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Contents
- 1 Nelly Furtado
- 2 Arb case request
- 3 Talk:Finally (CeCe Peniston song)#Request for comment
- 4 Kww and The Rambling Man Arbitration Case Opening
- 5 List of best-selling music artists
- 6 You've got mail!
- 7 Selena Gomez's "associated act"
- 8 Kww and The Rambling Man arbitration evidence phase closing soon
- 9 Arbitration proposed decision
- 10 MfD nomination of MediaWiki:Talk-page restricted
- 11 Anonpediann
- 12 Time for a vacation?
- 13 Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kww and The Rambling Man closed
- 14 STARKILLERS
- 15 ARCA notice
- 16 Notice
- 17 Standard Offer unblock request for Technophant
- 18 Mate
Nelly Furtado
Nelly Furtado has a portuguese passport, she said it in an interview to The Independent in 6 March 2004 (she was interview by Aoife O'Riordain), but The Independent has erased that interview probably because it was done more than 10 years ago (the interview was located here: http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news_and_advice/story.jsp?story=498282). What you call a fansite is a forum where the interview was "copy pasted". I don't know why you guys are trying so hard to hide the fact that Nelly has portuguese citizenship, but that's a fact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blockmaker00 (talk • contribs) 15:18, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
But I found that source! The Independent (UK) 6 March 2004, Nelly Furtado interview by Aoife O'Riordain. Title of the interview: «My Life in Travel: Nelly Furtado.» Blockmaker00 (talk) 15:32, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
There was an interview in a portuguese magazine in 11 November 2006 (Revista Única), where the journalist ask: "Do you feel more canadian or portuguese?" And Nelly say: "I have a Canadian and a Portuguese passport, but I feel more Portuguese because of my roots." Check http://nellyfurtado-ninhas.blogspot.pt/2008/02/revista-nica-portugal-2006.html and you will find a photo from the pages and the title "I feel more portuguese". That sentence is mencioned all over the net (google "Nelly furtado" and "passaporte português"). Wikipedia should be a place for facts, but that's not the case. Shame on you.Blockmaker00 (talk) 16:09, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
Well, it seems I found AGAIN that Nelly Furtado is Portuguese. In the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCqT2PIsDzo (@01:55 - an interview to a brazilian program), Nelly say: "Sou canadiana, mas portuguesa também. A minha alma e o meu coração são portugueses". Let me translate it for you: "I'm canadian, but also portuguese. My heart and my soul are portuguese." That's a primary source, don't you think? Will you change the article to Portuguese-Canadian or do you want me to do it? Blockmaker00 (talk) 19:18, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- I will need to evaluate the YouTube video later, Blockmaker00: I cannot access YouTube from work.—Kww(talk) 19:35, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- No problem. Take a look at this video too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYGKj3WPhQk. It's an interview to a mexican program. Nelly say @02:30: «Yo me siento hispanica y latina también, porqué yo soy portuguesa». In english: «I feel hispanic and latin also, because I am portuguese». I will continue to look for more videos, but I think we have the evidence we need in these two (Nelly say she is portuguese in 2 different languages). Blockmaker00 (talk) 19:43, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- Another one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB38fLBZc8I (portuguese program). @02:38 Nelly say: «Descobri a música mais moderna de Portugal. Música que vinha de Lisboa: Pedro Abrunhosa, Santos e Pecadores, Madredeus... Coisas que me faziam sentir orgulhosa de ser portuguesa. Fiquei ainda mais orgulhosa de ser portuguesa.» In english: «I discovered the portuguese modern music. Music from Lisbon: Pedro Abrunhosa, Santos e Pecadores, Madredeus... Things that made me feel proud of being Portuguese. I felt even more proud of being portuguese». Blockmaker00 (talk) 19:52, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- You don't need to see the other videos. See this one in english: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ezIHQ0pkTE. @01:25, Nelly is asked: «You are not spanish, right?». And then, the answer: «No. I'm actually PORTUGUESE-CANADIAN....» Not a fansite, not a blog: the truth from her own mouth. Blockmaker00 (talk) 20:40, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- I'll have to see a video that isn't a copyright violation, Blockmaker00. None of those are authorised copies.