Protection level anomalies
- You reduced the protection level of Module:Find sources to ECP in November 2021 per Special:PermaLink/1055869020#User:Wikmoz, however the sole edit to the page since was by a Template Editor. This suggests to me that the page should be restored to template protection.
- In 2018, you template-protected Template:Storm colour. That template was converted to use Module:Storm categories in December 2021. I requested the module be protected to match the template, which was declined by Bbb23, implying that they did not think that template-protection was warranted. In that case, the protection level of Template:Storm colour should be reduced to ECP.
* Pppery * it has begun... 01:30, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Genuinely out of curiosity, because I can't remember when this was discussed or where to find it, but is there a huge issue if there is a mismatch between the protection of a very-stable template that is calling a dynamic module? Primefac (talk) 13:09, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- A template calling a module with a lower protection level renders the protection level on the template effectively security theater and therefore pointless. The original context for these is User talk:Primefac/Archive 17#More bad protections * Pppery * it has begun... 18:04, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Okay, so no technical reason. I fixed your link and #2, but am still (genuinely) mulling over #1, because I don't want to raise the protection level only to have them return from whatever area they've hidden themselves in and suddenly realised they need to edit this template again (i.e. I don't want to protect-war with myself). I will give it a good think, though. Primefac (talk) 18:30, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Dependencies should always have a higher or equivalent protection, as they will always have more or equal transclusions. Izno (talk) 22:09, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Good point. Primefac (talk) 06:56, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- So, are you going to do something about #1? * Pppery * it has begun... 19:07, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Stable but on 1.5mil pages... up it goes. Primefac (talk) 13:33, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- The exact same calculus applies to Module:Find sources/templates/Find general sources and Module:Find sources/templates/Find sources mainspace, both of which should likewise be raised to template protection. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:32, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- Stable but on 1.5mil pages... up it goes. Primefac (talk) 13:33, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- So, are you going to do something about #1? * Pppery * it has begun... 19:07, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Good point. Primefac (talk) 06:56, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- Dependencies should always have a higher or equivalent protection, as they will always have more or equal transclusions. Izno (talk) 22:09, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Okay, so no technical reason. I fixed your link and #2, but am still (genuinely) mulling over #1, because I don't want to raise the protection level only to have them return from whatever area they've hidden themselves in and suddenly realised they need to edit this template again (i.e. I don't want to protect-war with myself). I will give it a good think, though. Primefac (talk) 18:30, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- A template calling a module with a lower protection level renders the protection level on the template effectively security theater and therefore pointless. The original context for these is User talk:Primefac/Archive 17#More bad protections * Pppery * it has begun... 18:04, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Question about holding cell entry removal
Hey, why did you remove the sclass- templates from the holding cell? Gonnym (talk) 15:15, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Because the close result was to merge, and the nominated templates had been redirected to the target templates. Generally that means that the merge has been completed. Primefac (talk) 18:25, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- The close was very clear in how it should be done, as it said
Along the lines of Trappist and Gonnym
, which reading TTP and my comments was to replace x- templates with the normal one and delete these redirects as they were always meant to be temporarily. This wasn't a normal "merge and redirect" result. Gonnym (talk) 09:13, 22 February 2022 (UTC)- I have no issue orphaning the redirects but it wasn't super-clear that was the requirement. Also, coming right out and stating "this shouldn't have been removed because they're supposed to be orphaned" is a lot less likely to annoy me than playing coy. Primefac (talk) 09:24, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Also, coming right out and stating "this shouldn't have been removed because they're supposed to be orphaned" is a lot less likely to annoy me than playing coy
... but that was exactly was I wrote here, which you removed with the comment-2
. Seeing as how you saw my comment and removed it anyways, I came to ask why. Gonnym (talk) 09:41, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- I have no issue orphaning the redirects but it wasn't super-clear that was the requirement. Also, coming right out and stating "this shouldn't have been removed because they're supposed to be orphaned" is a lot less likely to annoy me than playing coy. Primefac (talk) 09:24, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- The close was very clear in how it should be done, as it said
Question about SAG template TfD
