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April 2
12:13:29, 2 April 2022 review of draft by QuantumMechanicsLover
- QuantumMechanicsLover (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Ashneer Grover ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
QuantumMechanicsLover (talk) 12:13, 2 April 2022 (UTC) I need help to arrange this draft in a proper manner.
17:03:18, 2 April 2022 review of submission by Phigeus
Phigeus (talk) 17:03, 2 April 2022 (UTC) the response to my draft came back in just a few seconds, making it appear that the actual "responder" was a bot...the person about whom i was writing is astonishingly qualified for inclusion in wiki, highly regarded by people in her field as a scholar (Yale Ph.D. etc.) and with whom she has worked as a photographer (Jazz at Lincoln Center)
- Sources need to be inline following the content that they support, not in a list at the end. Theroadislong (talk) 21:14, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
18:14:11, 2 April 2022 review of submission by ThedivineBroom
- ThedivineBroom (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Victoria Broom ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Why was my article declined?
ThedivineBroom (talk) 18:14, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- ThedivineBroom I assume this is about the draft I have placed a link to here. The reason was given by the last reviewer. 331dot (talk) 18:18, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
Request on 20:40:31, 2 April 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Benjamin at TeComprendo
- Benjamin at TeComprendo (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Logos (video game) ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Why is this article not notable for you 😞
LOGOS has been covered by other secondary sources and had appeared in independent publications from companies with their own editorial team!
Benjamin at TeComprendo (talk) 20:40, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- If they have, can you post these sources here to show us that it's notable? SK2242 (talk) 06:05, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
April 3
01:39:22, 3 April 2022 review of submission by Jschnurm
Jschnurm (talk) 01:39, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
I don't know why my draft was declined.
- Because we have no tolerance for unsourced claims about living people, especially if it's obviously bullshit. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 02:18, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
03:19:01, 3 April 2022 review of submission by Khalid-hassan-aziz
- Khalid-hassan-aziz (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Khalid hassan aziz ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Khalid-hassan-aziz (talk) 03:19, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
i'm khalid hassan aziz.my date of birth 20 Jan 1999. I was born in iraq . [edit | edit source]
khalid hassan crede fermamente nei media liberi e nello sviluppo politico del Kurdistan. Un obiettivo a cui ha investito la maggior parte del suo capitale.Hi! My name is Khalid, I quit my job to write and make videos about life, love, and family.[edit | edit source] khalid hassan aziz crede fermamente nei media liberi e nello sviluppo politico del Kurdistan. Un obiettivo a cui ha investito la maggior parte del suo capitale.
- @Khalid-hassan-aziz: Wikipedia is not free web hosting, and we won't accept unsourced biographical content. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 05:09, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
08:21:24, 3 April 2022 review of submission by LeoCampion
- LeoCampion (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Hedgehog Cabin ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- User talk:Hedgehog Cabin ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Hello, I'm so sorry to take up your time. If anyone has a moment free could they please help me and point out what specifically has made my article be declined. Is it a sentence or phrase? Do I need to add more references? I'd be very grateful for the help, thank you, Leo. LeoCampion (talk) 08:21, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
LeoCampion (talk) 08:21, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- LeoCampion The draft just tells about this organization and what it does. Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about it, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable organization. Mostly you have cited name drops of the organization- this is insufficient. There must be significant, in depth coverage of the organization to summarize. It isn't more references that are needed, but better quality ones.
- If you are associated with this organization, please read about conflict of interest and paid editing for information on required formal disclosures. 331dot (talk) 09:32, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, that's very useful and kind of you to help. LeoCampion (talk) 11:01, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
12:16:34, 3 April 2022 review of submission by QuantumMechanicsLover
- QuantumMechanicsLover (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Ashneer Grover ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Hello, Please help me to edit this draft of a living person to get it into article. According to the reviewer there's notability problem but the subject is very popular on ground level and is one of the most searched topics in recent times. Please help how can I get out of this notability issue.
QuantumMechanicsLover (talk) 12:16, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- QuantumMechanicsLover You can't "get out of this notability issue". No amount of editing can confer notability on a topic. Popularity and fame is not the same as notability. As the draft was rejected, it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 12:23, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
17:50:13, 3 April 2022 review of submission by Vinothcj
Annamalai was a popular IPS officer turned politician now in Tamil Nadu, I hope i have rectified all the citations which was mentioned as errors. Learning wikipedia by editing articles.
Cheers!
Vinothcj (talk) 17:50, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
19:03:17, 3 April 2022 review of submission by Bisti123123
- Bisti123123 (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Zeepkist ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Hey, i was wondering what more sourcing i need to get this site public? i do have some sites talking about this game but how can i know you guys consider them "legit"?