—Kww(talk) 22:18, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- I don't know if I can find one video that isn't a copyright violation. But I will try. At least, now you know the facts: she is portuguese and she said it dozens of times in newspappers, magazines and TV shows. It's really sad to see «is a Canadian singer» in the Wiki page after hearing Nelly say repeatedly she's portuguese-canadian... Blockmaker00 (talk) 22:42, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- I'll have to see a video that isn't a copyright violation, Blockmaker00. None of those are authorised copies.—Kww(talk) 22:18, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- You don't need to see the other videos. See this one in english: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ezIHQ0pkTE. @01:25, Nelly is asked: «You are not spanish, right?». And then, the answer: «No. I'm actually PORTUGUESE-CANADIAN....» Not a fansite, not a blog: the truth from her own mouth. Blockmaker00 (talk) 20:40, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- Another one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB38fLBZc8I (portuguese program). @02:38 Nelly say: «Descobri a música mais moderna de Portugal. Música que vinha de Lisboa: Pedro Abrunhosa, Santos e Pecadores, Madredeus... Coisas que me faziam sentir orgulhosa de ser portuguesa. Fiquei ainda mais orgulhosa de ser portuguesa.» In english: «I discovered the portuguese modern music. Music from Lisbon: Pedro Abrunhosa, Santos e Pecadores, Madredeus... Things that made me feel proud of being Portuguese. I felt even more proud of being portuguese». Blockmaker00 (talk) 19:52, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
- No problem. Take a look at this video too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYGKj3WPhQk. It's an interview to a mexican program. Nelly say @02:30: «Yo me siento hispanica y latina también, porqué yo soy portuguesa». In english: «I feel hispanic and latin also, because I am portuguese». I will continue to look for more videos, but I think we have the evidence we need in these two (Nelly say she is portuguese in 2 different languages). Blockmaker00 (talk) 19:43, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
Arb case request
You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Kww and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. As threaded discussion is not permitted in most arbitration pages please ensure that you make all comments in your own section only. Additionally, the guide to arbitration and the Arbitration Committee's procedures may be of use.
Thanks, Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 16:39, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Talk:Finally (CeCe Peniston song)#Request for comment
You were one of editors of the article. I invite you to an RFC discussion. --George Ho (talk) 19:38, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
Kww and The Rambling Man Arbitration Case Opening
You were recently listed as a party to a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kww and The Rambling Man. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kww and The Rambling Man/Evidence. Please add your evidence by July 13, 2015, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kww and The Rambling Man/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Liz Read! Talk! 18:16, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
- However the case ends, do know that you've definitely had a positive impact on Wikipedia overall. Snuggums (talk / edits) 06:14, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
List of best-selling music artists
- List of best-selling music artists ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Please can you unprotect that page. You protected it about 3 months ago; there's no indications that it still needs protection now. Thanks. 88.104.25.154 (talk) 20:51, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
- Actually, that page has been protected for years, and can't seem to survive unprotected. What you see in the log is me moving it back to semi-protected after a brief period of full protection. So, sorry, won't be doing that any time soon.—Kww(talk) 21:03, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
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Selena Gomez's "associated act"
- It's for long-term relationships with multiple collaborations. See Template:Infobox musical artist#associated_acts for an expansion, Justasaddream.—Kww(talk) 15:55, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
Kww and The Rambling Man arbitration evidence phase closing soon
