Contents
- 1 March 22
- 1.1 Category:Cory Lee albums
- 1.2 Category:Cory Lee songs
- 1.3 Category:Alexz Johnson albums
- 1.4 Category:Alexz Johnson songs
- 1.5 Category:Michigan Department of Corrections
- 1.6 Category:ATP World Tour Masters 1000
- 1.7 Category:Former Victoria's Secret Angels
- 1.8 Category:Mint 400 Records album covers
- 1.9 Category:Coffea drinks
- 1.10 Category:Religion in Brazil by city
- 1.11 Category:Tekugu remakes of Tamil films
- 1.12 Category:Springs (mechanical)
- 1.13 Category:Jewish fascists
- 1.14 Category:Jewish anti-communists
- 1.15 Category:Hungarian Heritage Award Winners
- 1.16 Category:Motorsports Hall of Fame of America inductees
March 22
Category:Cory Lee albums
- Propose deleting Category:Cory Lee albums ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Cory Lee albums ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Redundant – empty category. Richard3120 (talk) 23:39, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Just FYI-If a category is empty, it can be tagged CSD C1 and be deleted after 7 days. You don't need to initiate a discussion for it at CfD. Now that the category is involved in a CfD, it cannot be tagged for speedy deletion. If you see an empty category in the future, please just tag it for speedy deletion rather than opening a Cfd discussion. Liz Read! Talk! 01:20, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Liz: my apologies, you are absolutely correct... I was creating other CfDs in a rush before I had to go out, and the possibility of a speedy deletion completely slipped my mind. Richard3120 (talk) 01:50, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- However, I don't recommend that the person who emptied the category be the one who also tags it as empty. I'm not saying that the articles shouldn't have been redirected. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:57, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- No problem, Richard3120. This sure isn't the first incidence I've come across, I just thought I'd add a comment to the CfD discussion. Liz Read! Talk! 02:33, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Category:Cory Lee songs
- Propose deleting Category:Cory Lee songs ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Cory Lee songs ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Redundant – all songs by the artist have already been redirected to the artist's article as they are not notable. Richard3120 (talk) 23:37, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Category:Alexz Johnson albums
- Propose deleting Category:Alexz Johnson albums ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Alexz Johnson albums ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Redundant – only contains one album, which is a soundtrack album, all the artist's other albums are not notable and have been redirected to the artist's article. Richard3120 (talk) 23:34, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Category:Alexz Johnson songs
- Propose deleting Category:Alexz Johnson songs ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Alexz Johnson songs ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Redundant – contains just one song, which has already been redirected to the artist's article, as it is not notable. Richard3120 (talk) 23:30, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Category:Michigan Department of Corrections
- Propose deleting Category:Michigan Department of Corrections ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Michigan Department of Corrections ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: No idea why this was created: It's completely unnecessary as it is entirely redundant to Category:Prisons in Michigan. Anomalous+0 (talk) 23:26, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Support per WP:OVERLAPCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:00, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete -- Looks like a duplicate. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:08, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Category:ATP World Tour Masters 1000
- Propose renaming Category:ATP World Tour Masters 1000 to Category:ATP Tour Masters 1000
- Nominator's rationale: per main article ATP Tour Masters 1000. The latter was moved in January without discussion so this is not eligible for speedy renaming under WP:C2D, unless anyone can add a citation here for the official name. – Fayenatic London 22:50, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Category:Former Victoria's Secret Angels
- Propose merging Category:Former Victoria's Secret Angels to Category:Victoria's Secret Angels
- Nominator's rationale: Absolutely no need to distinguish between the two in two separate categories. There are no categories for former United States Senators from Illinois (in the case of politicians like Barack Obama) or former American female country singers (in the case of musicians like Taylor Swift). Hugely redundant. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 20:19, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Category:Mint 400 Records album covers
- Propose deleting Category:Mint 400 Records album covers ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Mint 400 Records album covers ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Absent-mindedly, I nominated Category:Album covers by label rather than this root category. The deletion result of the parent shows there’s no need for a “by label” categorization of album covers. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 14:38, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - The category contains album covers for label compilations (it did not at first). Without this, the image would be categorized with only "Album covers." - NorthPark1417 (talk) 15:17, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Query - since File:1967_album.jpg is the album cover for a Mint 400 Records album, what is the objection to categorising it as such? Oculi (talk) 18:46, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- It just seem like a road that we wouldn't want to go down for every record label to group such disparate and otherwise unrelated album covers. What interest/point would there be to categorize File:Jingle_Bell_Jazz.png and File:Acdcironman.jpg in Category:Columbia Records album covers? At least when looking in Category:Melissa Etheridge album covers, someone might actually be interested in viewing the other covers by that artist. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 05:04, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Category:Coffea drinks
- Propose renaming Category:Coffea drinks to Category:Coffee drinks
- Nominator's rationale: Hello coffea ? suspect the spelling is a problem JarrahTree 13:25, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Oppose. @JarrahTree, it's not a mis-spelling. See Coffea. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:50, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- IN that case withdraw - there appeared to be no specific link to that - thanks for pointing that out JarrahTree 14:57, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- How about merging per WP:SMALLCAT? It is not clear from the article if more coffea drinks exist beside coffee. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:14, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- you are most welcome - it is a long tine since I have been visited by the cat police (10 years ago + ?) when if a cat was created with no likelihoood of getting to an optimal number of articles into the cat, there was trouble - these days cats get created with smaller numbers and the issue seems to be no longer an issue.... JarrahTree 15:18, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'd support a SMALLCAT-based merge. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:12, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Category:Religion in Brazil by city