Bisti123123 (talk) 19:03, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- It has been rejected and tagged for speedy deletion, there is nothing you can do, there are zero reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 19:12, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
22:58:26, 3 April 2022 review of submission by Anasalaskari
- Anasalaskari (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Maqbool Hassan ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Anasalaskari (talk) 22:58, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
April 4
Request on 00:37:01, 4 April 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by PetSematary182
- PetSematary182 (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Deborah Gail Stone ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
I've edited and checked the sources on this article twice, with the same reviewer claiming that it relies too much on unreliable sources and isn't notable. I would like to challenge both of these claims. For one thing, the article includes both primary and secondary independent sources, including a published legal case that is noteworthy, a published book that mentions the case, a published magazine, videos and news articles. Secondly, Deborah Gail Stone is a notable figure for a variety of reasons, not merely her death, but also the social impact, legal impact, resurgence of her story in the digital age, and the accident's influence on Disney's decision to improve the safety features on its rides. If the argument the reviewer holds is that Ms. Stone herself is not notable as a person, then I could rename the article to reflect its focus on the case at hand that she was at the centre of rather than a biographical article, but I don't understand why this article keeps getting rejected, as it's been improved multiple times and cites a number of notable secondary sources. PetSematary182 (talk) 00:37, 4 April 2022 (UTC)PetSematary182
PetSematary182 (talk) 00:37, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- PetSematary182, Quora, Random youtubes, Top 10 lists, findagrave, Instagram... get rid of the junk sourcing. No Reviewer is going to approve an article with bad sourcing. When you have only actual reliable sources, re-submit.Slywriter (talk) 01:09, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Will do, have done, but even at this point, with those sources now removed, that still leaves a number of valid primary and secondary sources, but the reviewer who keeps checking the article had no issue with the "junk" sourcing to begin with. They take issue with the notability of the subject, which seems strange considering that two published books (not self-published either,mind you), an official legal case digest from the state of California, a non-tabloid magazine, a news company and a filmmaker have all contributed coverage to the case extending beyond merely just a brief mention, whether Instagram, YouTube, Quora and all those other now-removed sources needed not to have applied. I've looked over what defines "notable" on Wikipedia when it comes to both historic cases and biographies of people, and this subject matter fits the criteria but for a few issues with the validity of contemporary sources, the majority of which, as you advised, have now been removed. PetSematary182 (talk) 01:49, 4 April 2022 (UTC)PetSematary182
- @PetSematary182: This falls under WP:1E as being known for a single event, but whether or not that one event is enough, the incident is also written about in America Sings#Deborah Gail Stone Incident. Perhaps do a redirect and improve that content instead? TechnoTalk (talk) 18:34, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Will do, have done, but even at this point, with those sources now removed, that still leaves a number of valid primary and secondary sources, but the reviewer who keeps checking the article had no issue with the "junk" sourcing to begin with. They take issue with the notability of the subject, which seems strange considering that two published books (not self-published either,mind you), an official legal case digest from the state of California, a non-tabloid magazine, a news company and a filmmaker have all contributed coverage to the case extending beyond merely just a brief mention, whether Instagram, YouTube, Quora and all those other now-removed sources needed not to have applied. I've looked over what defines "notable" on Wikipedia when it comes to both historic cases and biographies of people, and this subject matter fits the criteria but for a few issues with the validity of contemporary sources, the majority of which, as you advised, have now been removed. PetSematary182 (talk) 01:49, 4 April 2022 (UTC)PetSematary182
09:47:17, 4 April 2022 review of draft by Academician.NYAS
- Academician.NYAS (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Ljupčo Kocarev ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Hi, Academician Ljupčo Kocarev, as a President of Macedonian Academy of Sciences and Arts is clearly a relevant public person, so we will be grateful if someone correct or improve (Draft) article about him for English Wikipedia. Thanks!Academician.NYAS (talk) 09:47, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Academician.NYAS (talk) 09:47, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Academician.NYAS: I think your best chance to show notability is WP:NSCHOLAR, and the Google Scholar citations help. On the other hand, posting his writings about a political issue don't demonstrate notability, and clutter up the source section, per WP:OVERCITE. You need to include what others write about him. Has anyone written about him and discussed his political views? TechnoTalk (talk) 18:24, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, I agree. You may edit all parts you think necessary. On my side I will not intervene on this Wikipedia with respect o this person any more. Besides, I am an amateur in editing. Some Macedonian editors should continue with any process left regarding the article. Sorry for any hardship or trouble. Best Regards, Academician.NYAS (talk) 20:11, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
11:10:39, 4 April 2022 review of draft by Tykosay
Hello, I am asking if my wikipedia page is ready to be resubmitted. The original edit request regarded a copy-pasted list of 20 key ideas that are essential to the page's subject. While the 20 lines were copy and pasted, I deleted them and resubmitted. The page was reviewed again and I was told that the Revdel was not completed. I must have done something incorrectly. Can you please tell me 1) if it is okay to quote from the source page (https://objectparadise.com/Manifesto) or 2) if I must delete this info (which I have), why the page has been declined again? Thank you.
