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April 2022
Nice of you to comment on James Madison. Everything you said about the FA sounded like a good idea and if you might be interested in doing the GOCE edits with an eye to doing the edits and trims which you described to me on the James Madison Talk page, then I would try to support as well as possible for me. Does that sound possible for you? ErnestKrause (talk) 23:11, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
- In support of all your edits over night which I think are all of benefit to the article. Regarding your suggestion to split the article for Madison's part in the writing of the Constitution, then I think its fully possible to do that and maybe leave a short 2-3 paragraph summary, with the new link to the split article in the pertinent main article section. The Wilkinson material was inherited from a previous editor at the GAN and I shortened it quite a bit, I think further trims are possible. Its one of those issues of not wanting to be criticized for avoiding issues which were not flattering to Madison in the article for neutrality in coverage within the article as a whole. (I'm supporting your deletion of that section). If you would like me to do the page split for Madison as author of the Constitution, then I can schedule some time to do it by the end of this week. Your edits to the article improve it quite a bit and I thought that maybe, after I do the page split, that you might consider the possibility of doing a co-nomination for the article at FAC (possibly instead of the GOCE path which may be a little duplicative at this time). What do you think? ErnestKrause (talk) 14:55, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- ErnestKrause 50% reduction from where it is now is not necessary (that would make it under 6,000 words). It's currently 11,777, if trimmed by 1/4 to 1/3 I don't think anyone would oppose based on length. I'm happy to take a look at it after split, but it would make more sense to make Orser67 or Cmguy777 co-nom since they have been significant contributors to the article prose. (t · c) buidhe 15:22, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
- The split is now done and the article is now linked to the newly split article, for a further trim of about 10K from the article. Orser67 is listing as semi-retired now, and Cmguy777 was not available for the GAN co-nomination, though both of them are welcome to jump in during the FAC if they can find time for it. After you have a chance to look at the page split which I just put in, possibly you might have some further reflections on a possible co-nomination. I'm supporting the edits which you have made over night as improvements to the article. ErnestKrause (talk) 15:59, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
I've looked through the reference which you had submitted at FAC recently and your reference listing appears to be mistaken for "Kim, Youna (2021). The Soft Power of the Korean Wave: Parasite, BTS and Drama. Routledge." Youna Kim is not listed as the author of a book-length study as you appeared to be stating, and the "book" is really a collection of various essays on various aspects of the current Korean Culture Wave and not about BTS; Youna Kim is listed only as an editor of the collected essays. The subtitle's mention of "Parasite, BTS and Drama" uses the Korean film "Parasite" as a symbolic reference to discuss the Korean film industry in general, and the band "BTS" is used as a symbolic reference to the contemporary Korean music industry in general. The collection of essays you cited as a 'book' appears to have no applicable material for the BTS article. Were you aware that your reference to this 'book' was a non sequitur? ErnestKrause (talk) 14:17, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- ErnestKrause before mentioning it, I checked the table of contents and noticed that several chapters are about BTS, so directly related to this article! Of course Kim is the editor but please help me understand why that makes the book irrelevant? (t · c) buidhe 15:20, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
- The short answer to your question is that the book you mention is not written about BTS but that it is written about the Korean Culture Wave. Prof Kim is a sociologist teaching in Europe and who specializes in the general sociological study of Korean cultural influence in the world. She does not present herself as a specialist in BTS studies or as a music expert in any way. She is an accomplished sociologist with no pretenses about being a film expert for the Korean film "Parasite" or the music band "BTS"; it is not her subject.
- Your comments about 'deprecated sources' from the recent FAC appeared to be mixed from your similar comments from the James Madison Talk page where you talked about the same subject of 'deprecated sources'. In the case of James Madison, another editor had added a poorly constructed Memorial section in the article with no references at all. During GAN for James Madison, I then went to the individual articles mentioned by the previous editors and copied over the citations which were being presented at those individual pages as documenting the issues which were uncited by the previous editor in the Memorial section of James Madison. You then pointed out that the citations taken from that other Wikipedia page which I took the reference from needed to be replaced because it was deprecated, and I went ahead and changed out the defective citation. If you have an issue with the deprecated citation which I added, your issue would need to be taken up with the editors (whoever they are) at the linked pages which are currently presenting the bad citations as being valid; the issue is not that I am intentionally using bad material as much as that other editors are currently editing with bad sources at the linked pages which the James Madison Memorial section is currently linked to. You can contact those other editors on their Talk pages by looking up their names in the edit histories of the linked article in the Memorial section of the James Madison article if this issue is of concern to you.