Hi, I saw the changes made to the SAG award templates and saw you did some merging with the edit reason "TfD", but didn't link a TfD and I can't see one at the talk page - do you know where it is, I would just like to see the reasons for one of the changes (very bizarrely removing actors' names - it is an award given by actors to actors, they're pretty important). Kingsif (talk) 09:07, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- There were two discussions regarding a merge of the subtemplates to the main; since it wasn't directly listed it did not receive an {{old TFD}} notice. Primefac (talk) 09:10, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Primebot come-hither signal
I occasionally find irregular WikiEd assignment templates that are not converted, on a page where Primebot has been by to convert other templates. Recent example: at Talk:Interpersonal communication, where I added an {{unsig}} template to a stray template (it's also above the ToC). Would it be useful to add a flag of some sort to it, either just a ping to Primebot, if that's enough, or a flag of some sort to "come look at this one and convert it" (perhaps something like, {{ping|Primebot<!--user=Foo&ts=TIME-->}}). I don't want to belabor your Talk page with this each time it comes up. Or is it just not worth bothering with? Mathglot (talk) 19:48, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
- Genuinely out of curiosity, but have you not seen Wikipedia:Education_noticeboard#Results? The template is no longer subst-only, and Sage is working on converting the WikiEd tools to properly add the template for new uses. Other than implementing anything on a technical side, I no longer have anything to do with the dashboard template. Primefac (talk) 20:00, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
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For all the work you do behind the scenes making the English language Wikipedia a decent place for the ordinary hobbyist editor FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 18:02, 25 February 2022 (UTC) |
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Possibly copyright violation(s)
Hi. Can you look at the history of this page? The copyright vio detector has detected a lot of similar results as well. Thank you. --Victor Trevor (talk) 19:42, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- The problem with a page like that is that it has been around since 2009, so even if there is a bit of copying to Wikipedia, there is almost guaranteed to be a ton of copying from Wikipedia, which will mess with the copyvio check. In other words, I can't on a quick look make any sort of determination about its status, so you'll have to either file a copyright investigation or determine which parts of the page were copied (and from where). Primefac (talk) 19:50, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
Live from Here
The show is canceled. I changed the description from 'Live from Here is', to was. You changed it back. How come? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cuchulain9 (talk • contribs) 04:12, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
Live from Here
Disregard my prior. I see that seems to be a convention, so ok. Cuchulain9 (talk) 04:14, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
Comparison of hiding tools
The table is a "Comparison of hiding tools" as self described, therefore all hiding tools shouuld be on it. Plus, the initial list is also a non-OS thing. Naleksuh (talk) 21:45, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- You're welcome to discuss the matter on WT:OS, but I do not see deletion as a "hiding tool" (as we do not actually have a tool to do that). Primefac (talk) 21:49, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Wilfrid Oswald Jose copyvio
The draft was a word-for-word copy of an essay by the submitter; we talked about it some more on my talk page. When I tried to decline it again with that link in the URL field it didn't show it on the decline template for some reason, so I've left it as a comment. I probably just didn't look carefully to confirm the decline went through correctly the first time. Rusalkii (talk) 21:59, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Apologies, if you attempted to add the URL and it didn't put it in the template, that's an issue with AFCH. Thank you for the followup and sorry for the hassle. Primefac (talk) 22:02, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
You had missed out Index of Singapore-related articles when doing mass rollback on the pages. I have removed it as part of my weekly update, but am not sure if you had missed out on other pages. Cheers! – robertsky (talk) 23:52, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
- I probably did, I was pretty sure I missed some. Got distracted and forgot to go back and check. Primefac (talk) 07:33, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
Hide diff
Hi, could you also delete the edit summary of this bot edit? Thanks, Nehme1499 07:41, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2022).
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- A RfC is open to change the wording of revision deletion criterion 1 to remove the sentence relating to non-infringing contributions.
- A RfC is open to discuss prohibiting draftification of articles over 90 days old.
- The deployment of the reply tool as an opt-out feature, as announced in last month's newsletter, has been delayed to 7 March. Feedback and comments are being welcomed at Wikipedia talk:Talk pages project. (T296645)
- Special:Nuke will now allow the selection of standard deletion reasons to be used when mass-deleting pages. This was a Community Wishlist Survey request from 2022. (T25020)
- The ability to undelete the talk page when undeleting a page using Special:Undelete or the API will be added soon. This change was requested in the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey. (T295389)
- Several unused discretionary sanctions and article probation remedies have been rescinded. This follows the community feedback from the 2021 Discretionary Sanctions review.
