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- Thomas Verenna ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD · Stats)
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This article should be deleted immediately for the following reasons (with reference to the List of policies to cite in deletion debates):
(1) The entire page contains the problems in question; the page cannot be "spruced up" by quick edits or fixed with further information, since there is nothing that can warrant the inclusion of this article. (2) There are no arguments for notability here; the biographical stump on this page refers to a blogger and non-notable author. (3) The anti-advertising or anti-promotion clause is relevant here, since pages like this are overwhelming created by the individuals themselves to boost notability through inclusion in the Wikipedia format. (4) There are no relevant citations here that prove notability or significance. (5) The individual in question has no scholarly status (despite co-editing one scholarly book), no affiliation with a university, and no doctoral degree. (6) As an "author" or "creative professional," the individual is not regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors; the individual is not known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique; the individual is has not created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work, nor have any of the individual's works have been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews; and the individual's work has not garnered significant monument, has not been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, has not won significant critical attention, and is not represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums.
-cleavercor Verenna is notable in Bible studies academia. 96.29.176.92 (talk) 00:12, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
- Delete (for now). To date, nothing has been presented to support his notability. From the information in the article, he seems to be interested in Bible studies but there's nothing to suggest he has any formal education in the field or occupy any important academic position. He has edited a book, but so have loads of other people so if the only claim to fame is having edited a book, then I'd say delete. Jeppiz (talk) 14:25, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Google Scholar shows that he is notable within academia. His article is a stub, however that does not imply notability. 96.29.176.92 (talk) 19:20, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
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- If you believe Google Scholar to show him to be notable within academia, please provide a link. And please note that being searchable on Google Scholar applies to anyone who has written even a paper for minor conference and says nothing about notability. Once a person on Google Scholar is cited at least 10.000 times and has an h-index above 30-40, the person is most likely notable as an academic. There's nothing to suggest Verenna is even close to that. Existing and being notable are very different things. A search on Google Scholar makes it clear Verenna exists, but also that he is entirely non-notable. Jeppiz (talk) 23:27, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete not really a scholar at all, and certainly not cited enough to be notable, even by biblical studies standards. Not notable in any other way, either. StAnselm (talk) 03:49, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. Non-mainstream operators and eccentrics can be notable, but, from GS, this one does not achieve it. Xxanthippe (talk) 03:57, 13 June 2016 (UTC).
- Patricia Driscoll (executive) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD · Stats)
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Non notable author: her only actual book was self-published by her foundation when she was president of it. Foundation executive of slightly notable organization, does not prove notability. Most of the 3rd party references deal with an alleged crime that has not been proven, and therefore should not be included according to our bLP policy. DGG ( talk ) 21:39, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
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Does not meet any of the criteria at WP:ACADEMIC. LK (talk) 04:03, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
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- I really don't see a claim that he is notable as an academic. The claim to notability appears to be more as an author and businessperson. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:10, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete having his work published by the Washington Post and Wall Street Journal is not enough to make him notable. We lack sources to show anything else might.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:16, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
- Sharon Pearson ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD · Stats)
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Not notable as an author. The only book of hers in WorldCat, "Pathways to success and happiness" is self published and in no libraries. No reliable third party sources. See the AfD on her company, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Coaching Institute DGG ( talk ) 00:53, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as there's simply nothing at all convincing, especially not independently notable and anything that comes with her Institute is certainly not convincing either. Nothing at all better. SwisterTwister talk 02:52, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete per nomination. Fails WP:NAUTHOR and WP:BIO, no significant coverage online from WP:RS. Brief mention in the SMH six years ago for being one of several recipients of a low-notability small business award. OnionRing (talk) 06:12, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- Doug Baldwin (writer) ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD · Stats)
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non notable writer. Trivial awards. The only possibly substantial award is fro a playscript that was never produced DGG ( talk ) 06:54, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
- delete fails WP:CREATIVE. minor awards. LibStar (talk) 12:06, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Hannibal Tabu ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD · Stats)
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Non-notable writer. Currently there is only two links in the article, both to primary websites. I can't find any significant coverage in independent, reliable sources to meet WP:GNG and there is no evidence he meets WP:AUTHOR. Sarahj2107 (talk) 09:23, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete, no third-party sources, no assertion of notability. ✤ Fosse 8 ✤ 14:44, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as nothing for the needed solid independent notability. SwisterTwister talk 21:20, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Kasma Loha-unchit ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD · Stats)
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See WorldCat and my searches here, here and here (I also found nothing at Highbeam so I'm not listing that link); overall there's simply nothing else actually convincing. SwisterTwister talk 08:01, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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WP:BLP of a journalist, which makes no claim of notability for anything except the fact of his existence and which is sourced exclusively to a directory of his contributions on the website of a publication he contributes to -- thus constituting a primary source. As always, a person does not get a Wikipedia article by having an "our contributors" profile on the website of a media outlet he writes for -- he gets a Wikipedia article by being the subject of coverage in media outlets he doesn't write for. But I can't find any significant coverage of the type demanded by WP:GNG; I get a lot of glancing namechecks of his existence, but nothing in the realm of substantive coverage about him. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 18:25, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
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Probably keep Just added an article about the book he wrote, reliable source. There's probably more to add.E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:09, 1 June 2016 (UTC) typed his book into a google news search and BINGO [6]. Lots of sources. Article needs, expand, sourcing. User:Bearcat, You wanna rethink this one?E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:18, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
