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Where is the source who says that Colchis was the 18th satrapy in the Achaemenid Empire? All sources say that he was a vassal and an ally, but not a satrap.
No historian on this planet has ever written that Colchis was in any satrapy and if I am mistaken can anyone name one source who says these words "Colchis was a satrapy". CeRcVa13 (talk) 08:09, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Why do you keep repeating this when I've already showed you a source that contradicts you? Moreover, the current infobox map is already supported by 4 sources. I'm gonna cite the source for a last time: "The situation is reminiscent of Colchis and Caucasian Iberia. Once, it was inconceivable that they had been under Achaemenid rule; now, ever more evidence is emerging to show that they were, forming a lesser part of the Armenian satrapy", page 665 "A Companion to the Achaemenid Empire and While “Armina” is already mentioned as a Persian satrapy in the Bisotun inscription, the territories of the former soviet republics of Georgia and Azerbaijan, as well as the northern part of Armenia, became part of the empire at the latest when the Persian army marched through this region during Darius I’s disastrous campaign against the Scythians in 513/12 BCE." - page 297, same source. While it might not have been part of this so called '18th satrapy', (which you keep mentioning) it was still part of the Achaemenid Empire. --HistoryofIran (talk) 11:16, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
To address this issue, despite CeRcVa13's indef block;
"Under the Medes and the Achaemenid Persians, the Georgians of Colchis and of Iberia achieved parity, if not unity: Sasperi, or Iberians, formed the eighteenth Satrapy of the Persian empire, and Colchians(Herodotus lists them as Moskhi, Tibarenes, Makarons, Mossynooci and Mars) formed the nineteenth Satrapy." -- Donald Rayfield, "Edge of Empires : A History of Georgia", page 18-19. --Kansas Bear (talk) 23:04, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Name of the empire
Given the native name and various non-native sources such as Encyclopaedia Britannica, I would like yall to consider adding the name the "Achaemenian" empire before Achaemenind in the opening paragraph. That would be the most accurate. 72.142.172.132 (talk) 19:05, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Iranian, not persian
learn the differences, the Achaemenid Empire included many other Iranian ethnicities than Persian. Krqftan (talk) 11:23, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody is saying its exclusively ethnic Persian, its called "Persian Empire" in English because westerners referred to all of Iran as Persia. --Qahramani44 (talk) 17:31, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Persians ruled by Assyrian Empire
"For a number of centuries they[Persians] fell under the domination of the Neo-Assyrian Empire (911–609 BC), based in northern Mesopotamia."
After two attempts by an editor to reference this particular sentence, I found;
Sophist Kings: Persians as Other in Herodotus, Vernon L. Provencal, page 98;"There is no record of the Persians before 1000 and 'we hear nothing certain about them or the development of their state'..... before the seventh century. The earliest record is of an event occurring about 647 involving a certain "Kurash, king of Parsuwash", who appears in an Assyrian text in which Ashurbanipal recounts his destruction of Elam."
Which would indicate that the Persians could not have been under the domination of the Neo-Assyrian Empire for centuries, if no record of them is found until 647!
In Daniel Potts' paper[a], he cites differing opinions as to Kurash's possible ethnic origins, page 287-288. Potts also makes no mention of Persians under Neo-Assyrian rule. As such, said sentence will be removed. --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:55, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
^The Archaeology of Elam Formation and Transformation of an Ancient Iranian State