Tykosay (talk) 11:10, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Tykosay: After a quick review of the sources, there's little that suggests the organization meets Wikipedia's standard for notability. Please see WP:GNG. You want the sources to be less of what the organization and its partners write about it, and more about what independent writers write about it. TechnoTalk (talk) 18:00, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
17:29:34, 4 April 2022 review of submission by Colby221
Jared Goldsmith born in Livingston, New Jersey, Jared has been performing since the age of 5. As a child, Jared had his start in commercials for Quaker Oats (2003), Wendy's (2004) and Charmin (2004). He then began a voice-over-career on the Nickelodeon TV series Blue's Clues and its spinoff series Blue's Room. Jared went onto voice characters in the Warner Bros. film The Ant Bully (2006) and also landed a minor spot in the film Spider-Man 3 (2007). Jared has recorded many book series' such as Roscoe Riley Rules, Dan Gutman's My Weird School and Timmy Failure, for which Jared received the EarPhones Award by AudioFile Magazine (2015). He also danced multiple times in the Macy's thanksgiving day parade. Jared earned his BFA in Music Theatre from Elon University in May 2018. In August of that same year Jared began rehearsals for the First National Tour of Dear Evan Hansen, which officially opened on October 5, 2018. After playing Dear Evan Hansen to 25 cities, Jared took his final bow on the First National Tour September 22, 2019. Jared joined the Broadway company of Dear Evan Hansen on October 22, 2019 at the Music Box Theatre, where he was performing until the pandemic hit Broadway. In August 2021 Jared went viral on TikTok for his cover of Lemonade. It has over three million likes. On December 11th 2021 Jared helped reopen Dear Evan Hansen on broadway. He also landed a role in Disney's Better Nate than ever, playing the squeaky sophomore. Self proclamied bagel enthusiast.
Colby221 (talk) 17:29, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Nothing to suggest they are notable. Theroadislong (talk) 17:32, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
20:41:29, 4 April 2022 review of submission by Showmewhatyouknow
- Showmewhatyouknow (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Gayvn Locke ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Gayvn Locke is a game developer, an up in coming one in that, so I ask you to reconsider your decision. -Luke Showmewhatyouknow (talk) 20:41, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
- Actually nevermind I realized that they don't pass the test, mis read the rules. Showmewhatyouknow (talk) 20:42, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
April 5
01:52:49, 5 April 2022 review of submission by ICHx
There also exist a news article on the topic(https://www.theregister.com/2021/12/21/quite_ok_image_format/).
The entry is the only missing page under 'Graphics file format'. Thank you for reviewing the decision.
ICHx (talk) 01:52, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
06:29:45, 5 April 2022 review of submission by Valentinc9
- Valentinc9 (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:RKB Bearing Industries Group ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Hello, I used references from Yahoo, Bloomberg, and local media outlets. The draft still got declined. Also, a scholarly article mentions the group. I'm not paid, but I mentioned that I might be paid in the future. I've received: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. How? I've seen a lot of pages with lesser information and sources. I think this is just ill will at this moment. Valentinc9 (talk) 06:29, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Valentinc9 There is no "ill will" here. Please read other stuff exists. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate articles to get by us- this does not mean more can be added. In addition, the submission process has not existed the entire time Wikipedia has existed, and is not required of everyone(only new and unregistered users) so there are numerous ways to get something past us. We can only address what we know about. If you would like to help out, you can identify inappropriate articles that you see for possible action.
- The sources for your draft are almost exclusively press releases and announcements of routine business activities(such as opening a company facility). Wikipedia is not interested in the routine activities of a company. Any article about a company must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. As your draft does not do this, and the prospect of that happening seems low, the reviewer rejected your draft, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 08:50, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
08:56:19, 5 April 2022 review of submission by Alphaed
I trimmed the draft as possible. But posting is blocked. How i can submit an article for moderation? Alphaed (talk) 08:56, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Alphaed The draft was rejected, meaning that resubmission is not possible. Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about a company and what it does(such as the "solutions" it offers). Wikipedia articles about companies summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. If there is new information that the last reviewer did not consider, you must appeal to them directly. 331dot (talk) 09:15, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Alphaed, I previously rejected because you resubmitted without any attempt at improvement. While you have attempted some improvement, issues remain. 1) Please clarify your relationship with the subject per WP:COI and WP:PAID. 2) The article still has a completely unsourced section about services. 3) Sourcing still remains problematic, leaning heavily primary and passing mentions, If you want a another bite of the apple, please clean up these issues and identify WP:THREE independent secondary sources which discuss the subject and place them on the talk page of the draft.Slywriter (talk) 14:13, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
13:51:45, 5 April 2022 review of submission by LeoN4rdB0naks
- LeoN4rdB0naks (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Leonard C Banakos ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
LeoN4rdB0naks (talk) 13:51, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- LeoN4rdB0naks You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not social media for you to tell the world that you like going to UMass games. 331dot (talk) 13:54, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
I am requesting a re-review because I have added a reference to the person the page is about. LeoN4rdB0naks (talk) 13:59, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- LeoN4rdB0naks For additional comment, please edit this existing section, instead of creating additional sections. You seem to be writing about yourself; if so, please read the autobiography policy as to why this is highly discouraged. If you are not Mr. Banakos, you will need to change your username at Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS.