- Some IP address took the book and a University teaching appointment out of the article years ago. [7]. Vandalism; its a problem.E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:22, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
- Recommend Speedy Keeping this one; turns out there was a 2nd book, that got reviewed, covered. I haven't added it yet. Did add his co-founding of a successful company Figure 1. His Professor job. Still needs expanding. User:Bearcat, this brief, unsourced page sure looked like an obvious delete. I just thought I'd check if he had the kind of brief articles about his reporting, various jobs that some journalists have. Never expected this level of coverage. Remarkable, isn't it, the way non-notable people write themselves Wikipedia pages, but successful ones with lots of substantive accomplishments rarely do.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:23, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete instead as there's nothing, certainly, for notability at WP:PROF and then there's nothing to suggest the needed solid independent notability as an author either. SwisterTwister talk 08:04, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete unnotable writer.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:22, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Revisiting. Went to the page and did a minor expand, rewrite, sourcing - more oculd be done. However, I think editors looking at the page will see the both of his books garnered reviews in major media; he was interviewed as an author in Haaretz and profiles as an author on Voice of America; he had a magazine essay that hit a nerve and became the topic of a public conversation in Canada (his home country); and his bluelinked startup has been the subject of both business media coverage and color stories. There's more that could be added. I don't want to overstuff the page - he's young, I suspect that there will be more. Just, there seems to be more than enough to pass WP:GNG.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:45, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
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Non-notable individual lacking non-trivial support. reddogsix (talk) 13:35, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
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Exercising admirable unbiased objective restraint, GorgeCustersSabre and Kashmiri (who for reasons best known to themselves are extremely reluctant to reveal their true identities and use their own names) have deleted most of this Article in double quick time – but they have not gone nearly far enough, especially since Ahmad Thomson himself recognises that he is both lowly insignificant and not at all notable – and to quote Little Big Man (Thomas Berger, Vintage Classics, 1999), the Article's life "is not worth the reversal of a Custer decision". This Article was originally created in order to attack Ahmad Thomson (which is not included as a valid objective for contributing to Wikipedia) and, more than 10 years on, it is now high time that the historical grievance of Klonimus and Babajobu should be laid to rest and Ahmad Thomson's right to privacy and desire for anonymity be respected, so that all may be well and Wikilove flourish and prosper! – signed: Ahmad Thomson. Ahmad Thomson 07:14, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
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- On a second thought, I am leaning delete - the subject's shortlived fame was actually WP:ONEEVENT in 2005 and was a result of two newspaper articles, with little or no followup aterwards. Sure, Thomson has authored a few books, but I couldn't find any mainstream reviews (apart from those two newspaper articles picking up on one of them). Being on a few TV shows or making legal representations to the legislature does not satisfy WP:NBIO, as GorgeCustersSabre already wrote below. — kashmiri TALK 12:46, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete: I am very frustrated by Ahmad Thomson's interference in the editing of this page. He has made things worse even today, rather than letting editors just get on and solve the problem. Earlier today I wrote: "I would like to propose deleting the page, but would like the views of other editors before I go ahead and create the deletion nomination." What did he do? He rushed to nominate the deletion without waiting to see what others thought. Like kashmiri, I also feel put off by his bullish attitude and patronizing manner in dealing with editors. So why do I think the article should be deleted? Because Thomson simply isn't genuinely notable. He has authored books, but none has made an impact or been discussed much. He has appeared on a few tv programmes, but so have many others without Wikipedia pages. He was mentioned twice in mainstream, third-party newspapers in 2005 for having shared some views which were reportedly mistaken or disagreeable, but so what? That hardly establishes notability, and it fails to pass the WP:SINGLEEVENT test. He is not a public figure. I recommend deletion of the Ahmad Thomson page and its accompanying talk page. George Custer's Sabre (talk) 11:04, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
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- I just want to point out that while only 2 newspapers are cited on the page in re: 2005 statement, a search produces coverage of his statements about Blair and Iraq in a great many newspapers.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:59, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Delete KEEP NEUTRAL (EDIT: re-read all material found on the guy this morning and honestly at this point am unsure whether his notability is clear. WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE seems appropriate for the time being as per other editors): (First off, hat tip to GCS and Kashmiri for editing on the article and dealing with difficulty) Uninvolved editor. LexisNexis has 22 hits for the name. However, not one rises beyond WP:ONEEVENT that Kashmiri mentions or trivial mentions as covered by WP:GNG. 12 refer to the one event (9 in September 2005, and 3 trivial mentions since then). The remaining are quotes attributed to him, but all are trivial mentions with no additional context about the person. I am not concerned with the motivation for the creation of the page, but would not consider the person notable at this point. The whole of coverage does not pass WP:NTEMPWP:ONEEVENT (EDIT, not NTEMP but single event should be the policy referred to here) or the non-trivial aspect of WP:GNG. AbstractIllusions (talk) 14:47, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete: responding to this AfD after Gorge asked me to look at the article itself. This seems like an open and shut case. The coverage hasn't been sustained in the past ten years, plus - as mentioned above - the subject of this BLP has requested deletion, and their request falls within the parameters for deletion mentioned in the policy. MezzoMezzo (talk) 07:20, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Article is poorly sourced and has a self-promoting tone, including a great deal of citation of facts to Thomson himself. The claim to notability at first blush appears to be that he founded the Association of Muslim Lawyers, another self-sources, apparent self-promotion. However, as I continued reading, and, especially, when I read MezzoMezzo's comment that the Thomson has asked to have the article deleted I began to suspect subjects reasons for having the article deleted. A news search quickly turned up a 2015 article in the Wall Street Journal about Thomson's testimony in defense of Al-Qaeda operative Khalid al-Fawwaz, convicted after this article ran and now serving a life sentence. (Deliberations to Begin in Trial Over 1998 U.S. Embassy Bombings; Saudi man accused of playing key role in al Qaeda attack. Hong, Nicole. View Profile. Wall Street Journal (Online) [New York, N.Y] 19 Feb 2015 [8]) Here is the relevant passage: " Ahmad Thomson, a London-based lawyer who testified for the defense, said he helped draft a constitution for the Advice and Reform Committee, the group that Mr. al-Fawwaz led in London after moving there in 1994. Mr. Thomson testified that the group was trying to promote "peaceful and constructive reform" in Saudi Arabia. However, prosecutors say the organization was just a front for al Qaeda's activities." Moreover, this cannot be a ONEEVENT since Thomson has sought a role as a spokesman for Islam in the U.K. Here on Polygamy: " Ahmad Thomson, a barrister and founder of the Association of Muslim Lawyers, said that polygamous marriages could work in Britain if all parties were open and in agreement. But "sometimes the husband has tried to keep the earlier marriage secret. When the second or third wife finds out, it's devastating," he added. " ('DEATH OF EX FACE OF ASIA EXPOSES MURKY WORLD OF MUSLIM POLYGAMY IN