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Contents
- 1 Question re: images of closed businesses / demolished buildings
- 2 Wiki Loves Pride 2016
- 3 Oregon mountains
- 4 Portland Orange
- 5 Photo for Broadway Theatre and Carriage Room
- 6 Welcome to the Hall of Fame!
- 7 The Know (Portland, Oregon)
- 8 Racism in Oregon
- 9 Stubs?
- 10 Re: Portland Memorial Mausoleum Mural
- 11 Sort of early, but also late depending on you perspective - Next COTM
Question re: images of closed businesses / demolished buildings
There is probably a more appropriate venue for this question, but I am wondering if anyone might know the image policy for a defunct business or demolished space. I was hoping to find an image to illustrate the Red Cap Garage article, which existed in the space now occupied by Union Alley. If I do a Google image search for "Red Cap Garage", I see a couple images hosted at Yelp, one at Pinterest, and another at Clubfly. Does anyone know if these images can be used under fair use, or some similar policy? The business and space are both gone, so there is no way to take a current image, and I am unable to find free images of the venue at Flickr. I am happy to take an image of Union Alley next time I am in the area, to illustrate the current space, but this is not as good as having an image of the original space. Is anyone able to point me in the right direction? ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:01, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
- The same applies to Jiggles, and probably many other articles, but perhaps WP's image policy means many will remain unillustrated. ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:53, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- Ditto Starky's. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:29, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- @Another Believer: I'm not sure a fair use Starky's image is necessary, as there is a freely licensed image of the business here on Flickr (taken in 2009) which can easily be transferred to Wikimedia Commons. MB298 (talk) 01:19, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- and WP:NFC#UUI states that unacceptable fair use includes "pictures of people still alive, groups still active, and buildings still standing; provided that taking a new free picture as a replacement (which is almost always considered possible) would serve the same encyclopedic purpose as the non-free image." Given that the building is demolished; or the business is closed I would say that fair use would be acceptable for those articles. MB298 (talk) 01:24, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- @MB298: Thanks so much for your very helpful responses. I had tried searching for an image of Starky's at Flickr, but didn't find one so I must not have been searching properly. I went ahead and transferred the image to Commons. As for the other demolished buildings, I will see if I can get away with uploading images under fair use. Thanks again! ---Another Believer (Talk) 01:57, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- and WP:NFC#UUI states that unacceptable fair use includes "pictures of people still alive, groups still active, and buildings still standing; provided that taking a new free picture as a replacement (which is almost always considered possible) would serve the same encyclopedic purpose as the non-free image." Given that the building is demolished; or the business is closed I would say that fair use would be acceptable for those articles. MB298 (talk) 01:24, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- @Another Believer: I'm not sure a fair use Starky's image is necessary, as there is a freely licensed image of the business here on Flickr (taken in 2009) which can easily be transferred to Wikimedia Commons. MB298 (talk) 01:19, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Ditto Starky's. ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:29, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Wiki Loves Pride 2016
I created Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Pride 2016/Portland as a space to collaborate on LGBT-related content this month as part of the annual Wiki Loves Pride campaign. I plan to take pictures at Portland's pride parade and festival to document local LGBT culture, and hope to create/improve a few Wikipedia articles this month. If anyone is interested in collaborating on an article or two, I'm game! ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:37, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
- Dirty Duck (Portland, Oregon) looks interesting. I didn't know about this building or bar until today. Thanks to Tedder for updating LGBT culture in Portland, Oregon, along with a few other red links. ---Another Believer (Talk) 05:05, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Yeah, I'm learning a lot. Which is why this kind of thing is so cool. tedder (talk) 16:45, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
- Talk:Dirty Duck (Portland, Oregon) displays relevant sources based on my scroll through the first 10 pages of Google search returns. No doubt a little diving through the Oregonian archives would provide additional references, but those posted on the talk page should be a great start. I hope I have more time this month to work on the Dirty Duck article! ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:40, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
- BTW, I called the article "Dirty Duck (Portland, Oregon)" because I assumed the building, which earned its nickname after the bar, were not independently notable. Perhaps over time the article could be split into one about the building and another about the bar itself, but for now, "Dirty Duck" seemed like the best common term for discussing both. I am open to comments and alternative titles. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:42, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm learning a lot. Which is why this kind of thing is so cool. tedder (talk) 16:45, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Red Cap Garage and Starky's are both awaiting GA reviews, if anyone cares to take a gander beforehand. --Another Believer (Talk) 19:07, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
- Both have been promoted to GA status. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:11, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
Oregon mountains
The List of mountain peaks of Oregon has been expanded and updated. We need articles for the following mountain peaks:
Aneroid Mountain, Bald Mountain, Beatys Butte, Big Lookout Mountain, Black Mountain, Brandy Peak, Drake Peak, Elkhorn Peak, Gearhart Mountain, Red Mountain, Rock Creek Butte, Roman Nose Mountain, Snow Mountain, Twin Peaks, Vinegar Hill, Warner Peak, and Yainax Butte
Information about these peaks can be found in their references on the List of mountain peaks of Oregon. We also need good mountain photos for the articles and list gallery. Yours aye, Buaidh 23:49, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
- This list is confusing to me. Diamond Peak (Oregon) is listed in its own article as having 946 m of prominence, but it does not appear in the list article. Many peaks appear to be missing, such as Aneroid, Twin Peaks, Red Mountain, and Elkhorn Peak. I was unable to find a reference in the list article showing the Oregon peaks that meet the criteria laid out in the lead. Help me get unconfused, please. Here are some sources that may lead to changes in the article: [1] [2] [3].
