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Amiya
Hi, You reverted my edit on Amiya but I do not understand why. Amiya was redirecting to Amaya even though the two words are different and there's no mention of Amiya on Amaya. What's more, Amiya does have a meaning in Arabic which is "colloquial version of the language" (see for instance: http://etheses.uin-malang.ac.id/16250/ ). Could you please explain why you reverted my edit? Best, A455bcd9 (talk) 14:10, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, could you please answer my question? Or should I consider that I can revert your edit? Best, A455bcd9 (talk) 09:26, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- A455bcd9, the main reason is that Amiya is not mentioned in the article on arabic dialects. Therefore, that only leaves a single viable direction, and that's to the amaya dab, as a variant spelling. Onel5969 TT me 12:19, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi onel5969, "amiya" is mentioned but with a different spelling because it's a transliteration of Arabic: "a local colloquial variety (called العامية, al-ʿāmmiyya in many Arab countries, meaning "slang" or "colloquial"; or called الدارجة, ad-dārija, meaning "common or everyday language" in the Maghreb), in different aspects of their lives.". "al-ʿāmmiyya" is also spelled in the references cited "'ÂMIYYA", "amiya", or "a’amiya". That's why I edited this page. Amiya is not a variant spelling of amaya in Arabic and amiya is not mentioned as a variant spelling of Amaya on the dab page so I think the current redirection does not make sense. What do you think? Best A455bcd9 (talk) 14:45, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- A455bcd9, the main reason is that Amiya is not mentioned in the article on arabic dialects. Therefore, that only leaves a single viable direction, and that's to the amaya dab, as a variant spelling. Onel5969 TT me 12:19, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Reverts on United Nations Articles
I am working to improve the consistency of the United Nations goodwill ambassadors articles to reflect a consistent style that is being emulated by the United Nations using abbreviations. While I do not know everything there is to know about Wikipedia, I am very meticulous and consistent to follow up with details and improvements including updating the Wikidata. If there is something I am doing is wrong or prohibited please let me know. Problemsmith (talk) 13:14, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Problemsmith, hi, and thanks for your efforts. However, as I pointed out in my edit summary, what you are doing is called "cut and paste" (see WP:CUTANDPASTE). It has to do with attribution. When you do that, you hide the editing history of the page. What you need to do is "move" the page to the correct title. If you can't do that because there is currently a redirect page, you must request that redirect be deleted in order to move the page (request a speedy deletion using G6, and just state that you intend to move the page to the correct title). Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 13:18, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- onel5969, thank you for the guidance. I have never done it this way before but understand the importance of preserving the past edits and talk page. I am sure it is not that complicated to learn to do it the right way. Thank you very much for your help. Problemsmith (talk) 13:24, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Re: Klarisse de Guzman
The article Klarisse de Guzman was an article for deletion in 2017 when she had no significant accomplishments yet. But after the said year, the Filipino singer/celebrity had more accomplishments including albums, awards, and being a contestant in two celebrity competitions. She wouldn't be in We Love OPM and Your Face Sounds Familiar if she were not a celebrity. Klarisse de Guzman is not an AFD as of 2021; and this current version of Klarisse de Guzman article is not the 2017 version but rather an updated version.
The article also satisfied more than one of the notability criteria for music. 1. subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works (none of the references are self-published) 2. has released two or more albums on a major record label (Klarisse and Klarisse de Guzman are two separate albums from mainstream record labels) 3. has won or been nominated for a major music award 4. has won first, second or third place in a major music competition (Klarisse is the first runner-up of The Voice PH; 2nd place of We Love OPM) 5. has performed music for a work of media that is notable (Klarisse sang theme songs of TV shows of ABS-CBN network) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbhpiamonte (talk • contribs) 03:11, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Deletion review for Klarisse de Guzman
I have asked for a deletion review of Klarisse de Guzman. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Sbhpiamonte (talk) 15:34, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
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Splitting discussion for H-II Transfer Vehicle
An article that been involved with (H-II Transfer Vehicle) has content that is proposed to be removed and moved to another article (HTV-X). If you are interested, please visit the discussion. Thank you. Fukumoto (talk) 12:51, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Relapse 2 page removal
Hi there, I recently saw that you removed the Relapse 2 page, which I agree with. However, the deletion was reverted right after, and I think it’s necessary that you delete it again, as there is no need for the page. The album, by Eminem, was never even released, and the page creator is even putting the album in Eminem’s chronology, which does not follow the guidelines at all and is misinformation.
Please let me know if you can sort this, as I believe that the page creator and other will keep unnecessarily reverting its deletion.
Joeee777 Joeee777 (talk) 01:36, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
RareConnect Page
Hello Onel5969! I have a quick question. I saw that you reviewed a page of mine recently (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RareConnect) and it shows that it could possible be marked as spam. I am newer to Wiki and I am trying my best to add to the community. I've read through a ton of the guidelines to page creation here and I even used a similar wiki page for my creation efforts strcuturally. Is there something I can do differently? thank you so much for your feedback! SeanRMull (talk) 13:17, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- SeanRMull, lol, it's actually not a quick question, but I'll try to answer it as best I can. First, I would point you to WP:NPOV, and if you have an interest regarding RareConnect, than I would also point you to WP:COI. Editors who are attempting to write articles face a strange tension, they have to show that what they are writing is notable, yet they have to do it in a way which is not promotional. The key is to let the facts speak for themselves. Don't use WP:PEACOCK words or phrases. Your article probably came up as possible spam since it talks about what the organization offers. Many times that can be seen as promotional, but you presented it in a straightforward fashion, so I didn't have an issue with it. Be aware that other editors might have issue with it, that's why consensus is so important on WP. BTW, looking at other articles is a good way to learn, but also understand that WP:OSE. When choosing subjects to write about, simply look for things which either meet one of the Subject-specific notability guidelines (WP:SNG), or one which has several in-depth stories about it from reliable sources, so that it passes WP:GNG. When dealing with organizations and companies, you must also take into account WP:CORPDEPTH. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 15:20, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969 ok great! thank you so much for taking the time to explain that to me. I am going to read through those pages as I do not want to make anyone mad around here! I have been a fan of wiki for a long while now and just recently thought about adding to the site where I can. Again thank you for the great insight. SeanRMull (talk) 15:40, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Laura Elizabeth Hill Mclaughlin
Hi @Onel5969: How goes it? I had to withdraw that prod on Laura Elizabeth Hill Mclaughlin. She is absolutely notable. There was a couple of obits out there, one of the American Association of Scientists. You can't get a better reference than that. It is a wee seed article, and I plan to add an image and infobox. Thanks for finding it, in the sea of articles. scope_creepTalk 14:57, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- Scope creep, didn't know that about AAS. When I read it, even the obit seemed unimpressive, more of she was the wife of... Regardless, thanks for the explanation, and thanks for yll you do here on WP. Onel5969 TT me 15:23, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Onel5969: That is an excellent list of articles you have created. Great work. scope_creepTalk 15:37, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
"refimprove" tag
Hi Onel5969,
I sent you an email as well..
I am a co-owner of the Point La Vista page that you put the "refimprove" tag on. We have received approval to have the tag removed but wanted to see if you wouldn't mind rechecking the page for us. If you don't have time please just let me know.. thx!!
Debbie — Preceding unsigned comment added by PointLaVista (talk • contribs) 18:55, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- PointLaVista, hi. First of all, no one "owns" a page (see WP:OWN), and second, who gave you approval? Just curious. You don't need approval to remove a tag, you simply remove it. If another editor objects to the removal, they'll put it back, and then a discussion would ensue on the article's talk page. Another question, do you have a WP:COI with the page? Onel5969 TT me 19:54, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Onel5969, Thank you for responding so promptly!! I went back and read the email and I just read it wrong, no one gave approval. Also, there is no COI as I don't know any of these people and have no external relationship to them either. We will look at putting in more footnotes. Thanks Again!! DebbiePointLaVista (talk) 21:57, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- PointLaVista, cool. Keep up the good work.Onel5969 TT me 23:15, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Onel5969, Thank you for responding so promptly!! I went back and read the email and I just read it wrong, no one gave approval. Also, there is no COI as I don't know any of these people and have no external relationship to them either. We will look at putting in more footnotes. Thanks Again!! DebbiePointLaVista (talk) 21:57, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Government of Somaliland
Hi. Hope all is well with you. You might want to have a look at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Government of Somaliland Regards. --John B123 (talk) 23:13, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- John B123, thanks. Just reverted again, citing SPLIT and BRD. We'll see. Onel5969 TT me 23:15, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Sara Tea
Can you please explain your reasoning for adding Template:Advert to the Sara Tea page? What part sounds like an advertisement? There isn't promotional content and it is 100% neutral. Alexmarie (talk) 03:10, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
- Since you haven't yet responded to my message from yesterday, I'm going to go in and remove that template from the page. I disagree that it sounds like an advertisement, but if you want to discuss your reasonings, I'm all ears. Alexmarie (talk) 07:22, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Supercopa do Brasil Revert
Why are you reverting the article about 2021 Supercopa do Brasil? It's an annual event, where the participants are already defined, and there is no news about cancelation of this competition. Tiagomagalhaes (talk) 15:15, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Tiagomagalhaes, because it's uncited. Onel5969 TT me 15:19, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
- Something that is deductable. Ok. Tiagomagalhaes (talk) 15:23, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Deprodding of Museum of the Battle of Legnica
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Deprodding of Open-air museum of the Forest Railway in Janów Lubelski
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Redirect of Reagan Charleston
The redirect of Reagan Charleston is unnecessary. There is notability independent of the television show. She is an American jewelry designer and her products are sold in several countries. Wuk9494 (talk) 05:09, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Great Learning (Company)
I noticed you deleted my article on Great Learning citing reasons for G11 Unambiguous advertising or promotion. While creating this article I tried my best to keep the content neutral as well as ensure I have quality citations. Do let me know if corporate notability was an issue, since you did not mention this. If the tone was incorrect, kindly forgive me if I got this wrong in my attempt to create an article, I sincerely request you to roll back your decision and allow me the chance to improve the article. I am still learning to make quality contributions by reading up on the guidelines extensively but a little guidance to the right direction will help tremendously. Kingzod (talk) 15:09, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
- Kingzod, hi, not sure about notability, since once I flag it for advertising, I stopped checking for notability. But to show notability, you'd need several in-depth articles about the company to show it passes WP:GNG, in addition, they need to be from several areas of the country/world, in order to pass WP:CORPDEPTH. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 16:03, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for taking the time to respond and sharing your insight.
The Edtech space in India in booming and the country has grown to be the Edtech capital of the world as mentioned in the article below. Great Learning is among the leading players in the edtech space in India. This article - [1] also mentions the company
Here are a few sources: [2], [3], [4], [5].
I believe the sources mentioned above show that the article meets the general notability criteria. I request you to once again reconsider your actions, if you roll back the article it will allow me to revise the tone and improve my contribution. Kingzod (talk) 10:08, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for taking the time to go through the press coverage and confirm that the company meets the GNG. I request you again to kindly roll back my article so I can make the necessary improvements. You can then review the revised draft and confirm the article to the mainspace.
Once again, I appreciate your prompt responses and assistance. Kingzod (talk) 13:12, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969, getting a feel of COI or PAID here? Ravensfire (talk) 13:43, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ravensfire, their other edits, although sparse, are mostly on racing articles, so could be, but not sure. Onel5969 TT me 23:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello again, kindly allow me to clear the doubts here. I am a student with interests in cars and motorsports. Over the last year I’ve been taking online courses from multiple Indian and International E-learning platforms. This is also the time I started to make contributions to Wikipedia and attempted to create an article. I have no association with these people, racing teams or organisations. This conversation has been a good learning for me to understand how I can improve my contributions, looking forward to senior editors like yourself to help me complete my submission. Kingzod (talk) 09:07, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Bachelor of Homeopathic Medicine and Surgery
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Bachelor of Homeopathic Medicine and Surgery. Thank you. Guy Macon (talk) 15:16, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Garad Abun
I see you tagged Garad Abun Adashe for deletion and I just removed it, is there a policy that it must be deleted if a sock creates it or can it be kept? The article is useful and I want to improve it in the future. Magherbin (talk) 20:40, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
Spinalcord.com
I see my page has been marked for deletion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SeanRMull:/Spinalcord.com . This is another page that I built around a medical resource group. I have done one other in the past. I am confused because it does not seem to be much different than that of some of the other medical resource platform pages. I can drop the website design breakdown if that makes it feel as if it is being promoted...? I will do a complete rewrite and send it off to be approved before publishing it as a live page. I do not want to anger anyone in the wiki community. I am still new at it and learning the ropes. I have started another sandbox page in order to re work it. Thank you again for any type of feedback SeanRMull (talk) 19:04, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
NECHE is indisputably notable
I'm not trying to start an edit war but I am willing to invoke WP:IAR in this instance because the subject is indisputably notable. If you do not know what an institutional accreditor is or what that specific organization does, I strongly recommend you take the time to look into it; this article may be helpful. If you do that and still believe that the organization isn't notable, you'll need to get to work nominating all of the other institutional accreditors for deletion, too, because this was the only one without its own article:
- Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges
- Accrediting Council for Continuing Education and Training
- Accrediting Council for Independent Colleges and Schools
- Council on Occupational Education
- Distance Education Accrediting Commission
- Higher Learning Commission
- Middle States Commission on Higher Education
- Middle States Commission on Secondary Schools
- New England Commission of Higher Education
- New York State Board of Regents and the Commissioner of Education
- Northwest Commission on Colleges and Universities
- Southern Association of Colleges and Schools
- Accrediting Commission for Community and Junior Colleges
- WASC Senior College and University Commission
This is definitely a stub article and needs a lot of improvement. But that's never been a valid reason to delete or redirect an article on an otherwise notable topic. ElKevbo (talk) 14:20, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- ElKevbo, other than the fact that it currently is not sourced well enough to pass WP:GNG, you mean? WP:OSE is a pointless argument, simply provide in-depth sourcing. Onel5969 TT me 14:23, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm really trying to be collegial and friendly but you are out of your depth if you don't understand that this organization is notable. I completely agree that the current article is a stub and I'll try to find time to continue working on the article but I assure you that an AfD for any of these organizations, including this one, would be a snow keep.
- I also don't understand why you believe you have the ability to subvert AfD in this instance. Of course, you are welcome to submit this article to AfD but I don't understand why you are unilaterally empowered to delete the article or redirect it without any discussion. ElKevbo (talk) 14:35, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- ElKevbo, well, calling someone "out of your depth" is pretty funny way of being friendly. You don't seem to be aware of WP:GNG, so it's difficult to have a conversation with you. No one is saying this organization is not notable. All that has been said is that is a crappy article, with incredibly poor sourcing, which needs to be improved to remain on mainspace. So improve the article. No one is stopping you, except yourself by wasting time like this. Onel5969 TT me 15:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
BBC Sessions (The Searchers album)
Dear Onel5969, thanks for review of the Searchers BBC Sessions page, but it doesn't work now, it is redirect to The Searchers (band) :-) Huttershofen (talk) 16:35, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Huttershofen, hi. That's because it wasn't sourced well enough to pass WP:GNG or WP:NALBUM. To pass ALBUM it either has to have charted on a major chart, or there have to be several in-depth reviews of the album. If you can provide those, then it will pass. The article is still there, just redirected to the band for now. Onel5969 TT me 16:44, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- onel5969, Oh I see, OK, thanks, I will try to make it better....Huttershofen (talk) 21:03, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Huttershofen, cool. Good luck. Feel free to message me back if you want me to take another look after you improve it. Onel5969 TT me 21:17, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- onel5969, Hi, I've tried but I think I've failed. And it's hard for me to write these articles in English (I'm from Prague, Czech Republic). Each of those took hours for me, so I'm very sorry, I've lost enthusiasm. If The Swedish Radio Sessions was the same problem, it will be the same for all of the Searchers' collectors CDs I've made... Maybe somebody from the UK will make it better. Never mind, best wishes... ;-) Huttershofen (talk) 21:52, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Huttershofen, welcome, brother. My family hails from Moravia (one part of it, anyway). I'm not a big Searchers' fan, but on BBC Sessions I did find this review, see this. Incorporate it into the article and I think that puts it over the edge of GNG, as well as NALBUM. And if you ever get up the gumption, there's a nice little review for another of their albums, When You Walk in the Room at this source. Onel5969 TT me 22:26, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- onel5969 Wow, the world is so small! :-D OK, I will try it... Lukas Huttershofen (talk) 10:11, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- onel5969 Eh, I want to be fair, it is a review of a different album by the Searchers, not the BBC Sessions :-( Huttershofen (talk) 10:34, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
The Circle (British series 3)
Hello – I saw you nominated The Circle (British series 3) for speedy deletion due to it being the creation of a sock. The reason I draftified that one in particular is because I've always edited articles relating to the series and it would be a shame for it to be deleted, since the series airs soon and it would be a loss of progress. I wanted to clear that up in case you think I'm affiliated with the sock – I'm not, and have actually had various arguments with them lol (I did also accuse them of being ZestyLemonz over three months ago too, but my accusations were shut down). – DarkGlow (contribs • talk) 16:53, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- DarkGlow, no worries. Thanks for the heads up. The speedy deletion criteria only applies if there are no significant contributions by other editors, so draftification is perfectly reasonable. There were about a half-dozen or so other articles by this sock, which had been significantly contributed to others, so I left them untagged. Keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 18:48, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
Congratulations!