- YouTube and Twitter are not reliable sources. As I said, Wikipedia is not a form of social media; it is a place to summarize what independent reliable sources state about a person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. Not every person merits a Wikipedia article. I don't think the fact that you attend UMass games is written about in independent reliable sources unless it is significant in some way. The draft was rejected, as I said, and won't be considered any more. 331dot (talk) 14:07, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think you know what you're talking about. Social media-websites and applications that enable users to create and share content or to participate in social networking, Wikipedia shares contend for social networking, does it not? LeoN4rdB0naks (talk) 14:46, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- This has been some disappointing customer service. 1* LeoN4rdB0naks (talk) 14:47, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- No, absolutely not, Wikipedia does NOT share content for social networking. Theroadislong (talk) 14:49, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- @LeoN4rdB0naks: That is because we are not a business and do not have "customers" as such. We are an encyclopaedia project, and our job here is to help users who are legitimately here to help build it, not those who only see it as a substitute for whatever social media platform. We have zero control over what content Facebook, Twitter, et al scrape from us, and in fact we receive a lot of complaints from users because this content tends to very quickly become outdated due to subsequent edits to the original article. We have zero tolerance for people editing Wikipedia simply to game a checkmark; the only reason that Facebook, Twitter, et al even have that as an option is for older people whose career largely predates the Internet writ large.
- There is a very, very wide gulf between "creating and sharing content" and "social networking" - I create and share content every day outside of Wikipedia, but never to a mass audience. To assume that the two are the same is fallacious, and speaks more to your misunderstanding of Wikipedia than our (frankly minimal at worst) misunderstanding of social media. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:25, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- This has been some disappointing customer service. 1* LeoN4rdB0naks (talk) 14:47, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think you know what you're talking about. Social media-websites and applications that enable users to create and share content or to participate in social networking, Wikipedia shares contend for social networking, does it not? LeoN4rdB0naks (talk) 14:46, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- LeoN4rdB0naks It appears that you greatly misunderstand what Wikipedia is. Please learn more about what we are here. 331dot (talk) 15:33, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
14:28:37, 5 April 2022 review of submission by Shehrozs
Hello,
I've completed a draft today for Bango plc and have added various references to coverage from neutral sources. I'm aware company material like blogs and press releases are not admissible, but feel the other coverage constitutes more than passing mentions. Would just like to notify in case other reviews are performed. Please inform me if the page can be approved in light of this, or whether additional material needs to be added.
Many thanks,
Shehrozs
Shehrozs (talk) 14:28, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Shehrozs Wikipedia is not a place to document the existence of a company and tell what it does and/or who its customers are. Those are routine business activities that does not establish notability. A Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. Please read Your First Article. If you were to submit the draft as it is now, it would be declined again. What do others say is significant about the company(on their own, not based on materials it has been fed by the company? Is it dominant in its field? Has it created innovative business techniques? Influenced social policy or society? Just existing is insufficient for a Wikipedia article. 331dot (talk) 15:43, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
14:32:23, 5 April 2022 review of submission by Rahamathullaitprof
- Rahamathullaitprof (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Fahad Hamad Al-Roudhan (1) ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Rahamathullaitprof (talk) 14:32, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Rahamathullaitprof: This draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. No sources, no article, no debate. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 21:27, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
14:50:45, 5 April 2022 review of submission by Cryptoluva
- Cryptoluva (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Telos (blockchain platform) ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Genuinely confused what the issue is here? I Cited almost everything I included in the article fully, should I redo it without any of the information thats not cited in some random PR publication that got its actual information from the website of the platform? This rule makes no sense.
Cryptoluva (talk) 14:50, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Cryptoluva You have chosen to edit in a contentious area to start your editing "career", which will invariably result in you hitting many pitfalls along the way. This subject area has special rules, which I will inform you about on your user talk page. You appear to have a conflict of interest, please read WP:COI and WP:PAID. A Wikipedia article is not for merely telling about a company and what it does or offers. A Wikipedia article about a company must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company(not based on materials it has been fed by the company) showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. Mere existence is insufficient for this- others wholly unconnected with the company must have significant written about the importance of this company to establish notability. Please read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 15:42, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- I can add to this a bit more beyond 331dot's on point assessment. This was also purely an advertisement as it only ever told the reader about the greatness of this product and all the wonderful features. It did not even attempt to explain the product in a neutral tone. If you decide you are going to continue to edit about this subject you will have to drop any form of promotion and stick to the facts as laid out by independent reliable sources. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 16:29, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
15:30:55, 5 April 2022 review of submission by DarylStories YT
- DarylStories YT (talk · contribs) ()
- No draft specified!
DarylStories YT (talk) 15:30, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Why did my article get declined?
- It wasn't declined it was rejected the topic (you) is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Theroadislong (talk) 15:34, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
16:33:48, 5 April 2022 review of submission by JM at Remitly
- JM at Remitly (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Remitly ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Hello! I'm a Remitly employee who recently had a proposed AfC draft for the company declined. The reason given was that the copy reads too much like an advertisement. I was wondering if someone might be able to point out which parts of it come across as dishonest or promotional? The draft is independently sourced and I tried to make sure it didn't hype up the company's accomplishments so much as neutrally describe Remitly and its technology. But I'm totally open to constructive criticism and want to understand what I could have done better. Thank you! JM at Remitly (talk) 16:33, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- JM at Remitly The whole thing is promotional. You don't have to be soliciting customers or selling something. A Wikipedia article about a company must not merely document the existence of the company and describe its offerings. It must do more, it must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage, and not based on materials from the company, have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company. Most of your sources seem to document routine business activities, which does not establish notability. Please read Your First Article.