- And why was 500 meters chosen as the criterion? Is there a reliable source supporting that choice? Peakbagger.com, for example, uses 500 feet. The 500-meter height excludes Middle Sister, and any list claiming to be the "mountain peaks of Oregon" that does not have Middle Sister on it is just going to mislead and confuse readers. I'm definitely confused. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:19, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you. You are absolutely correct. I will add the five peaks you named to the lists as soon as I can round up additional references. If you find any other peaks that should be on the lists, please send them to me.
- I am surveying all mountain summits of greater North America. The reason for the 500 meter prominence cutoff is the sheer number of summits involved, There are approximately 353 summits with at least 1500 meters of prominence in North America and more 6600 summits with 500 meters of prominence. As the prominence criteria drops, the number of summits increases exponentially. There are a number of summits under 3000 meters of elevation that I have yet to survey. I hope to include them as soon as I can. Your help is greatly appreciated. BTW, peakbagger.com does not use a prominence cutoff for inclusion. See Browne Tower, Alaska for an example.
- Thanks again, Buaidh 02:42, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- If you wish, we can create a separate list of the highest Oregon summits with a 500-foot, 100-meter, or 300-foot prominence criteria. See the List of Colorado fourteeners for an example. Yours aye, Buaidh 03:27, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- After a quick survey, it appears the following summits should also be included in the List of mountain peaks of Oregon:
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Aspen Butte, Bald Mountain, Beatys Butte, Big Lookout Mountain, Black Butte, Broken Top, Cottonwood Mountain, Drake Peak, Laurel Mountain, Lookout Mountain, Maiden Peak, Mount Ashland, Mount Bachelor, Mount Bailey, Mount Scott, Mount Washington, Paulina Peak, Pearsoll Peak, Pelican Butte, Pueblo Mountain, Roman Nose Mountain, Saddle Mountain, Snow Mountain, Vinegar Hill, Warner Peak, Yainax Butte
- It may take me a while to gather data for these mountains, but I will include them as soon as possible. Yours aye, Buaidh 04:10, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep up the good work. I'm still concerned about Middle Sister, which has over 1,000 feet of prominence. I understand the technical reasons you are excluding it from this list, but seeing a list of Oregon peaks without her makes me question the usefulness of the criteria. You don't have to include all one hundred 500-foot-prominence peaks over 7,840 feet as peakbagger did, just pick a cutoff point that keeps the list a reasonable length. A 9,000-foot cutoff for 500-foot-prominence peaks gives you 31 peaks, according to peakbagger (the number in the far left column). – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:47, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- I was confused by this article as well. It seems to me, the most common question for an average reader would be "what are the highest mountains in Oregon?" Yet this article doesn't answer that. I think the article would be more useful if the first table simply listed the highest peaks in Oregon, regardless of their topographic prominence. The second table could add a prominence criterion and the third table could be focused on topographic isolation. Also, it’s worth noting that there is another List of mountains of Oregon. I like the new format better, since it puts the peaks in some kind of order, but the previous list identifies and links to a lot more Oregon peaks.--Orygun (talk) 19:37, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep up the good work. I'm still concerned about Middle Sister, which has over 1,000 feet of prominence. I understand the technical reasons you are excluding it from this list, but seeing a list of Oregon peaks without her makes me question the usefulness of the criteria. You don't have to include all one hundred 500-foot-prominence peaks over 7,840 feet as peakbagger did, just pick a cutoff point that keeps the list a reasonable length. A 9,000-foot cutoff for 500-foot-prominence peaks gives you 31 peaks, according to peakbagger (the number in the far left column). – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:47, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
I've expanded and updated the List of mountain peaks of Oregon which now includes 49 summits with over 500 meters prominence. The articles begining with "List of mountain peaks of" all use a 500-meter prominence criteria. I would prefer that the names of all these articles were changed to "List of major summits of", but the names of these articles have already been changed many times over the last twelve years.
