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- 1 Wikipedia Primary School Project
- 2 Wikipedia Primary School Edit-a-Thon
- 3 Primary School Project
- 4 Category:Order of Good Hope has been nominated for discussion
- 5 Media upload of historical photographs of South Africa
- 6 February 2017 at Women in Red
- 7 Articles being manipulated
- 8 Feminism in South Africa
- 9 Commons:Photo challenge February 2017 is Multilingualism
- 10 LGBT rights in South Africa has serious problems
- 11 Notice about adminship to participants at this project
- 12 CHANGES TO NASPERS COMPANY PAGE -
- 13 Companies and Intellectual Property Commission
- 14 Netherlands and the World Exchange Platform is online
- 15 Copyright Act amendment
- 16 Early history of South Africa
- 17 Sport in South Africa
- 18 Upcoming "420 collaboration"
Wikipedia Primary School Project
Hello ! I just joined the Primary School Project and will be the community liaison for it :) If you have any questions, please contact me.
I wanted to take that opportunity to outline that, as part of the project, we received and expert review for 4 articles. It would be lovely if you could have a look at them, and even better put a bit of energy in the improvement of these articles (they DO need the attention). The articles are
The reviews are posted in the talk page.
Thanks
Wikipedia Primary School Edit-a-Thon
Want to make a difference to the foundation phase of Education in South Africa?
Then join us for the first Wikipedia Primary School edit-a-thon to help add and improve articles on Wikipedia that are important to primary school children in South Africa.
Wikipedia is meant to be an education tool but experiences have shown us that once accessible, Wikipedia does not provide information that responds directly to curriculum-based questions. Wikipedia Primary relies on Wikipedia as an existing and growing resource, it solves the need for an encyclopedia capable of responding to curriculum-based questions, and it fosters Wikipedia content, quality and outreach.
- Dates : 19 and 26 February 2016
- Where : American Corner, Central Library, Old Drill Hall, cnr Parade and Darling Streets
- Time : 15:00 - 18:00
- Cost : Absolutely free
Refreshments and light snacks will be provided.
To read more about this project, please visit the Wikipedia Primary School Programme
Please RSVP for these events via Eventbrite
Primary School Project
Hello
Just a quick note to mention that the following articles have been reviewed as part of Wikipedia Primary School Research Project. Feedback welcome and articles improvement as well of course :)
- Children's Act, 2005 Access to review notes here,
- Agriculture in South Africa Access to review notes here,
Category:Order of Good Hope has been nominated for discussion
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Category:Order of Good Hope, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you.RevelationDirect (talk) 04:16, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Media upload of historical photographs of South Africa
Dear editors,
I would like to draw your attention to a media upload that may be of relevance to this page:
The Temminck Groll Collection consists of 2,641 historical photographs taken by the Dutch architect and architectural historian Coen Temminck Groll (1925-2015). The photos were taken in regions with which the Dutch have had historical relations, including countries in Africa, South America and Southeast Asia (see the category description for a full listing). The photos were taken during Temminck Groll's travels and study of 'shared cultural heritage' (heritage of the Netherlands located outside the country’s borders) and mainly date to the 1960s and 1970s. The photographs were digitised by the Cultural Heritage Agency of the Netherlands and made available to Wikimedia Commons in the context of the project The Netherlands and the world. If you have any questions about this upload, or have other media requests regarding Dutch shared cultural heritage, don't hesitate to leave a message at the project page!
Kind regards, --AWossink (talk) 15:03, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
February 2017 at Women in Red
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Articles being manipulated
I don't know if anyone has read this M&G article - http://mg.co.za/article/2017-01-27-00-hidden-hand-drives-social-media-smears - which mentions editing of WP articles by sockpuppets. Perhaps project members can watch these articles to prevent any disruptive editing in the future? Gbawden (talk) 13:39, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- A few of us have read it and it is an issue of concern. The best thing to do, I feel, is to keep a closer eye on the articles mentioned in the article and similar articles. I recall checking out the articles mentioned in the M&G article shortly after reading it. Most probably the most significant article like this is the one for the Gupta family which has also had an article in the M&G written about it and POV editing. I think we might all want to check them again and on an ongoing basis. All of the articles mentioned could certainly do with the positive editor attention either way.--Discott (talk) 07:56, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Feminism in South Africa
Hey folks, wondering if a member of this wikiproject can review Feminism in South Africa. I had started the article and believe I have gotten it up to a good standard. Let me know what you think. I.am.a.qwerty (talk) 12:00, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- Looks like a good start. You might want to mention Black Sash in its historical context. --Slashme (talk) 13:05, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
Commons:Photo challenge February 2017 is Multilingualism
FYI, take a look in commons:Commons:Photo challenge/2017 - February - Multilingualism if you have any file you'd like to upload, maybe in some of your archive at home. So far nothing from South Africa.--Alexmar983 (talk) 04:18, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
LGBT rights in South Africa has serious problems
Several sections and paragraphs are completely unsourced, some may even contain BLP violations. Some parts also have an "activist" POV tone. The subject is outside of my "comfort zone" for editing, so I'm not the right person to fix it. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:09, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