- The best indicator of notability is when an independent editor on their own takes note of a company in independent sources and chooses on their own to write about it. Trying to force the issue often does not end the way the company wants. 331dot (talk) 17:47, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
17:48:55, 5 April 2022 review of submission by Martinboyer
- Martinboyer (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Carlendy Official ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Martinboyer (talk) 17:48, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. IMDB is not considered a reliable source. 331dot (talk) 17:52, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
18:05:39, 5 April 2022 review of submission by Yosedelabianca
- Yosedelabianca (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Mike's Cigars Inc, ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Yosedelabianca (talk) 18:05, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Why is this article considered advertising, when others in the same category (and linked in its content) aren't? I won't resubmit, but there doesn't seem to be a coherent policy on this regard.
- Yosedelabianca Please read other stuff exists. As this is a volunteer project where people do what they can when they can, it is possible for inappropriate articles to get by us. We can only address what we know about. If you would like to help us out, please identify these other similar articles you have seen so we can take action. If you want to use other articles as an example or model, use those classified as good articles. 331dot (talk) 18:24, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
Request on 19:51:13, 5 April 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by ChefBear01
- ChefBear01 (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:The Union (comics) ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
I am looking to create a separate article that purely focuses on the comic series, I am unsure how to proceed to ensure it is as comprehensive as possible and could not expand the page due to not having a lot of experience creating articles on this topic (see talk page).ChefBear01 (talk) 19:54, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
23:48:40, 5 April 2022 review of submission by 2603:8001:6143:9E:6041:512D:47F:762C
- 2603:8001:6143:9E:6041:512D:47F:762C (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Super Bowl LX ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
2603:8001:6143:9E:6041:512D:47F:762C (talk) 23:48, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hello IP, the draft was declined because of our policies against articles about events in the future (see WP:CRYSTAL). As the reviewer who declined the draft said, we shouldn't have any articles about these topics until some reliable information has been published, such as the hosting city. >>> Ingenuity.talk(); 01:56, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
April 6
03:42:44, 6 April 2022 review of draft by VistaXL
I've just had an article rejected and would like some help correcting it.
VistaXL (talk) 03:42, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
VistaXL (talk) 03:42, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- Your draft was declined not rejected, it was declined because we already have an article on Recreational vehicle. Theroadislong (talk) 11:39, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
09:38:50, 6 April 2022 review of submission by DarylStories YT
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DarylStories YT (talk) 09:38, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- As above, your draft was rejected the topic (namely you) is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. Theroadislong (talk) 12:02, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Tootara
My [[1]] was declined with the below statement.
This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources. This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
Please let me know how to improve it.
Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ARA Software Development (talk • contribs) 12:09, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Note: User indeffed after posting and draft tagged for CSD by another user Justiyaya 12:23, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
12:25:14, 6 April 2022 review of submission by PriyadharshiniRajkumar
- PriyadharshiniRajkumar (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Actress Priyadarshini Rajkumar ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
This is Actress Priyadharshini Rajkumar A Notable person in Film Industry who worked with many stars as supporting artist in popular movies, and have given the references as the same reference PriyadharshiniRajkumar (talk) 12:25, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- Your draft was rejected, it will not be considered further, notability cannot be inherited by working with "stars". Theroadislong (talk) 13:12, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
13:38:32, 6 April 2022 review of draft by Швец Виталий
- Швец Виталий (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Ivan Danishevsky ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Швец Виталий (talk) 13:38, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- You don't ask a question. 331dot (talk) 17:14, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- What looks like advertisement in draft?
- This draft is translated page from russian Wikipedia and i thought it should be auto confirmed. Швец Виталий (talk) 09:33, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Translations are not automatically accepted. Each language version of Wikipedia is its own project, with their own editors and policies. What is acceptable on one version is not necssarily acceptable on another. The draft only tells about this man and what he has done. English Wikipedia articles must do more, they must summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. 331dot (talk) 09:38, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Sabur Ali
SABUR ALI is an Indian poet,born and brought up in a village named Balikuri , Barpeta district of Assam in India He has already published so many of his poems as a co-author.He is a co-author of 20 books. He has already deserved so many national and international accolades for his poems. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SABUR ALI Author (talk • contribs) 17:15, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Why did my article declined? — Preceding unsigned comment added by SABUR ALI Author (talk • contribs) 17:17, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- SABUR ALI Author You appear to be editing about yourself. This is highly discouraged, please see the autobiography policy. Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves, but a place to summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage state about a person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person. Please read Your First Article. Your draft was deleted as promotional because it did little more than state that you exist.