I would be happy to create an article entitled the List of the highest summits of Oregon (similar to the List of the highest major summits of Colorado) with a 1000-foot (46 peaks over 8000'), 500-foot (98 peaks over 8000'), 100-meter (103 peaks over 2500 m), or 300-foot (140 peaks over 8000') prominence criteria. Yours aye, Buaidh 23:17, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
- The table below shows how the ranking of Oregon's highest summits changes depending on what prominence criteria you use. As the prominence criteria decreases you get more peaks, but those additional peaks may be less important or subpeaks of higher summits. As the prominence criteria decreases the rank of high prominence peaks may also drop. For instance, Strawberry Mountain ranks 16th using the 500-meter prominence criteria, 20th using 1000-foot, 33rd using 500-foot, 41st using 100-meter, and 46th using the 300-foot criteria.
rank | 300 feet | 100 meters | 500 Feet | 1000 feet | 500 meters |
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1 | Mount Hood | Mount Hood | Mount Hood | Mount Hood | Mount Hood |
2 | Mount Jefferson | Mount Jefferson | Mount Jefferson | Mount Jefferson | Mount Jefferson |
3 | South Sister | South Sister | South Sister | South Sister | South Sister |
4 | North Sister | North Sister | North Sister | North Sister | North Sister |
5 | Middle Sister | Middle Sister | Middle Sister | Middle Sister | Sacajawea Peak |
6 | Sacajawea Peak | Sacajawea Peak | Sacajawea Peak | Sacajawea Peak | Steens Mountain |
7 | Matterhorn | Matterhorn | Hurwal Divide | Steens Mountain | Aneroid Mountain |
8 | Hurwal Divide | Hurwal Divide | Steens Mountain | Aneroid Mountain | Twin Peaks |
9 | Steens Mountain | Steens Mountain | Aneroid Mountain | Petes Point | Red Mountain |
10 | Aneroid Mountain | Aneroid Mountain | Petes Point | Twin Peaks | Mount McLoughlin |
11 | Petes Point | Petes Point | Twin Peaks | Red Mountain | Elkhorn Peak |
12 | Twin Peaks | Twin Peaks | Chief Joseph Mountain | Eagle Cap | Mount Thielsen |
13 | Hurricane Divide North | Hurricane Divide North | Red Mountain | Mount McLoughlin | Broken Top |
14 | Chief Joseph Mountain | Chief Joseph Mountain | Eagle Cap | Elkhorn Peak | Rock Creek Butte |
15 | Red Mountain | Red Mountain | Cusick Mountain | Mount Thielsen | Mount Bachelor |
16 | Eagle Cap | Eagle Cap | Mount McLoughlin | Broken Top | Strawberry Mountain |
17 | Cusick Mountain | Cusick Mountain | Aneroid Mountain North | Rock Creek Butte | Mount Scott |
18 | Hurwal Divide Southwest | Hurwal Divide Southwest | Sentinel Peak | Krag Peak | Diamond Peak |
19 | Mount McLoughlin | Mount McLoughlin | Hurricane Divide South | Mount Bachelor | Pueblo Mountain |
20 | Glacier Peak | Aneroid Mountain North | Steens Mountain-North Peak | Strawberry Mountain | Crane Mountain |
21 | Aneroid Mountain North | Sentinel Peak | Elkhorn Peak | Needle Point | Drake Peak |
22 | Sentinel Peak | Petes-Sentinel Ridge | Craig Mountain | Traverse Lake East Peak | Gearhart Mountain |
23 | Petes-Sentinel Ridge | Hurricane Divide South | Mount Thielsen | Mount Scott | Mount Bailey |
24 | Hurricane Divide South | East Peak | Peak 9160 | Red Mountain | Aspen Butte |
25 | East Peak | Steens Mountain-North Peak | Broken Top | Twin Mountain | Yamsay Mountain |
26 | Steens Mountain-North Peak | Razzberry Mountain | Glacier Mountain | Lookout Mountain | Vinegar Hill |
27 | Razzberry Mountain | Elkhorn Peak | East McCully Basin Peak | Diamond Peak | Pelican Butte |
28 | Peak 9275 | Peak 9213 | Rock Creek Butte | Van Patten Butte | Lookout Mountain |
29 | Elkhorn Peak | Craig Mountain | Krag Peak | Pueblo Mountain | Warner Peak |
30 | Peak 9230 | Mount Thielsen | Dollar Lake Peak | Crane Mountain | Paulina Peak |