As a listed party to this case, this is a notification that the evidence phase of this case is closing soon on 13 July. If you have additional evidence that you wish to introduce for consideration, it must be entered before this date. On behalf of the committee, Liz Read! Talk! 17:54, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
- Kww, I'm really sorry that much of the input at arbitration has favored you losing the mop. Hoping that doesn't happen. Not sure what you'll do if you become desysopped, but I wish you all the best for the future, and definitely don't think you've been as bad of an admin as some users seem to suggest. Snuggums (talk / edits) 05:42, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
Arbitration proposed decision
Hi Kww, in the open Kww and The Rambling Man arbitration case, a remedy or finding of fact has been proposed which relates to you. Please review this decision and draw the arbitrators' attention to any relevant material or statements. Comments may be brought to the attention of the committee on the proposed decision talk page. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 03:02, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
MfD nomination of MediaWiki:Talk-page restricted
MediaWiki:Talk-page restricted, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/MediaWiki:Talk-page restricted and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of MediaWiki:Talk-page restricted during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Kharkiv07 (T) 03:39, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Anonpediann
Hi Kww, I think you're aware of Anonpediann although I thought I'd bring him up anyway. He's got a retired sticker on his talk page, yet he's going through talk pages and removing comments like here. I'm surmising that he is removing them because he believes they are his (I note that User:Justasaddream redirects to his user page), but this is obviously disruptive if other people have responded to them. Thoughts? I'm a little confused by this scenario. I think that maybe he was signing comments as Justasaddream even though that account didn't exist? I found a proper name change request from Urjustaghost --> Anonpediann so that one is clear to me. I'm still warming up to my newly "earned" admin tools. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:59, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
- Rewarn, revert, and block if it repeats.—Kww(talk) 16:11, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Time for a vacation?
When was the last time you were on Bonaire? Atsme📞📧 00:41, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
- This spring. Believe me, I'd love to be able to just move back home.—Kww(talk) 00:49, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kww and The Rambling Man closed
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:
- Kww (talk · contribs)'s administrator permissions are revoked. He may regain the tools at any time through a successful request for adminship
- Kww (talk · contribs)'s edit filter manager permission is revoked. He may only regain them as follows: If he is desysopped as a result of this case, and is later successful at regaining the administrator tools through a successful request for adminship, this restriction will automatically expire. If he is not desysopped as a result of this case, he may appeal this remedy after 12 months to the Arbitration Committee.
- The community is encouraged to establish a policy or guideline for the use of edit filters, and a process by which existing and proposed edit filters may be judged against these.
For the Arbitration Committee, Liz Read! Talk! 14:37, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard#Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Kww and The Rambling Man closed
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The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | |
For defending the verifiability policy, even at personal cost. Reyk YO! 15:38, 3 August 2015 (UTC) |
- Kevin, I am sorry to see this. Setting aside all the disputes and disagreements you and I have had, I'm sorry. Drmies (talk) 17:13, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- I too am very sad to see this. --John (talk) 18:56, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- So am I. You will be missed. Snuggums (talk / edits) 19:02, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- Missed, SNUGGUMS? Kww hasn't left, has he? But I'm very sorry to see the result of the case. Kww, even though I've sometimes felt your style was a bit like that of a steamroller, I admire your work. Few people have done as much as you for the site, and I will certainly support any time you want to go for a new RFA. Bishonen | talk 19:38, 3 August 2015 (UTC).