Hello, I'm RabbitFanon2021. I saw your success on The Masked Dancer (TV series), but you provided a reliable source. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. RabbitFanon2021 (talk) 17:41, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- RabbitFanon2021, I have no idea what you're talking about. I've never edited that page. Onel5969 TT me 18:51, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
"refimprove" tag (2)
Hello Onel5969,
Could you please explain me how to improve the article House of Talovac again. It's already been improved. Citations to reliable sources are already added; most of them in Croatian language though, but in some other languages as well. I'm sorry that there are no more sources in English, but it's not my fault. Thank you for your answer. --Silverije 19:47, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Silverije, as per WP:VERIFY, everything in WP should be sourced. So, in the article, in the "Rise of the family" section, only 1 of 4 paragraphs are sourced. In the following section, only 2 of 4 are sourced. Remember, any unsourced material can be removed at any time, so it's to your benefit to provide sourcing. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 21:16, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
Estefanía Soto
Looks like Estefanía Soto should probably be re-redirected and protected? Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:47, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Plastikspork, hmmm.... let me think about this for a second... a page sourced by FB, Instagram, Spotify, and YouTube. Yeah, probably, thrown in the tone of phrases like, "As a diva she was already involved in the world of beauty pageants when she was young", and looks like you have a fan who is going to be pretty persistent about recreation. Taking it to AfD is definitely an option to get community consensus. If you want, I'll nominate it, but I think it's simply a waste of editors' time. Onel5969 TT me 16:55, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- If you check the edit history, I tried to fix the infobox, massive Puerto Rico flag, and missing bio categories, but the new owner immediately reverts any changes. I can't really touch it any more and need someone else to have a look. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:58, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Plastikspork, yeah, definite fan page. Just AfD'd it. Onel5969 TT me 17:08, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- If you check the edit history, I tried to fix the infobox, massive Puerto Rico flag, and missing bio categories, but the new owner immediately reverts any changes. I can't really touch it any more and need someone else to have a look. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:58, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Regarding deletion of page SOCIO STORY
Can u provide me the url before deleting. Allow me to make changes by providing the previous content --Svpnikhil (talk) 04:37, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- Svpnikhil, not sure what you're asking about. Socio Story has been deleted. Onel5969 TT me 15:21, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- If want to rephrase the article, where can I find the previously written article. Please retrieve the article before deletion for improvement Svpnikhil (talk) 14:14, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Svpnikhil, you'll need to contact the admin who actually deleted the article, Seraphimblade, and ask them if they are will to recreate it in draft for you. Onel5969 TT me 14:48, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- If want to rephrase the article, where can I find the previously written article. Please retrieve the article before deletion for improvement Svpnikhil (talk) 14:14, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Speedy Deletion of Geoffrey Hudson (composer)
Just an FYI, I have rewritten and recreated Geoffrey_Hudson_(composer), which you nominated for speedy deletion due to copyright violation. The new text has been substantially revised and should no longer borrow from any external sources. Please let me know if there are any remaining copyright issues that need to be addressed. Jmads-nu (talk) 14:09, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Jmads-nu, no, it looks okay now. Not sure if you created the original article, but please be aware that WP takes copyvio very seriously. You've written a nice article, keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 14:49, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Regarding deletion of page Socio Story
Hi! I appreciate your active contributions for Wikipedia and making it credible, but you have deleted Socio Story without evaluating it and flagged it as advertisement, I am putting the facts & rational as an why this page should exist here. 1. Socio Story is a not for profit popular platform of India which does advocacy on various social pressing issues like climate change, 2. Platform has been highly appreciated by people like Dr. Andrew Fleming, British Deputy High Commissioner (Please find screenshot) 3. It has hosted several globally recognized people like Ricky Kej, Grammy Winner, Lonnie Park, Grammy Nominee, Dr. Rajendra Singh- Ramon Magsaysay awardee, Dr. Anil Prakash Joshi, Padma Bhushan Awardee and more than hundreds are there. 4. Socio Story was awarded by Colgate Palmolive with scholarship for its social impact. 5. It has social media verified accounts which reflects its popularity
Socio Story is a popular platform in India which supports Not for profits to raise their voices, if you still feel your decision is only right and you can delete it as you have all the rights, but deliberately deleting some notable page is not appreciated. You can decide the rest. Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkp1990 (talk • contribs) 14:21, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Mkp1990, are you related to user Svpkikhil? Onel5969 TT me 14:50, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- onel5969 He (Mkp1990) is the founder of that NGO. I created that article by taking references from him Svpnikhil (talk) 14:57, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Svpnikhil, thanks for that. Are you getting paid to write that article? If so, please see WP:UPE, and you'll have to go through AfC. At least, it appears you have a definite WP:COI issue, and you'll need to address that on your talk page. Onel5969 TT me 14:59, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- No no , Im not paid. Im voluntarily contributing in wikipedia since 7 years. He came to know about me through a mutual friend (my classmate) that Im a wikipedian so he approached me and I wrote article. I never charge for writing in wikiepdia. I respect wiki policies. Svpnikhil (talk) 15:12, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Svpnikhil, thanks for that. Are you getting paid to write that article? If so, please see WP:UPE, and you'll have to go through AfC. At least, it appears you have a definite WP:COI issue, and you'll need to address that on your talk page. Onel5969 TT me 14:59, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Shapira
Hi. I've taken a shortcut moving both the article AND the talk-page by cut-and-paste. Is there still a problem then? I can only think of the very unlikely possibility of dialogues on user talk-pages where certain edits are discussed and linked by their URL, but if one hits the redirect, that is solved as well, or am I overlooking smth? This article hardly has any talk-page content, so that seems very far-fetched. Now I looked up the correct procedure and have applied for removal of the redirect, so that a proper move can be made. Btw, you left the talk-page where I've moved it by cut-and-paste, so the tandem article - talk-page is twisted in a funny way now :) Arminden (talk) 14:43, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Arminden, hi. I'm not sure which articles you're speaking about, Shapira is a dab page which doesn't look like I've touched. Onel5969 TT me 14:52, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi. It's Moses Shapira, which needs to move to Moses Wilhelm Shapira. But now it's all done, I was more interested in the procedure & its logic. Trying to learn. Thank you! Arminden (talk) 16:24, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Arminden, cool. Cut and pasting (WP:CUTANDPASTE) is not allowed on WP for attribution reasons. What needs to be done is to MOVE the page, which you can't do since a redirect is blocking the move. You're request to delete that to allow the move is the exact right procedure. Sorry about the confusion. Onel5969 TT me 16:27, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Just a minute. I did read the instructions you pointed me to, so this I knew now already. The question was: since Wikipedia tells us to ignore rules which make the content poorer, and as I did copy & paste both the article AND its talk-page to the new name, what was the downside of not going the long way? Since it wasn't me who created the redirect, removing it will probably take longer, if accepted at all, so the article is now blocked with the wrong name. The man is known and quoted by his complete name. I guess there must be lots of Moses Shapiras, but just one who's also Wilhelm. So you see. Arminden (talk) 16:42, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Arminden, while IAR does say that, hiding attribution screws around with copyright stuff, which is one of the few things which is inviolable on WP. There is another way to do what you did, which is to do the cut and paste move, and then request a history merge (WP:HISTMERGE). However, I find that this tends to confuse more folks in the short run. Hope that makes more sense now. Onel5969 TT me 16:46, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Now I understand! So the history doesn't move along with the rest? Then no, of course, discussion is over. I didn't grasp that point, although now that you mention I think there was smth. on the instructions page. Now it sunk in. Thanks, and sorry to have bothered you with what might seem trivial once you get it. Arminden (talk) 18:45, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Arminden, while IAR does say that, hiding attribution screws around with copyright stuff, which is one of the few things which is inviolable on WP. There is another way to do what you did, which is to do the cut and paste move, and then request a history merge (WP:HISTMERGE). However, I find that this tends to confuse more folks in the short run. Hope that makes more sense now. Onel5969 TT me 16:46, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Just a minute. I did read the instructions you pointed me to, so this I knew now already. The question was: since Wikipedia tells us to ignore rules which make the content poorer, and as I did copy & paste both the article AND its talk-page to the new name, what was the downside of not going the long way? Since it wasn't me who created the redirect, removing it will probably take longer, if accepted at all, so the article is now blocked with the wrong name. The man is known and quoted by his complete name. I guess there must be lots of Moses Shapiras, but just one who's also Wilhelm. So you see. Arminden (talk) 16:42, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Arminden, cool. Cut and pasting (WP:CUTANDPASTE) is not allowed on WP for attribution reasons. What needs to be done is to MOVE the page, which you can't do since a redirect is blocking the move. You're request to delete that to allow the move is the exact right procedure. Sorry about the confusion. Onel5969 TT me 16:27, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi. It's Moses Shapira, which needs to move to Moses Wilhelm Shapira. But now it's all done, I was more interested in the procedure & its logic. Trying to learn. Thank you! Arminden (talk) 16:24, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Automated edit reversion at Mehora
Hi Onel5969,
I just noticed that my recent edit at Mehora got reverted not long after I did it, which apparently happened via Twinle, saying that the sources I cited did not indicate that the place exists. I'm not sure how that happened and I assume it's a bug of some sort, but I wanted to check with you before reverting the reversion and make sure there were no objections. Would you be OK with me restoring my previous edit?
Thanks, 3 kids in a trenchcoat (talk) 00:18, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- 3 kids in a trenchcoat, hi. No, it wasn't a mistake, and even though I use Twinkle, it's not automated. The issue is the first source doesn't mention Mehora, but Mahaura, which you do reference as an alternate spelling. There are actually two issues with this ref. First, it's not reliable, second, while you say it's an alternate spelling, the source does not. The second reference doesn't reference either Mehora or Mahaura. I think that second link should be this, rather than the link you provided. Also, you need to give the exact page the info is cited on. I did a search of both Mehora and Mahaura and found nothing in the document. Page 150 in that document gives an alphabetical list of villages in Lucknow, and neither of those names are mentioned. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 01:07, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969, the census doc lists Mehora on pages 139 and 141-47. Page 138 also has a corresponding map which shows Mehora in the same location as Geonames does. I guess the question here is whether connecting the two counts as original research. Would Google Maps count as a more reliable source? Because it also shows Mehora in the same spot: [6]
- Regards, 3 kids in a trenchcoat (talk) 01:41, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Fouad Brini's Article
- Hello onel5969,
Thank you for your feedback. I would like to point out that the article is linked to the Tanger Med page, also named Tanger Med Special Agency. You can see that Fouad Brini is listed as president on the French wikipedia page of Tanger Med. Here is a list of articles, about the nomination of Fouad Brini, as a public figure and president of Tanger Med: https://oxfordbusinessgroup.com/interview/obg-talks-fouad-brini-president-supervisory-council-tangiers-mediterranean-special-agency-tmsa https://www.sumitomocorp.com/en/easia/news/release/2019/group/12610 https://www.jeuneafrique.com/76308/archives-thematique/un-ing-nieur-aux-commandes/ Sincerely. --Nadinasol (talk) 10:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Vote stacking at your Notre Dame AfDs
Hi Onel, unfortunately there was an attempt at vote stacking at your Notre Dame AfDs. I warned the user and noted it on the AfDs for the closer. I didn't take it to ANI in hopes that it stops, but I'm not sure it will. Best wishes from Los Angeles. // Timothy :: talk 11:00, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- TimothyBlue, thanks for that. I mean, it will be obvious to the closer (or should be) that the keep !votes are all WP:ILIKEIT, with no basis in policy. Usually when I send something to AfD, I don't comment again. I've already done it more than I like in these AfD's. But thanks for the head's up. Onel5969 TT me 12:46, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Moving articles
Hello, Onel5969,
I see you move quite a few articles into draft space. Unless they are new articles, it would be very helpful if you could check to see if they have any redirects that can be tagged for deletion. Most articles that have been around for years have several and I've come across articles that were moved to draft space that had as many as 10 associated redirects that then had to be deleted.
If you are moving an article just to new title in main space, please leave a redirect and then one of our helpful bots can change all the redirects to the new title. But since we don't have cross-space redirects, that is not possible with a move to draft space and those can be checked by an editor by looking at "What links here". Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 05:42, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Liz, will do on the redirects, Liz. I rarely move an article to draftspace which is older than 2 months. As part of NPP, I do the back of the queue mostly. That way, as per WP:DRAFTIFY, editors have been notified of the need to improve the article (for one of several reasons), and if no improvement has been made, and yet it looks to possibly be notable, I'll draftify it. The only thing I can think of if I move an older article, is in the cases of discovered UPE. And if I move an article to a new title in mainspace, I always leave a redirect, except for when I'm doing a round-robin swap. Thanks for the heads up. Onel5969 TT me 12:46, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Last Escort edits
Hello! Thank you for trying to help with this page. Much of the information you removed as 'uncited' actually was cited, including the existence of an entire game in the series (Club Katze), as well as the famous voice actors. I will go back through later and make sure that the references are clearly noted. The content about the first two games was translated from Japanese Wikipedia which is more lax on references, so I will make sure to check for sources on that content as well. Londonbeat41692 (talk) 06:05, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- I have reinstated the section on Club Katze as it seems you may have missed the list of reliable sources (all are major gaming magazines) citing it at the bottom of that section. Londonbeat41692 (talk) 06:09, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Londonbeat41692, I indeed miss those citations at the end of the section. Apologies. Onel5969 TT me 12:47, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Regarding edit revertion of Back to Mine: Röyksopp
Hello.
You've reverted my edit of Back to Mine: Röyksopp per WP:NALBUM. But I've found some sources that shows that this album meets at least two of the criteria of which only one is needed.
I've found 4 reviews of the album, one Norwegian and 3 english:
https://nattogdag.no/skiveanmeldelse/roeyksopp-back-to-mine/
https://ra.co/reviews/4580
https://www.allmusic.com/album/back-to-mine-mw0000485632
http://www.dmcworld.net/reviews/compilations/various-back-to-mine-royksopp-6044/
Also the album has appeared on Norway's national music chart:
https://norwegiancharts.com/showitem.asp?interpret=R%F6yksopp&titel=Back+To+Mine&cat=a
(Original VG-lista listing: https://www.vglista.no/topplister/topp-40-album-2007-15/)
havarhen | Talk 14:48, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Havarhen, that's cool. Add them to the article so that it passes the notability requirements. Nice job. Onel5969 TT me 16:50, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Happy St. Patrick's Day
Happy St. Patrick's Day! I hope your St. Patrick's Day is enjoyable and safe. Hopefully next year there will be more festive celebrations. Best wishes from Los Angeles. // Timothy :: talk |
RETN
Dear Friend, I'm a very inexperienced Wikipedia user, therefore I think that reverting your changes wouldn't be appropriate, but I'd like to ask you to rethink deleting the RETN page. It's the 12th biggest ISP creating a backbone of the whole internet, and responsible for nearly half of the internet traffic between EU and Eastern Europe/Asia, therefore I think it deserves its Wikipedia page. If you do not agree with me, then please also delete redirections from Tier 1 and Tier 2 articles and other languages, because it became a bit messy now. Otherwise please help to improve the article. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Piotrek2234 (talk • contribs) 19:54, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Piotrek2234, no worries. To see what qualifies as notable take a look at WP:GNG, and since this is a company, also look at WP:CORPDEPTH. In a nutshell, you need in-depth coverage from several sources about the company. Not brief mentions, not directory listings, and the sources have to be independent, so nothing from the company itself, or a trade organization, which is what you currently used to cite the article.
