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- 1 Sandbox invite
- 2 Before you post on my talk page (humor)
- 3 Happy Montanabw's Day!
- 4 From the Recruiter's desk @ The Signpost
- 5 Littleolive oil
- 6 Admin
- 7 I hear Thunder (mascot)
- 8 Editor
- 9 DYK Naborr
- 10 Spirit Animals
- 11 DYK nomination of Naborr
- 12 Userboxes or boxen
- 13 Flim Flam
- 14 Precious anniversary
- 15 Wikipedia:Today's featured article/March 4, 2016
- 16 History of mounted police
- 17 Women's History Month worldwide online edit-a-thon
- 18 March 31 Montana wiki-event
- 19 Women's History Month worldwide online edit-a-thon
- 20 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot
- 21 Breed
- 22 Horsenality
- 23 Added a wikilink
- 24 Tarida
- 25 that wall
- 26 Still need help with a translation
- 27 WikiCup 2015 March newsletter
- 28 DYK for Naborr
- 29 Your GA nomination of Naborr
- 30 March 2016
- 31 Heads up
- 32 Drawings
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Anyone may play in my sandboxes, in the archive list to the right, IF you promise to behave. This means:
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- No hitting other people over the head with toys
- No pooping, even if you are a cat and neatly cover it up!
- It's my sandbox, so I can throw you out if you misbehave! :-)
"[The] readers will not be privy to the massive undercurrents of dross that underpins WP. They require well written, well sourced, encyclopaedic material that can inform, enlighten and satisfy their interest."
"We live a time when criticism, especially here on Wikipedia, is considered to be a personal attack, which is at the root of this nonsense. Yet without criticism we can't improve."
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"Montana, you know I respect you greatly--you write FAs that have fewer adjectives than that outburst."
"Every edit, especially bold ones, is disruptive. Disruptive just means changing the status quo and because Wikipedia is in a constant state of evolution, it is in a constant state of disruption ..."
Before you post on my talk page (humor)
Happy Montanabw's Day!
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Littleolive oil
I think we've all said our piece. Time to move on to other things. All of you are good folks and mean well, so let's all be a bit forgiving. Montanabw(talk) 02:55, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Hi Montanabw, since I've been told not to post further on Littleolive oil's talk page, I'll briefly reply to your comment here, although I don't want to get bogged down by all this. You are, of course, right; only the dispute occurred long before the editor had died, and the "Dreadfulstar" comment was made by SchroCat who at the time, did not know that the editor had since passed on. An apology, I think, admits guilt, and guilt was not obvious here. It was a simple mistake through no fault of his own and SchroCat rightly identified this being as such. That should be enough. Saying "I'm sorry, I didn't know" is wrong. How can one be sorry for not knowing something; should he have known? CassiantoTalk 09:47, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- (withdrawn, I was speechless and should have stayed speechless) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:39, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- If Littleolive oil would've kept quite in the first place, then this wouldn't have escalated. I wanted to reply to Montanabw, which I'm entitled to do, and here we are, as I've been told not to reply on Littleolive oil's talk page. If you don't want things to carry on, Gerda, may I defer you, respectively, to the same advice as I've just given Littleolive oil, in hindsight. CassiantoTalk 12:33, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
@Cassianto: I haven't banned you from my talk page; I had asked that you do not carry on this conversation further on my talk page because I had nothing further to say. I have never banned anyone from my talk page and probably never will. Further, as I said no one was asking for an apology. So yes, this should be dropped and chalked up to misunderstanding. Best to all.(Littleolive oil (talk) 15:48, 10 February 2016 (UTC))
- Two points I'd like to make:
- If Schrocat (not pinging due to their previous declaration of not wanting to discuss further) had stated here that they were not aware of the situation at the time of the offending edit, much of this could have been avoided. Clarity improves comprehension. (and Kudos to Montanabw for asking for clarification)
- re: If one has an offending remark to make about an editor A, then posting such an offending remark to a friend's (editor B) page isn't a good idea. If you're going to be demeaning to someone, have the decency to do so to their face.
