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Muslim roma people
1.) In case you haven't seen it, I only mentioned northern cyprus twice in the section in the article Muslim romani people, so I deleted one mention.
2.) Rom is not called man in romanes language, it means Husband. Man means Djeno. Roma in Coptic means human, you can read about it, on wikipedia coptic language and everywhere.
3.) Ottoman or Turkish culture is the same for the Muslim roma at the Balkans.
4.) That there was once a separate sandjak for muslim roma at the Ottoman empire, is actually a general knowledge, why do you need to source? ???
5.) The Romanlar in Turkey are Sunni Muslims of Hanafi Madhab, there are no christian roma group in Turkey. So why you always wrote today and mostly in the Article ??? today and mostly in which case? What you want to say with this phrases ? It is also known that the majority of Turkish-speaking roma, especially in bulgaria, describe themselves as turks and deny their roma origins. Please read the article of the roma in bulgaria on wikipedia.
Your non-roma makes no distinction between the various roma groups. You throw them all in one pot, the only example you non roma people use are the vlax roma from romania. However, the majority of the roma are not vlax roma from romania. There is no single origin theory that all diverse roma groups accept, almost every group has its own myth of origin. Especially based on the country where the roma live in since centurys and which religion they belong to.
I hope you are satisfied when I get banned. Anyway, it's no longer fun on wikipedia, there are so many self-proclaimed historians who just refuse to allow other opinions. As for sources, if self-proclaimed non-Roma historians are used as a source because they publish books, articles, etc., should that be considered the truth? Also the fabricated word romani in english, what is that supposed to be? The word Romani or Romanes, actually refers to the language, not the people. However, many Roma groups do not refer to themselves as Roma, but by other names.
--Nalanidil (talk) 13:24, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
- "That there was once a separate sandjak for muslim roma at the Ottoman empire, is actually a general knowledge, why do you need to source? ???"
- You have to source even general knowledge on Wikipedia.
- "Your non-roma makes no distinction between the various roma groups. You throw them all in one pot, the only example you non roma people use are the vlax roma from romania. However, the majority of the roma are not vlax roma from romania. There is no single origin theory that all diverse roma groups accept, almost every group has its own myth of origin. Especially based on the country where the roma live in since centurys and which religion they belong to."
- I do not explicitly deny any of these things, I do not claim to be an expert; but if one person is allowed to add unreferenced statements, everyone is, and the encyclopedia falls apart.
- "So why you always wrote today and mostly in the Article ???"
- It's in the demographic section, but there is no census data etc, I assumed someone would add census data eventually. I wrote "today" because it's talking about today.
- "There is no single origin theory that all diverse roma groups accept,"
- Alright, but Wikipedia follows a neutral point of view, so both academic and folk origins have to be included, neither at the expense of the other.
- "I hope you are satisfied when I get banned."
- I don't want you to get banned, the problem is that it's a slippery slope, like I mentioned.
- "Anyway, it's no longer fun on wikipedia, there are so many self-proclaimed historians who just refuse to allow other opinions."
- Because Wikipedia has specific aims and goals, a lot of them for good reason. I understand your frustration, but Wikipedia is not the only Web site on the internet.
- "As for sources, if self-proclaimed non-Roma historians are used as a source because they publish books, articles, etc., should that be considered the truth?"
- Wikipedia is not truth in and of itself. I do not think that you are making things up. However, one cannot tell where you're getting it from- if it's oral history, I have nothing against it, but that doesn't fit here if it's not published, because almost no one can check if it's true. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, as well.
- Best wishes regardless,
- Dege31 (talk) 16:06, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
As I already mentioned, the knowledge of these sources is based on only one group, namely the Vlax Roma from Romania, their culture, religion, way of life, myths etc., are unfortunately transferred to all other non-Vlax Roma by self-appointed non-Roma historians. And that makes me angry.
