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First, phrases like "ridiculous obsession" in an edit summary could be considered a personal attack so let's take a step back from this for a second. The reason I've reverted it from KAA Gent back to Gent is because the club is commonly known as Gent. In prose and tables, it is reasonable to use the WP:COMMONNAME for football teams rather than the club's full official name. I've cited Liverpool as an example of another team for which this is the case but it is not the only one. Just looking at this season's Champions League you have Chelsea, Villarreal, Barcelona, Sevilla, Liverpool, Milan, Lille, Porto, Monaco, Genk and Riga which are all named after the place they come from and simply known as such. The context of the fact they are contained with a lit of football teams is simple enough for readers to understand that it's a football team and not a city. There is no reason for Gent to be an exception especially considering we've just refered to them as Gent in recent European competition articles. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 14:32, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
- Then the other articles need to be tweaked as well. There is no rule whatsoever that forbids to list anything other than the city they are named for. And WP:COMMONNAME only applies to article titles. Besides in the example of Gent it is referred to most commonly WITH a prefix in its national press. And if you look at the parralel article on the upcoming Champions League all but one of the clubs are listed with their club names and not just the city names. It doesn’t list things such as Paris, Munich, Dortmund, Madrid, Rekyavik etc. Your arguments just don’t hold water.Tvx1 14:43, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
- You can't compare team's whose names are not just the city with teams whose names are just the city. It's Paris
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Munich so obviously that is what the link will be piped to. It is the club's common name. For teams which are just named after the place they come from like Gent and Liverpool and Villarreal which are commonly known in English as such, it makes no sense to not be consistent and have only one with the prefix/suffix and none of the others. If you're actually going to fairly compare Gent with Bayern Munich in this context, we don't pipe the link to FC Bayern Munich, do we? It's not Real Madrid CF, is it? There is no point in being inconsistent especially considering previous European competition articles have Gent as Gent and not KAA Gent. Stevie fae Scotland (talk) 15:29, 23 April 2022 (UTC)- As I said before, the other articles should be tweaked as well. Many wrongs don't make a right. And your claim about the WP:COMMONNAME of this article is actually contradicted by the title of the article for the club in question being K.A.A. Gent. You're analogy with Real Madrid and Bayern Munich also doesn't hold since in those cases Real and Bayern already provides necessary precision and adding FC there only creates double disambiguation which is overkill. In case of KAA Gent, KAA is actually what gives the necessary precision. In that case, the name of the club is not just "the name of the city" but actually KAA Gent. Writing Gent is just too vague. The fact that you yourself actually managed to incorrectly lecture me that KRC Gent is team from Genk and thus should be written with a "K" in the end should raise a massive red flag to you that there is a serious possibility that many readers are left not knowing which team is referred to when writing just "Gent". These Belgian teams are no that well known as you insist. KAA Gent can be best compared to AEK Athens, which we always write as such and not just "Athens", since KAA has a similar meaning to AEK and is not even remotely as common as the standard FC.Tvx1 05:57, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- You can't compare team's whose names are not just the city with teams whose names are just the city. It's Paris