Ched, I'm confused; who is "A", who is "B", to which talk page are you referring, what was the "offending remark", and why are you chiming in to a discussion which should have ceased days ago? Everyone wants an end to this discussion, but it's being kept alive by unconnected people shoving in their two penn'orth and its me who's being blamed for keeping it going! I'm not having a dig and I AGF. CassiantoTalk 01:39, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
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- Here's my thinking, folks. I'm someone who doesn't see a lot of value in ceremonial "now you say you're sorry" mea culpas absent having something to apologize for. But I do, nonetheless, think there is a place for culturally-appropriate acknowledgements when one has accidentally overstepped a line of politeness, creating offense or hurt feelings. Doing so does not mean you are "guilty" of something, it is akin to the apology you might give someone for stepping on their foot or bumping into them; you didn't do it on purpose, but they still got a bruise. For example, I recall being called out one time for pointing during a conversation with some folks from India, who considered it quite offensive. In my subculture (America of Northern European decent and rural heritage), pointing is merely a gesture of emphasis. I apologized and said that I didn't intend to cause offense, and in turn, they made a conciliatory response and we went on to have a friendly conversation. In this case, I gave a gentle admonition to an editor who in my opinion had crossed a line regarding a deceased wikipedian was a good wiki-friend of mine, the editor made an appropriate response and addressed at least part of their error, and now I think it's time for everyone to drop the stick. Montanabw(talk) 02:50, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
- The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Admin
Can I be a admin? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kimono111 (talk • contribs) 23:20, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
- Kimono111, you don't have enough experience to possibly pass RfA right now. Also, you have a history of making somewhat inappropriate edits, like the one to Cerbat Mustang where you said the page was made by you. Concentrate your energies on contributing to Wikipedia for 2 or 3 years and then worry about adminship. White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 23:56, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
I hear Thunder (mascot)
Just started a PR on the article. Nice job, Montanabw! I'm currently working on a bit of copyediting with a few tweaks that you might like, but I thought it best to work on it in my Sandbox since the article is already a GA. When I'm done, I'll post the link for you. Oh, and while I'm on the subject of GAs, the Racz article still doesn't reflect the reviewer's decision to discontinue the review so it is still live on the TP but not listed at WP:GAN. I don't have a clue how to close it on the TP, and it's too late for me to simply withdraw because a review was already started. Very confusing. Atsme📞📧 07:21, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
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- You can withdraw the GAN, wait a bit and re-nominate it. The directions are here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations/Instructions#Step_3:_Waiting which means you close as "fail" but if all your edit summaries say something like "withdrawn by nominator", it won't be held against you. Montanabw(talk) 23:52, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
Montanabw, I've finished the initial ce/tweak on Thunder but before I initiate any changes on the article, I'd like for you to preview it. I tweaked the lede and a section that syncs to some of the same info - more sections may need tweaking but I haven't gone that far. See User:Atsme/sandbox2. I tried to make the prose a bit more fluid and hopefully a bit more engaging in an effort to best satisfy the criteria for an FAC. If it meets your expectations, I'll be happy to continue ce and tweaking the rest of the article. Atsme📞📧 20:15, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
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- Don't put what's in your sandbox into the article, though your helpful wikignoming so far has been good. I'll comment on your sandbox there. Basically, we NEVER put citations into the lede, provided that all material in the lead is sourced in the main article (which it should be) the lead is supposed to be a summary of the article. (See WP:LEAD. Montanabw(talk) 01:49, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
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What about a registered editor or something? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kimono111 (talk • contribs) 22:17, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
- You already are a "registered" editor, you have a username and an account. For more privileges, you actually have to start making constructive edits to articles as opposed to posting random things. I suggest you go over to the Teahouse and ask questions there. Montanabw(talk) 23:25, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
DYK Naborr