- I present this in detail because the original difficulty at the BTS page was the exact opposite of a problem with bad citations which seems so important to your comments. The original version of the BTS page from last October here [1] was that it had over 600 fully formated citations and was over 410Kb is size, which required over an hour to read from top to bottom. All of the over 600 citations were fully formatted from reliable sources, however, there were just too many of them and the article was much too long. The article was brought down to about 350 citations at about 210Kb in length at the time of GAN, which seems to be much more within expected Wikipedia parameters for recommended page size and article length. That leaves at least another 300 fully formated citations as currentlly archived and ready for use. If I add in the several hundred BTS citations which currently appear in the sister articles of the main BTS article for their individual songs and multiple individual albums, then the number of available fully formatted citations probably adds several hundred more fully formated citations. The problem is not too few fully formatted citations for the BTS article, but an apparent abundance of citations which are available and currently archived in Wikipedia history archives. I hope that clarifies your question about Kim's book and the currently available reliable citations available for the BTS article. ErnestKrause (talk) 15:28, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
'Debate about genocide' article
In case you missed it: Ukrainian genocide during the Russian invasion of Ukraine (not created by me). Boud (talk) 09:42, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
- Hmm, the article title does not seem to be neutral to me, since as you say, there is debate over this. (t · c) buidhe 12:39, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Argumentum ad verecundiam and WP:CLAIMS
Hello Buidhe,
You recently reverted the change I made on the page Turkish Passport (film) claiming that it does not violate MOS:CLAIM. Indeed, it does not violate it because MOS:CLAIM is different from WP:CLAIMS, which I have cited in the first place. You also claimed that the source is reliable, and again, I did not made any claims regarding the reliability. The problem is, I went into the source and Ungor does not cite any particular source for this part, and it is obvious that it is his own personal opinion. Argumentum ad verecundiam, which is advised to be avoided in WP:CLAIMS, precisely describes this situation: "[...] argumentum ad verecundiam is a form of argument in which the opinion of an authority on a topic is used as evidence to support an argument." As a result, I will be reverting your reversal and wanted to notify you.
Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BearnaiseSauce (talk • contribs) 23:12, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
- BearnaiseSauce Ah I see, WP:CLAIMS is an essay and I do not believe it represents consensus. Point is that Ungor is an expert on Turkey and similar opinion has been expressed by other scholars studying minorities in Turkey such as Baer, Rifat Bali etc. Therefore it seems reasonable to include. (t · c) buidhe 04:08, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Comprendre (journal)
What is 'not ready'? A description would help to correct the page. How many pages describing academic journals are acceptable? 50%? Let's review them.
- Examples (there are hundreds)
- Archiv für das Studium der neueren Sprachen und Literaturen
- Aries (journal)Xx236 (talk) 07:34, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
Promotion of The Holocaust in Greece
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Congratulations, and thank you today for the article about the Armenian genocide! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:07, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
Incomplete DYK nomination
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Invitation to join the Ten Year Society
Dear Buidhe,
I'd like to extend a cordial invitation to you to join the Ten Year Society, an informal group for editors who've been participating in the Wikipedia project for ten years or more. I wish I sent this at the exact 10 year mark in April 22, but oh well. Also, thank you for your stupendous work on important and highly viewed articles!
Best regards, Wretchskull (talk) 10:13, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Your work to promote Armenian genocide to FA is incredibly impressive. I almost couldn't believe it![2][3] Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) please always ping! 02:39, 25 April 2022 (UTC) |
ANI notice
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Your message about copyright issues
Dear buidhe, on May 2, 2022, you posted a message on my talk page about copyright issues in my article History education in the Netherlands. Normally I write articles for the Dutch Wikipedia, so I'm not quite familiar with the rules of the English one yet. I read the information on Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia, but is not yet entirely clear to me what actions I should take now. Could you tell me what I need to do specifically to improve the article? I look forward to your response! Kind regards, S. Perquin (talk) 19:40, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
DYK for Holocaust uniqueness debate
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Congratulations from the Military History Project
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