and... they say nothing of note. hell, they don't even attempt to prove that the term "xwitter" is actually used anywhere besides those headlines. i've seen "xitter" used more times than this, which is to say thrice cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 04:16, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Please explain "for better or worse". RodRabelo7 (talk) 04:30, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- it would betray a surprisingly long-standing joke of implying that the existence of brazil is a collective hallucination and/or government conspiracy, despite being stuck in the bloody place myself. no strong opinions on portugal and its variant of portuguese though cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 04:48, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Please explain "for better or worse". RodRabelo7 (talk) 04:30, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- for better or worse, i understand portuguese, and... they say nothing of note. hell, they don't even attempt to prove that the term "xwitter" is actually used anywhere besides those headlines. i've seen "xitter" used more times than this, which is to say thrice cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 04:16, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- The first is an opinion piece and a few sentences with the term in the title (I do not understand Portuguese so I suppose it's possible it says something about the usage of the term itself). The second is a paywalled source that I can't read (which is fine and not required). If I'm understanding a translated version of the title correctly and it's a reliable source about the term, could you please add a sentence somewhere to Twitter and cite this? WP:RDEL #8 is my remaining concern but if it's mentioned somewhere in the article then I no longer care. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 04:01, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Examples: 1, 2. Both reliable sources. RodRabelo7 (talk) 03:51, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @RodRabelo7: Could you prove it's well used? My results were "did you mean twitter?" and a subreddit with four members. This term is also not mentioned in the article at all. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 03:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- delete per my comment above cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 04:18, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - no page views to show usage. Noah, BSBATalk 08:34, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I can see the term being used - [12][13] [14][15] Hzh (talk) 09:35, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per evidence provided by Hzh. Ca talk to me! 12:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per evidence of use. Thryduulf (talk) 13:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Making Strides Against Breast Cancer
- Making Strides Against Breast Cancer → American Cancer Society (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Not mentioned at target, though it might be worth being (the target is currently included in Category:Breast cancer organizations without ever mentioning breast cancer). Otherwise, only passing mentions on the English Wikipedia. 1234qwer1234qwer4 02:02, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Colleges Against Cancer
- Colleges Against Cancer → American Cancer Society (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Not mentioned at target, but occurs in the lead of American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network (from where it is also linked though). 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:59, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Jazz Jackrabbit 2 Facts
- Jazz Jackrabbit 2 Facts → Jazz Jackrabbit 2 (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
As per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 31#Volcanoe facts. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:56, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Isle of White Facts
- Isle of White Facts → Isle of Wight (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
As per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 31#Volcanoe facts (this one also contains a misspelling); none of the original page contents have been merged into the target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:55, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Wasp facts
- Wasp facts → Wasp (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
As per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 31#Volcanoe facts; reverted page move leftover. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:54, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, not a plausible search term. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:31, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Girlfriend hoax
- Girlfriend hoax → Manti Te'o#Catfishing incident (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
This could refer to so many other stories. Incredibly vague redirect. Delete. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 01:47, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- uh... weak retarget to bride scam or possibly catfishing? delete otherwise cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 04:28, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Math facts
- Math facts → Mathematics (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Poseidon facts → Poseidon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Iodine facts → Iodine (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
- Lion dance facts → Lion dance (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
As per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 31#Volcanoe facts. Page histories of the targets show that none of the ancient duplicate page creations have been merged anywhere. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:46, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- I feel that "Math facts" is not like the others. Web-julio (talk) 03:20, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- delete all per "i think this would be considered trivia", weak delete math facts, clump the rest of the "facts" noms together if that isn't currently in the process of being done cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 04:21, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- The nominations are all somewhat different with regard to the page histories of the respective redirects. 1234qwer1234qwer4 13:12, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- delete all per "i think this would be considered trivia", weak delete math facts, clump the rest of the "facts" noms together if that isn't currently in the process of being done cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 04:21, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete all as improbable search terms that don't seem to have any significant history as independent articles. Readers would be better served by not finding confusing titles along with plausible ones. P Aculeius (talk) 12:13, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Facts on Dallas, TX