Arabian White Filly nominated Naborr for a DYK. She put us on as cocontributers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Naborr Horsegeek(talk) 00:50, 12 February 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek
Spirit Animals
I'm making a new article. User:Horsegeek/Spirit Animals (novel) Does it look okay? Honestly, my spirit animal would be a horse. (Maybe) Horsegeek(talk) 23:32, 12 February 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek
- Hm. I've not done much with book series. Looks interesting. Be sure you have good, reliable sources. I'm going to ping Figureskatingfan, who may know who is good with articles about young adult literature and see if we can get you some additional helpers~ Montanabw(talk) 23:49, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll keep working on it. Horsegeek(talk) 00:49, 13 February 2016 (UTC)horsegeek
DYK nomination of Naborr
Hello! Your submission of Naborr at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SusunW (talk) 19:11, 15 February 2016 (UTC) I would've just fixed it, but since it's a newbie, I thought it might be a learning point. Not necessary for all parts of the hook to be claimed in the same sentence, but it is necessary that all parts of the hook be cited immediately following the claim. End of paragraph is not sufficient. Why this is, I have no idea, but I've been busted by that rule too many times to count. ;) SusunW (talk) 19:11, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
- On it, I hope Horsegeek and WAF have a chance to watch all this in action. Montanabw(talk) 19:16, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
Userboxes or boxen
I ended up doing boxes for eventing, saddle seat, barrel racing, cutting, rodeo, and western riding in general, which are all listed in the WP:Userboxes/Sports page by the jumping and dressage ones that were already there. I also did a couple of breed ones; Akhal-Teke, Saddlebred, Morgan and Quarter Horse, plus a general pony one (fat little fuzzball!); they are all on the WP:Userboxes/Animals page under the horse section, except for the pony, which I put in its own section because they are supposed to be different species. Got ideas for any more? White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 20:02, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
- Heh, Ponies ARE horses, same species; same as Chihuahuas and Great Danes are both dogs. Montanabw(talk) 20:20, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
- Apparently the person or people who wrote all my breed books did not hear that. Or maybe they just didn't want to acknowledge that a 9 hand fuzzball of a Shetland was the same species as a Friesian or Arabian. Ha. White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 20:25, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
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- Ponies are equus caballus, breeds and species are not the same thing. (I run into this frequently on the animal boards). Montanabw(talk) 20:35, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
- Except for the Simon and Schuster one, all my breed books are basically crap (the Pavia one, which dumbs it down too much, and a couple of others that are basically one paragraph per breed. I do have the Knack grooming book that gives good basic info on some of the more popular ones). I don't like ordering online so it's a tossup as to what I can find in the local bookstore; once I found a really good, comprehensive horse veterinary book for only $2 used, but more often it's books intended for kids or very green beginners. Or none at all. White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 21:25, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
- These days, I don't even own a hardcopy breed book, at least not a new one; I usually just access Hendricks, Storey or one of the others online. They all tend to be flawed in some ways and often just parrot the uncritical postings of breed associations (Lynghaug does so openly). The more popular breeds are pretty easy to find good secondary sources on, but the small obscure ones can be a real challenge. Montanabw(talk) 21:40, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
- Except for the Simon and Schuster one, all my breed books are basically crap (the Pavia one, which dumbs it down too much, and a couple of others that are basically one paragraph per breed. I do have the Knack grooming book that gives good basic info on some of the more popular ones). I don't like ordering online so it's a tossup as to what I can find in the local bookstore; once I found a really good, comprehensive horse veterinary book for only $2 used, but more often it's books intended for kids or very green beginners. Or none at all. White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 21:25, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
- Ponies are equus caballus, breeds and species are not the same thing. (I run into this frequently on the animal boards). Montanabw(talk) 20:35, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