Nalanidil (talk) 19:29, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
- Nalanidil this may be hard for you to understand, but Wikipedia is not the right place to "right great wrongs". Please read this: WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. Because we are an encyclopedia, everything needs to be backed up with a reliable source, not by opinions. That is just how it works here. You might feel less frustrated by posting your opinions and experiences on a social media group about Roma. Just a thought... Netherzone (talk) 21:27, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
draft:bahara alavi
There are 18 reliable sources for the subject of Bahara alavi which are independent and have significant coverage for that. why are not Wikipedia's users able to see those sources? it is so confusing.Khabat4545 (talk) 13:44, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- General notability guideline
- Obituaries usually do not count as significant coverage, because they often do not address the subject in detail. This can be seen in your draft: most of the article does not focus on the subject. There are two paragraphs total about the subject herself, most of the draft is commentary. So I advise you to add sources focusing on the subject's life and/or work. Or if there are secondary sources commenting on statements like "Her death provoked wide reactions among the human and women's rights activists", that would also be some significant coverage. As it stands, the subject is quite close to People notable for only one event, ie the main coverage is on the death. Thank you for your cooperation. Dege31 (talk) 14:23, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
Declining of "List of roads in Brampton article"
You reviewed and rejected my submitted article. One thing you asked was to prove the name "Airport Road" was named due to the presence of an airport. Will this do (2nd link at end)?
"Airport Road is designated as Peel Road 7 and named for Toronto Pearson International Airport in Mississauga, near where it begins."
I have more to ask, but this for now.Transportfan70 (talk) 19:41, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
- I did not ask for proof, I asked for a source. I have little doubt it's named after the airport, but even for statements like that an article usually would need a source.
- I'm happy to answer any further questions. Dege31 (talk) 14:24, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia has a policy regarding the obvious: Wikipedia:You don't need to cite that the sky is blue.Transportfan70 (talk) 03:57, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
- Not the best example, admittedly. I also mean a source verifying its existence in addition to Google Maps. Dege31 (talk) 16:27, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
Me again. I corrected two of the issues. But what do you mean that Google Maps is not reliable and uses copyright traps? Transportfan70 (talk) 04:49, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
- Google Maps is not the most reliable because it's not very open with its sources.
- Copyright traps are fake entries in reference works designed to catch copyright infringement. Google Maps has included such entries multiple times.
- Therefore, different sources are preferred. Dege31 (talk) 14:05, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
But these link to satellite photos of major cities. How can they be fake? For one thing, they can't be fake "ghost areas" as I wouldn't even have a basis to write an article if they were, as I wouldn't even think of looking for them.
That's some tough review criteria! Transportfan70 (talk) 18:19, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
- Errors are still possible and it's harder to verify it. The greater concern however is more about whether there are better sources available. If it's the best available source, I think that could be alright. But Google Maps should probably not be a habitual replacement for anything else. Dege31 (talk) 18:39, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
I don't really think there is anything else, as municipalities don't tend to put detailed maps online, and if they do you can't link to the zoomed-in area specifically. Transportfan70 (talk) 01:27, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
Have you made a decision yet?Transportfan70 (talk)
- You mean regarding Google Maps? It's fine if there are no other sources at hand, but ideally they will be replaced over time. I would not decline the article over it. As for linking to zoomed in areas- that's not necessary, only the map would be needed. Dege31 (talk) 20:31, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
Is the article good to go? If so, when will you move it to the article space? Transportfan70 (talk) 03:11, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
I took care of those. Transportfan70 (talk) 01:03, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- There are still unsourced sections like: Embleton Road, second half of Queen Road, Castlemore Road, Sandalwood Parkway, Countryside Drive, Mississauga Road, second half of Creditview Road, … Dege31 (talk) 17:33, 22 December 2021 (UTC), Dege31 (talk) 17:33, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- I'm still working on the draft by adding references. Will it be deleted soon if I don't resubmit it? It's been nearly 6 months. 01:29, 1 April 2022 (UTC) Transportfan70 (talk) 01:29, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- I added all the references you asked for to the roads listed above.Transportfan70 (talk) 03:50, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- The article is in a better shape, good job regarding that, but there are still claims that should be either sourced or removed:
- "Before the downloading the road only bore the name east of Main and Hurontario Streets (with the portion to the west simply being Highway 7), and thus was not divided into east-west sections."
- "As of 2021, most of the area along the road corridor as far east as The Gore Road are under are either development or recently developed, but remains rural east of there to Highway 50."
- "Rural until 2000s, the road's corridor is seeing rapid development as residential expansion encroaches from the south, mostly concentrated along the central section; mostly on the Brampton side, but also, to a lesser degree, on the Caledon (north) side."