- Facts on Dallas, TX → Dallas (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
As per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2009 December 27#Information about Stitch's cousins and Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 31#Volcanoe facts. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Oasis Facts
- Oasis Facts → Oasis (band) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
As per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 31#Volcanoe facts; also currently does not refer unambiguously to the band. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:42, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Dragon facts
- Dragon facts → Dragon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
As per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 31#Volcanoe facts. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dragon facts decided to redirect though deletion was equally possible. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:41, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as an improbable search term. This article existed for less than a day fourteen years ago, and seemed to be a junior-high first-person narrative of someone's understanding of a specific (but unidentified) fictional universe's dragons. Anyone looking for information about dragons would be better off without this in the list of possible search terms while typing "dragon". P Aculeius (talk) 11:43, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Interesting facts
- Interesting facts → Information overload (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
This just seems confusing to me. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:33, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- see talk page, retarget to ani (optional), and then delete cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 04:25, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Facing the facts
- Facing the facts → BPDFamily.com (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Not mentioned at target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:27, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Cancer Facts and Figures
- Cancer Facts and Figures → American Cancer Society (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Not mentioned at target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 01:24, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Pg (elliptic function)
- Pg (elliptic function) → Jacobi elliptic functions#pg (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Target mentions no "pg". 1234qwer1234qwer4 00:54, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Wiimake
- Wiimake → Video game remake (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: //delete ]
Neologism not mentioned in the target. The term is not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. Mia Mahey (talk) 05:40, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- I can see it (and the alternate "Wii-make") being used in some news coverage, most prominently "The Case for Wiimakes", but not nearly enough that it would demand usage in the target article or anything. Not sure it does any harm, but the use case seems limited as well. I guess I lean toward deletion, but not strongly. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 14:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- i would ALMOST suggest retargeting to the vaguely klonoa-shaped travesty we were cursed with in 2008 as a half-joke, as that seems to be the primary topic for the entire term (not for a good reason, mind you), but that'd be cheap. as is, no idea if it would be better to retarget it to some list of wii games, add a mention there, or delete, but i'll stick with adding a mention for now cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:35, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: term is mentioned in reliable sources (Nintendo Life, Wired, eurogamer.net). No reason to delete. Obviously not notable on its own but a redirect is warranted. I would support a mention at Video game remake or elsewhere, but that is not needed for this to be kept. C F A 💬 20:13, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Nintendo Wii and mention the phenomenon somewhere. It's an actual slang term formerly used for porting games to Wii while adding motion controls. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:36, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Delete unless a mention is added. If we don't have it, we don't have it. Don't leave readers scratching their heads trying to figure out why they arrived to any article which does not mention the term. Steel1943 (talk) 18:54, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Note that Wii Remakes redirects to New Play Control!. Jay 💬 16:12, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist
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Templates and Modules
- Template:Liberal Democrats London mayoral selection, 2015 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Hardly a useful navbox, with only two of six items linked to existing articles. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 01:13, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
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- Template:Fisheries scientists (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Delete. I find this template strange as this seems to be what categories are for. The navbox has no context and mixes scientist from the 1800s, 1900s and 2000s. I would also assume that there must be a lot more notable fisheries scientists than just these; adding them all would make the navbox difficult to navigate. Geschichte (talk) 08:32, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Template:Import style/sticky2.css (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Not used and, according to the comments and edit summaries, doesn't work and can be deleted. Jroberson108 (talk) 06:47, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes please go ahead and delete it. Ergzay (talk) 10:04, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Miscellany
- User:Ygarrix/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
WP:COPIES, from Star Wars opening crawl. Paradoctor (talk) 11:28, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- User:Jfordbaer/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
WP:COPIES, taken from List of You're the Worst episodes. Paradoctor (talk) 10:21, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- User:Yudkoff.c/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
WP:COPIES Paradoctor (talk) 09:08, 1 September 2024 (UTC)