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- He stated in this edit he's not going to be very active anymore, Bishonen. Snuggums (talk / edits) 21:29, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- I doubt I will be very active from this point on. I've always been frustrated by Arbcom's ability to miss the point of every case set before it, and this case was no different. I view this as an extension of our Eric Corbett problem: once an editor is popular enough, the blowback from a block is hazardous. It was somewhat entertaining watching Arbcom try to distinguish the BLP violations TRM was blocked over from other BLP violations, try to rewrite WP:V and WP:BLP to justify their position, fail to do so, and still find that blocking TRM was so unjustifiable that I required a desysop. An edit filter that allowed an IP to talk about his edits rather than simply blocking him was some nefarious scheme of mine to avoid scrutiny? A failed experiment, certainly, but hardly a nefarious scheme. An edit filter that prevented the addition of completely unsourced tables to awards articles was so problematic as to warrant a desysop? Not in any universe that takes WP:V seriously.—Kww(talk) 21:34, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
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- You definitely shouldn't have lost your mop, I'll say that now. Very few other editors I know of are quite as attentive to sourcing. Snuggums (talk / edits) 21:39, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
- I second that. KoshVorlon We are all Kosh 15:26, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'm very sorry about this. You've done a lot for the project, and the bravery I've seen in standing up to malign folk should earn you plaudits, not this. I've long since given up on ArbCom as something necessary for the project I hope you stay. I understand if you do not. In any event you have my great respect and gratitude.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:01, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
- I also think it's disappointing that you were desysopped and I think it's a shame that you're scaling back your time here. I can't think of a more productive, effective and efficient admin in the music articles than you, Kww; it won't be easy for others to fill in for the work that you've done. Acalamari 13:09, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- I am shocked and dismayed by this news. Although I am not involved in this dispute, I wish to echo the sentiments of Acalamari and others. I have come to consider you the MAIN MAN when it comes to music articles and have learned much from observing your edits and project activities. One thing that I remember learning from you particularly is that Bubbling Under charts are not true extensions of their parent charts, as songs cannot fall back through the BU positions after the song has been on the parent chart.—Iknow23 (talk) 22:34, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- I also think it's disappointing that you were desysopped and I think it's a shame that you're scaling back your time here. I can't think of a more productive, effective and efficient admin in the music articles than you, Kww; it won't be easy for others to fill in for the work that you've done. Acalamari 13:09, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'm very sorry about this. You've done a lot for the project, and the bravery I've seen in standing up to malign folk should earn you plaudits, not this. I've long since given up on ArbCom as something necessary for the project I hope you stay. I understand if you do not. In any event you have my great respect and gratitude.--Wehwalt (talk) 15:01, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
- I too am very sorry to see that this has happened. I am not as active on Wikipedia anymore, so this comes as a huge surprise, as I could not foresee anything like this happening. I say this because our previous experience has shown you to be extremely diligent and effective, with you being able to route out problematic editors of any kind. You will be sorely missed. DARTHBOTTO talk•cont 03:04, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
STARKILLERS
Hi, I've made several edits to the music wiki page of starkillers only to have been reverted by a rookie editor. I seek your assistance. This article is full of wiki:puff including talks of funding from (fictional) gangsters, unsubstatiated claims of chartings, an un-notable podcast internet radio show, etc. Its clearly authored by the dj himself as in the ASSOCIATED ACTS section, when you check to edit it, it states 'please don't add associated acts here as starkers is a freelance producer'.
It is a ridiculous promo piece.
Please check it out and revert the page back to my edits.
thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Housexpose (talk • contribs) 03:14, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
ARCA notice
You are involved in a recently-filed request for clarification or amendment from the Arbitration Committee. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Clarification request: Kww and The Rambling Man and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the Wikipedia:Arbitration guide may be of use.
Thanks, L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 22:51, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
- This is completely unrelated to anything you've done (if you've even done anything; I don't know) before or after the decision was announced. Basically, several people were confused by remedy #2, so I've filed a request to get Arbcom to clarify what they meant. Nyttend (talk) 02:01, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Notice
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Standard Offer unblock request for Technophant. Thank you. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 03:01, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
- Courtesy notification since you have been mentioned on AN. Well, technically you're mentioned on Technophant's talk page which is partially transcluded on AN (long story), but the end result is similar enough that I feel it warrants the usual notification.. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 03:02, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Standard Offer unblock request for Technophant
Technophant (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
Technophant has requested an unblock under the standard offer. As one of about 60 editors who has contributed to User talk:Technophant you may have an interest in this request. Sent by user:PBS via -- MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:48, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
Mate
If you give up, perhaps we all need to. Thought of losing an admin devoted to verifiable content saddens me. Best wished. Hope all that was needed was a break, not retirement. Cheers. Leprof 7272 (talk) 20:07, 21 August 2015 (UTC)