- In general, I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:
- You may also want to take the Wikipedia Adventure, an interactive tour that will help you learn the basics of editing Wikipedia. You can visit The Teahouse to ask questions or seek help. Onel5969 TT me 20:23, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
Genozip
Dear Friend, I see you deleted my responses related to the commentator advocating the removal of Genozip due to "outing". What this person did is highly, highly unethical and in blatent violation of Wikipedia's COI policies. He is the senior engineer at the largest competitor of Genozip. I am not sure if he acted in his personal capacity or at instruction of his company, but in any event, the fact that he would go to such an extreme measure of risking his reputation with an ethical violation is itself a testiment to the notability of Genozip in the field. Please kindly advise, given the outing policy, how does one defend oneself from such predatory behavior. Thanks! Jokerman71 (talk) 23:40, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Jokerman71, what you did will get you banned from WP. As I said in my edit summaries, what you did violated WP:OUTING. To defend yourself from such behavior, a first step is to not write a blatantly COI article. And you did it twice. What they did violated NO policy. They did not !vote at the AfD, and even if they did, as long as their !vote was based on policy, would have been perfectly fine. I understand you feel affronted, and in their shoes, I would have remained silent. However what you did, by WP standards, is simply not allowed. That being said, you might ask your question, in a more neutral tone, at WP:TEAHOUSE. I would not accuse anyone of unethical behavior. But ask the question in as generic a manner as possible. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 23:58, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the explanation. I am new to this and trying to do the right thing. Jokerman71 (talk) 07:17, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Good evening, in effort to address the comments on the Talk and voting pages, I have edited the article text to qualify some of the statements. I have also added secondary sources - bringing it to a total of 6 secondary sources in a addition to 2 primary sources. The secondary sources include three review articles specifically about this software (in English, Japanese and Korean) and three academic papers about other compression tools, that benchmark against this software. Would you be able to take another look? Thanks & appreciate your time on this. Jokerman71 (talk) 10:27, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Jokerman71, hi. First, you should stop editing the article. As a COI editor, you should be requesting changes to the article on the talk page, and then uninterested editors will make the decision of whether or not to make the edits. My advice to you is to go to the AfD discussion and simply politely ping the 4 editors who have voted to delete and ask them to take another look at the article since you've added the sources. Onel5969 TT me 12:41, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. 49.178.61.199 (talk) 15:32, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Proposed Deletion of Noshery
I see you have proposed the deletion of the Noshery page. I can understand why; it's still only half an article. I'm trying to get some more properly sourced material, so I'd appreciate if you would let the article sit just a bit longer. If I can't find any good sources, I'll take it down. LewisEisen (talk) 00:00, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- LewisEisen, if you want to work on it, I can move it into draft for you, so that you can spend some time on it. Onel5969 TT me 00:02, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
That's a kind offer, thank you. I'd like to do that, but I wonder if we can hold off for a couple of days. A number of people had promised sources to me, so I've just directed them to the page so they can see what I have already. If you could move the page into draft on, say, Sunday Mar 21, that would be appreciated. Does that work for you? LewisEisen (talk) 00:10, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- LewisEisen, prods last for 7 days, so no worry. Onel5969 TT me 00:13, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- LewisEisen, unfortunately, another editor has removed the prod. So I can either send it to AfD, or draftify it for you. Onel5969 TT me 00:18, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Well, that was quick. :-( Sure, if you could put it in draft that would be great. LewisEisen (talk) 00:20, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- LewisEisen, done. Onel5969 TT me 00:23, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Seth Fedelin
Hello Onel5969! I want to edit this article but it says that it is redirected to a TV show wherein he first appeared. I just want to put the awards that he won and nominated in 2019 and in 2020, with corresponding available and valid sources. But before that, I just want to ask permission from you first before editing it. Thank you. Jayjay2020 (talk) 03:44, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- Jayjay2020, unless those awards are something like the Luna Award, it won't help his notability cause. The PMPC Star Awards for Television aren't a notable enough award to pass WP:NACTOR. Onel5969 TT me 14:24, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969, Okay, thank you! I will make a sandbox for now, to include the informations about the actor. During our conversation, I renamed my username from Jayjay2020 to NewManila2000. Another question, is Box Office Entertainment Awards, or Guillermo Mendoza Memorial Scholarship Foundation Box Office Entertainment Awards notable or not, because I searched that he won a certain category in the said award giving body. NewManila2000 (talk) 03:52, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- NewManila2000, they are notable, but they are not notable enough to confer automatic notability. In other words, if an actor meets WP:NACTOR on their own, they would be notable enough to include in their article, but winning them does not make the actor pass WP:NACTOR. Onel5969 TT me 12:36, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
About Challenger (EP)
Hi, I want to ask why you turned the article into redirect again because it fits point no.1 on WP:NALBUM and also WP:FUTUREALBUM. Plus the promotion of the single is going to start on 26th this month. [1]Yolo4A4Lo (talk) 14:47, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ "JO1、初冠番組『トレスギJO1』で「Born To Be Wild」テレビ初披露 與那城奨「今までにない僕たちの姿を」". Oricon (in Japanese). 16 March 2021. Retrieved 18 March 2021.
- Yolo4A4Lo, hi. No it doesn't. All it has is the usual promotional cruft which comes out prior to an album. As FUTUREALBUM points out, "In a few special cases, an unreleased album may qualify for an article"... this is not one of the few. Onel5969 TT me 14:27, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Devendrakula Velalar
The Indian Lok Sabha has passed a bill to group 7 castes under Devendrakula Velalar community. I hope the page will be reverted back. Pls refer to the reference below https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/lok-sabha-okays-putting-seven-castes-under-devendrakula-vellalars/article34109785.ece/amp/# Nandivarman (talk) 16:01, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Nandivarman, then that information should be included in the existing article. Onel5969 TT me 12:44, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Massive sock
Greetings Primefac, Nick, Praxidicae, and TonyBallioni, all of whom I am pinging because of the recent SPI discussion. Am starting this discussion on my talkpage rather than clogging up one of yours. Starzoner has created a massive amount of stubs over the past few months. The vast majority of them have had no significant contributions by other editors. I've probably reviewed about a thousand of them myself. Should they all be deleted?Onel5969 TT me 21:27, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'd need to really think about what the damage is from deleting versus retaining, but I'd probably lean towards deletion. Nick (talk) 21:46, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
- Am also pinging JJMC89 - who has already deleted a few of these stubs today. I'll be happy to work on it, and I don't know if there's an auto program which can differentiate those articles created by Starzoner, which have had significant contributions by others. While not many, there are some film articles, some articles on Covid and at least one Trump list which have seen major contributions from other editors. And that's just what I found in their last 3000 or so creations. Onel5969 TT me 21:55, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
Why you delete my page?
I am User:Yeeetttttboiiiii. I wonder why you deleted the page I made Survival Kit by Goodie Mob and redirected to Goodie Mob page. I hope my page can stay.
- Hi. First, please remember to always sign any messages with the 4 tildes like this: ~~~~. Second, as I said in my edit summary, it does not meet WP:NALBUM. Onel5969 TT me 12:47, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Deletion of the State of Garbage in America
Hi, I tried to add all the info about the report I could find on the internet. I don't know if it's enough to save the article from deletion, but you can take a look. KeeperOfExplosions (talk) 21:34, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Draft space articles recreated
Hello, Onel5969,
You moved some of POS78's articles to Draft space and now they are recreating them in main space. This is a new one for me so I was wondering how this is usually handled. I've deleted some of them that popped up and left a talk page message but I wanted to get your input before proceeding further since you seem to have some expertise on this subject. Liz Read! Talk! 02:49, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Liz, hi! I'm going to ping Diannaa on this, since they were aware of this issue. If you look at the discussion on their talk page, found here under List of palaces in South Korea moved to draftspace, you might understand. This editor created hundreds of list articles. While the list articles are valid, and well-structured, they failed to provide the correct attribution to the other WP articles they copied information from. The list articles remained unimproved for several weeks, even after the editor had been informed of the issues. I moved them to draft space, and let them know on their talk page as to the reason, as well as to how to go about correcting the issue. I see your post on their talk page, and I understand why you put it there. However, this editor is simply recreating pages they've already created, but this time, it appears they have learned to provide attribution, as at List of caves in Zimbabwe. I had hoped they would move the drafts to mainspace, but maybe they don't have that capability. Since they are the only editor who has any significant contributions to these articles, the most expedient thing to do would probably delete the drafts, and evaluate the new mainspace articles. Is there some issue with that approach? Onel5969 TT me 03:06, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- If they are the sole contributor that should be an okay way to manage it.— Diannaa (talk) 11:11, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
"multiple issues" flag on NGSI-LD article
Hello
I have a hard time understanding why you raised this flag about this article This article is about a technical standard, so the references it needs are the (public) official documents for the standard, which are actually given as references, These are documents from a de jure international standards organization, which are much more authoritative than regular scientific publications As you may have noticed, this article is carefully written for wikipedia, with many internal links, and is not just a copy of material published elsewhere As for notability, the standard is an official solution promoted and mandated by the European Union, intended for international use, and it is implemented in open source software . There is nothing like self-promotion or commercial advertising in there. A sample list of its uses and implementations is also provided There are not may incoming links so far, but they should come shortly, you are well aware that this visibility takes time to accrue Please explain me what I should do, we put a lot of work into this, and it is very worrying for me and the other users who contributed to get his kind of negative feedback out of the blue --Steyncham (talk) 10:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Steyncham, never said there was a promotional aspect to the article, and never said it wasn't well written. However, most of the article is unreferenced, and just because a standard exists, doesn't mean it's notable (although it probably is). That's why it got both tags but feel free to take the notability tag off if you disagree. Onel5969 TT me 13:01, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello As you will be able to see, multiple references have been added and the notability has been asserted (standard issued on request from the European Commission and promoted by it) . So I removed the issues tag which was not relevant any more--Steyncham (talk) 17:27, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Info about DEPROD
Hi, since the original "DEPRODer" did not inform you, just want to inform you that your PROD had been removed via [7] . CommanderWaterford (talk) 11:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- CommanderWaterford, thanks. Just sent to AfD, since andrewbot insists. Onel5969 TT me 12:47, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Michael Gruenbaum draft page
You were very helpful to me in the past, so I thought I'd ask your advice.
An entry I submitted on Michael Gruenbaum, which was a draft page that you helped me finish (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Michael_Gruenbaum), was just rejected. Can you advise me on how to improve it so it gets approved?
If you recall, Mr. Gruenbaum's book on his experience growing up during the Holocaust has been reviewed by the NY Times Book Review; there’s a video interview on a fox affiliate on him; and there was a recent feature article about him in this country's premier transportation engineering magazine (ITE). I don't quite understand how the editor feels these are passing mentions. How can I get across to the editor that these are important and relevant mentions?
Thanks Placscrib (talk) 15:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Just checking on this once more - not sure if you saw. Thanks --Placscrib (talk) 16:37, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Placscrib, hi. First, I'd start a dialogue with -noah-, who is a very good AfC reviewer, and has already looked at your page in-depth. The NYT piece is very good. Interviews, however, are primary sources, and as such do not count towards notability. Personally, I disagree with that policy, but it is policy. Different reviewers see things differently. I moved your article into draftspace not because I didn't think they were notable, but because I did think they were notable, just that the article needed better referencing. I could have left it in mainspace, and removed the uncited material, but that would have gutted the article. But now it's at AfC, so I'd start a discussion with -noah- Onel5969 TT me 16:53, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Ok thanks very much! --Placscrib (talk) 16:56, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Targeting certain editors by Wikipedian Admins!
Sir, this is a really serious issue. There are some Wikipedian admins who keep targeting certain editors! I had already quoted so many references for the my WP:BLP article on the subject Priyanka Choudhary to meet it all the requirements for WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG, but I really don't understand why is Ravensfire again and again adding the [notability] template. It kind of feels silly, because there seems to be similar articles like Priyal Mahajan and Debattama Saha which have half the amount of SOURCES that I quote for my WP:BLP articles, plus these subjects Priyal Mahajan and Debattama Saha don't even fulfill WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG as much as the subject Priyanka Choudhary does! However, they do not contain any TEMPLATES. Is it that the WIKIPEDIAN ADMINS target only some EDITORS?
- Because two days back in the same way Drmies (again a Wikipedia administrator) and Schazjmd had together sided up into a edit war on a SINGLE SENTENCE of an article Udaariyaan started by Fizconiz.
- I had already informed Cyphoidbomb regarding the edit wars and disruptive editing cause by Fizconiz but it's shameful that the Wikipedia Admin did not take any actions. Now, I can see that these ADMINISTARTORS are very craftily using their POWER by TARGETING MY EDITS AND MY ARTICLES. It's really very shameful to see such DIRTY POLICTICS played by Wikipedia Adminstrators using their power.
- I humbly request you please do something about it!--Aleyamma38 (talk) 17:53, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- One lead role does not tip the scale for WP:NACTOR, and looking at the first six references cited, most look like press release fare and seem to include the subject's opinions/comments, meaning that these are potentially unsuitable for satisfying the "independent" aspect of the General Notability Guideline. So Ravensfire likely has good reason to tag that article for notability concerns. Your assertion that administrators are targeting you in particular, is unfounded, but even if it was founded, it is likely that your editing style, and questionable choices you have made, are going to attract more attention. So when you choose to pick fights with people about certain phrasing, for instance arguing erroneously that "inspired from" is more correct than "inspired by", you should expect for people to look into what other edits you might have made that could have been problematic. Note also that the articles you've created are not yours. They belong to Wikipedia. See: WP:OWN. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:25, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- The admins that you are accusing of "teaming up" and "targetting" lack validity. But if you are choosing your talk page as evidence to support your claims of targetting, siding with one another, which I'm assuming you are, that's poorly chosen. This isn't some sort of competition of what edits are meant to stay that you're trying to make it seem. Once an edit is reverted, chances are there are considerable reasons for it. Once that happens, you're supposed to think why. Basic edits like where you refuse to accept the addition of one word that is grammatically correct, you're going to find yourself reaching consensus by yourself. So, that doesn't mean other contributors are trying to prove themselves right by establishing their own rules. I'm also confused as to where your of labelling me as starting an edit war arises from. Maybe this revision history? I mean, the contribution history speaks for itself of who is practising ownership of content. These aren't wicked admins that need to be penalised, just because your extremely unintelligible edit summaries aren't being followed. So the absurd phrases you are choosing like "crafting their own power" by their advantages are largely irrelevant because no one here has magic wands that embed their own rules by declaring certain spells. I hope you comprehend and don't push this small situation further to an actual serious situation. Regards, Fizconiz (talk) 20:11, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- Take an afternoon off for some real world business, and see what you can get yourself into? First, I'm honored (tongue thoroughly in cheek) that you think I could do something about this situation. Second, while some WP editors (not just admins) do engage in WP:WIKIHOUNDING (I've occasionally been the target myself), that does not appear to be the instance here. Especially the two admins you mention, Drmies and Cyphoidbomb, who are outstanding admins. As Cyphoidbomb pointed out, if any editor comes across what they feel is a pattern of suspicious editing, they have every right to start looking into other edits by that editor. For example, there is another editor who has an issue with attribution when copying from other WP articles. I'm trying to help them understand why the WP policy on attribution is important, and what they need to do to adhere to it. Doesn't mean I'm hounding them. Ravensfire is a very experienced editor, whose comments on their talk page regarding this I think were handled quite civilly and well. Certainly better than I would have handled them if they were directed at me (civility is a big issue with me). They bring up reasonable concerns regarding notability about this actor. Please take a breath and understand that it does not appear that folks are targeting you. I would personally leave the notability tag alone until either an uninvolved editor removes it, or Ravensfire is satisfied enough to remove it themselves. Another very experienced reviewer, Celestina007 has already reviewed your article and passed it, so I think this is much ado about very little. I will echo what has been said to you several times, please stop with the yelling, that only weakens any argument you make.Onel5969 TT me 22:45, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- The admins that you are accusing of "teaming up" and "targetting" lack validity. But if you are choosing your talk page as evidence to support your claims of targetting, siding with one another, which I'm assuming you are, that's poorly chosen. This isn't some sort of competition of what edits are meant to stay that you're trying to make it seem. Once an edit is reverted, chances are there are considerable reasons for it. Once that happens, you're supposed to think why. Basic edits like where you refuse to accept the addition of one word that is grammatically correct, you're going to find yourself reaching consensus by yourself. So, that doesn't mean other contributors are trying to prove themselves right by establishing their own rules. I'm also confused as to where your of labelling me as starting an edit war arises from. Maybe this revision history? I mean, the contribution history speaks for itself of who is practising ownership of content. These aren't wicked admins that need to be penalised, just because your extremely unintelligible edit summaries aren't being followed. So the absurd phrases you are choosing like "crafting their own power" by their advantages are largely irrelevant because no one here has magic wands that embed their own rules by declaring certain spells. I hope you comprehend and don't push this small situation further to an actual serious situation. Regards, Fizconiz (talk) 20:11, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- One lead role does not tip the scale for WP:NACTOR, and looking at the first six references cited, most look like press release fare and seem to include the subject's opinions/comments, meaning that these are potentially unsuitable for satisfying the "independent" aspect of the General Notability Guideline. So Ravensfire likely has good reason to tag that article for notability concerns. Your assertion that administrators are targeting you in particular, is unfounded, but even if it was founded, it is likely that your editing style, and questionable choices you have made, are going to attract more attention. So when you choose to pick fights with people about certain phrasing, for instance arguing erroneously that "inspired from" is more correct than "inspired by", you should expect for people to look into what other edits you might have made that could have been problematic. Note also that the articles you've created are not yours. They belong to Wikipedia. See: WP:OWN. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:25, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- I humbly request you please do something about it!--Aleyamma38 (talk) 17:53, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- I had already informed Cyphoidbomb regarding the edit wars and disruptive editing cause by Fizconiz but it's shameful that the Wikipedia Admin did not take any actions. Now, I can see that these ADMINISTARTORS are very craftily using their POWER by TARGETING MY EDITS AND MY ARTICLES. It's really very shameful to see such DIRTY POLICTICS played by Wikipedia Adminstrators using their power.
- Because two days back in the same way Drmies (again a Wikipedia administrator) and Schazjmd had together sided up into a edit war on a SINGLE SENTENCE of an article Udaariyaan started by Fizconiz.
Muso Kunda Museum of Women
Hello,
I noticed you have removed content from the page Muso Kunda Museum of Women, Mali, citing no references for those sections/paras. I have since restored the article's content and also added many references. I missed adding these, though these were researched in detail, as I got caught up with "work pressure" in the real world!