- The 2022 appointees for the Ombuds commission are Érico, Faendalimas, Galahad, Infinite0694, Mykola7, Olugold, Udehb and Zabe as regular members and Ameisenigel and JJMC89 as advisory members.
- Following the 2022 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: AntiCompositeNumber, BRPever, Hasley, TheresNoTime, and Vermont.
- The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey results have been published alongside the ranking of prioritized proposals.
Template:Stephanie Mills
Hey Primefac, an editor has been vandalizing Template:Stephanie Mills and Stephanie Mills discography. Apparently this editor has multiple accounts, three of which can be traced to the previous links. They are User:KixsNas, User:Naas08, and User:Vicspixydust, all being the same, i.e. WP:SOCK. Can you do something about this editor, so I can restore Template:Stephanie Mills to where it should be, which I temporarily moved to Template:Discographer? Thanks. Best, --Discographer (talk) 21:48, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- I have blocked KixsNas from being able to edit Stephanie Mills' page and her discography, but if you believe there is socking happening you should file a report at WP:SPI. I'll add the pages to my watchlist for a bit to keep an eye out for shenanigans.
- Also, unrelated to the above, but please don't make unexplained and invalid page moves in what I assume you intended as some form of anti-vandal fighting; pages get protection through WP:RFPP or asking an admin, not attempting to hide them in some other location. Primefac (talk) 21:55, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. Best, --Discographer (talk) 22:11, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
COVID medical charts
Please restore all the COVID medical chart information you deleted to my sandbox. Trackinfo (talk) 01:44, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- Just to check, these are the templates from this and that discussion? Primefac (talk) 07:40, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Need to delete revisions
Hi, I bungled a bit when submitting a draft from the sandbox. At Draft:Rin Nakai, revisions before the 15:05, 4 March 2022 edit contain sensitive information from old sandbox edits and I wish these to be removed as soon as possible. That is, Draft:Rin Nakai, edits from 15:04, 4 March 2022 to 16:02, 6 December 2020. -- TrickShotFinn (talk) 06:35, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- I have split all previous versions of the page back to User:TrickShotFinn/sandbox and deleted it per WP:U1. You are of course welcome to request undeletion should you need these revisions in the future. Primefac (talk) 07:27, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! :) -- TrickShotFinn (talk) 07:32, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
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Hey, it has been over a year now since my topic ban, where can I appeal? You can reply here. --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 20:49, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
You beat me to it!
I’m referring to your ECP removal. It seemed pretty obvious what he was doing. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 21:19, 6 March 2022 (UTC)
- and yet... Primefac (talk) 10:29, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- I was on my way to do it also. Bishonen | tålk 10:45, 7 March 2022 (UTC).
removal of EC template
Sir, what do you mean by Legitimate edits? Bharatiya Sanatani (talk) 00:40, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- Legitimate edits means useful contributions; it doesn't mean making 187 pointless edits to your userpage or almost 200 edits to a single article to add in wikilinks. If you need to make multiple changes to a page, use the Preview option to see the in-progress work so that you can do all you need in as few edits as possible. Primefac (talk) 10:32, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
Updating episodes before being broadcasted on television
Hey Primefac! I want you to have a look at a user's contributions who mostly updates episode numbers on different Indian television soap operas. The person is now disruptively making edits for the episodes which have not been aired on television yet. Just on the basis of OTT platforms where episode(s) premiere before being broadcasted on TV and that to for premium subscribers, the editor is making the particular edits and recently, the user made edits for before the respective date/future event. ManaliJain (talk) 10:19, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- If it's an ongoing issue, I would recommend bringing the matter before WP:ANI. Primefac (talk) 10:33, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks, dispute resolved at Talk:Anupamaa#Updates_based_on_OTT. ManaliJain (talk) 17:30, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
Unblocking for file uploading