- The subject is also one I am not likely to edit in the near future but I might take a crack at it some day. Although I don't know if I would be any better at improving it than any other member of the general public. We could ask for help from the LGBT project folks? That might resolve the "activist" POV tone and it is a subject that is clearly in their area of interest and "comfort zone".--Discott (talk) 07:50, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not quite sure what comfort zones have to do with it. Unless we're talking highly esoteric topics, a reliable source is a reliable source and NPOV is NPOV, as far as I know. Whatever. I support the edit you made recently. Are there other problems? I don't see any maintenance tags or any discussion on the talk page. I can't commit the time required to carefully go over the whole article right now, but if you could identify specific problem areas, I'd be happy to take a look. RivertorchFIREWATER 05:39, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks Rivertorch, the "comfort zone" comment is about my not having even a rudimentary frame of reference to judge the reliability or relevance of subject-specific sources. I have no way to tell whether a particular source about LGBT issues is solid mainstream or loony-fringe. The "standard" everyday newspapers and similar media are easy to recognise for what they are, but LGBT literature is as alien to me as nuclear physics journals. I've made a note to take some time over the weekend to go through the page to individually tag concerns. Roger (Dodger67) (talk)
- Sounds good. I'll check back in a few days, then. (Ping me if I forget.) RivertorchFIREWATER 14:26, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks Rivertorch, the "comfort zone" comment is about my not having even a rudimentary frame of reference to judge the reliability or relevance of subject-specific sources. I have no way to tell whether a particular source about LGBT issues is solid mainstream or loony-fringe. The "standard" everyday newspapers and similar media are easy to recognise for what they are, but LGBT literature is as alien to me as nuclear physics journals. I've made a note to take some time over the weekend to go through the page to individually tag concerns. Roger (Dodger67) (talk)
Notice about adminship to participants at this project
Many participants here create a lot of content, may have to evaluate whether or not a subject is notable, decide if content complies with BLP policy, and much more. Well, these are just some of the skills considered at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship.
So, please consider taking a look at and watchlisting this page:
You could be very helpful in evaluating potential candidates, and even finding out if you would be a suitable RfA candidate.
Many thanks and best wishes,
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:40, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
CHANGES TO NASPERS COMPANY PAGE -
I have moved this discussion to Talk:Naspers. --Slashme (talk) 08:14, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Companies and Intellectual Property Commission
Draft about the Companies and Intellectual Property Commission Johnbplett (talk) 13:43, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Johnbplett, I have replaced the copy of your draft with a link to it, please do not copy entire pages, a simple link is perfectly adequate.
- Do you need help with the draft? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 14:01, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
Netherlands and the World Exchange Platform is online
Wikimedia Nederland launches the Netherlands and the World Exchange Platform. The platform aims to stimulate global re-use of Dutch collections on non-European cultural heritage. In particular, it aims to stimulate collections on countries with which the Netherlands have had historical ties. These countries include Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Brazil, Ghana, Suriname, South Africa, and others.
The platform also aims to foster contacts between Dutch cultural heritage institutions and Wikimedia contributors across the globe. However, participation is not limited to Wikimedia contributors. Anyone can participate, making it relevant for education and research as well.
Key properties:
- Dutch heritage institutions can post offers on (parts of) their collections that are relevant to non-European countries
- Wikimedia contributors gain insight in the contents of Dutch collections and can make requests for digitalisation.
- Knowledge exchange and cooperation are key concepts.
The platform is easy to use. After registration, users can post offer/requests notices, depending on whether they are looking for material, or want to offer material for re-use. Statistics on re-use are also available.
The Netherlands and the World Exchange Platform is part of the program The Netherlands and the World. This program is supported by Wikimedia Nederland and aims to make available knowledge and content on non-European countries.
Regards, --AWossink (talk) 14:59, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
Copyright Act amendment
Background
Hello everyone. As many of you know South Africa does not have freedom of panorama. This means that only photographs of old buildings and public monuments can be uploaded to Commons or used on Wikipedia without a Fair-use argument. The problem is that the current act (written in the 1978) just does not mention the sharing of images over the internet in any explicit way and so needs updating. This means that many places, mostly recently built (younger than 50 years old + life of the author/architect), in South Africa can not have a photograph to illustrate them. Or at least should not. This also means that most Facebook and other social media users are breaking the law when they share photographs of public artwork that is less than 50 years old + life of the author. Countries in other parts of the world get around this by including Freedom of Panorama into their Copyright Acts.
Currently the Copyright Act of South Africa is being redrafted by the Department of Trade and Industry (DoTI). We have engaged with the DoTI in on an effort to include Freedom of Panorama in the new version of the Copyright Act. However we are concerned that the draft version they will release in the near future (date still uncertain) might not include any mention of Freedom of Panorama or effort to establish any similar rights to freely share photographs of public artworks. This is a perfect opportunity for us to enhance the act by getting Freedom of Panorama included in the new version when it comes out.