- If you are not writing about yourself, please change your username at Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS. 331dot (talk) 17:24, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
23:13:17, 6 April 2022 review of draft by Mtnocean
Mtnocean (talk) 23:13, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
An editor left revision suggestions on the page "Draft:Form4." I made those revisions and then notified that editor of those changes. Then another editor declined the page (they said because it read more like an advertisement than an encyclopedia entry). I based the page on other approved pages in the same field (architecture firms). What, specifically, should be revised next to make it more appropriate for inclusion? Thank you.
23:33:07, 6 April 2022 review of draft by 2601:18E:8201:7B50:A4D9:1D2A:997:6433
- 2601:18E:8201:7B50:A4D9:1D2A:997:6433 (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Peter Gena ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
I found this interesting in that these are sources for traditional publishers much more prominent than Wikipedia. In any case, other editors elsewhere did not question that notability of this individual with the same sources, especially considering the numerous individuals in this field who already have notability who have established far less longevity or whose pages are more akin to promotional than actual substance (see composer Michael Vincent Waller for a good example of an entry that appeared to be written full of promotional quotes rather than suggested notability standards).
In any case, it is useless to try to assess the response and I left this article behind. He is, of course, a notable figure - his collected artistic papers and scores, multiple awards, published articles, and books edited, published by traditional publishers, as well as his professional and public interactions indicate.
It is not required that Wikipedia editors acknowledge that, although the very first Wikipedia editor had clearly stated Wikipedia standards of notability were not the problem. What was the conflict? His artistic and pedagogical work was acknowledged by numerous real world accomplishments, the highlights of which were listed. He is older now and much less active. Many sources are no longer available online or never were. The SUNY Buffalo Peter Gena Collection, the award of the French government, the John Cage Reader book, and things like the podcasts with Studs Turkel, Other Minds, and his releases on famous experimental music labels, like Lovely Music, the documentation of the Kyle Gann article, etc. will suffice for a legacy as shown online at this moment and the simple Wikipedia article can come when editors are ready to cite better reasons for now.
As it is useless, I gave this up. That said, I will mention the draft to others who have more time and wherewithal to meet your standards while I get back to my own work. Like I said, the Peter Gena Collection at SUNY Buffalo, The John Cage Reader, the French government award, the decades of work on DNA Music, the New Music America festival, and the record releases on a historical music label, Lovely Music, known to all as the work of Robert Ashley’s widow, Mimi Johnson, that catalogues the most prominent musicians of that era, all these facts existing by nature of their production, realization, and occurrence will do for Peter Gena.
I think if there were editors that were familiar with the topics they edited this would be helpful. These sources would make more sense to them - for example, papers/collections are held by museums and institutions for notable artists in perpetuity requiring significant archival expense and research and are awarded only in circumstances where it has been deemed of historic importance to preserve the physical materials, artworks, etc. Primary sources now removed had actually improved the draft by providing supplementary commentary on sources with significant independent coverage that offered the context. The removal of them weakened the draft and the resources for the readers. Other sources suggested by Wikipedia, including Wikiquotes, had also improved the draft. I write for traditional media and academic journals. What can I say? I will leave the draft to someone who better understands what is up.
2601:18E:8201:7B50:A4D9:1D2A:997:6433 (talk) 23:33, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- IP Editor - First of all, I'm sorry to hear that you had a poor experience with your draft. From what I can tell, nobody has explicitly shown you the relevant notability guidelines, which in this case are WP:NCOMPOSER and WP:NPROF. To demonstrate notability, the subject must reach one or both of these standards (or the general notability guideline). To briefly address your concern about other articles' existence, I will point you to WP:OSE and state that you may nominate that article at WP:AFD if you feel the subject is not notable. I also want to point out that sources are not required to be available online, so non-internet sources are perfectly fine. Best of luck to you with your draft, feel free to contact me on [talk page] if you have any further questions. Thanks! AviationFreak💬 03:54, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
April 7
06:39:12, 7 April 2022 review of submission by Amnakaleem18
- Amnakaleem18 (talk · contribs) ()
- No draft specified!
Amnakaleem18 (talk) 06:39, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
I don't understand why my article is keep getting rejected as I have provided everything, every citation. There is no specific reason of rejecting. If there is any problem please mention it as a line number.