31 | Peak 9213 | Peak 9160 | Traverse Ridge | Central Pueblo Mountains Peak | Cougar Peak |
32 | Craig Mountain | Broken Top | Mount Bachelor | Drake Peak | Beatys Butte |
33 | Mount Thielsen | Glacier Mountain | Strawberry Mountain | Gearhart Mountain | Bullrun Rock |
34 | Peak 9160 | East McCully Basin Peak | Needle Point | Mount Bailey | Three Fingered Jack |
35 | Broken Top | Rock Creek Butte | Traverse Lake East Peak | Mount Ireland | |
36 | Glacier Mountain | Krag Peak | Cougar Pond Southwest | Aspen Butte | |
37 | Peak 9160 | Dollar Lake Peak | Echo Lake Northwest Peak | Yamsay Mountain | |
38 | East McCully Basin Peak | Broken Top-South Peak | Elkhorn Peak | Hillman Peak | |
39 | Peak 9120 | Traverse Ridge | Mount Scott | Dutton Cliff | |
40 | Rock Creek Butte | Mount Bachelor | Red Mountain | Vinegar Hill | |
41 | Krag Peak | Strawberry Mountain | Eagle Lake East | Deadhorse Rim | |
42 | Dollar Lake Peak | Glacier Pass Peak | Marble Mountain | Applegate Peak | |
43 | Broken Top-South Peak | Needle Point | Twin Mountain | Pelican Butte | |
44 | Traverse Ridge | Peak 8987 | Ruby Peak | Lookout Mountain | |
45 | Mount Bachelor | Traverse Lake East Peak | Blue Lake Southwest | Oregon Canyon Mountains Peak | |
46 | Strawberry Mountain | Cougar Pond Southwest | Lookout Mountain | Warner Peak | |
47 | Glacier Pass Peak | Echo Lake Northwest Peak | Long Lake South | Paulina Peak | |
48 | Wing Ridge | Elkhorn Peak | Diamond Peak | Mount Harriman | |
49 | Needle Point | Mount Scott | Peak 8721 | Cougar Peak | |
50 | Peak 8987 | Red Mountain | Van Patten Butte | Beatys Butte | |
51 | Traverse Lake East Peak | Eagle Lake East | Granite Butte | Bullrun Rock | |
52 | Cougar Pond Southwest | Marble Mountain | Culver Lake South | Three Fingered Jack | |
53 | Echo Lake Northwest Peak | Peak 8910 | Chimney Lake North | ||
54 | Elkhorn Peak | Twin Mountain | China Cap | ||
55 | Mount Scott | Ruby Peak | Angell Peak | ||
56 | Red Mountain | Cougar Pond Southeast | Pueblo Mountain | ||
57 | Eagle Lake East | Peak 8861 | Granite Creek East | ||
58 | Peak 8923 | Blue Lake Southwest | Jackson Peak | ||
59 | Marble Mountain | Lookout Mountain | Mount Ruth | ||
60 | Peak 8910 | Long Lake South | Cached Lake South | ||
61 | Twin Mountain | Diamond Peak | Graham Mountain | ||
62 | Ruby Peak | Peak 8721 | Indian Spring Butte | ||
63 | Cougar Pond Southeast | Minam-Mirror Peak | Dutch Flat Saddle South | ||
64 | Peak 8861 | Van Patten Butte | Graham Mountain-West Peak | ||
65 | Blue Lake Southwest | Nip Pass Peak | Jackson Peak-South | ||
66 | Lookout Mountain | Granite Butte | Crane Mountain | ||
67 | Long Lake South | Culver Lake South | Arrow Lake Peak | ||
68 | Diamond Peak | Chimney Lake North | Lostline River-Moccasin Lake | ||
69 | Peak 8721 | China Cap | Peak 8428 | ||
70 | Minam-Mirror Peak | Angell Peak | Central Pueblo Mountains Peak | ||
71 | Van Patten Butte | Cornucopia Peak | Drake Peak | ||
72 | Nip Pass Peak | Pueblo Mountain | Howlock Mountain | ||
73 | Peak 8684 | Granite Creek East | Gearhart Mountain | ||
74 | Granite Butte | Jackson Peak | Mount Bailey | ||
75 | Culver Lake South | Mount Ruth | North Minam Creek-Bear Creek | ||
76 | Chimney Lake North | Cached Lake South | Hidden Lake North | ||
77 | China Cap | Graham Mountain | Light Peak | ||
78 | Angell Peak | Chloride Ridge West | Mount Ireland | ||
79 | Cornucopia Peak | Slide Mountain | Aspen Butte | ||
80 | Pueblo Mountain | Peak 8520 | Yamsay Mountain | ||
81 | Granite Creek East | Dutch Flat Saddle North | Mount Thielsen-East Peak | ||
82 | Peak 8614 | Indian Spring Butte | Hillman Peak | ||
83 | Jackson Peak | Dutch Flat Saddle South | Dutton Cliff | ||
