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- And talking of famous slebs..... Martinevans123 (talk) 14:11, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for your kind email, which will doubtless prevent WMF having to appear in court. Ah, those were the days, eh? Real entertainment! "Jonathan King meets Ronnie Biggs" worth the licence fee on it's own, I'd say. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:37, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- They say "50 years is a long time in politics"... Good old Jacob! He'll only be 102. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:22, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
- He's just so laid back isn't he. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:51, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- And I thought it was going to be something in poor taste about Savile or Glitter.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 11:16, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Like this, which is one of the cleaner ones.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 11:22, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- This would make a great infobox image.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:54, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, he looks almost human. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:05, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
- Another ideal infobox image. This is how the nurses at Stoke Mandeville reacted when they heard that Savile had arrived.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:28, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, he looks almost human. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:05, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
- This would make a great infobox image.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:54, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
- Like this, which is one of the cleaner ones.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 11:22, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- And I thought it was going to be something in poor taste about Savile or Glitter.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 11:16, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- He's just so laid back isn't he. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:51, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
- Today's Savile meme was created by Boris Johnson.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:50, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- Ah yes, that was before all those beery lockdown parties in Durham. But I had not realised how involved Starmer was in McDonald's Corporation v Steel & Morris [1997]. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:41, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
- And we've had a letter from someone who wants to take part in this year's Platinum Jubilee.[1]--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:03, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
- just for old times' sake... [2] Martinevans123 (talk) 08:32, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
- And we've had a letter from someone who wants to take part in this year's Platinum Jubilee.[1]--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 06:03, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
- Ah yes, that was before all those beery lockdown parties in Durham. But I had not realised how involved Starmer was in McDonald's Corporation v Steel & Morris [1997]. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:41, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
The truth is out..... yet another Tory sleaze scandal! Martinevans123 (talk) 21:43, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
- Since we haven't had this yet.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 07:39, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks also for the email. You are indeed the Savile meme king. Martinevans123 (talk) 18:20, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- £75 is not much, is it? Martinevans123 (talk) 17:05, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, it was one of the items flogged off at an auction of his personal belongings which raised £320,000 in July 2012.[3] At that time it was still possible to do this before it all started to go tits up when the ITV documentary was broadcast in October 2012. This also shows why the tabloids aren't a reliable source. The Daily Mirror article states as a fact that it came from a corpse, but the official report concluded only that Savile had unsupervised access to the mortuary and the rest is hearsay.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 17:15, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- For some reason, most of the hearsay about Savile seems to be a tiny bit salacious. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:41, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Savile picture of the day. Probably no longer on Paul or Ringo's mantelpiece.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 16:43, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like George had enough already... Martinevans123 (talk) 17:15, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- I'm Only Sleeping.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 17:42, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Already in training for the mortuary job, it seems. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:59, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Paint It Black (the hair).--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 12:27, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- Already in training for the mortuary job, it seems. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:59, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- I'm Only Sleeping.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 17:42, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like George had enough already... Martinevans123 (talk) 17:15, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Savile picture of the day. Probably no longer on Paul or Ringo's mantelpiece.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 16:43, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- For some reason, most of the hearsay about Savile seems to be a tiny bit salacious. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:41, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, it was one of the items flogged off at an auction of his personal belongings which raised £320,000 in July 2012.[3] At that time it was still possible to do this before it all started to go tits up when the ITV documentary was broadcast in October 2012. This also shows why the tabloids aren't a reliable source. The Daily Mirror article states as a fact that it came from a corpse, but the official report concluded only that Savile had unsupervised access to the mortuary and the rest is hearsay.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 17:15, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Savile and marathons
Did Savile really run 217 marathons? he claimed this here in 2007. Other runners found this implausible.[4] "Jason Henderson, on Athletics magazine, wrote: "I discovered that many of the 'marathons' he bragged about were actually 10km or half-marathons - not that anyone cared."[5] Henderson is probably right that this is WP:AUTO and should be approached with caution. Savile was fit, but 217 marathons is a bit like Kim Jong Il doing a 38 under par round on the golf course. Nothing was ever proved about Savile's marathon claims, but they do seem a bit dodgy. --♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 09:00, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Or cycling everywhere on a pushbike... Martinevans123 (talk) 09:03, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- What does the name Peodo mean? "A user from Malaysia says the name Peodo is of African origin and means "Strong tribe leader". Martinevans123 (talk) 11:59, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
Top of the Pops
One of the interesting things about TOTP is that the early editions from 1964-7 were made at a disused church in Manchester. There are some good photos of it here. I liked this one saying "Heel caps will be provided and must be worn with stiletto heels. No person admitted under 14 years of age. Please leave valuables at home." Although this edition was pre-recorded (likely on quadruplex videotape) it probably doesn't exist today due to the BBC carelessly wiping the tapes.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 14:53, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Or carefully wiping the tapes after October 2012... Martinevans123 (talk) 14:58, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
- Now then, guys and gals, I had a look at this page on the BBC website that lists surviving TOTP episodes in the archive. It can't be correct though, because we know that there is a video with Savile introducing Jonathan King performing "Everyone's Gone to the Moon" on TOTP on 19 August 1965, when it was at number 4 in the charts. You've probably seen this before, but due to WP:YOUTUBE I won't link to it here. Anyway, I'm sure your web search skills are up to finding it.😉--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 15:53, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
2001...
Hi Ianmacm, I kind of agree that my addition of the video is based on OR. However - I have some further pics which more directly show the resemblance to the movie, which I did not upload yet. I have little time right now but will get back to you with some hard facts ;-) This edit is just to tell you to please not delete this from some other articles where I inserted it until we discussed this. Regards, Pittigrilli (talk) 17:44, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- This really does need a source. If it isn't mentioned in a news story etc it has no suitable basis for being added to the article. It is more on topic at 2001: A Space Odyssey in popular culture, but even there it needs to be established that it is based on the film. The spacesuit isn't anything like the ones used in the film and I'm still not convinced that this has clear influence from 2001.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 18:28, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Slowly, man, slowly... Look right at the still from same setting as my video. Look at the segmented white/beige ring around the astronaut, which surrounds the scene completely. Then compare with a scene from the Youtube video from 2001 with the exact title "4 Ways 2001: A Space Odyssey Was a Visual-Effects Pioneer" from 0:20 (I am not allowed to post it as URL) --> A woman dressed in white (not an astronaut though, but there are plenty, right?) walking very close to a beige segmented ring behind her in a spacecraft. Even the tone of the colour is quite similar. Now, how likely is it that a shop designer comes to this quite exotic setting (--> with an astronaut...) without knowing the movie and thinking of it? Pittigrilli (talk) 18:57, 6 May 2022 (UTC) PS: Even the diameter of the segmented ring is mainly similar to the one in the movie, and the material is leather (or at least appearing from the texture as such) - both in the shop decoration and in the movie. This is a highly unusual material for a space environment, and that the shop designer has the same, a bit strange, idea for his space-like decoration is close to impossible imho. Pittigrilli (talk) 20:59, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- It might be seen as having an influence from this scene where the stewardess walks until she is upside down. However, it is not something that can be added without a secondary reliable source mentioning it, in line with WP:POPCULTURE guidelines.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 21:46, 6 May 2022 (UTC)