UK' (RE-ISSUE). The Hindustan Times [New Delhi] 28 Dec 2008. [9]). Here on anti-Muslim media bias: " Ahmad Thomson, a leading barrister and co-founder of the Association of Muslim lawyers, who is also supporting calls for an inquiry, said he believed that most members of the public were unaware of the "depth of the vilification of Muslims" in the media. "I think the thing is that [an inquiry] will make people think and, if it gets on to the mainstream media, people will look at it more closely," he said. "In the long term, the object of this exercise is to raise standards of reporting in whatever form of media, as well as heightening public awareness of this issue. Maybe they would look at their fellow human beings in a much more favourable light if only the media would let them." (Calls for UK inquiry into 'anti-Muslim media bias'. The National [Abu Dhabi] 27 Jan 2012. [10]) There are a lot more quotes, over many years on many issues. Moreover the 2005 incident where he asserted that "Jews and Freemasons" were responsible for Prime Minister's Blair's decision to go to war in Iraq was quite a flap, extensively covered at the time. In conclusion, he stepped forward as a spokesman for Islam not once, but repeatedly. Solid sourcing exists for this role. His testimony in that Al Qaeda trial happened. The article needs editing and better sourcing, not deletion. E.M.Gregory (talk) 21:00, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Anthony Julius has a discussion of Thomson in Chapter 8 of Trials of the Diaspora: A History of Anti-Semitism in England.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:39, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Added some material on Thomson from a Robert S. Wistrich to the page, this one I was able to easily access on books google.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:54, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Added some material on his geo-polical ideas from a Jean-Pierre Filiu book accessible on books google. More could be added from that book, and probably should. Cheers.E.M.Gregory (talk) 12:19, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- E.M.Gregory Thanks for a detailed analysis. Links you listed don't work without subscription to ProQuest - any chances for public links? Thanks. — kashmiri TALK 06:40, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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- User:Kashmiri, I apologize for that. And I want to say that the first page of my first quick news google search showed little - that's when I went to Proquest. Wikipedia has arrangements to get qualified editors who request it past many paywalls. It is possible to search other ways, such as going through the many pages of a google news search on Ahmad Thomson, or searching the web sites of the individual newspapers. Here, or example, is the Wall Street Journal article where he testifies to working with a group that prosecutors call an Al Qaeda front.[11].E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:20, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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- E.M.Gregory Yeah, these are all still (very, very) trivial mentions. Being a go-to quote for journalists does not seem to me to make someone notable. I've gone through Proquest and Lexis and don't know much more than that he is a London-based lawyer who said something in 2005 that got some coverage and has some other opinions. To see how trivial the mentions are, in the Wall Street Journal article you link to he is the 9th and last person mentioned in that article. You don't get more of a trivial mention than that. And if his only notability really is his link to Association of Muslim Lawyers, then it should be merged there. Right? I'm staying Delete (MERGE cool too) until there is a non-trivial mention from a source. But so far, none of the hits in Lexus or Proquest are). Indeed, after searching Proquest I'm actually more committed because there's only 3 mentions of the guy in Newspapers or Articles. Two in 2005 and the WSJ in 2015. This is actually a great example of someone who is ONEEVENT+trivial mentions otherwise. For me, that ain't even close to notable. AbstractIllusions (talk) 12:04, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- I second AbstractIllusions here. The WSJ only mentions Thomson as the lawyer who helped to draft a certain legal document - this is way too WP:TRIVIAL to make the person notable. I haven't checked ProQuest but assuming AI's assertion above is true, all these mentions are insufficient for a Wikipedia biography. Actually, your detailed research has given me an increased confidence that Thomson indeed is not notable. — kashmiri TALK 12:16, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Alright, changed to Keep above. The Filiu source did it. That is significant coverage of his ideas in a book. The media coverage still doesn't do it for me, but a couple paragraph discussion in academic book with all the trivial mentions. Cool. AbstractIllusions (talk) 12:39, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Still DELETE from me, because a single book chapter does not account for significant coverage in multiple sources as required by BLP (underline mine). Non-BLP compliant equals delete for me. — kashmiri TALK 13:45, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Per the sources presented by E.M. Gregory.
CaseeArt Talk 04:11, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable individual per WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE. Note to Ahmad Thomson: If this AfD does not close with the deletion of the article, file a complaint with WP:OTRS to have it removed. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 02:37, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Malik Shabazz Apologies, I'm getting back into wikipedia after a long break. Could you explain more about how you think WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE applies to this situation. The way I read the policy: If person is not notable and requests delete, then delete. But isn't that what we are trying to hash out, is dude notable or not? I think E.M. Gregory has made a convincing case for base notability. His writings have been featured in multiple books about Islamic thought (I even found an academic book that refers to him in a list of "well-known names"). That sorta makes it so that BLPREQUEST doesn't apply. But if you have a better reading of BLPREQUESTDELETE, I might have to flip on back. Thanks for the time, just want to help get this right. AbstractIllusions (talk) 16:36, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
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- I think Malik Shabazz is right that if Ahmad Thomson has any notability at all, it certainly isn't much, and because Thomson opposes the article and requests its deletion, it could be deleted according to WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE. The policy is precisely for marginal cases like this. George Custer's Sabre (talk) 17:06, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- So, your reading (and I agree, I think) is in case of request, "tie" (not literal) goes towards delete. OK. That's fair. But that's for closing admin to consider, and isn't a policy that helps us ascertain notability. I agree that newspaper coverage is quite marginal and likely to make weight in the article very difficult to get right, but if an academic expert in the topic mentions a person in the same breath as Yusuf Islam as a prominent British Muslim convert, that raises the evidence bar for a 'Delete' vote. I still see him as clearly passing GNG (which is the policy we should be looking at, and not BLPREQUEST, which is unhelpful) AbstractIllusions (talk) 17:26, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- I'm sorry if I wasn't 100% clear. I expressed my opinion (delete this article about a "non-notable individual") and added the reference to WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE because, in my experience, many editors -- including administrators -- don't know all the BLP rules. It's also my opinion that if we have to debate the notability of an individual who has asked to have his biography deleted, it should be deleted. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 17:56, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
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- I could not agree more with MShabazz! George Custer's Sabre (talk) 18:07, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Still clears the bar for me, and it isn't even that close. But, it is all good. AbstractIllusions (talk) 20:18, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
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I came across this via his book Deadrise, which was recently created and which I'm also going to include in this AfD.