If you find my improvements meet your peer review of reference adequacy, please consider removing the template "Need additional citations". Malian news sources are also limited given the instability. Thanks for dropping by the article! Best Arunram (talk) 14:06, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- Arunram, hi. No, it looks fine. My only issue was the sourcing, which you've now provided. Onel5969 TT me 14:47, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
ANI courtesy notification
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Aleyamma38. Thank you. Ravensfire (talk) 14:40, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Andrew Rynne
Hello. Regarding your revert on Andrew Rynne: He is the founder of Clane General Hospital, Chairman of Irish Family Planning Association, has that shooting publicity, etc. How come the topic is not notable? I just do not understand your actions. No hard feelings, but I want to understand it. Thank you and cheers. Hodxa (talk) 16:39, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Regarding Sparky0723, and their recent article creations
I noticed that you recently notified Sparky0723 of a copyright violation on Pachinko (TV series), which is why I'm writing you this message (if this is the wrong place, please let me know). He recently created Invasion (upcoming TV series), which contains copied text from this Deadline source (specifically the cast and premise). I don't think his "-Deadline" addition at the end of the premise is sufficient, but I figured you would know. Secondarily, he also seems to be stepping on others toes, by creating new articles in the main article space, when a draft of the same article already exists. I'm referring to WeCrashed, which I have heavily edited to cleanup and incorporate the changes that were in Draft:WeCrashed, which has been around for months. Like I said, if this is the wrong place to start this conversation, let me know, but I'm hoping that some action can be taken to address these two issues. Thanks for your help :) Rmaloney3 (talk) 17:13, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- Rmaloney3, hi. Thanks for the head's up. I've removed the portion which violates copyright from the Invasion article and requested a revdel. I've also left a note on that editor's talk page regarding copyright violation. WP takes copyvios very seriously. If they continue to do it, they will get blocked, but I'm not sure when this should be ratcheted up, so am pinging Diannaa to get their input. Onel5969 TT me 17:32, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Regarding your page review
You reviewed an article on Living prime ministers of India, kindly let me know how can I improve the article, and what are the changes required. Also, how does an article receive ratings on Quality and Importance scale, as that article has no ratings. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 14:04, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
ping to Onel5969
The Devil Is a Part-Timer! (season 1)
You didn't even check the talk page for that one. That page was copied from List of The Devil Is a Part-Timer! episodes and split into a new page. SpectresWrath (talk) 22:16, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Speedy deletion nomination of Malolos Congress (disambiguation)
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Draft of KG0516
Hi Onel. Not sure why you drafted KG0516 for unpaid editing, as there was nothing to suggest User:SelenaGomezRevelacion, blocked for a violation of the username policy, was ever doing paid editing. That's just how some fan accounts name themselves—after their current favourite album or artist—because they're unaware of our username policy. I assume that's who you're referring to, as the other editors who've edited the topic have either been around or are new, unblocked editors. I've restored the article as it's notable and guaranteed to get at least a couple reviews and chart positions soon. Ss112 15:18, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ss112, hi. You do realize that they've been blocked for paid editing? Onel5969 TT me 15:23, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Per the report at the very bottom here here, which the blocking admin Alexf acted upon, Eostrix reported SelenaGomezRevelacion for "Violation of the username policy as a misleading username. Revelación is a recent Spanish EP by Selena Gomez. User is editing pages of a different Spanish language singer." That's not an accusation of paid editing, that's a concern about the user naming themselves after a singer's album as if they represent said music release when they don't. Gomez's EP has nothing to do with Karol G's album and I don't know what anyone would really think they have in common other than....both being in Spanish, and...perhaps having a tenuous connection about both being released on Universal Music-owned labels? (Which constitutes half the music industry anyway.) If that user was trying to imply some connection because the username and the article they created are both Spanish-language releases, that's a bit of a reach. As I said, it's common for editors here to name themselves after something recent by one of their favourite singers because they think it's fine. Regardless of the template Alexf used when they blocked said editor, that doesn't equal paid editing. It wouldn't be the first time concerns raised at UAA were conflated with other reasons. Therefore I don't see why it needed to be drafted because there's really no large connection between Gomez and Karol G. Ss112 03:33, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ss112, and as I said, you do understand that they were blocked for paid editing. Onel5969 TT me 03:39, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- No, I don't understand that, because there's no proof of paid editing, and Alexf can't prove there was, even if they used said template to tell the user they were blocked. "[T]he account has been used for advertising or promotion" does not equal "you were paid to create a page", let alone "paid to create a page on an album that isn't even what you named your account after, which is the actual reason you were reported and thus blocked". You might understand this had you clicked on the link I just provided you with, which shows how the admin came upon the user—they didn't learn anything new before blocking them. Bottom line is you should not have drafted the page, because I know full well there are plenty of articles on Wikipedia that were created by actual users paid to edit that were never drafted. Ss112 08:47, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ss112, and as I said, you do understand that they were blocked for paid editing. Onel5969 TT me 03:39, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Per the report at the very bottom here here, which the blocking admin Alexf acted upon, Eostrix reported SelenaGomezRevelacion for "Violation of the username policy as a misleading username. Revelación is a recent Spanish EP by Selena Gomez. User is editing pages of a different Spanish language singer." That's not an accusation of paid editing, that's a concern about the user naming themselves after a singer's album as if they represent said music release when they don't. Gomez's EP has nothing to do with Karol G's album and I don't know what anyone would really think they have in common other than....both being in Spanish, and...perhaps having a tenuous connection about both being released on Universal Music-owned labels? (Which constitutes half the music industry anyway.) If that user was trying to imply some connection because the username and the article they created are both Spanish-language releases, that's a bit of a reach. As I said, it's common for editors here to name themselves after something recent by one of their favourite singers because they think it's fine. Regardless of the template Alexf used when they blocked said editor, that doesn't equal paid editing. It wouldn't be the first time concerns raised at UAA were conflated with other reasons. Therefore I don't see why it needed to be drafted because there's really no large connection between Gomez and Karol G. Ss112 03:33, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
D3 Publisher otome games
Hello! I understand there were concerns about notability for many of these games, but is there no way we can preserve the data (perhaps in a 'D3 Publisher Otome Games' article - D3 actually does have a separate division for them) for the ones that weren't kept as articles? Mermaid Prism in particular had a decent amount of content available (including not only famous voice actors and a magazine cover, but also a collaboration with a notable band) compared to some of the ones that were kept (all sourced to reliable gaming magazines), so I'm not sure I understand the pattern. I know some other editors who could not read Japanese were accusing me of citing to fan blogs, but this is not the case. Dengeki Online, Famitsu, 4gamer, and B's Log are all professional magazines. I think the information on these lesser known games may be useful, even if only as a table in the D3 main article. Londonbeat41692 (talk) 03:49, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Londonbeat41692, I think the best way to go is to create a List of D3 Publisher Games, and then have a section of it on the Otome Games, similar to the formatting on the D3 page. Then you could have brief blurbs about each game, and they wouldn't individually have to meet the notability criteria. Onel5969 TT me 15:38, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, I will add that project to my backlog. What would you say the Mermaid Prism article in particular was lacking, though? Another editor had removed the famous voice actors' credits from the page previously even though they were cited. I could understand removing, say, Signal. Londonbeat41692 (talk) 02:22, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- Londonbeat41692, hi again. Looking over your stubs, I think there is a potentially very good list article there. Regarding "Mermaid Prism" in particular, there are 7 sources, of which I can access 6. The first 2 are simple listings, with the second also being a primary source. The third is a blog, and therefore not reliable. The fourth is another primary source. The fifth is the one I can't access, but B's-LOG appears to be little better than a blog, without editorial oversight, therefore it wouldn't be considered reliable. The sixth is a simple listing, and the seventh is a press release. While primary sources can be used, they do nothing to establish notability. So, when you build the list article, the primary sources will be fine, as the list will almost certainly pass WP:NLIST. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 14:04, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- Londonbeat41692, hi again. In doing my NPP reviews this morning, I came across several more, which I redirected to the DS article section on Otome, but there was one, Signal (video game), which did pass notability criteria. In that one, there are two in-depth reviews from two different reliable sources, which is the bare minimum to pass WP:GNG (I'd like to see at least 2 more reviews, but that's me). I wanted to point this out to you, so you can see the difference. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 14:17, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hello! Thank you for answering me. B's-Log is actually a professional magazine, run by Kadokawa (a major publishing house) - the same parent company as Famitsu. It is not a fan blog. https://kadokawagamelinkage.jp// Hence, I am very surprised that being its cover story for the print edition (in addition to all of the well-known actors involved along with the band collaboration) is not considered proof of notability. I never intended for primary sources to be considered proof of notability. Londonbeat41692 (talk) 05:11, 29 March 2021 (UTC) Update: I just found this section, titled "notices from the editorial department", so there in fact is one for B's Log. https://www.bs-log.com/category/info/ Londonbeat41692 (talk) 05:14, 29 March 2021 (UTC) Also, I just checked and Kurayami no Hate de Kimi wo Matsu had two reviews from professional sources along with a news link re: sales record. Londonbeat41692 (talk) 05:29, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hello again, sorry to leave so many messages, but I am still curious what was deemed wrong with the article for the last game I mentioned when it seems to fit your criteria. Also, why is it that the articles I created are under scrutiny to the point that false assumptions are being made and acted on about the sources I am using, yet Houkago no Love Beat from the same publisher and which has had numerous contributors does not have a single source and reads like a user review of the game, but still stands? Granted, I am not suggesting it should be removed - I'm sure I could find sources to improve it with given the time, but it's not a good article right now. Londonbeat41692 (talk) 01:45, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- Londonbeat41692, hi. First, if you want other editors to look at something, please provide links. Second, not sure what you're referring to when you say " I am still curious what was deemed wrong with the article for the last game I mentioned". Third, B's Log does not appear to be a reliable source. It's run by the person who mainly writes the reviews, or at least wrote the review in the article you created. Regarding Houkago, please see WP:OSE. Your articles are under scrutiny because they are coming up in the queue at New Page Patrolers (NPP). There's a slight backlog, and I'm just getting to articles which were created about 3 weeks ago. You just happened to create a lot of these articles within several days of one another. Onel5969 TT me 02:03, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. I was referring to Kurayami no Hate de Kimi wo Matsu. Your claims about B's Log are simply untrue. It is a subsidiary of Kadokawa and has an editorial department, as I showed you via links. The magazine feature didn't actually cite a review as I do not have the issue itself to cite its content beyond that I can verify it exists and that Mermaid Prism is the cover story/bonus items were included. Could you be confusing it with the PSMK2 review I had included, which is indeed questionable (not a blog but a review database that doesn't appear to be run by a company)? If B's Log is unreliable, then so is Famitsu. I will work the content into a list at any rate, but I do not understand your problem with this magazine. Londonbeat41692 (talk) 02:11, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- Londonbeat41692, hi. First, if you want other editors to look at something, please provide links. Second, not sure what you're referring to when you say " I am still curious what was deemed wrong with the article for the last game I mentioned". Third, B's Log does not appear to be a reliable source. It's run by the person who mainly writes the reviews, or at least wrote the review in the article you created. Regarding Houkago, please see WP:OSE. Your articles are under scrutiny because they are coming up in the queue at New Page Patrolers (NPP). There's a slight backlog, and I'm just getting to articles which were created about 3 weeks ago. You just happened to create a lot of these articles within several days of one another. Onel5969 TT me 02:03, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- Londonbeat41692, hi again. In doing my NPP reviews this morning, I came across several more, which I redirected to the DS article section on Otome, but there was one, Signal (video game), which did pass notability criteria. In that one, there are two in-depth reviews from two different reliable sources, which is the bare minimum to pass WP:GNG (I'd like to see at least 2 more reviews, but that's me). I wanted to point this out to you, so you can see the difference. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 14:17, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- Londonbeat41692, hi again. Looking over your stubs, I think there is a potentially very good list article there. Regarding "Mermaid Prism" in particular, there are 7 sources, of which I can access 6. The first 2 are simple listings, with the second also being a primary source. The third is a blog, and therefore not reliable. The fourth is another primary source. The fifth is the one I can't access, but B's-LOG appears to be little better than a blog, without editorial oversight, therefore it wouldn't be considered reliable. The sixth is a simple listing, and the seventh is a press release. While primary sources can be used, they do nothing to establish notability. So, when you build the list article, the primary sources will be fine, as the list will almost certainly pass WP:NLIST. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 14:04, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you, I will add that project to my backlog. What would you say the Mermaid Prism article in particular was lacking, though? Another editor had removed the famous voice actors' credits from the page previously even though they were cited. I could understand removing, say, Signal. Londonbeat41692 (talk) 02:22, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Ron Polte
I saw your template on the article I recently created. I'm immensely busy, but took the time to start the article which has far more material and references than the typical long-standing stub article which I run across almost daily. So to accommodate your concerns, I started looking for material on Polte that might satisfy them. I went to JSTOR as you advised and found half a dozen references to Polte, in particular to one episode which is extremely interesting. Polte did a huge amount of work in a brief period in 1969 to put on a free Rock festival in San Francisco's Golden Gate Park, along with half a dozen other luminaries of the Rock, music and broadcast scene in the Bay Area at that time. Although an extraordinary number of commitments were gathered from top musicians, the festival was well organized, and money was raised to pay for the logistics, neighborhood complaints about speculative transitory inconveniences caused the plans to be abandoned. Instead, the proposed concert was moved to the Altamont Raceway between Santa Rita and Altamont Pass. The last-minute, haphazard arrangements, a product of Bill Graham's frustration, led to a spectacular disaster which has been memorialized in film, in particular, Gimme Shelter and one which could have been easily avoided but for the City government's insular, tone-deaf responsiveness to the "Get Off My Lawn!" types in the Sunset District. Important musicians, writers, and critics regarding the culture of the era, such as Jon Hammond (who has no article) and Ben Fong-Torres, noted Polte's role. Now the problem is that your judgment and mine are subjective, of course, and I don't know what would satisfy yours. I've wondered about a lot of absolute crap on Wikipedia, in particular, some years ago articles for every individual who contributed the inept reading of one or two lines/voice parts in extremely obscure Japanese anime films. I suspect that the producer might have drafted his next-door neighbor to contribute the reading of those lines by offering him or her a bowl of sushi in return for making a two-minute recording.
Now Polte was an important person in an important historic and cultural time.
By way of reference, I happened to see the Ken Burns 9th episode of his Jazz series in the wee hours today. The commentary mentioned Joe Glaser on occasions, as he was Louis Armstrong's and Billie Holiday's manager. So I went to the article about Joe, for some comparison. He was a major influence on music, both live and recorded, for decades, but the article doesn't remotely give him due credit for what he did. I also looked up another famous manager, Al Grossman, and didn't find an article. I tried Albert Grossman and found an extensive article, but there's no redirection to it in Wikipedia, so the reader might assume there's no article, though Al was mostly known by the hypocorism by those in the music business. My curiosity piqued, I looked up "Izzy" on Wikipedia, as journalist I.F. Stone, was known. No luck there. The prestigious "Izzy Awards" are named for him, bestowed annually by the Park Center for Independent Media at Ithaca College. Searching for "Izzy" on Wikipedia didn't include the given name "Isidor." I'll fix that.
As a result of the unexpected time I took to respond to your tagging before I'd written this note, I've managed to miss an appointment this afternoon, though it will probably work out okay. (Here's hoping.)
Here's a potential solution to what I feel is a problem. If you think a newish article is not of a "notable" subject, how about just writing to the article's creator instead of tagging it? That way the creator can be more responsive, and not realize his or her article has been deleted until some time after the fact. Even a watchlist might not be helpful, because I can't be the only Wikipedia editor who doesn't look at their watch list every day and I have hundreds of articles watchlisted so such notification is easily missed.
"IMHO" it says here.
Would that work for you? Activist (talk) 00:26, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- Activist, hi. I get the feeling this person is notable, but I'm not seeing it currently in the sourcing. I'll let another NPP reviewer take a swing at it though. Onel5969 TT me 03:02, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- I just added considerably the article when I should have been taking care of a health problem and getting to some work I needed to do. It wasn't a smart thing for me to do, and I'll pay the price. However, I can't imagine that you'll have a problem with it now. Activist (talk) 14:55, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- Activist, sorry to hear about your health issues. This has been a rough year for many of us. Hope you are doing better. Onel5969 TT me 15:00, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for your thoughts. I actually knew, without being terribly familiar with the particulars, what happened in 1969. It was very educational for me to track down those ancient references and articles, despite paywalls abounding. Take a look at the article now, if you have the time. One thing I need to touch up about Polte is that he was always concerned about the music, the musicians, the community, and only last about the money. He resigned from the Music Council after the Fest was shut down. It had been my intent to get to that, without being rushed, but I'm glad I did do it, despite the inconvenience and drawbacks. The guy needs some affirmation for his decency, even five years after his death. Feel free to erase all this. Activist (talk) 04:05, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Activist, sorry to hear about your health issues. This has been a rough year for many of us. Hope you are doing better. Onel5969 TT me 15:00, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- I just added considerably the article when I should have been taking care of a health problem and getting to some work I needed to do. It wasn't a smart thing for me to do, and I'll pay the price. However, I can't imagine that you'll have a problem with it now. Activist (talk) 14:55, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Anti-feminist bias
Hi @Onel5969 I am having huge doubts over your move of Ewa Majewska EN page. There is enough of visibility in European cultural field and academia. It feels like it is anti-feminist bias on your isde as she is both prominent as an author (publishing with Verso!), cultural and political activist...
I just saw you recently decided to leave the Thai architectureal page that has a single touristic page link as a reference, so obviously your criteria depends much more on the content than actual care for references.