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- (talk page stalker) I don't think anybody was suggesting breeds do not all belong to the same species. Indeed in the cases we're looking at, there is no way of having breeding if there were different species. Although the definition of species varies with organism, for most mammals it represents animals that are capable of interbreeding and producing fertile offspring (which is a by-product of close genetic similarity). The definition of a breed is even more fuzzy, although it is generally used for a group of animals that share multiple common traits (sometimes through deliberate attempts by breeders to emphasise those traits in a population). Because the creation and recognition of a unique breed can be a lucrative business, it predisposes breeders to get recognition for their creations as separate breeds and goes a long way to muddy the waters even further. I suspect those are the sort of issues that are so elusive to source with any degree of confidence. --RexxS (talk) 23:52, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
- The creation of the new breeds is also confused by the current trend of designer breeding, both in horses and dogs, as well as some other animals. (Like the Friesian Sporthorse, basically a way to capitalize on the huge popularity of the Friesian horse, at least IMO--you can buy an off the track Thoroughbred cheap, breed it to a Friesian, and wham! Expensive designer babies.) Although most of this crossbreeding is within the species, it's possible to cross to other species, like with the coydog or those cats that are a cross of a housecat and a serval. The what-makes-a-breed argument is also muddied by the fact that some people with pure breeds don't want them recognized by major groups. A prime example is the Coonhound dog breeds--a lot of breeders fought to keep them getting accepted by the American Kennel Club because they wanted the dogs to stay true to their hunting purpose. They didn't want them to go the route of the spaniels, which are now so far removed from their original use that you'd probably have to buy one specifically from a hunting breeder to be able to hunt with it. The same thing is out there in the herding breeds as well. It's virtually impossible to find a Collie or Australian Shepherd bred for herding, even though that's what both breeds were used for for hundreds of years. White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 00:19, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- The concept of "breed" is often a human construct. I suspect the Kennel Club says in their breed description something like "Cocker Spaniels must have a short, cropped tail". So, any ethically minded owner who refuses to amputate their dog's tail, actually does not have a Cocker Spaniel (in the eyes of the Kennel Club). (please shoot me down in flames if I am wrong - I am not an expert in this area).DrChrissy (talk) 00:55, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- I mean when you get right down to it, most ways of dividing the world into categories is a human construct. My personal favorite Ship of Theseus argument for biologists is "After how many generations does a subspecies become a species?"--Guerillero | Parlez Moi 03:12, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- Ha! Guerillero, I hit an edit conflict with your post when I tried to post the following: Breeds are probably closer to being subspecies, DrChrissy - the products of controlled (or planned) evolutionary and/or ecological adaptations which altered their DNA and/or remapped their genome sequencing. Who knows what breed actually represents the true species as it came to us in its original genetic wardrobe as described in a century old cladogram? Atsme📞📧 03:19, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- @Guerillero - interesting question. We may already be there with the Domestic Turkey which taxonomically is the same as the Wild Turkey (Meleagris gallopavo). Male domestic turkeys have such large breasts and are so heavy, they have great difficulty mating naturally with domestic females - a substantial amount of artificial breeding relies on artificial insemination. A Wild turkey hen weighs approx 5 kg, so I imagine a 20 kg Domestic male would find it very difficult to mate successfully without squashing his (very surprised!) mate. Do we have a new species...?DrChrissy (talk) 16:40, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- I guess I was thinking of this in rather narrow perspectives. Species are defined by biology which is related to biological fitness, whereas we humans, in animal breeding circles, often define a breed according to characteristics which may not have any basis in fitness (e.g. Dogs: cropped tail, spotted coat, brachycephalic, Cattle: Double muscled, Sheep: Highly wrinkled, Goldfish: Bulging eyes - are there any examples for horses?). Perhaps the difference we are discussing here is between domestic breeds and wild-type breeds.DrChrissy (talk) 16:27, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- @Guerillero - interesting question. We may already be there with the Domestic Turkey which taxonomically is the same as the Wild Turkey (Meleagris gallopavo). Male domestic turkeys have such large breasts and are so heavy, they have great difficulty mating naturally with domestic females - a substantial amount of artificial breeding relies on artificial insemination. A Wild turkey hen weighs approx 5 kg, so I imagine a 20 kg Domestic male would find it very difficult to mate successfully without squashing his (very surprised!) mate. Do we have a new species...?DrChrissy (talk) 16:40, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- Ha! Guerillero, I hit an edit conflict with your post when I tried to post the following: Breeds are probably closer to being subspecies, DrChrissy - the products of controlled (or planned) evolutionary and/or ecological adaptations which altered their DNA and/or remapped their genome sequencing. Who knows what breed actually represents the true species as it came to us in its original genetic wardrobe as described in a century old cladogram? Atsme📞📧 03:19, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- I mean when you get right down to it, most ways of dividing the world into categories is a human construct. My personal favorite Ship of Theseus argument for biologists is "After how many generations does a subspecies become a species?"