- Propose deleting Category:Religion in Brazil by city ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Religion in Brazil by state ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Religion in Brazil by city ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: delete as redundant category layers. Coverage of religion in Brazil at local and state level is very limited (apart from places of worship which already has its own category tree). Marcocapelle (talk) 07:36, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
Category:Tekugu remakes of Tamil films
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: speedy delete per WP:G6 (uncontroversial housekeeping). Simple mis-spelling, and the category is already empty. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:22, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Tekugu remakes of Tamil films ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Tekugu remakes of Tamil films ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Simple spelling mistake, and redundant to Category:Telugu remakes of Tamil films. Kailash29792 (talk) 03:25, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Springs (mechanical)
- Propose eEnaming Category:Springs (mechanical) to A. Category:Springs (device) or B. Category:Springs (devices)
- Nominator's rationale: Per C2D, consistency with main article's name
- I nominated this category for a speedy rename in WP:CFDS to match the main article, Spring (device). The underlying nomination wasn't controversial but it started a discussion with @Black Falcon and Armbrust: about whether the paranthetical disambiguation should be a singular "(device)" or a plural "(devices)". - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:31, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
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Category:Jewish fascists
- Propose deleting Category:Jewish fascists ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Jewish fascists ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Appears to be a case of overcategorization at the intersection of ethnicity (or religion) and political ideology. - MrX 🖋 01:29, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose There are categories of fascists across many other nationalities. This particular categorization also takes into account the unique instances of crossover between Zionism and fascism, such as the group Lehi, Abba Ahimeir and his Revisionist Maximalism movement, and Uri Zvi Greenberg (whose fascist politics are otherwise difficult to learn about in his own article). Docktuh (talk • contribs) 02:24, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Support, apart from a few supporters of Mussolini (who were primarily Italian fascists rather than Jewish fascists) it is not clear whether people in this category really were fascists. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:10, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Abba Ahimeir openly declared himself a fascist. The Lehi under Stern were fascists. Revisionist Maximalism was a fascist ideology. I don't see how that's "unclear". Docktuh (talk) 04:55, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- The Lehi is currently stated to be a paramilitary Zionist group; if they were a fascist group it requires rewriting the article. You are right about Revisionist Maximalism (it wasn't quite clear from the biographies) but then I would suggest creating Category:Revisionist maximalists parented to the Zionism and to the Fascism tree. They have nothing common with e.g. Dan Burros or Angelo Oliviero Olivetti. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:43, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- Abba Ahimeir openly declared himself a fascist. The Lehi under Stern were fascists. Revisionist Maximalism was a fascist ideology. I don't see how that's "unclear". Docktuh (talk) 04:55, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose per Docktuh's arguments. Dimadick (talk) 15:31, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- Keep -- There is a strong link between political and religious beliefs: one tends to drive the other. In this case, the existence of the category might be unexpected in view of what the Nazis did to the Jews. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:12, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Category:Jewish anti-communists
- Propose deleting Category:Jewish anti-communists ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Jewish anti-communists ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Appears to be a case of overcategorization at the intersection of ethnicity (or religion) and political ideology. - MrX 🖋 01:28, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose There are categories of anti-communists across almost all other nationalities. This doesn't appear to be overcategorization. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Docktuh (talk • contribs) 02:20, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Support, the large amount of the articles in this category concerns American anti-communists, with unclear ties between anti-communism and Jewish ethnicity. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:14, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose per Docktuh's arguments. Dimadick (talk) 15:31, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose for much the same reasons as with fascists above. Religious beliefs are liable to lead to political ones. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:13, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Category:Hungarian Heritage Award Winners
- Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Hungarian Heritage Award Winners
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)
- The Hungarian Heritage Award article is a pretty vague, there's only one article in the category, and that article makes no mention of the award. For what it's worth, I "listified" that one person in the main article. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:23, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- DElete probably a NN award. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:14, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Category:Motorsports Hall of Fame of America inductees
- Propose Deleting/Listifying Category:Motorsports Hall of Fame of America inductees
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)
- The Motorsports Hall of Fame of America is a museum currently located next to the Daytona Speedway. The biography articles in this category do tend to mention the award but in passing with a list of other awards so it doesn't seem defining. The recipients are already listified here in the main article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:21, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NONDEFINING. - MrX 🖋 21:56, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
- Comment -- I thought we allowed such categories where there is a real museum. I recall being jumped upon some years ago for suggesting the reverse. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:16, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Peterkingiron: I certainly never made that case. I think that museums with a physical presence are definitely more WP:Notable as far as the main article goes if there were to be an AfD nomination. Whether or not the award is WP:Defining for a category in CfD is a separate question better determined by seeing how the individual biography articles handle the award in my opinion. In this case, having a major racetrack next door creates a enough customers to support a museum but that's also the case with this overlapping category at a similar musem by the Talladega raceway but the race driver articles only mention both awards in passing. We also have a lot of Halls of Fames that are barely physical museums: the American Theater Hall of Fame has plaques on the walls in the upstairs portico/hallway area of the Gershwin Theatre. As these award categories have proliferated, I also suspect the consensus here in CFD may be moving toward a more strict application of WP:OCAWARD. (Sorry for giving *long* reply to a short question!) RevelationDirect (talk) 00:43, 25 March 2019 (UTC)