- It has not been rejected, it was declined for reading like an advert, for instance "Future World School has been awarded with numerous prestigious awards based on its outstanding contribution and excellence. The awards are a true reflection of the academic excellence and all round development of learners." is unsourced and totally inappropriate marketing, in fact none of the "awards" are sourced. Theroadislong (talk) 06:54, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
17:10:22, 7 April 2022 review of submission by ParisBlue
- ParisBlue (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Storelocal Cooperative ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Editor said the page read too much like an advertisement and was not neutral. I don't understand what reads like an advertisement as this simply tells the facts. The sources used are legitimate (Inside Self-Storage, an industry publication, as well as the California Business Journal and others). ParisBlue (talk) 17:10, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Content like " Storelocal uses the combined strength of its 1,300 member facilities to offer a variety of services to members, including customer acquisition, financial assistance, marketing support, and technology" certainly looks like blatant advertising to me. Theroadislong (talk) 17:50, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Request on 18:05:43, 7 April 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Toocheck22
- Toocheck22 (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Nikolas Toocheck ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Hello, everyone! Thanks for reviewing my page! I see you've declined it because it's been flagged as a personal web page and an autobiography. That's a totally reasonable guess given my username! In fact, I am not Nikolas but rather his older sister. I am aware that this is a conflict of interest and that a personal connection to the subject warrants additional review, which, in the name of objectivity, I completely welcome! However, I wanted to ask if the personal page and autobiography issues are the only reasons the page has been declined. I believe Nikolas's accomplishments are notable enough to warrant a page, just like other young athletes such as Winter Vinecki and Jordan Romero have. My list of sources supports the media's view of his notability as well. Because of this media coverage and because he does have an actual personal website, I can assure you that this page is not intended to be used as publicity. Please let me know what you think, as I'd really like to have this page published. Thank you!—Toocheck22
Toocheck22 (talk) 18:05, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
20:01:11, 7 April 2022 review of draft by Mariaarriega
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- Draft:Adrian Quesada ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Requesting deletion of Draft:Adrian_Quesada as there is already a live page at Adrian Quesada. Mariaarriega (talk) 20:01, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
Mariaarriega (talk) 20:01, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
21:28:52, 7 April 2022 review of submission by Sarahiscool2024
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- User:Sarahiscool2024/sandbox/About dogs. ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
why was my article declined? Sarahiscool2024 (talk) 21:28, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Sarahiscool2024 The reviewer left the reason on your draft. We already have an article about dogs, Dog. You wrote a nice essay, but that is not a referenced encyclopedia article. Writing a new article is the absolute hardest task to perform on Wikipedia. If you have well referenced content to add to the dog article, please propose it at Talk:Dog. 331dot (talk) 23:14, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
April 8
01:24:35, 8 April 2022 review of submission by 2601:241:480:6340:0:0:0:8F56
- 2601:241:480:6340:0:0:0:8F56 (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Kale My Name ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
VegNews, the world’s largest plant-based media brand, has just announced KALE MY NAME as the 2022 Veggie AwardTM Winner for BEST VEGAN CASUAL RESTAURANT. In the 22nd annual Veggie AwardsTM, more than 2 million votes were cast in 57 categories ranging from Best Vegan Cheese, Ice Cream, and Meat to Favorite Vegan Celebrity, Athlete, and Social Media Star. The annual Veggie AwardsTM is the largest survey of vegan products, people, and places on the planet.
“Kale My Name” is a leader in the plant-based industry and continues to develop stellar vegan meals. We are pleased to honor your accomplishments with a 2022 Veggie AwardTM,” says VegNews Publisher Colleen Holland.
Kale My Name is a globally inspired 100% Plant Based restaurant.
2601:241:480:6340:0:0:0:8F56 (talk) 01:24, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Unless you can provide more sources than that, the same issues - i.e. the overwhelming majority of the sourcing being Kale My Name being used as a prop in a source that's hardly about Kale My Name - are in play. In fact, the sourcing for the draft at present is completely unchanged from January, and you've done jack to correct it. See also the March 2022 and January 2022 threads. As none of the edits since January have actually done anything to improve the sourcing, I am going to start reverting off requests for this article as disruptive if it's clear the sourcing hasn't been touched since the last thread. Stop trying to use Wikipedia to promote this company. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 03:56, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
02:44:29, 8 April 2022 review of draft by 142.114.185.52
- 142.114.185.52 (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Longchuansmilus ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
I am new to Wikipedia and I don't know much about editing drafts. How much kilobytes should there be for main space?
142.114.185.52 (talk) 02:44, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Gigabytes? We chop down articles that are above 50 or so kilobytes in length; that's smaller by a couple orders of magnitude. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 03:59, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oh my bad 142.114.185.52 (talk) 11:50, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
04:32:05, 8 April 2022 review of draft by TrueStay
Hi, I was wondering if I could get any pointers on why this looks like promotional content? Besides the companies stated value, all sources are external to the company. Should I try to find an external source for the company value? To confirm I am not affiliated with this company in any way, all information has been put together from articles, which is how I assumed other pages are created (though I did see many pages that site information from the company specifically - is this not accurate and if so how do I flag those pages to Wikipedia)? Thanks
TrueStay (talk) 04:32, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- @TrueStay: This is a bulleted list, not prose. Even disregarding that, routine business news isn't useful for notability. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 05:01, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
04:56:09, 8 April 2022 review of submission by PriyadharshiniRajkumar
- PriyadharshiniRajkumar (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Priyadarshini Rajkumar ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
this is the autobiography of me Priyadarshini Rajkumar well-known actress in Tamil film industry for the past two decades. I have provided self-sufficient external resources. why it is not getting approved and if it's getting rejected help me out where is the exact issue is?