Hello. So I read WP:REFB and practiced a bit of it on my sandbox and for the most part, I think I'm doing ok. And as for forcing high quality files, that's taken care of. So maybe you can contact an admin to unblock me. I'd really appreciate it. ChallengeCick (talk) 08:16, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- Done, though I will note that this is not a guarantee or a Get Out of Jail Free card for future instances of disruption. Primefac (talk) 08:27, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- First off, nice monopoly reference and second, what do you mean by that this is not a guarantee? ChallengeCick (talk) 08:36, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- I came here from the link in the unblock summary @ChallengeCick: Would you mind telling me what you mean by "And as for forcing high quality files, that's taken care of"? I'm not an admin so I can't re-partial block you, however I would like to know what you mean by this since you had previously uploaded high quality version of files that were already an acceptable quality for NFF (non-free files). ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:31, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- So you probably weren't aware, but one of the reasons why I was blocked for file uploading was because for non-copyrighted images, if they didn't look good, I would upload a higher quality so it would look much nicer in the article's infobox. Examples include Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (film) and Bowser's Fury. But thankfully, that phase is done now and I'm gonna to that kind of stuff again when it comes to uploading files. So there's your clarification. ChallengeCick (talk) 07:34, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
- @ChallengeCick: Oh I know why you were blocked from uploading files. I cleaned up your mess after you uploaded higher-quality versions on NFFs. But thank you for clarifying. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 13:59, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
- So you probably weren't aware, but one of the reasons why I was blocked for file uploading was because for non-copyrighted images, if they didn't look good, I would upload a higher quality so it would look much nicer in the article's infobox. Examples include Sonic the Hedgehog 2 (film) and Bowser's Fury. But thankfully, that phase is done now and I'm gonna to that kind of stuff again when it comes to uploading files. So there's your clarification. ChallengeCick (talk) 07:34, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Non Emergency Medical Transportation Accreditation Commission
Please see my decline of this where I have tried to add the offending url to the decline template. I must be being a bit thick, because I can't see how to follow your instructions FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 08:56, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, put in the wrong param, it should be
|details=
or|details2=
(in this case the latter). Thanks. Primefac (talk) 08:58, 8 March 2022 (UTC)- Thanks. I thought I was going insane
- To be fair, I knew that anyway, been insane for years! FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 09:19, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
Well, that was bizarre fun
What surprises me is that, except for you, and you started it, I can't really see anyone picked it up and ran with it except me. I suppose cv and revdel is an awkward area, and scares folk off, but I also see almost NO cv declines with deletion of the ordure and a cv-revdel request in the normal scheme of things. And I never knew cv-cleaned was a parameter. Nor, I think, do the revdel folks FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 14:53, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I certainly wasn't the one that created the system, but it makes sense, and I finally got tired of seeing the "169" in the category count for the revdels. I suppose if there's a system that isn't used, it should be thrown away, eh? BUT, I think there are likely quite a few cv-declined-but-not-deleted drafts that eventually get accepted, and we really shouldn't have their old cvs in the history.
- So thanks a ton for the help, I was definitely hitting a wall with those last 30. Assuming the script gets fixed some time of this century, it should make maintaining the category easier (even if I'm the only one doing it), since "1 or 2 a day" is pretty manageable. Primefac (talk) 14:57, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- I can see why you hit the wall. I did too, as you have seen. Like you I'm a persistent person.
- We also identified a bit of UPE in the middle and that editor has now made full multiple declarations. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 18:12, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- Nice. Primefac (talk) 18:13, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- Oh great. It happens here too. I should have known. of course. My view is that this makes the cure more important, but youi may be able to prevent this from happening in a user talk page.
- No good deed goes unpunished. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 22:42, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
- Honestly, now that the backlog is down in that cat, I might revert; new declines will be fresher in the reviewer's mind and they should be able to remember where it came from (and it will also be more likely to show up in a cv search anyway). I'll see about getting that script upgrade moving too...
- Also, since that message is subst, I'll likely have to go through and remove them all myself... only seven instances though, so that's good. Primefac (talk) 07:12, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
- Or ignore it? FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 15:31, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
- Nice. Primefac (talk) 18:13, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
The "What we should be doing with copyvios" action list
If you recall the list of stuff I posted on Slywriter's talk age, I have encapsulated it into User:Timtrent/cv in case it is of future use. Please feel free to edit anything in it that you disagree with or would like to improve and make whatever use you wish of it.
I have set it up to work for the time after the script is repaired. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 15:45, 9 March 2022 (UTC)