I searched for coverage, but ultimately I can't find anything to show that Whitehill would pass notability guidelines for authors, actors, or GNG in general. The only coverage I've found are two articles that read suspiciously like they were based on press releases (or are just reprints of press releases). There is also a Kirkus Review, but it was reviewed via Kirkus Indie, its pay review outlet, so it can't be seen as a RS in any form. Ultimately I don't see where Whitehill passes notability guidelines. I also don't see where his work in other avenues (screenwriting) has received any coverage to where they'd be seen as notable. A prior version of the article claims that he's won awards, but I don't see where these awards are major since they don't really come up in a search.
Of note is that I did remove two sources, a blog post and an Amazon link, neither of which would be seen as RS in any form or fashion. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 09:48, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
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Subject of the article is non-notable. All but one sources on the page are self-published sources from organizations that the subject has created. A google search also links to those same self-created organizations. Jeff3000 (talk) 02:24, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
Subject of the article is the co-founder of a religious denomination with a presence in 16 states. He has also authored two books. A35821361 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:17, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
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- That doesn't make him notable in the context of Wikipedia. Anyone can author any number of books. Notability is based on the number of non-self-published reliable sources. -- 01:46, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete as nothing particularly convincing for any solid independent notability, nothing else to therefore suggest salvageability and keeping. SwisterTwister talk 01:07, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete I don't see convincing evidence of action beyond a single church community and the "recent comments" on their meetings are 2013 and "recent posts" are from 2015 even for that one. One page lists two churches as members of the association. The books don't count.--Smkolins (talk) 01:29, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
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There do not exist enough independent sources to establish the requisite notability for this fringe BLP. jps (talk) 15:58, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete lack of enough independent sources.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:03, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- Comment Presently utterly deletable, but I've pinged fringe enthusiasts on my Facebook to see if there's anything of note about him - David Gerard (talk) 11:57, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- Comment: The Orion Mystery received quite a lot of attention, but his co-author Robert Bauval, who later teamed up with Graham Hancock, seems to receive the majority of the credit. IIRC there was some media interest following the BBC’s being found unfair to their pareidolic theories about the Pyramids in a documentry, which was reissued to include their rebuttal. All in all Gilbert must have sold a few million books, but of itself that doesn’t seem to satisfy WP:AUTHOR.—Odysseus1479 19:37, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- He's published by Penguin who claim him as a best-seller. There should be sources on him ... - David Gerard (talk) 21:07, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
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- A few points: I don’t see him mentioned at all in pages about the BBC controversy, just Bauval & Hancock, so apologies for the ‘garden path’. His 2012-Mayan-apocalypse work has attracted lots of blogging & user-contributed reviews, but no RS that I can find so far. His website went offline around 2011; I browsed a bit through the last useful Wayback Machine capture in search of press links without finding any.—Odysseus1479 22:40, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- Searching JSTOR turns up one slightly promising lead, if anyone has a subscription to the Atlantic: a review of the January 2000 cover story (of which I can only see the title and tagline) briefly discusses his mention there, characterizing him as a “popular paranormalist”.[2] Also found: one brief, dismissive review in The Furrow, brief mentions in Folklore (on the London Stone} and Isis (in a review of Ed Krupp}, and listings in Science’s “Books Received”. Cites for these minor mentions available on request, if anyone thinks they might be useful.—Odysseus1479 23:38, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as searches have found nothing better and there's nothing else noticeably convincing here. SwisterTwister talk 05:55, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete without prejudice - he's someone there should be coverage of, but nobody's managed to find it and we really can't have a BLP without it - David Gerard (talk) 11:21, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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Appears to be a non-notable natural health guru. Sources do not establish notability. The most biographical detail comes from Quackwatch (which is considered a reliable source), but other sources are dead links or don't cover him in depth. Fails WP:BASIC and WP:ACADEMIC. His bibliography is impressive, but oriented to a fringe alt-med community, so it appears his notability is hardly mainstream. Delta13C (talk) 18:16, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Currently uncertain but may consider Delete because the WorldCat shows 1,739 which may not be enough and the article contains noticeable claims, but my searches have found nothing outstandingly better, delete perhaps unless this can be substantially improved. Notifying DGG for subject analysis. SwisterTwister talk 05:36, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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- It is problematic that the provenance of his PhD and ND degrees cannot be determined. This is reflected in the remark in the Quackwatch article on him that states that his educational background is nowhere to be found. I could not find more details other than he is "Russian educated": I found a reference for him in MacLeans's (Oct. 27 1980), edited by Marsha Boulton, pg. 43:
It is better to eat junk food and exercise a lot than to eat healthy foods and not exercise at all," comes the word from Dr. Paavo Airola. The 66-year old Finnish-born, Swedish and Russian-educated nutritionist, who took out Canadian citizenship and now lives in Arizona, is on a continuing rampage in favor of sit-ups and against the evils of protein, an excess of which he believes causes cancer. He also blames refrigerators for causing bad health by encouraging people to eat old food. Even granola, the crunchy delight of health-food faddists, cannot escape his wrath. The great granola dilemma is apparantely the shelf life that allows air to ravage the contents. Quite simply, says Airola: "It's rancid."