I would prefer that you do not move the page unless you have very specific arguments about what is exactly the problem and please use discussion pages for that, so it does not look like conservative supression on feminists in Wikipedia - this is the Gender Gap period after all ;-)
Best wishes and have a lovely Sunday ! -- Zblace (talk) 15:45, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- Zblace, sorry, but you need to back off your pulpit. And you also need to learn more about notability requirements, as well as not making unfounded accusations. The site article is clearly notable, but simply needs more sources. The article you mention was declined at AfC, and then moved into the mainspace without any further necessary corrections made. Instead of wasting other editors' time, make the corrections. And if you wish to make stupid and idiotic accusations, stay off my talk page. Onel5969 TT me 15:51, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Church of the Pilgrim Virgin moved to draftspace
Hello, thank you for your message. I made a translation of the article that's why I didn't include references as they were not in the original articles (French, Spanish). I have already added to the article multiple references from Spanish newspapers, as well as bibliography of 4 books and the pages where the information can be found. Best regards! --MJSB73MP (talk) 18:41, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- MJSB73MP, nice job! Thanks for fixing the issues. Back in mainspace. Onel5969 TT me 19:07, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Christine Nelson
Hi, I understand that Christine Nelson was blanked for a couple of reasons. I feel it would make more sense if you just added a "sources needed" template to the "Reception" section instead of just blanking the whole thing...I was actually going to add more and change up the Reception section before it was removed. I mean, Joey Jeremiah and Caitlin Ryan somehow get away with very little sources, despite basically being the same "biography of character, actor won/was nominated for awards" format. I made an effort to back up the notability of Christine Nelson. ToQ100gou (talk) 23:55, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Melvin Prohl
Melvin Prohl's notability is based on his recognized accomplishments and contributions over 43 years of professional activity. First recognized as one of the original MIT students to work in the cooperative program with General Electric Company, he had a sustained publication record from 1945 to 1977 which is more usually a trait of a career in academia than industry.
His notability was also recognized in 1999 when he was awarded the N. O. Myklestad Award by ASME, The American Society of Mechanical Engineers. Founded in the United States in 1880, ASME is now an international organization with more than 110,000 members in 150 countries world wide. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Society_of_Mechanical_Engineers. Established in 1991, N. O. Myklestad Award is given approximately every two years in recognition of a major innovative contribution to vibration engineering. (https://www.asme.org/about-asme/honors-awards/unit-awards/no-myklestad-award). Only thirteen other professionals have received this award. Kllwiki (talk) 18:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Scientists for Labour
Hello I would like to ask why you thought that the sources for the Scientists for Labour page were untrustworthy. The sources for the foundation are reputable newspapers, and the links to the work the society has done are to those specific works. In addition, this is a socialist society of the Labour whose size is greater than that of many other socialist societies that have independent wikipedia pages (eg Socialist Environment and Resources Association), so I am unsure why those societies should have their own pages but SfL should just be a re-direct to the page on socialist societies. - Daniel.villar7 15:33 BST
- Hi Daniel.villar7 - There is not a single in-depth source about the organization in the article. There is three independent sources, but two are from YouTube, which is unreliable. The third is not about the organization, but it's founder. All the rest are primary sources. The obit is the only source from a newspaper, so not sure what you're talking about. Onel5969 TT me 14:47, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- The two sources from youtube are of the individuals (Keir Starmer and Gardon Brown) thanking Scientists for Labour, and the videos show them thanking the organisation for its work. The main source of information about the organisation is admittedly the organisation's own webiste, but that is the same for many other socialist societies that have wikipedia pages. For instance, the only sources for the Labour Party Irish Society come from the organisation's own website or LabourList, all save one source for the Socialist Educational Association comes from its own website, and the only link to anything on National Union of Labour and Socialist Clubs is the organisation's webiste. This is not an argument for deleting those pages, but to say that it seems that SfL is being held to a higher standard than other socialist societies. If you would like I can link to times when the organisation's work has been referenced in newspapers and other Labour Party organs, but I do not see why that would make it more reliable than stating what it has done and linking to the organisation's own webiste. Additionally for some of the information, such as the name of the chair and of the patrons, I think it would be apropriate to link to the organisation's own page. - Daniel.villar7 16:00 BST
Quantum Psychology
Hi! I do not know if I left this on your page previously and I am missing it or what happened exactly, but I was wondering why exactly the Quantum Psychology page edit that I did was reversed by you? Is there something wrong with the content itself or what was the reason other than it had previously been deleted? BlacklilyofKoN (talk) 02:18, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- BlacklilyofKoN, hi. It had been deleted as the result of a deletion discussion, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Quantum psychology. Your draft, while listing sources, had no footnotes, and the sourcing provided did not have enough information included to pass WP:VERIFY. Onel5969 TT me 02:24, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
"Glizzy" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Glizzy. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 31#Glizzy until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 18:50, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Draft:Pirates! Gold
It appears that there has been disagreement about whether to accept this draft. I see that the title Pirates! Gold is a redirect, and that it was previously an article, and has been cut down to a redirect. Another reviewer had tagged the redirect as G6 to accept the draft, but I removed the G6 and declined the draft. I don't have an opinion on whether the draft should be accepted, but the acceptance isn't non-contentious, so G6 isn't appropriate, and I will defer to other reviewers on the merge or split issue. Is there discussion underway? Robert McClenon (talk) 06:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Robert McClenon, thanks for the ping. Will put my .02 at the discussion. Onel5969 TT me 12:06, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Time's Arrow and Archimedes' Point
Hi! Thanks for taking the time to review the article Time's Arrow and Archimedes' Point. I disagree with your removal of the chapter summaries. The book covers many different subjects, and makes several different arguments, any one of which may be relevant when the book is referenced elsewhere (sometimes it is cited for its chapter on cosmology, other times it is cited for its defence of retrocausality, etc.). This is fairly common for academic philosophy books, as they often make several thematically related, but distinct arguments. As these arguments are often long and subtle, a different chapter is devoted to each one. As a result, a chapter-by-chapter summary is far more useful than a single paragraph overview. I understand that in the case of some books (like, say, Harry Potter), a chapter-by-chapter summary would be overkill, but I hope I have explained why it is necessary for this book (and a lot of academic philosophy books in general). Other wikipedia articles on academic philsophy follow this pattern as well (see eg. here, here or here for the first three books that came into my head) so clearly other wiki editors agree with me. I'll probably restore the chapter summaries for the reasons stated above unless I hear a convincing reason from you why I shouldn't. (ps. dismissing it as 'blather' as you did in your edit comment isn't very productive or convincing :) ). All the best, Alfredsph (talk) 15:14, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Alfredsph, first, sorry about the use of blather. Hadn't had my first cup of coffee, and was stuck for what word to use, but you are correct, it shouldn't have been that one. Second, I disagree about the blow-by-blow (which is the term I should have used, but couldn't think of) chapter analysis. I think that would fall under WP:NOTTEXTBOOK. I know that the reviewer who initially did not accept your article ReaderofthePack, also had an issue with the chapter breakdown, although I don't know if it was for the same reason as mine. Again, apologies for the poor word choice selection on my part. Onel5969 TT me 23:55, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi Onel5969, Thanks for responding to my message. No problem about the use of 'blather'- all is forgiven! Yes, it is true that ReaderofthePack had an issue with the chapter breakdown, but I still don't understand what the problem is. I've now had a chance to read WP:NOTTEXTBOOK and there is nothing in those guidelines which advises against chapter-by-chapter breakdowns of non-fiction books. WP:NOTTEXTBOOK states that Wikipedia should present facts and articles should not be written in the style of a pedagogical texts, with leading questions and problems with solutions. Nothing in my original article went against any of this and there is nothing in WP:NOTTEXTBOOK which supports removing chapter summaries. Finally, I can point to many Wikipedia articles on non-fiction books in the sciences and philosophy which have been given 'good article' status under WP:GOOD and contain chapter-by-chapter summaries. For example: Bad Pharma, Endless Forms Most Beautiful (book), Feathers: The Evolution of a Natural Miracle, On Growth and Form, Power: A New Social Analysis. I realize that, on its own, WP:OSE is not a strong argument, but the fact that other editors have given these articles 'good article' status, without removing the chapter-by-chapter summaries is a good indication that there is nothing wrong with this kind of summary. This fact, combined with the fact that the guidelines in WP:NOTTEXTBOOK do not have anything forbidding chapter summaries seems to me like a pretty strong reason for the summaries to be included in the article. Do you agree? All the best, Alfredsph (talk) 09:52, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Your revert
I'm afraid I don't understand your revert on Demon City Shinjuku Role-Playing Game. The article draft you reverted links to an RS magazine review and an RS book mention. How is this not a presumptive NBOOK pass? I am somewhat at a loss, here. Newimpartial (talk) 15:33, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Edits on Singapore radio stations
Hi there, I noticed that you reverted the edits. It's unjustified because if that's reverted, we also have to review other media articles by Mediacorp and SAFRA Radio, and so on all media channels given the reasoning that you and another editor provided. Are we saying all TV, radio and other media channels are invalid to have an article? If this is not resolved, I will bring this up to arbitration. TheGreatSG'rean (talk) 17:12, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- TheGreatSG'rean, bring it up at arbitration. You'll get laughed at, not only because it's a spurious attack, but also because that's the wrong venue. I suggest you familiarize yourself with WP:GNG and WP:VERIFY. Most of which the articles you undid the revert at do not meet. WP:OSE is a very weak argument. Justlettersandnumbers was absolutely correct in their assessment. If you feel the stations pass WP:GNG, or WP:BCAST, simply add the necessary sourcing, and then there won't be an issue. Onel5969 TT me 17:20, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Why not you check the articles on other media companies (ie Mediacorp and SAFRA Radio) in Singapore, then you tell me if that meets the standards you just stated? You and Justlettersandnumbers just think that by deleting 1 segment, it's ok. I have also asked other contributors to fix the issues. TheGreatSG'rean (talk) 17:25, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- TheGreatSG'rean, because that's irrelavent. As I said, if you're so interested in the articles, fix them so they meet notability criteria, and stop asking others to do the work. Onel5969 TT me 17:29, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- I'm afraid there's no point continuing the conversation since you think you're mighty and right, and you refuse to address the other queries (you branded them as "irrelevant"). TheGreatSG'rean (talk) 17:31, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- TheGreatSG'rean, we do agree, the conversation has no point, but it's because you're lazy, wanting other folks do the work for you, and don't want to understand WP notability guidelines. Don't post on my talk page again. Onel5969 TT me 17:34, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- One more thing. I'm not saying I'm not gonna fix it. And please don't make any assumptions. TheGreatSG'rean (talk) 17:36, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- TheGreatSG'rean, we do agree, the conversation has no point, but it's because you're lazy, wanting other folks do the work for you, and don't want to understand WP notability guidelines. Don't post on my talk page again. Onel5969 TT me 17:34, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- I'm afraid there's no point continuing the conversation since you think you're mighty and right, and you refuse to address the other queries (you branded them as "irrelevant"). TheGreatSG'rean (talk) 17:31, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- TheGreatSG'rean, because that's irrelavent. As I said, if you're so interested in the articles, fix them so they meet notability criteria, and stop asking others to do the work. Onel5969 TT me 17:29, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Why not you check the articles on other media companies (ie Mediacorp and SAFRA Radio) in Singapore, then you tell me if that meets the standards you just stated? You and Justlettersandnumbers just think that by deleting 1 segment, it's ok. I have also asked other contributors to fix the issues. TheGreatSG'rean (talk) 17:25, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi, Onel5969, TheGreatSG'rean, thanks for the ping! I really don't care how we move forward on those articles – I redirected them because (as I said at the time) there was no indication that any one of the things was notable independently of the notability of the parent company (which I didn't investigate). If someone wants to undo those redirects it's OK with me; if they are promptly provided with a good number of solid independent reliable sources that adequately support the content and convincingly demonstrate that each of them meets WP:NCORP then that's great, a win for the project. If that doesn't happen I'll AfD them; I'm reasonably confident that the outcome of the discussions will in each case be "redirect", which will bring us back to where we are now, after wasting a good deal of editor time and goodwill that might have been better expended elsewhere. However it goes, can I just ask that we all keep any discussion collaborative and friendly? – everyone has the same intention to improve the encyclopaedia, let's try to work amicably together to achieve that. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 19:38, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Re: Savannah Historic District (Savannah, Georgia)
Hi there. Thanks for your message.
I've actually started creating articles on the city's 22 squares (see Greene Square, Savannah, created today), which will include these properties. I've only created articles on the buildings that are part of the eight relevant blocks that were originally formed around each square by the Oglethorpe Plan, but I'm also creating articles on other notable buildings around the city. - Seasider53 (talk) 20:09, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Seasider53, and I've reviewed several of those articles, which are very well done. It's just that these stubs don't meet notability criteria, and I'd hate to see all your hard work go to waste, and it would really improve the historic district article. In fact, you might want to work on that and see if you could get it up to GA status, since you have such an interest in Savanah history. Onel5969 TT me 20:11, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Can you help me please?
Hi! I created the article AJ “El Kallejero” Ramos about a media personality and one of the most relevant Latin music executive and interviewer, featured on MLB, Forbes, Bloomberg and listed as a 2020 Billboard Latin Power Player, a billboard program that highlights the executives behind Latin music’s explosive move into the pop music mainstream. All the information on this article has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. It has been tag for speedy deletion because a user thinks it might be promotional or to publicise a person, I edited the article and sent a message to the user that tagged it, asking him about what else can I change or were exactly did he see the promotional material so I can it, or maybe another user can change it and I have not gotten a response. I write to you for help because the article was reviewed by you and I think you might want to know.
Thank you --Dominicansinhistory (talk) 20:24, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Italic title
Hello. How can I to change the title name to italic? I want change Ormosia amazonica. Best regards. ✍A.WagnerC (talk) 18:21, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
I found out here 😁. ✍A.WagnerC (talk) 18:25, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
Review request
Hi! Can you review this page?
Thank you! Byy2 (talk) 13:12, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Byy2, hi. There's a backlog in the queue right now, when a reviewer comes across it, it will be reviewed. Since it's a new article, please have patience. Onel5969 TT me 13:42, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Reply about Viktor Perelman page
Hello. I am returning your post regarding the Viktor Perelman page. I acknowledge that I acted too soon by publishing the page myself, and should have submitted it via the review process. I am definitely willing to modify it. You mention that the page does not meet Wikipedia's standards for structure and formatting, and has a huge COI and POV issue. Can you give me advice on how to properly edit the page so that it can be suitable for potential publication, and/or submission via the review process?
Thanks, 13irinapg (talk) 17:30, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- 13irinapg, hi. First, get rid of most/all the essays. If he has essays which have hundreds of citations, then they can be included, but if not, they should be removed as per WP:INDISCRIMINATE, as the only reason to put them in the article is to puff up the subject. Second, what you have as "reviews in the press" are not really reviews. They are not independent of the book, and appear to be more of forwards in the book, rather than reviews in independent media. Third, get rid of expressions like "turbulent struggle", and "as a person of extraordinary ability", simply state the facts. In the first instance, simply state that after he had difficulties with the Russian authorities, he immigrated. And in the second simply state he got an EB-1 visa. Onel5969 TT me 13:52, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Stroke Center article
Hi, WP sent me a notice about the article, "Stroke center," but the message area was blank. Did you have a suggestion or need me to change something? I know it needs more references. Thanks. CohuttaBlue (talk) 00:28, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- CohuttaBlue, hi. I'm not seeing where I sent you a message. Looking at the history of your talk page, the last activity there was back in January, and I just reviewed the page a few days ago on 4/2. Can you link to the message? Onel5969 TT me 13:56, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks. The WP system notification just lets me know you reviewed the page. But the automated email they sent read as if I should contact you. It said:
- "Editor's summary: -
- Contact the editor:
- mail: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/Onel5969
- wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Onel5969 "
- It suggested leaving a message on your talk page. So... sorry, I guess it's just a generic message letting me know I can contact you if needed. Thanks anyway.
- CohuttaBlue - yeah, not sure why that happened. Regardless, you're aware of what the article needs, so keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 16:50, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
- It suggested leaving a message on your talk page. So... sorry, I guess it's just a generic message letting me know I can contact you if needed. Thanks anyway.
ANI Notice
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Govvy (talk) 13:27, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Thanks
Thank You for reviewing my article!!! Sz Zzzzs (talk) 19:21, 6 April 2021 (UTC) |
ANI Notice
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Januszjan88 (talk) 13:36, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
reversing the Kabi redirect
Hi, please I do not understand why you reversed my changes to the Kabi page. I see that you are very very active, if there is at all a person behind this account, but because you are so active, I have doubt that you had a look into the topic and just reversed because everything gets reversed what was done by a newbee. Am I correct there? This well written and sourced article by Dianekmt who I am in contact with stands by its own, and just because the Gubbi Gubbi article states that both tribes are the same, doesn't justify deletion of the Kabi article. Its needs a little more investigation. Background : the Gubbi Gubbi lost a land title claim against the Kabi Kabi, and in maps and books the Kabi Kabi land is 150km north to 100km south of Noosa QLD. Would you help us to keep the Kabi page online, please? Wikigetsme123 (talk) 16:44, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- Wikigetsme123, hi. I'll let another reviewer take a whack at it. Onel5969 TT me 15:23, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- there is a discussion on at the Gubbi Gubbi page. It should have been on the Kabi page since Dianekmt added her article to the obviously empty page at that time, and it was deleted and redirected without any discussion on Dianekmt s Talk
Wikigetsme123 (talk) 08:03, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
List of songs recorded by Momoland
I don't see why you have to blanked List of songs recorded by Momoland, when articles like these exist;
Those articles either have 1 or 0 reference. While the Momoland article is backed up with plenty of references in comparison from those articles. Songwriters aren't mentioned in the discography article and it took plenty of time for me to gather information about the songwriters of those songs. Not every album track and b-side are mentioned in the discography article as well. Please gather a consensus or submit it to article deletion, rather than blanking it.TheHotwiki (talk) 23:41, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hotwiki, hi. The first part of your comment is WP:OSE, and not really valid. However, the second part has interesting points. Question though, why not simply add the additional information to the existing discography? Onel5969 TT me 15:25, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- Album tracks and b-sides don't have their own section in discography pages in Wikipedia, from what I've seen. Songwriters for each song/single aren't mentioned in discography pages as well. Also I just don't see the reasoning of redirecting it to the discography page of the group, when there's plenty of "List of recorded songs" by other artists (as I pointed out) that barely have any reference or worse completely unreferenced. Momoland is as well known as the other South Korean groups I've mentioned. I don't think its fair to blank a well sourced article featuring list of recorded songs - when there are other "List of recorded songs" articles that don't even have a single reference that continue to exist in Wikipedia for years. Also shouldn't you at least to put this up for discussion first? before you blank an article. Like I said, it took me a lot of effort and time to compile all those information and references. TheHotwiki (talk) 15:35, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Star Vijay Music
What is the reason behind deleting of Star Vijay Music page? I have removed redirect link of Star Vijay to create a separate page for Star Vijay Music. But, page has been got again redirected & removed all contents. Why? DreamTeamzz (talk) 04:35, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- DreamTeamzz, because it was deleted as the result of a recent AfD discussion, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Star Vijay Music. Onel5969 TT me 15:26, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Then what is the procedure to reconstruct the page? DreamTeamzz (talk) 19:03, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Deprodding of 1989–1990 unrest in Benin
I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}}
tag from 1989–1990 unrest in Benin, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}}
back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks!