PriyadharshiniRajkumar (talk) 04:56, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- @PriyadharshiniRajkumar: We have little tolerance for autobiographies due to the inherent conflict of interest when writing about oneself. This draft has a frankly obscene amount of unreferenced biographical claims which in and of themselves are reason to decline a draft; other than that, mu. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 05:04, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
05:13:48, 8 April 2022 review of submission by 202.149.222.58
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- Draft:Aarkstore Page ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Request to review again and give opportunity to list our company information on Wiki page, In content we have only added company details, We are not advertising. 202.149.222.58 (talk) 05:13, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- A distinction without a difference. We're not a listing; we're an encyclopaedia project. And to that point, this draft cites absolutely zero sources, making it dead on arrival. You need to provide multiple in-depth, non-routine, independent news articles written by identifiable authors in outlets with editorial oversight responsible for fact-checking, disclosure, retractions, and corrections in order for an article to even be considered. You, personally, are also obligated to register an account and formally disclose your relationship with the company. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 05:30, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
05:24:54, 8 April 2022 review of draft by DavidJRohde
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- Draft:Allegation of UN sharing names of dissidents with the Chinese Communist Party ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
I created the article: Draft:Emma Reilly and submitted an early version. I received feedback to say she was not notable. I added further references to show she was notable, but received a further comment that she is best known for one event. This is debatable - in french she has a wikipedia page: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Reilly but I see it as valid. It was suggested that I then create a page on her and the event, which I did which is here: Draft:Allegation of UN sharing names of dissidents with the Chinese Communist Party this page has now been rejected because it is a duplicate. What is the best path to withdrawl the old article on Emma Reilly and have the new article considered for inclusion in Wikipedia? Thank you!
DavidJRohde (talk) 05:24, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- You may simply edit your original draft; do not worry about its title, if accepted it will be placed at the correct title. You can request that your second draft be deleted by placing {{db-g7}} on the draft(without the nowiki tags I have placed to suppress that function here). 331dot (talk) 08:18, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
07:51:43, 8 April 2022 review of draft by Edwardgao123
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- Draft:CCGrass ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Excuse me, is there an editor to help me review my newly created draft? Many thanks:) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:CCGrass
Edwardgao123 (talk) 07:51, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Edwardgao123 You must actually submit your draft for review by clicking the "submit your draft for review" button located in the box at the top of your draft. 331dot (talk) 08:12, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Was my draft submitted for review ? Can`t se any confirmation
Hey
can someone please help me to improve and publish the draft?
This: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kramatorsk_train_station_attack
Thank you
- I have reviewed it. If you are trying to be first wuth the news that is not a Wiki9pedia function. Wikipedia is, typically, last with news bevcuase it is a tertiary source, reporting what is said in reliable secondary sources 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 12:46, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
13:08:47, 8 April 2022 review of draft by 209.6.11.83
- 209.6.11.83 (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Leadership-as-Practice ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Reviewers are merely repeating the initial critique of my article. I have made many changes to ensure an encyclopedic style and deleted any text that sounds like an opinion. The topic is an important domain and awaits coverage. My request is to have a fresh review - not one resorting to repetition of a prior review. When comparing my entry to others, it seems to qualify as well-written, adequately referenced, and encyclopedic. I ask respectfully for your help.
209.6.11.83 (talk) 13:08, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- I concur with the previous three declines, your draft reads like an essay. Theroadislong (talk) 16:49, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
14:19:26, 8 April 2022 review of draft by Marta.866
I don't understand what is the problem with the article. It seems copied, but from where? This is a little treated subject on which I have written other articles myself, but if it is a writing issue, it can be corrected (English is not my native language, I do not know if there are other ways of expressing the text). Can you tell me more specifically what the problem is, or directly correct it or give me guidelines to do it myself?
Marta.866 (talk) 14:19, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Marta.866, I believe that the reviewer thought that it was copied due to the lead section being unclear and containing some grammatical errors. Perhaps Compassionate727 (who appears to be the only active editor on Wikipedia:Translators available#Spanish-to-English) can help? The draft appears to be a translated version of an es-wiki article. Justiyaya 15:51, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
14:36:19, 8 April 2022 review of submission by Jacob.p.servant
- Jacob.p.servant (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:John Stuart Edwards ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
I have updated the references as requested. Jacob.p.servant (talk) 14:36, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
15:10:37, 8 April 2022 review of submission by LaurenTimeToRefresh
- LaurenTimeToRefresh (talk · contribs) ()
- Draft:Kate Mason ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
I'd like to know how to undergo 'cleanup' to comply with Wikipedia's content policies, as my draft currently has a COI issue. If I could be pointed in the right direction for this process that'd be great, thank you!
Also, just a note that I understand the other reasons why my article was rejected and I'll work on those too before resubmitting.
Many thanks!
LaurenTimeToRefresh (talk) 15:10, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- LaurenTimetoRefresh, first is read WP:COI and WP:PAID and make the proper declarations. Once that's done, follow the advice given by previous reviewers and focus on providing information from independent secondary reliable sources.Slywriter (talk) 15:21, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
- @LaurenTimeToRefresh thank you for coming to the AFC help desk, there seems to be an lot of of unreliable sources used in the article. All contentious material about a living person must be have an inline citation that contains a reliable source supporting it. Please review our WP:COI guidelines and if you do have a COI with the subject, please disclose it. If this is unclear, feel free to reply to this message asking for clarification. Justiyaya 15:29, 8 April 2022 (UTC)