There are other sources that mention him, but they come from sources that are fringe, which include the Townsend Letter and other natural health magazines. Delta13C (talk) 07:14, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. promotional article whose facts cannot be verified. We cover notable quacks, if there's enough information for an objective article. None of his books seem to be in more than 200libraries, which is trivial in this field. None of them are published by an established publisher- not even an established specialist publisher in the field of natural health or alt med. In fact, it has published only his own books, plus a book written by his daughter. That means his books are essentially self-published. We very rarely cover self-published authors in any subject except in the rare cases where they really do attract significant outside notice DGG ( talk ) 15:38, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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The result was delete. Noting that the Jessica Eppley article has already been speedy deleted by Iridescent per CSD A7: Article about a real person, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 12:57, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
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Non-notable series of books. TheLongTone (talk) 14:17, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- I'm also nominating a biog of the author;
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- Delete both. The only source used in these articles is the author's own web site. No independent reliable sources have been provided. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 15:18, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete both. The only 3rd party news source I can find that mentions Eppley or her series is here, where she is mentioned in passing in a sidebar as one of several authors attending an "Independent Bookstore Day" event. Both fail WP:GNG, the series fails WP:NBOOK, and Eppley herself fails WP:AUTHOR. RA0808 talkcontribs 18:00, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete both, neither meet WP:GNG, nothing found apart from book selling sites, looks like WP:PROMOTION. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:16, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete both. I can't find anything for either the books or their author to suggest that they pass notability guidelines. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 08:23, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete both and I have speedied the author for now as there's clearly nothing at all even for any basic notability, by far nothing at all acceptable. SwisterTwister talk 06:00, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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Can't find anything to suggest notability for these books. TheLongTone (talk) 14:09, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
KEEP Article was updated with numerous links and interviews. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:9389:5500:E883:ACF8:A2DB:2B83 (talk) 13:06, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
http://uparoundthecorner.blogspot.com/2014/08/interview-with-author-steven-campbell.html
http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2016/02/interview-sci-fi-humor-author-hard-luck-hank-series/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:9389:5500:F181:D103:FDBB:A7AB (talk) 16:46, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
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- These reviews are not from adequate sources. Goodreads for the live of Mike.TheLongTone (talk) 13:17, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- Interviews tend to be a bit questionable on here. I personally see them as a sign of notability since being interviewed by a RS like the dearly departed SF Signal is no small feat, however one interview isn't enough to keep an article and so far that's the strongest source I saw on the page. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 07:36, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- On a side note, I'm removing the section about reception since it's solely sourced to random user reviews on various websites, none of which are selective about who posts reviews. Anyone can review there and as such, Wikipedia does not care about the user ratings on those sites unless said ratings have received coverage ala Saving Christmas or Bend, Not Break. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 07:38, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- Also, we should avoid linking to e-commerce sites in general since their primary goal is to sell you something, which can give off the impression of a potential bias. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 07:39, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
I am also nominating a biog of the author:
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- Delete Hard Luck Hank. I can't see where these books have received any coverage outside of the SF Signal interview, which as stated above is not enough to assert notability in and of itself. It's extremely difficult for self-published series to gain enough coverage to warrant inclusion and for every WOOL there are thousands of non-notable books, however Wikipedia cannot and should not be expected to make up the difference. I'll do a separate search for the author, but offhand I'm expecting for his article to fail as well. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 07:47, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep Hard Luck Hank. Per above, for every Pulp Fiction there are thousands of movies that cost $30,000 and yet they are still on Wikipedia. The series is from a professional author [per facebook]. Why do editors have an axe against books but let even the most obscure film or even short film pass even if the money and audience involved favors the novels? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:9389:5500:D36:A1D7:AC07:7265 (talk) 17:27, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete Steven Campbell (author). I can't find anything to suggest that Campbell is notable either. Sometimes authors can achieve independent notability even if their body of work fails NBOOK, but this isn't one of those cases. It looks like the only coverage he's received in RS has been the SF Signal interview. Everything else has been primary or in self-published sources like blogs and the like, not in any place that Wikipedia would consider reliable. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 08:20, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. both the book series and the author. The books are self published, and worldcat shows only the first 3; only the first 2 have library holdings--in each case, 2 libraries. A person's claims to be a professional writer can not be supported merely by saying so on Facebook. DGG ( talk ) 23:52, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
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I could not find any notability regarding this person, google search returns no results, similarly no results in google news or books. Speedy delete request contested by an IP claiming He was published in regional newspapers and international anthologies, but I could not verify that claims. Article currently cites no sources. Darwinian Ape talk 13:29, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
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Speedy Delete Non-notable self-promo which might I add is unsourced. Valoem talk contrib 14:00, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
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- It may well be that Choudhuri is not notable, but what is your basis for speedy deletion? 86.17.222.157 (talk) 19:43, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Comment, I will hold off for a Hindi search Google search brought "0" results [12]. News search has shown the same thing [13]. A book search [14] has brought these two sources [15], [16] I believe they are not talking about this person. Valoem talk contrib 21:32, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- Hold until we have someone verify that there are no adequate sources in either Bengali or Hindi.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:25, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
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Non-notable vanity page Lythalicious (talk) 15:36, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