Your opinion about Pogoń and Pahonia
@Onel5969: Hello, I noticed that you reverted Лобачев Владимир's edit in the article of Pogoń, who reverted mine edit in which I made it as a redirect page. There is an intensive discussion whenever Pagonia/Pahonia/Pogoń/Vytis/Waikymas (various names of the coat of arms of Lithuania in other languages) is the same thing, so your support in this discussion would be very welcome: HERE. Also, I reported the Belarusians pushing of propaganda HERE as they try to separate Pagonia/Pahonia/Pogoń from the Republic of Lithuania and to falsely prove that the modern Lithuania is derived from Samogitia (Duchy of Samogitia), while Belarus is the primary inheritor of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (it is a pure propaganda as it is scientifically known that this state was created by the Balts, not Slavs). So if you have a strong opinion in this topic, please participate in this discussion and in mine report of such actions to the administrators of Wikipedia. Best regards, -- Pofka (talk) 18:42, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
Hira Mani
I'm not sure what you mean here. Surely Hira would know her own date of birth better than anyone else? M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 23:49, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
- M Imtiaz, unless she's lying. Youtube is not a reliable source. Onel5969 TT me 02:38, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Why are we going to assume she's lying in the absence of any RS contradicting her? (RS, in fact, confirm that DOB). Again, per WP:ABOUTSELF, this is perfectly normal info to include; a video does not become unreliable merely by virtue of being posted on YouTube.This is the second time I remember talking to you about your reverting an IP edit to an unsourced or source-contradicting state (the first being here). If RS as they relate to South Asian topics are difficult for you to handle, maybe stray away from the topic area? M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 02:59, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- M Imtiaz, why are you going to assume she's telling the truth, when actors lie about their birthdays all the time? That's the more relevant question. And it's not about ABOUTSELF, but about the reliability of the source, YouTube. What if that video has been doctored? If the source was from Us or People, we would at least know that is truly what she said. On YouTube, things can be edited so that they are not what they appear to be, Onel5969 TT me 14:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hmm, I don't know, maybe because I literally just gave you a secondary RS that confirms what she said? Where there's an RS that demonstrates that the actor is lying, we obviously prefer that, but that's not the case here, so this is the type of uncontroversial info that ABOUTSELF allows.Surely Hira would have come out and called rubbish if an interviewer had doctored a video to have her say a different date of birth? Additionally, the fact that you seem to think only Western sources like the ones you mention can possibly be reliable demonstrates my point about you not being fit to work in South Asia as a topic area. Why are we not allowed to have our own newspapers, our own magazines, our own websites, instead of foreigners telling us that any information must be written in their sources in order to be accepted? M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 20:06, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- M Imtiaz, why are you going to assume she's telling the truth, when actors lie about their birthdays all the time? That's the more relevant question. And it's not about ABOUTSELF, but about the reliability of the source, YouTube. What if that video has been doctored? If the source was from Us or People, we would at least know that is truly what she said. On YouTube, things can be edited so that they are not what they appear to be, Onel5969 TT me 14:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Why are we going to assume she's lying in the absence of any RS contradicting her? (RS, in fact, confirm that DOB). Again, per WP:ABOUTSELF, this is perfectly normal info to include; a video does not become unreliable merely by virtue of being posted on YouTube.This is the second time I remember talking to you about your reverting an IP edit to an unsourced or source-contradicting state (the first being here). If RS as they relate to South Asian topics are difficult for you to handle, maybe stray away from the topic area? M Imtiaz (talk · contribs) 02:59, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Inappropriate use of Speedy Deletion
I'm rather perplexed on the tagging of Invest In Our New York Act that you added a CSD G11 tag to in this edit. As you can clearly see from that version, it is on a public legal bill and has plenty of sourcing to at least claim notability. It is in no way appropriate for speedy deletion to be used in any fashion on it, let alone a G11. Why did you think such an action was appropriate? SilverserenC 17:26, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Silver seren, because it's clearly an advertisement for the bill. It offers no contrary coverage, and only presents the bill from the pov of those who proposed it. While it was not deleted, the advertisement aspect of it was clearly supported by another editor. Onel5969 TT me 17:39, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- It offers the "POV" of the sources that are covering it. A legal bill article, at its creation, is not required to include "contrary coverage", that can be added later. There was nothing even close to advertisement about it. Otherwise you're claiming all legal bill articles on their creation are "advertisements", because they are going to all start off simply as saying what the bill is and what politicians created it. Again, not appropriate for CSD in the slightest. SilverserenC 17:42, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Silver seren, no, I'm claiming this one is. Regardless of the sources, the way this article is written is as an ad. I've reviewed literally hundreds of pages about bills, I believe this is the only one I've ever seen written so blatantly as an advertisement. Most have sourcing showing the pros and cons of the bill, especially in bills which are still only bills, and not laws. The only thing inappropriate are your comments. Onel5969 TT me 17:46, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- It offers the "POV" of the sources that are covering it. A legal bill article, at its creation, is not required to include "contrary coverage", that can be added later. There was nothing even close to advertisement about it. Otherwise you're claiming all legal bill articles on their creation are "advertisements", because they are going to all start off simply as saying what the bill is and what politicians created it. Again, not appropriate for CSD in the slightest. SilverserenC 17:42, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
Bro Daniel Rai
I have edited the article and there is no copyright infrigment now. I would request you to remove that tag. Daniel Rai is also a first Nepali international Christian peacher. His article is important for Indian Nepali El shaddai Christian as he is notable and influncer for many Nepali Christian. He also worked with well know preacher like Bro Bakht singh. He also converted the bible into Nepali language with the help of TBS. @bursubba (talk) 03:24, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Anti-feminist bias again? (Miranda as target)
Hello @Onel5969 !
I noticed you are now following all of my work...That almost feels like a compliment! However Miranda Veljačić (as you stated also yourself) is notable enough and so I hope you will you remove your deletionist action urge, before this escalates further. You are welcome to discuss it but if you are again trigger happy it is terrible starting point.
Thank you very much! --Zblace (talk) 13:50, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- Zblace, this is the second time you've made a baseless accusation. Aside from the fact that you don't have your facts correct in the above statement, and don't flatter yourself, not "following" your work. Simply slogging through the NPP process. You are free to remove the prod tag yourself, at which point I'll take it to AfD. And since you can't seem to be civil, do not post on my talk page again. Onel5969 TT me 13:56, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
Request to no delete page
Hello! I read your message in my talk page. But please, don't delete the Bachelor Express page.. :(( Corner2002 (talk) 15:57, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- Corner2002, hi. There are 2 issues with it. The first is that it was deleted as the result of a deletion discussion. Therefore, it probably should have gone through AFC for re-creation. The current sourcing is not really in-depth enough to show notability. An admin will take a look at the former version and determine if this is essentially different. If it is, that part of the speedy deletion will be removed. If it isn't it will be deleted. The second issue is one that it appears to simply be an article serving as an ad for the service. It should be re-written to make it more about the bus company, and not the services it provides. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 16:03, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
@Onel5969:, I didn't also know that the former page was deleted. But is there another way to not delete the page?
Request: clarification of article status
Article in subject: Euphoria (visual novel).
I'm trying to figure out the nomination of the article for deletion (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Euphoria (visual novel)). Can you lend a hand? אילן שמעוני (talk) 13:30, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- אילן שמעוני, I'm not exactly sure what you are asking me to do? Onel5969 TT me 13:35, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- I assume, since you reviewed said article, you found it appropriate for publication. Stating that in the deletion discussion will be appreciated. אילן שמעוני (talk) 13:41, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- אילן שמעוני, oh, okay. My review of the article was purely functional. The article was sent to AfD, so that discussion's result is going to decide whether or not the article will be kept, so it was "reviewed" simply to take it off the NPP backlog. When I looked at the article, I really didn't a strong feeling about notability one way or another. That being said, even if I had been going to comment, I would hesitate now, since you canvassed me. Please see WP:CANVASSING. But I will leave a comment at the discussion. Onel5969 TT me 13:46, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- I assume, since you reviewed said article, you found it appropriate for publication. Stating that in the deletion discussion will be appreciated. אילן שמעוני (talk) 13:41, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Pridnestrovie
Hi, this article is only at the initial stage of writing, why are you deleting the text? Then everything will be decorated with refferences and links. Jobyr (talk) 13:29, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Jobyr, the place to work on articles, if not providing sourcing, is in draft space. Would you like me to move it there for you so that you can work on it? Onel5969 TT me 13:31, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Not worth it, thanks, I'll try to work with the sources and arrange the article properly. As far as I know, no one deletes articles that are not properly formatted here, but marks the need for revision, and here are a lot of almost empty articles that no one is even going to add. So this actions surprised me. Jobyr (talk) 13:35, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Jobyr, this had nothing to do with formatting, but with lack of sources. As per WP:VERIFY, all information must be appropriately sourced, and unsourced information may be removed at any time, after which it should not be re-added without sourcing as per WP:BURDEN. And you are not making much sense. Why would you say it's not worth it to move to draft to work on it, where you'll be undisturbed, but yet you're going to work on it? Onel5969 TT me 13:40, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- If we are talking about verifying those paragraphs that I wrote yesterday, then, in my opinion, a draft is not needed here, but I need to provide links / sources, right? Jobyr (talk) 13:43, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Jobyr, from reliable, independent sourcing, yes. But still unsure about your reticence about moving it to draft. Onel5969 TT me 13:48, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- If the article causes any criticism, then I will move it to the draft. Now, if an article is in a common space, the whole community is finalizing it, but only me if it's in the draft. But, unfortunately, I have limited time resources, so collaboration is preferable here. Jobyr (talk) 13:59, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Jobyr, from reliable, independent sourcing, yes. But still unsure about your reticence about moving it to draft. Onel5969 TT me 13:48, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- If we are talking about verifying those paragraphs that I wrote yesterday, then, in my opinion, a draft is not needed here, but I need to provide links / sources, right? Jobyr (talk) 13:43, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Jobyr, this had nothing to do with formatting, but with lack of sources. As per WP:VERIFY, all information must be appropriately sourced, and unsourced information may be removed at any time, after which it should not be re-added without sourcing as per WP:BURDEN. And you are not making much sense. Why would you say it's not worth it to move to draft to work on it, where you'll be undisturbed, but yet you're going to work on it? Onel5969 TT me 13:40, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
- Not worth it, thanks, I'll try to work with the sources and arrange the article properly. As far as I know, no one deletes articles that are not properly formatted here, but marks the need for revision, and here are a lot of almost empty articles that no one is even going to add. So this actions surprised me. Jobyr (talk) 13:35, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Squid things
Hey, I'm aware of the recurring problem of stupidly-named duplicate articles that have to be merged, then leave the stupid name as a redirect in mainspace... the problem is that one can't just CSD them if they have a substantial history, as in this case. The best solution I have found so far is to move w/o redirect to a sensible name (in this case, one of the common names). This preserves the history at the cost of breaking a few links to the original, but these tend to be minimal with fresh productions. What do you think? --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 15:37, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Elmidae, I agree wholeheartedly. I did the CSD at virtually the same time you were fixing the redirect. I hadn't thought about doing it your way. Excellent result. Onel5969 TT me 16:00, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Elmidae, oh, and I forgot to mention that your whole concept, not just about the redirect aspect of it, was brilliant. I feel bad when there's an obviously better article created about an existing topic, that the only way I saw was to CSD it, since the topic already existed. But while this doesn't happen frequently (although for some bizarre reason it's happened about 5 times in the past 2 days), I'll use this method from now on. Bravo you. Onel5969 TT me 16:10, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Heh - it seems so simple but it apparently is non-intuitive even to the pros. I had a long discussion (can't find it now) with Anthony Appleyard, who is The Man with history mergers, about such a case, where I wanted to CSD a dumb redirect and save the history via history merger to the target page. Apparently that can only rarely be done, for reasons that still escape me. Then after a good while we both came up with this solution at the same time :p Next level elegance would be to move-w/o-redirect the original to the sensible name before merging, to avoid this type of bumbling, but we'll leave that for occasions when I've had coffee... --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 16:21, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Elmidae, yay! I think I just did one correctly, could you do me a favor and backstop me and see if you think I did it right? The page is Marajó Bay, which had been recreated as The Marajó Bay. Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 15:09, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
- Heh - it seems so simple but it apparently is non-intuitive even to the pros. I had a long discussion (can't find it now) with Anthony Appleyard, who is The Man with history mergers, about such a case, where I wanted to CSD a dumb redirect and save the history via history merger to the target page. Apparently that can only rarely be done, for reasons that still escape me. Then after a good while we both came up with this solution at the same time :p Next level elegance would be to move-w/o-redirect the original to the sensible name before merging, to avoid this type of bumbling, but we'll leave that for occasions when I've had coffee... --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 16:21, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- Elmidae, oh, and I forgot to mention that your whole concept, not just about the redirect aspect of it, was brilliant. I feel bad when there's an obviously better article created about an existing topic, that the only way I saw was to CSD it, since the topic already existed. But while this doesn't happen frequently (although for some bizarre reason it's happened about 5 times in the past 2 days), I'll use this method from now on. Bravo you. Onel5969 TT me 16:10, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
Just for fun
Hello O. When clicking on bare urls have you noticed the some websites have fun "page not found" messages? Here is one example and it kinda makes me wish I had kept a collection of them over the years. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 22:15, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
- MarnetteD, lol. But never too late to start your collection. Some are quite creative (most are simply dull 404 messages). Onel5969 TT me 01:24, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- You are so right about how dull most of them are. I'm guessing the fun ones have someone at the main website who has a creative spark and/or a good sense of humor. Thank goodness for that as we need things to make us smile from time to time and more so now than ever :-) Enjoy your Sunday and the week ahead!! MarnetteD|Talk 02:59, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
Rajendra Kishore Panda
Hi Onel5969. This is Pratik. Correct me if I am wrong. I noticed that you put 'notability' tag in Rajendra Kishore Panda, which has been created by me. The subject has received two very reputed awards: Gangadhar National Award For Poetry & Sahitya Akademi Award, given by Indian's National Academy of Letters. Is this not enough for author's notability ? Thanks.Pratikbhansali123 (talk) 12:10, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
- Pratikbhansali123, hi. Thanks for reaching out. After re-evaluating, have marked it reviewed. Onel5969 TT me 04:46, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Chicks on the Right
This article was in Draftspace, declined after numerous issues (after being AFDed), but I saw you patrolled it. Do you think it should go back to AFD, redirect or left alone? Its a very poorly written article. Zero Serenity (talk - contributions) 22:27, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
- Zero Serenity, when I do my NPP work, I used to look for the prior AfD tag first, but now that's the last thing I check. I simply look to see if, if it was a brand new article, does it pass WP:GNG, has any copyvio issues, and well, simply go through the NPP flow chart. I tagged it for unreliable sourcing, since, imho, it relies too heavily on YouTube crap. If you look at my record, I'm not shy at sending stuff to prod, CSD (due to the prior AfD), or AfD, nor am I reticent to draftify an article. I certainly wouldn't get bent out of shape if you sent it back to AfD, or even draftified it, if you let it sit for a week or so to allow the creator to attempt to bring it up to snuf. However, a WP:BEFORE seems to indicate that it passes WP:GNG. Onel5969 TT me 04:55, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi. Zero Serenity has been making comments on my page, but I would like to start a discussion about the Chicks on the Right page at the article talk. Can you help out and join in? Thank you! A4M2 Alaska4Me2 (talk) 01:02, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Alaska4Me2, be careful about WP:CANVASSING. Feel free to start a discussion on the article's talk page, which is the correct place to have a discussion. Zero Serenity, rather than edit-warring, simply take the article to AfD again. Or conversely, and I should have said this earlier, feel free to CSD it, as recreation of an article deleted through a discussion. An admin will then evaluate whether this version is significantly different from that which was deleted, if it is not, they will delete, but if it is significantly different, they will not. At that point, you can take it to AfD if you feel strongly. But do engage in a civil discussion on the talk page. Onel5969 TT me 01:30, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Special Barnstar |
Thank you for taking the time to be my trainer in NPP school and to share your wiki-wisdom. You taught me every trick in the book and more. I appreciate it. –Novem Linguae (talk) 19:29, 20 April 2021 (UTC) |
Sock Puppetry
Hi, I Suspect this three accounts to be the same person which was vandalising the kallar caste & other pages without a Wikipedia account, this accounts evolved after the page was protected, this people have been vandalising other pages as well. Oudi berry AravindShekar9 Ihaveabandonedmychild Nandivarman (talk) 13:03, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
V.Mitch McEwen
Hi I noticed that you flagged the article on V.Mitch McEwen for not meeting the notability criteria. I wanted to ask you how the subject is not meeting these criteria? Here is how I think the subject actually meets those criteria.