- "Later, the Brampton section was linked with an extension of Meadowvale Boulevard"
- "which is (as of 2021) seeing rapid residential construction in the areas to the east."
- " It is typically much busier and wider in Brampton"
- "To preserve the river valley and the hamlet of Churchville it has been retained as a minor rural road"
- "James Potter Road is a modern-built"
- "Mavis was built in the late 1990's as a bypass of Chinguacousy (former Second Line, and still designated as such in Mississauga) in both Brampton south of Steeles and Mississauga to avoid the latter city's historic Meadowvale Village."
- "omken Road, like Kennedy Road, is named for Thomas Laird Kennedy, with "Tomken" being a
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- "The southernmost stretch was originally part of Heart Lake, while the northernmost section is a later-built extension that veers east to tie into West Drive"
- "It has its own unique address numbering anomaly with a numbering sequence distinct from both the main grid and north-south systems for the section between Steeles Avenue and Queen Street"
- Dege31 (talk) 20:55, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- "The article is in a better shape, good job regarding that, but there are still claims that should be either sourced or removed"
- *sigh* Why didn't you bring all this stuff up before getting my hopes up?? Sheesh! You're asking for the impossible now. Information for a lot of these completed projects is likely impossible to find, but omitting will mean it won't make sense. :( I used to live in the areas and have followed the history of its roads for decades. Have some good faith.
Transportfan70 (talk) 02:24, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- I have good faith, but I bring it up because it will make the article less likely to be challenged. It's how this project works:Verifiability, not truth. Sometimes obvious stuff is excluded nonetheless, if a source cannot be found. Dege31 (talk) 07:25, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
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Name of Favorite (Vampire
Hi, I hope I'm not bothering you, I saw that you approved my AfC submission for Favorite (Vampire but the title of the page in the mainspace doesn't have the final bracket and I can't move it to its actual name. I'm new to Wikipedia, so I wanted to ask if there was a reason for it or if it's just an error. Thank you! Poirot09 (talk) 17:40, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, there is a reason. It's because there is a redirect with that name. I'm sorry to inform that I don't know how to fix this either, that's why I made do. Dege31 (talk) 17:44, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
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Accepting draft of Tajine Zitoun
Hello @Dege31:. I don't get why you onesidedly accepted the draft for Tajine Zitoun as it is, when several comments highlighted the flaws with the article, namely the improper use of sources. I also think you didn't properly follow the guidelines for Publishing drafts. The article as it is, while certainly notable, has poor quality and significant bias. I recommend putting it back into the draft namespace for further improvement. --Ideophagous (talk) 13:34, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- I am not aware of how a draft can be accepted or rejected otherwise. What guideline did I not follow?
- There are flaws in the article, but nothing fundamental. Articles for Creation exists to keep out articles that blatantly violate policies. It's not a repository for imperfect articles. It will be further improved in mainspace. In fact, you can add that it's present in Moroccan cuisine yourself. As for "stronger associations", that's best left for the talk page. Dege31 (talk) 14:11, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
- I think the only biased person here is you, Ideophagous.
- One look at your page and you can see that you have received multiple warnings for engaging in edit wars.
- Tagine zitoune, an ancestral Algerian dish that translates to "Olive tajine." It can be made with chicken, beef, lamb, or minced meat, and always includes mushrooms and carrots.
- It should not be confused with the Moroccan dish Djadj b'zitoune, which translates to "Chicken with Olives," and contains no carrots nor mushrooms, and is also cooked differently with different spices. perhaps you should create a Wikipedia page on that, with citations referencing Morocco given that all of the references I chose were directly mentioning Algeria and the Algerian way of making this ancient dish.
- Regarding the references, I'm not sure how they aren't credible given there are over a dozen of them, all of which are peer-reviewed, published books, some of them dating back to the 1970s, so I'd want more clarification on that. I'm also curious as to which of the references did not include a section on Olive Tagine. Slothtysloth (talk) 23:15, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Re: Submission at Articles for Creation (Vict0ny)
Good day! Thank you reviewing Draft:Vict0ny earlier. I saw your comment and went to work to sourcing the part you mentioned. I did that already, if you have some time, I'd appreciate if you can check it out again. Super grateful as this is an important learning opportunity for me. Thanks again --Olakunle Rufai (talk) 16:01, 23 May 2022 (UTC)