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I recently reviewed this and I'm simply not seeing any actual convincing notability at all, the sources are not convincing along with the information and my searches have found nothing better at all also. SwisterTwister talk 19:17, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete non-notable playwright.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:36, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- Weak Keep, pending additional work on the article. She is an AUDELCO award winner, which is to "honor excellence in New York African American Theatre." I think this might be a TOOSOON, but I'd like to see someone look into the degree to which the AUDELCO award should be a significant factor. I'm not a theater buff, but when we, for example, do up articles on winners of American Idol, I think we need to be sure not to discount people's accomplishments just because they aren't on the television. Montanabw(talk) 17:29, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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WP:BLP, based entirely on primary sources with the closest thing anywhere in the entire article to a reliable source being the purely WP:ROUTINE death notice of his father, of a writer and musician whose claims to passing WP:CREATIVE have a decidedly advertorial, rather than encyclopedic, skew to them. As always, Wikipedia is not a free public relations platform on which anybody is entitled to an article just because they exist -- it's an encyclopedia, on which reliable source coverage, supporting a credible notability claim, must be present for an article to become earned. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 17:39, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete being the most published in any field is not notable, especially one as narrow as the geneology of a particular country, especially when some of it is republishing works. Being prolific is not the same things as being impactful, especially in the era of the blog.John Pack Lambert (talk) 01:49, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as WorldCat showed nothing and my searches found only one actual link, a November 2015 news article, and there's by far nothing to suggest minimally better regarding article improvements thus delete as there's no hope. SwisterTwister talk 23:31, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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Vanity piece by a likely COI editor, and part of a walled garden/directory related to Flybridge Capital Partners. Person appears not to be notable by our standards; being a blogger and having published one single book (no decent reviews are listed) does not make for notability. Internet hits in reliable sources do not discuss him outside of his job. Drmies (talk) 16:47, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- Yes I am new to adding notes but don't you have to start somewhere? I am not sure I am adding this in the right place but Jeff Bussgang is one of the most well-known investors in Boston. Why does Mark Suster and Fred Wilson (financier) have accounts? They are all on the same level, widely recognized venture capitalists that are highly searched. I am unsure of why you would take this down when those investors of the same caliber and validity are shared. I am not a COI editor, I am not getting paid. This is not part of a walled garden or directory there is no need to promote Jeff Bussgang everybody interested already knows who he is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SmokeyArtichoke (talk • contribs) 16:59, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
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- Sure, but it's best to start with reliable secondary sources that indicate the person's notability. Drmies (talk) 17:55, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
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- @SmokeyArtichoke: - just as a reminder, Nick, we can Google you. I think some truthfulness about your connections to this company and to "DavidLorentz" might be in order. Blythwood (talk) 20:07, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
- Ok. I have made many mistakes in this process. I am very new to Wikipedia. Is there something I can do to fix this? Take down all profile pages, all links that may be considered "promotional." If a bunch of other people come in and edit it, does it stay live? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SmokeyArtichoke (talk • contribs) 13:15, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
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- You are the Content Manager at Flybridge Capital Partners. This is a pretty heavy conflict of interest, and, along with the fact that yours is a Single-purpose account, creates a strong presumption that your main interest is to promote your employer, rather than build an encyclopedia. The article can be saved if someone can demonstrate that Bussgang is truly notable, by showing that he has "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Having "a bunch of other people" edit the article doesn't make much of a difference, unless they can do this. If the "bunch of other people" turns out to be different accounts opened by you and other employees of Flybridge, it may make things worse.
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- Re your conflict of interest: please read WP:COIPAYDISCLOSE and Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure and follow the rules. You say on the talk page that "I am a student at Northeastern University interested in investing/startups". Even if true, this is disingenuous if you work for Flybridge. ubiquity (talk) 13:47, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - Just doesn't seem convincing. Of the sources, many don't even mention him, just the company he works for with no description of his involvement. C14 doesn't mention either. Many assertions in the article are unsourced. I just feel that if Mr. Bussgang wants a webpage about himself the place for it is his personal website or that of his employer. Blythwood (talk) 21:24, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
- Keep - I hunted down good sources that clearly demonstrate notability - they just need to be integrated. This Boston Magazine article lists Bussgang as one of Boston's 50 most powerful people [17]. Here are Boston Globe[18], CNN Money[19] and Boston Business Journal[20] articles discussing Bussgang and Massachusetts' Global Entrepreneurs in Residence program, which was his brainchild. Here's an interview in MIT's Entrepreneurship Review on Bussgang and his book [21]. Here's more coverage of Bussgang in the Boston Globe's beta Boston web site.[22] Here is an interview from the Tech in Boston podcast [23]. Plenty of good material to flush out his article there. Here's a Boston Biotech Watch review of the book [24], and Wall Street Journal blog coverage of the book.[25]. This page[26] has good info on his role at the Harvard Business School, and at the bottom lists some of the notable Harvard Business School case studies of his roles at previous companies uPromise and Open Market. Seems pretty notable to me. Isn't one of the COI guidelines for good Wiki citizenship that whoever flags the article as such needs to post their specific edit concerns on the talk page? I only see comments there from the original author. This deletion discussion should be separate from the COI discussion. These guidelines properly get people to focus on the edits, and not the editor and his/her motivation, or else our well-intentioned efforts here might accidentally block good info for the wrong reasons.Timtempleton (talk) 22:37, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
- Keep As the co-founder of the GEIR program, Jeff Bussgang has played and continues to play a key national role in immigration reform for entrepreneurs and recently debriefed the Obama administration on this topic. His model for helping foreign entrepreneurs successfully grow their business in the United States through university sponsorship, is now being scaled across the country. As a venture capitalist, some of Mr. Bussgang's investments have revolutionized their respective industries - such as Brontes and MongoDB. These successes along with his blog and his book, Mastering the VC Game - a staple read for many entrepreneurs, have propelled Bussgang as a thought leader in the VC community. Finally, as a lecturer at Harvard Business School, Mr. Bussgang has written a number of cases that highlight female protagonists in order to help correct the gender imbalance in the HBS case method. He is therefore regarded as one of the most forward thinking VC's in terms of supporting female entrepreneurs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HTolani (talk • contribs) 19:33, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
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Keep Jeff Bussgang is one of the most respected venture investors in the Boston area (with over 38K twitter followers https://twitter.com/bussgang) and a senior lecturer at Harvard Business School. His course Launching Tech Ventures, is consistently ranked amongst the top in the 2nd year (Elective Curriculum) rankings at HBS. The article merely states facts about Jeff and while it could have more details, I see no reason to remove it. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia provides information about prominent investors such as Fred Wilson (USV), John Doerr (KPCB), Rich Miner (GV) amongst many others. I don't see how addition of Jeff's page is a violation of Wikipedia guidelines or its principles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sparsh ag (talk • contribs) 15:41, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as there's still nothing suggesting the needed established independent notability. SwisterTwister talk 05:51, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Keep – Upon a review of available sources about the subject, he meets WP:BASIC, thus qualifying for a Wikipedia article. North America1000 17:03, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. His book, which was published by the business division on Penguin, is only in about 200 libraries,which is on the low side for a popular business book. The reviews are non-substantial. Furthermore the comments by the single purpose accounts above must be discounted; they would seem to represent a concerted effort of those who know him personally to keep the articles . Borderline notability combined with clear promotionalism is an very good reason for deletion, especially when the promotionalism is proven to come from a coi editor. Accepting articles that are part of a promotional campaign causes great damage. Once we become a vehicle for promotion, we're useless as an encyclopedia DGG ( talk ) 22:49, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
