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Religion
I was curious about the religious affiliations of a few enlightenment scientists, and while they were all laid out in their biographies none of them there included in the infoboxes.
A fair number of other infoboxes include religion as an option, would anyone object if I added it to this infobox? Juno (talk) 23:44, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
- see prior discussions. Frietjes (talk) 18:44, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
- If it's important to show the subject's religion, use {{Infobox person}}, and embed this template as a module. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:34, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
I see a couple of different discussions, most ending in different ways. Can we put it back so that the field wouldn't have to be added in future articles? Juno (talk) 09:01, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Agree Plz check Marie Curie (religion = none) reference : http://www.staff.amu.edu.pl/~zbzw/ph/sci/msc.htm : Pierre belonged to no religion and I did not practice any. I don't think {{Infobox person}} to be applicable. --IranianNationalist (talk) 20:08, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
- Other than a possible and mistaken belief that Curie was not a person, I can't see why. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:08, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- I was trying to say "I guess", not "I believe" (Sorry, my bad in English). Each scientist is a person but it doesn't mean each person to be a scientist. There are some special attributes like Institutions a scientist has worked there which is different from Education. I don't guess sportsmen to work in the scientific institutions but both of them are person. I'm not sure about a scientist to work in a governmental office however (s)he may be a minister of science and education. However in "some countries" I know many people work in different unrelated positions.
Whether we want to merge scientist and person templates or not, anyway there is one common question : Having a Religion in the Infobox scientist, Why not?
As a web developer and DB designer I am, if I was familiar to wiki technical issues I would like to have a hierarchical structure of templates to extend scientist from person template or even a combinable mode of scientist and chairman to be able to present a mixed person. I think an OOP mode will be better than having a massive template like person having a vast set of attributes. --IranianNationalist (talk) 16:42, 9 April 2015 (UTC)- Does this satisfy you? Alakzi (talk) 16:55, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Done Ow That's right. Thank you. My problem was the absent of "Working Institutions" parameter in the guidance Template:Infobox person and its source code. But it works well, like something expandable number of parameters or attachable components. Thank you. I learnt a lot and must learn more :) --IranianNationalist (talk) 19:03, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- Does this satisfy you? Alakzi (talk) 16:55, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- I was trying to say "I guess", not "I believe" (Sorry, my bad in English). Each scientist is a person but it doesn't mean each person to be a scientist. There are some special attributes like Institutions a scientist has worked there which is different from Education. I don't guess sportsmen to work in the scientific institutions but both of them are person. I'm not sure about a scientist to work in a governmental office however (s)he may be a minister of science and education. However in "some countries" I know many people work in different unrelated positions.
- Other than a possible and mistaken belief that Curie was not a person, I can't see why. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:08, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
doctoral students
Is it fine to just include Arabic Numbers in the Parameter of doctoral students if none of them are notable to have their wikipedia articles?
For example (A).
| doctoral_students = 10
Is it fine?
For example (B).
Nancy Rothwell infobox
| doctoral_students = {{Plainlist|
- (~50 in total)
The last line says '50 in total'. Is it fine?
223.176.165.184 (talk) 14:54, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
- Personally, I would say that it is only for notable doctoral students, usually those with their own wikipedia page (though feel free to red link a name if you believe they are notable enough to have a wikipedia page). Therefore, it should be a list of named individuals. See also the parameter | notable_students = which produces Other notable students in the finished infobox.
- The total of doctoral students supervised is interesting and relevant information. So by all means, add the number of doctoral students to the main body of the article. Don't forget that info added to WP:BLP articles needs to be well referenced.
- The example you give of Nancy Rothwell is unusual. I don't see the notability of any of the doctoral students listed in her infobox. Infoboxes are not meant to be a collection of every little bit of information; they are highlights. To me, it looks as if people may have been adding themselves (as her doctoral students) to the infobox.
- I hope this helps clear things up. Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk 21:20, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Collaborators field?
Infobox scientist doesn't allow us to mention collaborators. For instance, at Albert Einstein, his "notable students" were called in the Infobox Rosen, Straus, Szilard. But they didn't formally study with him, they published etc. with him. Einstein didn't want teaching etc. obligations. (Pais: Subtle is the Lord, gives an overview of his collaborations.) I put them in the field "Influenced" which is no good either.
- So could someone add a field Collaborator to the Template:Infobox scientist plus documentation? I am not allowed to.
Thanks, regards, Hansmuller (talk) 14:07, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- Just my thoughts (am not an admin or editor of this template): This type of information is more appropriate in the body of the article, not the infobox. Any given scientist could have dozens of notable collaborators, and listing all or any in the infobox is probably not warranted. Remember, an infobox is supposed to succinctly summarize the major aspects of a person's life, not shoehorn data just because it exists. --Animalparty! (talk) 21:49, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Scientists Don't Have Parents?
Is it really true that scientists don't have parents? Not even Eve Curie? Garfield Garfield (talk) 02:11, 3 September 2015 (UTC)