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Precedence
This has been on my mind for a while, but the debate above made me decide to raise it. We have a header, {{S-prec}}, for boxes that show an individual's position in an order of precedence. I think that's been installed in the succession boxes of a bunch of current peers, but not all that widely elsewhere. I don't think this is really an appropriate use of succession boxes. The whole point of precedence is to rank-order an arbitrary set of people possessing some distinction: "OK, X is #237, Y is #58, Z is #106". Knowing who is immediately above or immediately below a person in the order is very rarely going to be relevant; usually you're comparing people separated by some distance in the order. Does anyone else agree that we ought to remove the precedence succession boxes and, when done, delete the header, to reduce cruft? Choess (talk) 14:55, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Choess: I agree entirely. In addition to your concerns, these succession boxes are uniquely hard to keep up to date as people's position within the line changes over time. With the exception of those near the very top of the list, I feel like I can never trust their accuracy. 207.161.86.162 (talk) 03:49, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
- Agree -- This is likely to be far too unstable to merit a succession box, being altered each time someone dies or inherits a title. A list would not doubt be useful, but unless a means can be found of that list automatically updating the succession boxes, they will be difficult to maintain. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:26, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Documentation maze
I recently stumbled into this area for the first time, and despite being a pretty technically-inclined editor (e.g. I'm a template editor), the amount of documentation here is utterly overwhelming. The fact that your sidebar box has five different places with primary information (project page, documentation, guidelines, templates, and cheatsheet) rather than just one only begins to get at the problem. And despite that, basic information is missing: I just spent several minutes searching for instruction on where to put the succession box before I realized I needed to go check MOS:LAYOUT, which thankfully had the info. If you all want anyone other than dedicated project members to be able to contribute with succession boxes, I highly suggest that you make improving the documentation and condensing it down to a single page a priority.
I'd also suggest starting some discussion about whether or not it's okay to use {{Infobox officeholder}} for non-political offices, as I see that all the time but have recently learned it may not be appropriate (see this discussion). {{u|Sdkb}} talk 15:15, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
When to add a succession box
Is there a standard when adding a succession box is appropriate? It appears that most US government office holders have a succession box. My efforts to standardize this have been met by reverts and WP:ONUS and WP:OSE. If I'm wrong then I'll stop but I'm trying to get a better answer than I have been receiving.Yousef Raz (talk) 21:51, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
S-boxes on iPad articles
Hello there! I'm not sure what to do with each of the S-box parameters (especially "Years", "Before" when there is no predecessor, and "After" when there is no successor yet) on the iPad pages. Would someone mind taking a look?
These are the pages I'm talking about:
IPad (1st generation), IPad (2nd generation), IPad (3rd generation), IPad (4th generation), IPad (5th generation), IPad (6th generation), IPad (7th generation), IPad (8th generation),
IPad Air, IPad Air 2, IPad Air (3rd generation), IPad Air (4th generation),
IPad Mini (1st generation), IPad Mini 2, IPad Mini 3, IPad Mini 4, IPad Mini (5th generation)
Thank you. Andibrema (talk) 15:13, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Opportunity to use succession boxes
I came across February 7 (Eastern Orthodox liturgics) through random page patrol. The links at the top ought to be converted to succession boxes there and in all similar articles. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 23:57, 17 January 2022 (UTC)