84 | Mount Ruth | Graham Mountain-West Peak | Twelvemile Peak | ||
85 | Cached Lake South | Jackson Peak-South | Vinegar Hill | ||
86 | Graham Mountain | Tombstone Butte | Peak 8120 | ||
87 | Chloride Ridge West | Burger Butte | Deadhorse Rim | ||
88 | Slide Mountain | Crane Mountain | Applegate Peak | ||
89 | Peak 8520 | Arrow Lake Peak | Columbia Hill | ||
90 | Dutch Flat Saddle North | Lostline River-Moccasin Lake | Peak 8080 | ||
91 | Indian Spring Butte | Peak 8428 | Ball Butte | ||
92 | Dutch Flat Saddle South | Central Pueblo Mountains Peak | Llao Rock | ||
93 | Graham Mountain-West Peak | Drake Peak | Pelican Butte | ||
94 | Jackson Peak-South | Howlock Mountain | Lookout Mountain | ||
95 | Tombstone Butte | Gearhart Mountain | Oregon Canyon Mountains Peak | ||
96 | Burger Butte | Mount Bailey | Berry-Norton Peak | ||
97 | Crane Mountain | North Minam Creek-Bear Creek | Warner Peak | ||
98 | Arrow Lake Peak | Hidden Lake North | Crown Point | ||
99 | Lostline River-Moccasin Lake | Light Peak | Paulina Peak | ||
100 | Peak 8428 | Mount Ireland | Sugarloaf Mountain |
I would appreciate your comments. Yours aye, Buaidh 03:14, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
Portland Orange
Anybody have any idea of the origin of the term Portland Orange? The article is crying out for this project to contribute a history section. YBG (talk) 07:44, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Photo for Broadway Theatre and Carriage Room
If anyone stumbles upon one, I'm on the lookout for an image to illustrate the Carriage Room and non-existent (but hopefully soon-to-be-created) Broadway Theatre (Portland, Oregon) articles. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:10, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
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The Know (Portland, Oregon)
If anyone happens to be in the Alberta area, the article The Know (Portland, Oregon) could use a picture or two before the venue shutters. ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:29, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
- Is your writing an article about a venue always a death-knell, AB ;) --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:31, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
Racism in Oregon
Question: I assume there should be an article about Racism in Oregon? ---Another Believer (Talk) 21:58, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- Here's what I would ask myself before embarking on such a project: Are there comparable articles (by U.S. state) to use as models? Is Oregon special in some way? It seems like something that could go sideways rather easily, which may be why I was unable to find comparable articles. I have some thoughts below that may be helpful, and that I expect will lead you to topics that interest you.
- There is some good food for thought at Vanport, Oregon; Native American peoples of Oregon; History of Oregon#Racial discrimination; Racism in the United States; Segregation in Seattle (a stub); Hells Canyon Massacre (an article begging to be expanded).
- I would also look through Category:Racism and Category:Racism in the United States and Category:History of racial segregation in the United States and especially Category:History of racism in the United States to see if there are similar articles and to see how they are organized.
- Based on an initial look through those articles and categories, it seems like the practice has been to build articles related to a topic like "Racism in [state or country]" and then create a category like "History of racism in [state or country]" for those articles to live in, rather than building a "Racism in X" article.