--Guerillero | Parlez Moi 03:12, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- The concept of "breed" is often a human construct. I suspect the Kennel Club says in their breed description something like "Cocker Spaniels must have a short, cropped tail". So, any ethically minded owner who refuses to amputate their dog's tail, actually does not have a Cocker Spaniel (in the eyes of the Kennel Club). (please shoot me down in flames if I am wrong - I am not an expert in this area).DrChrissy (talk) 00:55, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- The creation of the new breeds is also confused by the current trend of designer breeding, both in horses and dogs, as well as some other animals. (Like the Friesian Sporthorse, basically a way to capitalize on the huge popularity of the Friesian horse, at least IMO--you can buy an off the track Thoroughbred cheap, breed it to a Friesian, and wham! Expensive designer babies.) Although most of this crossbreeding is within the species, it's possible to cross to other species, like with the coydog or those cats that are a cross of a housecat and a serval. The what-makes-a-breed argument is also muddied by the fact that some people with pure breeds don't want them recognized by major groups. A prime example is the Coonhound dog breeds--a lot of breeders fought to keep them getting accepted by the American Kennel Club because they wanted the dogs to stay true to their hunting purpose. They didn't want them to go the route of the spaniels, which are now so far removed from their original use that you'd probably have to buy one specifically from a hunting breeder to be able to hunt with it. The same thing is out there in the herding breeds as well. It's virtually impossible to find a Collie or Australian Shepherd bred for herding, even though that's what both breeds were used for for hundreds of years. White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 00:19, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) I don't think anybody was suggesting breeds do not all belong to the same species. Indeed in the cases we're looking at, there is no way of having breeding if there were different species. Although the definition of species varies with organism, for most mammals it represents animals that are capable of interbreeding and producing fertile offspring (which is a by-product of close genetic similarity). The definition of a breed is even more fuzzy, although it is generally used for a group of animals that share multiple common traits (sometimes through deliberate attempts by breeders to emphasise those traits in a population). Because the creation and recognition of a unique breed can be a lucrative business, it predisposes breeders to get recognition for their creations as separate breeds and goes a long way to muddy the waters even further. I suspect those are the sort of issues that are so elusive to source with any degree of confidence. --RexxS (talk) 23:52, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm not aware of any horses that have the vast discrepancies between breeds that are present in the dog world, like the difference between a Great Pyrenees and a Pekingese dog. There are differences with horses that are bred for different purposes, especially since horses are mostly pleasure or recreational animals now and most people don't farm with them or drive them to town. That has probably allowed the breeds to diverge more, but a Saddlebred and Quarter Horse are both still clearly of the same species, and could produce fertile offspring. White Arabian Filly (Neigh) 16:42, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- I don't think equus ferus caballus has diverged enough to consider making any particular breed a superspecies or semispecies so I imagine "breed" it will be for a long time. Interesting read starting on page 4, [1]. --Atsme📞📧 18:06, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- I guess humans may well have had longer to interfere with dogs' genetics than with most other animals, so it's no surprise that there is such diversity in dog breeds. On the other hand, there may be practical considerations if you were trying to cross a Shetland stallion with a carthorse mare, although I'm pretty sure we would consider them the same species. Here's a treat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU_c8aabw2Y --RexxS (talk) 18:16, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Breeds are not subspecies. No DNA differences that distinguish breeds. In contrast, the Przewalski's horse IS a subspecies -- different number of chromosomes, for one thing. The "multiple origins" of domestic horse was an old theory promulgated in the