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I did a quick search of this subject and I see no reliable source discussing the subject. Fails WP:GNG Jamie Tubers (talk) 11:22, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 21:49, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep At least Google the subject first. Reuters, Daily Mail and US govt. websites are reliable sources. Look here, here and here. Wikimayor (talk) 23:36, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Comment @Wikimayor: those are articles written by the subject. The subject hasn't be discussed in any reliable source. —Oluwa2Chainz »» (talk to me) 07:44, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- Comment @Oluwa2Chainz: I take it you mean "hasn't been", not "hasn't be". Still doesn't take away the fact that this is a writer who has written for reliable sources. What if his policy is not to grant interviews? A notable writer is not the same as a notable celebrity. One discusses in reliable sources and the other is discussed in reliable sources. An unbiased admin should look at the substance of this logic. —Wikimayor »» (talk to me) 07:44, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete: The subject of this article fails WP:GNG. Writing about notable people or for notable newspapers doesn't make one notable. In order for a subject to have a stand alone article, references must show that the subject has been discussed in significant detail. Versace1608 Wanna Talk? 21:34, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- Keep: Both The Guardian and Ventures Africa have confirmed this person as a notable writer. Also in this publication here it says "Eromo Egbejule for YNaija, part of the Guardian Africa network" while here it says "The Guardian (London) reminds its readers that it has been one year since boko haram massacred an estimated 2,000 people and, in effect, destroyed Baga, a city of 300,000 in northern Nigeria. Its correspondent, Eromo Egbejule reports that the city remains virtually empty, with less than one thousand people still living there." This also affirms that he is a notable reporter. The article appears on the Council on Foreign Relations website. All these couple with the fact that he has written for several notable news medias including Daily Mail and Reuters makes him worthy of a page here on the English Wikipedia. Stanleytux (talk) 11:14, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
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- @Stanleytux: Wikipedia's definition of notability is not synonymous with that of the The Guardian and Ventures Africa. The subject fails WP:GNG and there shouldn't be a page about him. The newspaper sources you mentioned only wrote a sentence about him. This is not sufficient for a stand alone article. The Guardian and Ventures Africa sources cannot be considered notable since they are not independent of the subject. The fact that he is a correspondent for The Guardian newspaper shows that it cannot be considered reliable in this instance. Versace1608 Wanna Talk? 22:00, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
- Found another news article that talks about Egbejule being a writer and a journalist. This time it's from the CNN, saying CNN iReporter Eromo Egbejule, a Nigerian freelance journalist, attended a protest concert in Lagos Tuesday staged by musician Femi Kuti, son of the legendary Fela Kuti, and said he was proud to be there. "Nigeria loves peace and this is why we are peacefully protesting, even though the Nigerian police and army have inflicted injuries and in some cases, killed innocent people," Egbejule said. From all the reliable sources presented above, it can be derived that "Eromo Egbejule is a Nigerian writer and journalist who has worked for several well known news medias including CNN, Reuters, Daily Mail, YNaija, Ventures Africa and The Guardian, among others. In 2014, he won a grant from the Prince Claus Fund for Culture & Development to lecture in Mexico." Now lets say this was written as a stub article, there are certainly enough reliable sources out there to support these claims. Stanleytux (talk) 00:10, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- Again, CNN is not reliable in this instance since he is affiliated with the news source. All of the news websites you've mentioned above are not reliable since the subject is affiliated with all of them. Versace1608 Wanna Talk? 02:07, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- Guess what you are trying to say is that CNN, Reuters, Daily Mail, YNaija, Ventures Africa, The Guardian etc are serving as WP:PRIMARY but what about the Council on Foreign Relations source? Also note that primary sources are generally considered to be independent or third-party sources when reputably published. You can't tell us that CNN, Reuters, Daily Mail, YNaija, Ventures Africa, The Guardian etc aren't reputable news medias. Stanleytux (talk) 05:35, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- @Stanleytux: I am not telling you that those news websites aren't notable overall. I am telling you that the sources you mentioned are not independent of the subject since he is affiliated with them. WP:INDY is an essay and not a Wikipedia policy. Per WP:PSTS, Secondary or tertiary sources are needed to establish the topic's notability and to avoid novel interpretations of primary sources. None of the sources you mentioned are secondary sources. The Council on Foreign Relations blog source is simply an extension of the info reported by The Guardian newspaper. The subject is mentioned because he is the one reporting for The Guardian. Moreover, the subject is only mentioned once in the Council on Foreign Relations article and is not discussed no where in the article. Versace1608 Wanna Talk? 22:57, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- There are also links to Mail & Guardian, Daily Mail and foreign-language websites in Italian and French. He was also named in the 20 Influential Nigerians Under 20 in this 2010 report where a whole paragraph is dedicated to him. Wikimayor (talk) 09:40, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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The subject herself actually contacted me, saying there are apparently inaccuracies here, but with examining this, my searches have found nothing better at all aside from her own articles, no reviews or anything else to suggest notability; searches were at News, browsers and Highbeam which were the only ones that actually gave links. SwisterTwister talk 04:46, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
- Support Appears to fail WP:GNG, lack of significant coverage. Nothing that really seems to establish why she would be notable. --Cameron11598 (Talk) 04:51, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete Fails WP:GNG - references are not substantial or indepedant of the subject Deathlibrarian (talk) 05:34, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - She's associated with various notable publications, but I don't see any particular reason to think of herself as individually notable. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 07:58, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
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per long-standing policy in edge cases like these. (WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE) shoy (reactions) 15:03, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Actually she never asked this to be deleted, she simply mentioned these mistakes and also offered to fix them herself. SwisterTwister talk 18:00, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
- I stand corrected, but it still fails GNG. shoy (reactions) 18:07, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Keep Syme is a very well-known journalist. The page may have been created or edited by people who don't check their facts, We deal with that the usual way; it happens to a lot of articles. Symes made her name writing for New_York_Post#Page_Six The celebrity gossip page, The must-read page for power New York. She puts herself into the story [27], she gets written about [28], she becomes the story [[29]] I'll bring more sources, but she is one of the hot journalists of the moment. I am having difficulty finding an argument for deleting this. What it need is improvement.E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:33, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
- ″Keep per E.M.Gregory. Article needs improvement but not deletion. There's a difference. Montanabw(talk) 05:47, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