- I also got distracted by this article about Japanese immigrants in Oregon. There is probably more good stuff on race relations, and references to sources, at the Oregon Encyclopedia. This article on Japantown in Portland, for example, is right up your alley! – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:37, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
Question: I've not even fully read through User:Jonesey95's reply above, but I ran across this article, in which someone describes "Portland's African-American culture -- a black culture distinct from ones found in the Bay Area and Chicago". Of course, this article alone does not justify the need for any specific article, but it does have me wonder if there is enough content and research to have an article dedicated to African Americans in Oregon, or even African Americans in Portland, Oregon. Thoughts? ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:58, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- Clearly there are a lot of neglected topics here. This exploration will keep you busy for a while. Take a look at Category:African-American history of Oregon and Category:African-American history by state to see if you can detect a pattern of typical articles of the type you think need to be created. I find that it is usually easier (i.e. less friction from other editors in the topic area) to create articles that follow an established pattern, including the format of the article title, the category structure, and the scope of the article (not too big or too small). – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:24, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
- A good topic...I thought we had already started something basic, but I may have been thinking of the tiny section in History in Oregon referenced above. I prefer the format Ethnic groups in.. which would permit framing issues of racism in the context of what racial groups (have) exist(ed) in the state to begin with. There are a handful of such articles relating to cities, but unfortunately Racism in... seems to be the common format for states. If we do this, an important angle not mentioned thus far is Chinese Americans especially in the building of the railroads. -Pete (talk) 21:02, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
- I have a feeling there could be articles about multiple ethnic groups in Portland and/or Oregon, but I wonder if they best route is to start with separate articles, or start with one and fork accordingly... ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:47, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
- Makes sense to split off articles if/when we have substantive content on each, but I'd start with building a single survey article. Today, the Atlantic published a great (and depressing) article. Also, some other useful links:
- The Racist History of Portland, the Whitest City in America
- Oregon Encyclopedia on Black Exclusion Laws
- We should make at least a stub on Oregon ballot measure 14 (2002) which finally removed racist language from the constitution
- Willamette Collegian article
- -Pete (talk) 01:54, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
- Makes sense to split off articles if/when we have substantive content on each, but I'd start with building a single survey article. Today, the Atlantic published a great (and depressing) article. Also, some other useful links:
- I have a feeling there could be articles about multiple ethnic groups in Portland and/or Oregon, but I wonder if they best route is to start with separate articles, or start with one and fork accordingly... ---Another Believer (Talk) 22:47, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
- A good topic...I thought we had already started something basic, but I may have been thinking of the tiny section in History in Oregon referenced above. I prefer the format Ethnic groups in.. which would permit framing issues of racism in the context of what racial groups (have) exist(ed) in the state to begin with. There are a handful of such articles relating to cities, but unfortunately Racism in... seems to be the common format for states. If we do this, an important angle not mentioned thus far is Chinese Americans especially in the building of the railroads. -Pete (talk) 21:02, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Stubs?
More thinking out loud here. I wonder if there should be articles for any of the following. Perhaps editors with more knowledge about geography and water systems have an opinion?
- Couch Lake (ref, ref)
- Paradise Springs (ref)
---Another Believer (Talk) 17:28, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Re: Portland Memorial Mausoleum Mural
If you happen to find yourself staring at the large herons on the side of the funeral home near Oaks Bottom, care to snap a photo for me? :) ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:00, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
Sort of early, but also late depending on you perspective - Next COTM
Missed updating for July (and June too), so starting early for August. Some progress was made on John Hubert Hall and Portland Art Museum.
This time it is the stubby Peter Stott Center at PSU and a redlink drive on the List of newspapers in Oregon. Have fun, but be safe. Aboutmovies (talk) 17:55, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
- Am I helping or hurting? I added a bunch more redlinks from Pamplin Media Group § Newspapers. In the process, I noticed that List of newspapers in Oregon includes the redlink Clackamas Review, but Pamplin Media Group includes the bluelink The Clackamas Review, which is actually a redirect back to Pamplin. We could make turn a lot of the redlinks blue by creating similar redirects, but I hardly think that would be very useful. YBG (talk) 05:20, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- There were three more redlinks at PMG that I didn't add 'cause I didn't know the location: Boom! Boomers and Beyond (which doesn't really sound like a newspaper), North Willamette News, and South County Spotlight. YBG (talk) 05:40, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
- More: The Spotlight is in Columbia County, not sure where. And the Bee is listed as a SE Portland newspaper, but historically (ie, pre-Pamplin) it is associated specifically with Sellwood. YBG (talk) 05:47, 30 July 2016 (UTC)