Under section 'Any Biography' the subject is meeting the 2nd point when the subject was part of the first ever all African-American group to be given a exhibition at the MoMA while starting a successful movement against 'White Supremacy in Architecture' to cancel the name of Nazi collaborator Philip Johnson from the gallery space. There are links from the New York Times and MoMA in the reference section.
The subject also meets the 'Academics' section criteria since the subject was faculty on several respected universities such as Columbia University or the University of Michigan and is currently a Professor at Princeton.
Receiving a tenured or tenure track position at a Ivy League school is probably not a notability in itself, but being the first African American person to do so in their architecture department is probably worth mentioning besides the fact that the subject has several papers and publication with citations as well and is frequently invited to give talks and presentations in academic circles.
McEwen, "Negro | Bauhaus: design and politics of experimental life" in Bauhaus futures (MIT Press, 2019) McEwen, "Watercraft: Detroit water infrastructure and its protocols of sprawl and displacement " in Perspecta 50: Urban divides (MIT Press, 2017)
Under 'Creative Professionals' the subject meets all four listed criteria with her body of work shown at the U.S. Pavilion in Venice Italy (only 12 Americans are invited every other year to exhibit here) and her work shown at the Museum of Modern Art or her work shown at the Detroit Art Museum or her award she received from the Knight Foundation as shown through the references in the article.
Again, would be good to hear your reasoning so I can improve the article and save it from deletion since there are probably many more references. However, if references such as the American Institute of Architecture, the Van Alen Institute, Princeton University, the New York Times, and major art and design magazines such as Metropolis, Pin Up, Architect's Newspaper are not considered reliable then it will be tricky of course.
Please let me know your thoughts and thank you for your time and effort. Soupmaker (talk) 18:55, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Soupmaker
- Soupmaker, hi. Definitely does not meet WP:NSCHOLAR. And I would disagree with your assessment re: WP:NCREATIVE and WP:ANYBIO. Regarding CREATIVE, I don't see how they meet any of the 4 criteria. There is nothing to show "The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors." That would be shown by references to her by her peers, which I'm not seeing. The best claim would be the 3rd bullet point, and her work on U.S. Pavilion, but I don't think it rises to the level needed. Having exhibitions at MoMA is good, but unless they are part of the permanent collection, that doesn't meet the criteria. Regarding ANYBIO, not sure the claims in the article satisfy that criteria. That being said, I didn't nominate the page for deletion, as I didn't feel strongly enough for that. But tagged it to let other reviewers know I think there may be an issue with it. Other reviewers may see it differently. To help the article, I'd find some good in-depth coverage about her, from independent sources, and add it to the article. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 11:29, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
David Rosebrook
Hello,
I received an email from you suggesting edits to the David Rosebrook article, yet I find no suggestions from you or any indication ANYWHERE that any of the information I have provided is not in compliance with Wikipedia standards. Please explain what I have done incorrectly. Thank you.
--Mark O'Keeffe (talk) 17:41, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
- Mark O'Keeffe, it's been tagged for almost a month as having unreliable sources, which would be all 3 of its current sourcing. In addition, I tagged it today, since there is still quite a bit of the article which is still uncited. If you receive notification like that again, simply go to the article and look at the tags. Onel5969 TT me 20:20, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
Faculty of Fine Arts of Pontevedra moved to draftspace
Hello! I'm sorry but I didn't see your message until today. I made a translation of the article that's why I didn't include references as they were not in the original articles (French, Portuguese). I have already added to the article multiple references from Spanish newspapers, in addition to the bibliography of the books where the information can be found. I have just submitted the draft for review. Best regards! --MJSB73MP (talk) 07:20, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- MJSB73MP, Nice job, reviewed it and moved it to mainspace. Keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 11:11, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Regarding revert of .cam gTLD page
Hi Onel5969. I'm the Technical & Business Development Manager of .cam gTLD and i created yesterday a page for .cam which was just a redirect before. However, i've seen you reverted the page to a previous edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=.cam&oldid=1019143361) justifying that the vast majority of the content is unsourced. I wrote the article for .cam providing the information directly from the source (our company), as we are managing this domain extension. Information provided in the edit is also live on ICANN wiki page (https://icannwiki.org/.cam) since a long time. What sources would you want to be provided since we are the company managing .cam and the most credible source of information when it comes to .cam gTLD. Thank you very much for your understanding.
Kindest Regards Andrei Dumitriu .CAM | https://nic.cam
Tespio (talk) 08:32, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- Tespio, hi. A couple of things, you have a definite COI issue, and probably a UPE issue (see WP:COI and WP:UPE. You shouldn't be editing the article at all, rather, you should be requesting edits on the article's talk space. Now about content. Everything on WP should be sourced. Claims, like the one you made about the 56th most used domain name, need to be sourced through independent sources, which you did, so that was nice. Finally, to show notability, you need to have some in-depth coverage from those independent sources. Are there articles in magazines, or trade publications which talk about the domain? Onel5969 TT me 11:10, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
Zia un Nabi
Hi. I have edited and removed whatever the copyvio was. The article is about notable biography of Prophet of Islam. Please cooperate so that it may be in main space. Suggest me to add or remove any point/content. ScholarM (talk) 20:43, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
- ScholarM, even with your changes, it doesn't meet notability criteria. Regardless, the copyvio needs to be redacted from history. Onel5969 TT me 02:12, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
NPP School
Hi Onel5969, I saw you are listed as a available trainer on Wikipedia:New pages patrol/School and wanted to ask you if you might consider taking me on as a student? -- Asartea Talk | Contribs 15:53, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
- Asartea, would be delighted to. Will set it up and ping you either later today or tomorrow morning. Onel5969 TT me 22:49, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, just dropping a quick reminder here since the treachery of timezones means the weekend is ending soonishly for me. -- Asartea Talk | Contribs 15:05, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- Asartea, I was going to ping you today, did you not get a ping on Friday? I set up the page, you can find it here: User:Onel5969/NPPSchool/Asartea. Apologies. Onel5969 TT me 15:59, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, just dropping a quick reminder here since the treachery of timezones means the weekend is ending soonishly for me. -- Asartea Talk | Contribs 15:05, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
Banned user and hoax articles
I noticed that you're CSDing anything made by banned user Wadamz, which was banned for making a couple of hoax articles. Are the things you're CSDing articles you suspect to be hoaxes? Because i've been looking through them and they seem to be properly sourced. Unless i'm missing something, they don't appear to be hoaxes and aren't at all in the style of the actual hoaxes the user made. SilverserenC 01:06, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
- Silver seren, you need to learn WP policy. Any article/redirect made by a sock can be removed. And to discourage socking, it should be removed. And you're behavior since you got shown up earlier on my talk page might be considered stalking. I suggest you stop it. And unless required by policy, don't post on my talk page again. Onel5969 TT me 01:12, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
- onel5969, this is your user talk page but I think despite your long, valued experience, you should be open to other editors raising questions with your activity. We all are challenged over edits we made, decisions we have taken, and it's not collaborative to ban anyone who comes to you with a question from your talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 03:36, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
- Liz, I understand that, however, this user has been stalking me since we had a disagreement a couple of weeks ago. It's one thing to raise questions, it's another thing to stalk. It would be fine if this was a user who had shown a proclivity to editing articles about Korean songs and artists. But they have not. In the two weeks since our disagreement, they have pretty much been stalking me, to the point where I was considering taking it to ANI (something I think I've only done once or twice - and that was years ago). We've had virtually no interaction for years, and now in the past two weeks, they've shown up on numerous pages after me. Even now, the user is removing the CSD tags claiming it was your suggestion. There is no CSD exemption, as you pointed out to them. They've made it clear they arbitrarily don't believe in G5's, as their edit summary here shows. But as always, thanks for your guidance. Onel5969 TT me 03:56, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
- onel5969, this is your user talk page but I think despite your long, valued experience, you should be open to other editors raising questions with your activity. We all are challenged over edits we made, decisions we have taken, and it's not collaborative to ban anyone who comes to you with a question from your talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 03:36, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
@Onel5969: Not sure if you seen my reply at Talk:Shin Se-kyung filmography. Anyway ... would appreciate that you browse through the article first before tagging it for CSD. Not every article requires CSD as majority of them meets either WP:NSONG, WP:NMUSIC or both. For article pertaining to person, majority of them meets WP:NACTOR or WP:NMUSIC or both. It is not worth of the time of other editors to go around and opposing the deletion even if it is usual procedure, caution should be exercised before doing so.
Note: This is pertaining to my view of the CSD tagging on various articles (K-pop/Korean-related only) created by DynamiteIce and relating to his/her block and it is not related to Silverseren and your conversation (I have no interest to participate in that). — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 05:08, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
- Paper9oll, as I said at the article talk pages, there's no exemption for CSD. Socks are a huge time suck for WP. There's the time spent tracking them down, the time wasted by NPP and AfC reviewers, the time spent by the admins at SPI, as well as the time spent by checkusers. Then the time spent doing the G5 tagging, and the time spent by the Admins deleting the articles. Socks should never be encouraged, and not deleting their articles is the most egregious form of encouragement. But thank you for your final comment. Onel5969 TT me 13:42, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Onel5969: Well thanks for the reply. I do agree that socks are bad for Wikipedia no matter what, I deal with socks myself as well and taken the time filed SPI against them, collecting bunch of diff just for strong evidence. But at the same time, my suggestion is that you could check the content first but initiating CSD, saving time at the same time. If nobody actually constested it then article which is a unofficial split (uncontested/BOLD) like Shin Se-kyung filmography would be likely be deleted when the content is actually important to the main article or song which meets guidelines or person as well. Of course, what I'm saying is worse case situation and would unlikely happen ... but who knows. Anyway ... the CSD has been rejected or everything is solved. Once again, thanks you and have a nice weekend and sorry for the rant. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:54, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Sankha
Sorry not to have replied sooner - I was off-line for a couple of days. I've deleted the draft and I see that there's now a deletion discussion going on so I will await the outcome. Deb (talk) 18:28, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
using copyvio revdels
Hi! I saw you requested some revdels on older violations (I am not an admin btw). I've been advised in the past to try to limit the revdels to egregious and blatant copyvios concerning the older stuff. I use the rule of 1K bytes or higher in text removed before calling it, and many admins who deal with copyright revdels do as well. If it's a lot of revisions, it has to be especially blatant (paragraphs upon paragraphs) as well. Just passing on what was discussed recently on some admins' talk pages about this! Kind regards, Sennecaster (What now?) 00:54, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- Sennecaster, thanks for the head's up. Never heard that. In fact in a couple of discussions I've had with admins I've been told, it doesn't matter how small the violation is. That said, it has to be a violation wherein there is no way to paraphrase the content. Will ping a couple of admins who do incredible yoeman's work on Copyvio's, to see what they say. Pinging Primefac, Hut 8.5, Cwmhiraeth, The Earwig for comment. Thanks in advance. Onel5969 TT me 03:04, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- Earwig was the one who told me to be more conservative recently :) Glad I could help! You may want to see a recent discussion on User talk:Diannaa about the matter. Sennecaster (What now?) 03:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- Sennecaster, well Diannaa is one of my go-to folks for questions regarding copyright violations, so I'd be interested in hearing from them as well. Which conversation on their page? Onel5969 TT me 03:09, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- User talk:Diannaa#Reasoning about RD1 :) If you want some more rapid-fire responses, there's a lot of active CCIers on the wikimedia discord. We've gathered quite a few copyvio hunters. Sennecaster (What now?) 03:12, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- There was also a recent discussion on AN with some more thoughts on when RD1 is appropriate, from me and others. It's a balancing act between trying to purge infringing content and preserving valid page history for editorial review, and I've seen editors fall on both ends of the spectrum. Some feel we shouldn't redact any edits if we would hide good-faith contributions that are still live (which I consider far too strict and not required by our copyright license) while others would be content to redact pretty much anything. There are at least two radically different interpretations of RD1 out there and I wish we could clarify this policy. I'm not sure what specific requests prompted this thread, but to give a general sense: among most admins I've spoken to recently who work in copyright cleanup, the view is that a revdel with a nontrivial amount of intervening history should only be done if the violation itself is especially egregious, or if it's likely the content might be re-added, or if the copyright holder complains. Happy to comment on specifics if there are particular cases you want to look at. — The Earwig (talk) 04:59, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah I was reading WP:NPP (cause #NPP School) and that page says to revdel everything no matter the circumstances (see this section), which seems to conflict with what seems to be the current CCI interpretation. Really some bigger discussion on this topic might be needed. -- Asartea Talk | Contribs 09:02, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- For NPP it's reasonable to request revdels in all cases. If an NP patroller is looking at a page then by definition it's new and it doesn't have much edit history, so revdel is almost certainly fine. In general though I will usually decline to revdel large numbers of edits spanning a large time period aside from special cases (e.g. most of the article is copyvio). This section of the revdel policy is relevant. Hut 8.5 11:39, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you all for the input. I see both sides of the discussion now. I don't think I've ever requested a revdel with more than 30 intervening edits except perhaps once. And that single time it was declined for exactly the reasons pointed out by Dianaa, The Earwig, and others. And Hut 8.5 seems to be spot on about NPP. And since that's where the vast majority of my revdel's come from, that's why I haven't run across the massive reverts. Again, thanks to Sennecaster for bringing it to my attention. Onel5969 TT me 12:14, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- (technically speaking the oldest article on Special:NewPagesFeed is from July 2005 but I get your point) -- Asartea Talk | Contribs 12:46, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- Asartea, thanks for pointing that out. I wasn't specific enough. After you get through the oldest 50 or so articles, the backlog is about 3 months. It's rare that I get a copyvio in the older ones, however, as those fall into 3 main categories: 1, it's been a redirect, and an editor wants to turn it into an article; 2, It was an article, and got turned into a redirect without a valid reason, and then someone else reverts the redirect; and 3, it's the result of a split. In the first and third instances, the new material would still be a valid revdel, in the second instance would be where the potential revdel issue might occur. Onel5969 TT me 12:53, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- For NPP it's reasonable to request revdels in all cases. If an NP patroller is looking at a page then by definition it's new and it doesn't have much edit history, so revdel is almost certainly fine. In general though I will usually decline to revdel large numbers of edits spanning a large time period aside from special cases (e.g. most of the article is copyvio). This section of the revdel policy is relevant. Hut 8.5 11:39, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah I was reading WP:NPP (cause #NPP School) and that page says to revdel everything no matter the circumstances (see this section), which seems to conflict with what seems to be the current CCI interpretation. Really some bigger discussion on this topic might be needed. -- Asartea Talk | Contribs 09:02, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- Sennecaster, well Diannaa is one of my go-to folks for questions regarding copyright violations, so I'd be interested in hearing from them as well. Which conversation on their page? Onel5969 TT me 03:09, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- Earwig was the one who told me to be more conservative recently :) Glad I could help! You may want to see a recent discussion on User talk:Diannaa about the matter. Sennecaster (What now?) 03:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
On #2 of WP:ENT
I’m not sure if or not an RFC pertaining to this has been discussed in the past, but if not I think we should initiate one in order to address #2 of ENT once and for all. I have seen editors use the “but he/she have a cult like following thus they are notable. I think it’s time we addressed that as a “cult like following “ is very vague and open to multiple interpretations, do you think we should affix a particular number of followers that establishes what a cult following is? Because I feel that criterion does the collaborative project a great disservice. What are your thoughts on this? Celestina007 (talk) 01:56, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- Celestina007, I agree that that particular criteria is extremely vague. What's a cult? 10? 100,000? 1,000,000? Would definitely contribute to the discussion. Onel5969 TT me 03:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Keep the Murder of Jaslyn Adams page
The murder has gathered significant media attention from politicians, social media and elsewhere. I do agree that the rate of child murder in Chicago is high, but this one was labelled as “special” by the media. Do not delete this page. CanadianOntarian (talk) 02:30, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Minerva Mirabal Reyes and Masooma Ranalvi
Hello again Onel5969, just following up on this thread since you've marked yet another of my group's articles for deletion. Can you please clarify what your issues are with this one so that we can address them? Thanks.--Liliput000 (talk) 14:06, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello Onel5969 can you please explain your speedy deletion of the page and then the speedy nomination for deletion once I reverted your deletion? I am happy to improve the article if there are discrepancies that raise a red flag for any reason as I do indeed believe she is importantly notable worthy or her own page. Thanks in advance.--Liliput000 (talk) 18:33, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- Liliput000, I've never requested it to be speedy deleted. But in response to your question, I stated my rationale at the AfD discussion. While the sisters, as a group are notable, none of them individually meet the notability criteria. What you need are several in-depth articles from independent reliable sources which focus on her, not on the sisters as a group. Onel5969 TT me 19:46, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment Onel5969 I believe we have enough, and I know there are no hard and fast rules on exactly how many we need and whether the source needs to be exclusively about the person in question. Sometimes that's simply not possible. Let's see what others say. The challenge with it is that some of them are in spanish, but as you will see there is an independent page for another of the sisters, and Minerva is in fact the more notable of the three. --Liliput000 (talk) 20:02, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- Liliput000, the Spanish thing shouldn't be an issue. I would agree with you that Minerva is slightly more notable than her sisters, and don't believe the other sister comes anywhere near meeting notability criteria, but WP:OSE is rarely a good argument. I would encourage you to put your thoughts at the AfD discussion. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 20:04, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- I'll look into that. And I wanted to ask what you meant that you did not request a speedy delete? You deleted the article, speedily, without reason noted, that to me sounds like a speedy delete. Was that a mistake? Thanks. --Liliput000 (talk) 20:07, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- Liliput000 - "speedy delete" is a technical term on WP. Articles which are speedily have to meet certain criteria (see WP:CSD), which yours certainly did not. What I did was turn the article into a redirect to the sisters page. This is actually an "alternative to deletion" (WP:ATD). Aside from CSD'ing an article, an editor can do what is called "prodding" or to be more specific, "proposing the article for deletion". I could have done that rather than redirect the article, but only if I thought the deletion would be uncontroversial. Since you reverted the redirect, there was definitely not going to be uncontested, so I sent it to AfD (Articles for Deletion), to open up a discussion regarding her individual notability. I hope that clarifies it for you. Onel5969 TT me 20:21, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969 Thanks for clarifying!--Liliput000 (talk) 20:27, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- Liliput000 - "speedy delete" is a technical term on WP. Articles which are speedily have to meet certain criteria (see WP:CSD), which yours certainly did not. What I did was turn the article into a redirect to the sisters page. This is actually an "alternative to deletion" (WP:ATD). Aside from CSD'ing an article, an editor can do what is called "prodding" or to be more specific, "proposing the article for deletion". I could have done that rather than redirect the article, but only if I thought the deletion would be uncontroversial. Since you reverted the redirect, there was definitely not going to be uncontested, so I sent it to AfD (Articles for Deletion), to open up a discussion regarding her individual notability. I hope that clarifies it for you. Onel5969 TT me 20:21, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
- I'll look into that. And I wanted to ask what you meant that you did not request a speedy delete? You deleted the article, speedily, without reason noted, that to me sounds like a speedy delete. Was that a mistake? Thanks. --Liliput000 (talk) 20:07, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Hasan Moghimi
Hi One15969, I saw your message on my newly created page Hasan Moghimi. I would like to thank you for your consideration and help. I'm improving the article by adding new references and adding more information. What makes me a bit confused is there are dozens of pages about people with much less information or achievements. I don't want to mention here (I would if you want). This guy has published 7 pictorial books about Iran's nature as well as being co-author of other 7 (reference is in Persian but I can add ISBNs). Also he has 5 more books under publication. I wonder what would be more notable for a photographer than thousands of published pictures on national level. In the below reference there is a detailed interview with Hasan Moghimi in a news website, however it is in Persian.