late1800s/early 1900s that certain old horse breeds (notably the Arabians and the Andalusians) were of completely different subspecies (see History of horse domestication theories) but that theory has been quite thoroughly discredited. In fact, it appears that ALL domesticated horses come from only ONE -- or at the most, a very few -- stallion, but crossed on multiple mare lines. The Y-DNA lines traced so far all converge on a single progenitor. (Possibly a second in China). Yes, you could cross a miniature horse on a Shire horse, but who would want to?? Clearly, though, as the piece {[u|Atsme}} links, there are political considerations where very different animals can mate with fertile offspring. Where do we draw the line between hybridize and crossbreeding? (I briefly came across an analogous issue at Brown bear and cutthroat trout). Montanabw(talk) 18:26, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Flim Flam
Do you think you and White Arabian Filly could help me with the article Flim Flam?User:Horsegeek/Flim Flam Horsegeek(talk) 03:40, 16 February 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek
- Ask her over at her talk page, I bet she would! Montanabw(talk) 19:09, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
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Still valid! Dreadstar was no. 26. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:25, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Today's featured article/March 4, 2016
Thanks for the edit. I'm running this one by Corinne before I look it over. - Dank (push to talk) 15:25, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
- Your edit brought us up to 1473 characters. We shoot for 1150 and usually don't go over 1175. Give it another shot? Also, "range work" doesn't appear in the text below the lead ... if you keep it, can you clarify? - Dank (push to talk) 06:41, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
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- OK, I'll go chop more. Montanabw(talk) 06:43, 20 February 2016 (UTC) Follow up: Dank I got it to 1176... good enough? Montanabw(talk) 06:51, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
- Great work. - Dank (push to talk) 14:58, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
- OK, I'll go chop more. Montanabw(talk) 06:43, 20 February 2016 (UTC) Follow up: Dank I got it to 1176... good enough? Montanabw(talk) 06:51, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
History of mounted police
I refer to your deletion of my newly added history section to the Mounted police article. Your statement that I should have provided source references for each of the French, Turkish, Mexican, Canadian and British colonial forces named is a valid one. However it will take me a few hours to track and add all of the individual references required - please do not revert the restored material again while this is work in progress. I note your advice that the Texas Rangers are not police and will delete this particular reference. Regards Buistr (talk) 18:37, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
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Hi Montababw, would you be interested/available to participate in Wikipedia:Meetup/Bozeman/ArtAndFeminism 2016? This edit-a-thon is being organized by enthusiastic new academic editors, and they could greatly benefit from the assistance of a very experienced and friendly local Wikipedian like yourself.--Pharos (talk) 03:43, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
- I'll take a look. Montanabw(talk) 03:44, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
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Breed
I saw that you have made some horse portals. Is this one okay? Delete is if it is bad or not, you know. Thanks. Portal:Horses/Selected breed/34 Horsegeek(talk) 03:21, 23 February 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek
Oh, ya sorry. First time doing that. I didn't know where else to ask :`
Horsegeek(talk) 23:39, 23 February 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek
About what you said to me about getting Cerbat to GA status, if you can go ahead and add some things. I don't want you doing all the work and make it like, you know, I'm making you do it. I've been down with fever and my mind's not going straight. Horsegeek(talk) 21:14, 26 February 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek
- (talk page stalker) Sorry to hear that, but I have allergies and have been stuffed up and sick for the past week, so I know how you feel (some of the early plants are already blooming/producing pollen where I am). I can help expand the article too. I think that's mostly what it needs; to be a couple paragraphs longer, more if possible. White Arabian Filly Neigh 01:03, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
Horsenality
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Speaking of Parelli Natural Horsemanship, don't you think "horsenality" deserves its own article? (Introduced here, actually as "Parelli Horsenality™".) What a valuable concept! Incidentally, Google shows a surprising number of Parelli mentions on Swedish pages, and especially of horsenality. Mainly blogs, I guess. Horsenality is there translated as — are you ready for this? — hästonlighet. Sounds even better in Swedish, doesn't it? Bishonen | talk 17:59, 24 February 2016 (UTC).