- Note Post-modern profile here: [30] on Amy Poehler's Smart Girls.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:04, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Keep per references provided by E.M.Gregory. Improvement over deletion. Anarchyte (work | talk) 01:45, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete. I consider E.M.Gregory's sources to show that she's very good at self-promotion. I don't regard that as a reason to keep as a notable self-promotor, but rather to delete as an attempted addition to her string of advertisements for herself. DGG ( talk ) 22:01, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
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Non notable plastic surgeon. His book is in only 113 libraries; his second seems to be self-published. For a plastic surgeon to be featured on a few TV programs means he has a good PR agent and nothing more. He does seem to know a number of notable people, but that doesn't count much here. DGG ( talk ) 21:06, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
- Weak keep. Howard Bellin actually has been one of New York's best known plastic surgeons going back to the 1960s, although some of this notoriety related to his colorful role in New York society and his tempestuous open marriages to model Christina Paolozzi Bellin, who was noted among other things for being the first model to pose nude in Harper's Bazaar.[31][32][33] A 1993 Washington Post article sums up nicely: Bellin "was for a long time one of the city's major jet-setters, married to a wealthy countess with whom he had a well-publicized open marriage that lasted 18 years before their first divorce. Then she developed a brain tumor and they remarried, and divorced again when she seemed to be recovering. She died in 1988. He was also once famous for having been sued successfully by a woman who claimed he misaligned her belly button during tummy tuck surgery. She was awarded $854,219, later reduced to $200,000, but he said in newspaper stories at the time that his business had boomed as a result of all the publicity. But that was a long time ago. Now Bellin, 52, is repairing ripped earlobes, although he says 'rhinoplasty and breast implantation is what I do best.'" [34][35] The usual searches reveal multiple sources that say as much. --Arxiloxos (talk) 23:10, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete as I also found only a few pieces of coverage, nothing beyond convincing at all. SwisterTwister talk 06:03, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
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The subject claims to notability are that he was a schoolboy rugby player, who played for a 'A' Division club in Sri Lanka in 1976, who then emigrated to Australia where he was a prison guard. Upon retirement he self-published a coffee table book on wildlife in Sri Lanka. Fails to satisfy WP:ANYBIO, WP:AUTHOR or WP:NRU. Dan arndt (talk) 01:43, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete neither his role in rugby or his publishing books makes him notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:01, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete as there's nothing convincing having examined the article; the nearest he would've come was an author but that article also overall is saying it's not an outstanding career either. SwisterTwister talk 04:02, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete I don't see any accomplishments that meet any notability criteria or significant independent coverage that meets GNG.Mdtemp (talk) 18:12, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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Nothing at all actually convincing of any applicable notability and my searches have found nothing better at all which is not surprising considering his IMDb. SwisterTwister talk 07:12, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete - no reliable sources. Tom29739 [talk] 17:40, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete. Reads like a resumé with nothing that jumps out to pass notability. The external linking to his work also doesn't help. — Wyliepedia 19:10, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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The only reference is to her personal website. All her books were vanity publications: http://rachelaaron.net/booksellers.php ("self-published") Lrieber (talk) 02:07, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete as there's nothing for any applicable notability, the current sources are not solidly convincing and there's nothing else to suggest her career as an author has suggested anything otherwise convincing. SwisterTwister talk 08:08, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Keep I don't think WP:BEFORE was done. You also need to look under her pseudonym. I have added reviews and information from The Washington Post, Publishers Weekly, Library Journal and Kirkus to the article. With multiple reviews of her work in RS, she passes WP:CREATIVE #4 for significant critical attention. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:45, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
- Comment I also should point out that her Eli Monpress and Paradox series were published by Orbit books, part of Hachette, not a "vanity press." Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:58, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
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The result was Delete.. Michig (talk) 07:17, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
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Not a notable person Amisom (talk) 15:25, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete Total lack of sources to demonstrate anything that is claimed is accurate let alone noted.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:31, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
- Delete and I wish I had caught his one before the relist, nothing at all for any basic minimal notability, certainly nothing new to suggest better information regarding any notability of course. Nothing else to suggest there's anything else beyond the apparent event. SwisterTwister talk 04:16, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
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- delete he is notable for being a zookeeper at a zoo where a freak accident occurred. I do get hits on a news archive search, but every one of tehm, different years , different reports, consisted of essentially the same as this form the Globe & Mail: "his keeper, Richard Johnstone- Scott, said by telephone." E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:51, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
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I would've PRODed too as my searches have simply found nothing better at all so unless archived Japanese sources can be found, I'm not finding anything convincing for the applicable notability. SwisterTwister talk 06:51, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
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I would've PRODed too as my searches have basically found nothing convincing at all aside from a few links for events such as book events and such, nothing particularly convincing. SwisterTwister talk 06:49, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete fast fast , the references say we should delete no evidence of notability Samat lib (talk) 19:06, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
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- Is there a reason? Rlendog (talk) 23:25, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
- i try to fix this article but i cant find a reliable source Samat lib (talk) 16:28, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
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I would've PRODed too as the article basically contains nothing actually convincing for the applicable notability, the best claim is only sourced by his own LinkedIn and the best my own searches found was only this. SwisterTwister talk 22:51, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
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- Keep Just needs citations. All I did was google the title of the book: "The Unconquered: In Search of the Amazon's Last Uncontacted Tribes" + Wallace (cool topic) and bingo, here are the news google hits: [36] Note that it got reviews in The New York Review of Books and the New York Times. The book can certainly support a page, ergo Wallace can. Suggest that [[User:SwisterTwister withdraw this one. Just leave it tagged for sourcing.E.M.Gregory (talk) 16:47, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
- Keep per E.M.Gregory. InsertCleverPhraseHere 23:26, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
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My searches have simply found nothing actually better and there's nothing here at all for applicable notability. At best, when deleted, this could be redirected to Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri#Legacy. Notifying tagger Wgolf. SwisterTwister talk 07:47, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
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- Merge to the proposed target. Absolutely no reason to delete content prior to merge or redirection. Jclemens (talk) 00:53, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
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