Solution
We would like to line up a public banner for display on all Wikimedia projects such as Wikipedia in South Africa. The banner add would only go out if the draft version of the act to be released by the DoTI does not include any mention of Freedom of Panorama. Draft versions are released by the Department for public consolation. The banner add will inform people using Wikipedia in South Africa that a) this act is open to public consultation and b) encourage them to comment on the act so as to include Freedom of Panorama whilst informing them of why this is important.
In short the proposal calls for:
- Creation of banner add for use in South Africa on Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects in the event that the draft Copyright Act does not include Freedom of Panorama.
- The banner add, if used, will inform readers of that they can comment on this act and point them to a page on Wikimedia Commons where they can learn more.
- The 'learn more' page will inform readers of why Freedom of Panorama in South Africa is important and how to get involved.
Wikimedia South Africa voted on this at our December 2016 board meeting where we agreed, as a chapter, to proceed with this. We would like to now get broader community support. As such I would like to discuss this issue here so we can get a banner ad lined up for when the public consultation period begins (that date is still unclear).--Discott (talk) 15:41, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
More information
- Draft landing page for the proposed banner add.
- More information on Freedom of Panorama around the world and on Wikipedia:
- European Union Freedom of Panorama advocacy page:
- The suggestions we made to the DoTI in 2014 in the initial drafting stage
- List of Freedom of Panorama cases in South Africa.
Vote
Snow consensus to support putting up a banner advertisement on Wikipedia for use in South Africa only on Wikipedia; calling for Freedom of Panorama to be included in the Copyright Act of South Africa, in the event that the draft Copyright Act does not include it.Winged Blades Godric 12:16, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Leave your vote or comment here on whether or not you support putting up a banner add on Wikipedia calling for Freedom of Panorama to be included in the Copyright Act of South Africa.
- Support: As I proposed this vote so I naturally support it. Discott (talk) 15:55, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support: This must happen Dumbassman (talk) 16:16, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support: Absolutely, current law is too restrictive and limits our ability to post useful content unnecessarily. HelenOnline 16:46, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support, if it doesn't happen it'll open an unbelievably messy can of worms on Commons, as well as introducing the possibility that thousands of photos of South African museums, monuments, and buildings will be deleted en masse, to the detriment of this WikiProject. --Katangais (talk) 17:02, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support: as per the previous comments. --Slashme (talk) 18:44, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support: very important initiative. Raymond Ellis (talk) 13:00, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support:Wayne Jayes (talk) 12:17, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support: because this really matters. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:19, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support: I concur with all the other comments Gbawden (talk) 18:24, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support: As a Wikipedian and a legal professional my support for this is two-fold. Liam E. Bekker (talk) 19:33, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support: Ossewa (talk) 11:33, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support: Sure. I'm not terribly optimistic, but this step is certainly worth taking. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 07:26, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support: 154.119.59.105 (talk) 14:54, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support: I've contributed many images and had quite a few of them excluded based on the lack of FOP in SA law. Zaian (talk) 11:51, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support: • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 06:06, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support: Nic Roets (talk) 13:13, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support: Thuvack | talk 14:56, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Early history of South Africa
Hello. I stumbled upon Southern Africa BC and ADs in Southern Africa. These don't have much content and could be merged into another article such as Early history of South Africa, but I don't have the subject knowledge to know whether this is valid or which text to keep. The titles suggest that the articles cover southern Africa rather than specifically RSA, but they're linked from List of years in South Africa and are members of Category:History of South Africa by period. Please can a subject expert help? Thanks, Certes (talk) 17:57, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
Sport in South Africa
Hi I would like to know if there are people who are working on South African sport pages? Some of the pages seems very behind, if they exist at all. Pages like some of the lower leagues in football, as well as many of the smaller sports, and also the teams that participate in the sporting codes. Freddie2016 (talk) 14:53, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- Freddie2016 I sometimes work on articles related to disability sport - I took South Africa at the 2012 Summer Paralympics to GA. I also very occasionally work on cricket articles. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:36, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you for the feedback Freddie2016 (talk) 09:20, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Is there a way and place to build a community of "sportswriters" or contributors to sportpages, whose main/speciality focus is on sport in South Africa? Freddie2016 (talk) 09:20, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Upcoming "420 collaboration"
You are invited to participate in the upcoming which is being held from Saturday, April 15 to Sunday, April 30, and especially on April 20, 2017!The purpose of the collaboration, which is being organized by WikiProject Cannabis, is to create and improve cannabis-related content at Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects in a variety of fields, including: culture, health, hemp, history, medicine, politics, and religion. WikiProject South Africa participants may be particularly interested in the following: Cannabis in South Africa. For more information about this campaign, and to learn how you can help improve Wikipedia, please visit the "420 collaboration" page. |
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---Another Believer (Talk) 14:29, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
- Note that Cannabis in South Africa has had a massive spike in page views over the last month, so now is a great time to expand and update it! Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 09:18, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
- ^ Evans, Jenni. "How the Western Cape High Court dagga judgment applies to you". 24.com. News24. Retrieved 31 March 2017.
- ^ Williams, Denise. "Cannabis can now be grown, smoked at home, court rules". The Citizen. The Citizen. Retrieved 15 April 2017.