Googling "Parelli Natural Horsemanship" may give a different set of results - and you have to remember Google tailors results to the searcher - as I get http://www.equiportal.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?id=524 as hit number 5. It's not as popular as our article would have you believe. Should we ask Jimbo if he knows any "toxic horsenalities"? --RexxS (talk) 21:55, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
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OK, this all needs to go back to the talk page, everyone; I'll move the discussion there if folks want to continue. Montanabw(talk) 20:20, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
Added a wikilink
See Thunder - I was fascinated by Sharon's story, and started a BLP. Long way to go yet. There's also a BLP on Bob that somebody created but it's a just a stub. I'm planning to work on it, later. Oh, and if you get a break will you consider taking on a GA review for Gabor B. Racz which appears to be in limbo at the GA/N page? Thanks bunches. Atsme📞📧 07:45, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
- Link me the GA... was real busy today, will be caught up over the weekend. Montanabw(talk) 08:14, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
- It's #2 in line: Wikipedia:Good_article_nominations#Biology_and_medicine, BLP is Gabor B. Racz. Thanks in advance. Atsme📞📧 23:52, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
Tarida
Hello,
why did you delete this picture in the article Horse transports in the Middle Ages? It's historically accurate, based on the description of Angevin chronicles, and the image has been created using as a reference the drawing of the history magazine Desperta ferro, which is 100% reliable (you can found the original picture here). I don't see any reason to undo the edition, it's a good way of illustrating the way of transporting horses during the Middle Ages.
Best regards, --Auledas (talk) 20:32, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
- Hm. I restored it; I think my concern was the word "Roma" in the title, sometimes am moving rapidly through articles on my watchlist, and I must have been thinking you had an ancient Roman design, not a medieval one. But that was my error, I misread the caption. Sorry! Montanabw(talk) 21:14, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
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- Thank you for restoring it! The word "Roma" is there because Catalan ships were often named after Saints (in this case Saint Peter of Rome, in Catalan Sant Pere de Roma), but it's completely from the Middle Ages, built in 1354. Nothing to be sorry about and pleased to meet you, --Auledas (talk) 00:29, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
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- Thanks for your patience. I've got about 5000 articles on my watchlist (cleaned out about 1000 recently so now it's about 4800 and change) the number that are edited on any given day varies, but when it's been busy for me, I get a little twitchy with the rollback button, and on this one I hit too fast. Appreciate the goodwill. Montanabw(talk) 01:01, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
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that wall
LOL .. actually that youtube video is what made me think of it. :-) .. Now if I can just get one of my Canadian friends to sponsor me. — Ched : ? 07:56, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
- WikiProject Canada might be able to help! LOL! Montanabw(talk) 08:16, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
Still need help with a translation
Hi Montanabw,
I don't know if you saw it by I already get I new response again that it is still not enough in "third-party-sources" regarding my draft. Do you have another idea? I mean we have also newspapers and magazines which are only write reports about vip persons.
Would such a link help?
Or can I ask for a second reviewer? Since other persons which has almost exact the same status in Germany got a Wikipedia page already. So there isn't really one or two rules on which people refer since some articles are ok and some not except of the references as far as I see.
Pepino2410 (talk) 16:36, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
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Heads up
Infobox on Thunder - need to correct breeder as the correct breeder of JB Kobask is Henderson Arabian Stud. Also, not sure what Ian is asking re: Image review? Atsme📞📧 16:41, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) At Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Thunder (mascot)/archive1 #Coord note, Ian is asking the reviewers for someone to do an image review. It's not a job for the noms :P --RexxS (talk) 17:35, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Drawings
Is it okay to upload drawings? I mean, if it is your own work? User:Horsegeek/Drawings of mine Horsegeek(talk) 01:12, 12 March 2016 (UTC)Horsegeek