Theo Hiddema
Hi. I think here you (accidentally?) made a sock allegation against me? I made a proper edit and then you undid edits, including what I edited - which was properly sourced and accurate. I'm not sure if you think I'm someone's sock or that you reverted more than you meant to do. --143.176.30.65 (talk) 21:52, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
In fact, I think your entire "Back to pre-sock" edit was wrong. None of the edits you reverted look malicious to me... --143.176.30.65 (talk) 21:57, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
I have re-added the content. Regardless of who you think are socks, this is reliably sourced and accurate content about the subject. IMO, you should not revert content merely because it was added by a suspected sock. --143.176.30.65 (talk) 22:12, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
Good/Bad news
Hello O. Per this Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Toolforge_down refill and citer are down but reflinks is working again. It's ability to mark dead links and fix some PDFs is so valuable I hope it keeps running for awhile. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 16:16, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
- MarnetteD, it appears refill is back up. Nice to know about reflinks though, will begin using it again, to reduce what I load on your shoulders. Onel5969 TT me 16:33, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
New Page Review
Hi there Onel, funny we have the same first name. Anyway I'm writing to you, to request for a page review for my article as it has been without a review for quite a while, could you kindly take a look at it and review it for me, it's named C.W. Lemoine and was made me, between the first of March to April. If you have any concerns do let me know and thank you in advance! Delta fiver (talk) (UTC) 13:52, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- Delta fiver, hi. Please be patient. We have over 3400 pages in our backlog (8 months ago it was 13,000!). I'm going through the articles beginning 4/1 starting tomorrow, so if no one else gets to it, I should get to it at some point in the coming week. Onel5969 TT me 21:30, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- Alright, will do, thank you very much! Delta fiver (talk) (UTC) 05:10, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Brilliant Idea Barnstar |
Thank you for helping out my article on WhiteHat Jr!
You deserve this barnstar. Vamsi20 (talk) 14:49, 28 April 2021 (UTC) |
- Thanks Vamsi20, although I really didn't do much, just formatted the citations for you. Keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 21:24, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Thomasian Welcome Walk
Hi! Could you help me publish this article? I am not sure, but I think you were the first one who suggested for the article to be deleted. The consensus was to Redirect. Anyway, I have added significant number of independent sources and continually doing so. I dont know what to do. I have tried several ways for the article to be published, but to no avail. I hope you can help me publish it, so some editors can also see and contribute to the article. Thank you! Pampi1010 (talk) 17:37, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- Pampi1010, hi. It's the queue over at AfC, so be patient. I didn't do a full review, but the spot check I did didn't really show it meets notability guidelines. But I didn't check it all, as I don't do much over at AfC any more. The one Yahoo News piece would definitely count towards notability, but most of the sourcing is primary, so that doesn't count, and a couple of the other refs I spot checked which weren't primary were simple mentions. My advice is to wait and let AfC run its course. There are a lot of good editors over there trying to slog through the backlog. You've done a nice job on it. Onel5969 TT me 21:23, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
Internazionali di Modena error
When someone incorrectly turns an article such as Internazionali di Modena into a redirect and that redirect goes to a tournament that is not the same tournament, you do not revert the person who corrected that. Especially with a reason of "zero sourcing" when there was a source, it was just outdated. That happens when original print articles move. Certainly you could have tagged the article with outdated sources, but be careful in the future. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:36, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- Fyunck(click), actually, that's exactly what could be done. Unreferenced material, as per WP policy, can be removed at any time, and again as per policy (WP:BURDEN), may not be reinstated without proper citations as to meet WP:VERIFY. If you have an issue with the redirect pointing to the wrong tournament, than you should take it to RFD. A non-existent source is not a source. Onel5969 TT me 20:20, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- You are reading wikipedia wrong! BLP's are one thing but just because something is unreferenced you do not delete it, you'd put it up for deletion. And if it was referenced at one time, and that reference is now broken, you absolutely do not delete it. You would try and fix the once good reference. Fyunck(click) (talk) 22:42, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
- Fyunck(click), actually, I'm not. You don't seem to understand WP policy. WP:VERIFY, a policy, states, "All material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists and captions, must be verifiable. All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation that directly supports the material. Any material that needs a source but does not have one may be removed." Then it goes further regarding BLP's, and adds, "Please immediately remove contentious material about living people that is unsourced or poorly sourced." But you missed the first part, that any material may be removed if unsourced. And then you obviously didn't read further under WP:BURDEN, part of the same policy, which states, "Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source." We do not know it was ever referenced, as we do not know that reference was ever valid. And I have no interest in the article's subject, so no interest in working on it. You have every right to work on the article and provide adequate sourcing. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 00:22, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- There is a difference. If you see a longstanding article that has no sources or has sources that that link to now dead web pages, and you simply blank the page, you are going to get blocked. I can't tell you how many administrators have told me this. You have to be careful in how you handle things. We had that with this article... and article that was sourced but the link broke. Then we had an editor make a mistake in turning the article into a redirect to an article that had nothing to do with the title. That part was fixed and you reverted it. That was wrong and will always be wrong. Fyunck(click) (talk) 01:31, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- Fyunck(click), nope. But you keep telling yourself that. And keep ignoring policy. But this conversation is now over. Onel5969 TT me 01:34, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- There is a difference. If you see a longstanding article that has no sources or has sources that that link to now dead web pages, and you simply blank the page, you are going to get blocked. I can't tell you how many administrators have told me this. You have to be careful in how you handle things. We had that with this article... and article that was sourced but the link broke. Then we had an editor make a mistake in turning the article into a redirect to an article that had nothing to do with the title. That part was fixed and you reverted it. That was wrong and will always be wrong. Fyunck(click) (talk) 01:31, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- Fyunck(click), actually, I'm not. You don't seem to understand WP policy. WP:VERIFY, a policy, states, "All material in Wikipedia mainspace, including everything in articles, lists and captions, must be verifiable. All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation that directly supports the material. Any material that needs a source but does not have one may be removed." Then it goes further regarding BLP's, and adds, "Please immediately remove contentious material about living people that is unsourced or poorly sourced." But you missed the first part, that any material may be removed if unsourced. And then you obviously didn't read further under WP:BURDEN, part of the same policy, which states, "Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source." We do not know it was ever referenced, as we do not know that reference was ever valid. And I have no interest in the article's subject, so no interest in working on it. You have every right to work on the article and provide adequate sourcing. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 00:22, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- You are reading wikipedia wrong! BLP's are one thing but just because something is unreferenced you do not delete it, you'd put it up for deletion. And if it was referenced at one time, and that reference is now broken, you absolutely do not delete it. You would try and fix the once good reference. Fyunck(click) (talk) 22:42, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Flag of Transkei
Hey mate, what was wrong with the Flag of Transkei page? Seemed like a good idea to move the flag description off the main Transkei page. Lankyant (talk) 12:33, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- Lankyant, there's nothing wrong with the concept of a separate page for a flag, as long as their is in-depth coverage from reliable sources to back up the article's content. The single source in the article is not a reliable source. Hope that helps. Onel5969 TT me 21:17, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- onel5969, ahh okay thank you, I'll go do some more digging.
Lankyant (talk) 21:33, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
François Bergeron
Howdy. I was wondering if you see anything fishy going on here? I am guessing at least half the keep votes are, let's say, less than well-intentioned.--- Possibly (talk) 16:59, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- Possibly, interesting that all of the keep !votes are from users with less than 1000 edits, several with less than 100. The biggest issue is that none of the keep !votes properly address policy. Several cite GNG, but do not provide any in-depth coverage to back it up. Particularly laughable are the claims that the 7 sources provided in the AfD show he passes GNG, however, looking at them, LAT – only a brief mention; NYT – only a brief mention; Entrepreneur – only a brief mention; Live Design – interview, primary source, doesn’t go to notability; Arabian Business – only a brief mention; Talking Broadway – not even a brief mention, simple listing; New York Festivals – not even a brief mention, simple listing. Also laughable are the claims that he passes musicbio #10 and that simply working on notable productions satisfies GNG. Onel5969 TT me 21:16, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Onel5969: yes I agree on all counts. Just in general, I have the sense that the paid editing playbook may now include training on how to manipulate AfD discussions. E.g. boilerplate votes without much argument made by seemingly genuine accounts with less that 250 edits. IN terms of the Bergeron AfD, I find it very strange that so many keep votes showed up so quickly. I would launch and SPI but I cannot find the thread that connects them. --- Possibly (talk) 22:27, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- Possibly, I couldn't find one either. I started to compare their AfD participation, and 4 of them have suspicious timing. But not enough, imho, to bother the good folks over at SPI. Once can only hope that the admin closer doesn't simply count !votes, and bases the decision on policy. Although there are so many which are closed simply on !vote counts, without regard to policy, I don't hold out much hope for that. Onel5969 TT me 02:41, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Onel5969: yes I agree on all counts. Just in general, I have the sense that the paid editing playbook may now include training on how to manipulate AfD discussions. E.g. boilerplate votes without much argument made by seemingly genuine accounts with less that 250 edits. IN terms of the Bergeron AfD, I find it very strange that so many keep votes showed up so quickly. I would launch and SPI but I cannot find the thread that connects them. --- Possibly (talk) 22:27, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
What are your thoughts on this?
For the first time in a long while I came across an article that got me confused. This is the article, the article makes numerous bold assertions of notability, it’s definitely {{fanpov}}
and an a promotional article. I did a WP:BEFORE search in reliable sources which do not seem to substantiate any of those bogus notability claims made in the article. I’m not sure about this one, so I thought it wise to ask you. What do you think about this? Celestina007 (talk) 22:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
- Celestina007, wow, that certainly is a tough one. You could have tagged it for speedy, since it was deleted through AfD back in 2017. Definitely promotional. You could probably have tagged it as pure promotion, but that depends on what admin reviews the tag. The fan view tag is definitely appropriate, as is the notable tag. I think you could definitely justify draftify if there are no improvements in a few weeks. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 15:03, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- yes! It definitely does help. Thanks. Celestina007 (talk) 17:21, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi
I think my Datong, Anhui and Shouchun, Anhui pages should not be in draftspace, because of WP:GEOLAND.
Also, can you delete User talk:Pizza0614/TWA? Pizza0614 (talk) 00:35, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) @Pizza0614: you can request to have User talk:Pizza0614/TWA by adding {{Db-g7}} at the top of the page. -- Asartea Talk | Contribs 07:31, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
- Pizza0614, have moved back as per draftify, regardless of the poor quality of the article. It's been tagged for over a month without improvement, no infobox.Onel5969 TT me 15:05, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
Tamil Nadu Premier League
Hi , onel5969 articles named 2016 Tamil Nadu Premier League , 2017 Tamil Nadu Premier League , 2018 Tamil Nadu Premier League & 2019 Tamil Nadu Premier League are redirected to Tamil Nadu Premier League by you with reason ( articles are not notable ) but these articles are useful for users for TNPL stats , like most runs , most wickets , season champions , runner , points table so please I request you to don't redirected these pages because single article Tamil Nadu Premier League can't provide all these information . User:தனீஷ் (talk)
UCL Press
Hi, I wanted to let you know that I quite shocked to see that the article I started writing on UCL Press was simply deleted without any discussion and without providing myself or others with any opportunity to expand the article. This is highly disappointing and also makes me think Wikipedia is simply not a place which is welcome to new editors. If someone acted in such a high handed and unilateral manner where I work, they would not merely be unpopular but at risk of disciplinary.
The publishing house of the largest university proper in the UK, one of the highest ranked in the world, as well as the first open source university publisher and which has published dozens of books to date, is inherently notable. The onus is on others to disprove this. There are numerous reference to the press in reputable third party sources including in the Bookseller which is the leading trade publication in the UK.
I do not have the time to invest in lengthy battles here so will not bother to pursue this further. It has shown me that Wikipedia editing is not a constructive use of my time. TopkapiMusik (talk) 16:19, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- TopkapiMusik, First, it wasn't deleted, a redirect was restored, with notation that there wasn't enough coverage to show notability. Second, if the assertions you make above are correct and true, then simply add them to the article and provide proper citations to back them up. Third, you asked to discuss on talk page, which I did, and which you seemingly did not truly mean, as you failed to discuss this on the talk page, instead coming here. Here's a hint, if you want help, don't be officious, and ask for it. Onel5969 TT me 16:26, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. First, I can't see the discussion you started, please can you provide a link, I would be happy to discuss there instead. I am happy to try to develop the article and add more sources (was planning to do so over the next few days), but how can I do this if it will simply be deleted? Deletion also prevents others adding to the article and working on it together. Why not leave it there for a least a few weeks to be developed? If you can help me to develop the article, it would be much appreciated. The subject appears, to me at least, to be inherently notable and will not be going away, it is the press of one of the largest research universities in the world.TopkapiMusik (talk) 16:37, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- (Now found the talk page discussion and replied there)TopkapiMusik (talk) 16:48, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
English prepositions
Thank you for tagging this page! I've added citations. Do you think the tag can be removed? If not, could you point out specific claims that you feel are not sufficiently supported?--Brett (talk) 18:36, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
- Brett, nice job. I know you split it from the main article, so thanks for taking this on. Still needs a few more cites. For example, there's a quote by William Bullokar, which definitely needs a footnot, the entire section "Types of prepositions" is unsourced. And there are several other assertions made in the piece without citations. If it only need two or 3, you could take the tag off and simply add CN tags where needed, but there still appears to be significant referencing needed, even after all your good work. Onel5969 TT me 19:23, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Timeline of teletext in the UK
I noticed that you recently relegated an article that I had created - Timeline of teletext in the UK - to draftspace without consulting me first, thereby not allowing me the opportunity to address your concerns. I have now added further independent references and there are now 18 references from a variety of independent sources and this is more than adequate for the article to satisfy any issues regarding independent references. I have now clicked on "Submit your draft for review!" and can you please reinstate this article to mainspace. Rillington (talk) 16:58, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Question about your deletion of page Tim Gorski
Dear Onel5969, according to a message received on my User talk:Neuralia page on April 14, 2021, you deleted page Tim Gorski which I had created weeks before, "because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic". I wonder if you would care to comment further about the specific parts of the page that in your view gave grounds for that qualification. Since the deleted page is not visible now for further reference, I have retrieved from my own sandbox records the initial content of the page at the time of its creation, which is visible now on my subpage User:Neuralia/sandbox/TG. May I ask if in your view such (initial) content already incurred in advertising or if the content responsible for the disqualification was something else, presumably added after I created the page. Your help with this will be greatly appreciated, as (as a learning editor) one wishes not to make the same type of mistake more than once. Thank you. Neuralia (talk) 18:20, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
- Neuralia, hi, it's difficult to accurately answer your question. I review hundreds of articles each day, and honestly I don't remember that article from 3 weeks ago. But you must understand that I didn't delete the article, I simply nominated it for speedy deletion as advertising. An admin looked at my recommendation and agreed with my assessment and then deleted the article. I took a glance at your sandbox, but did not do a deep dive. There is still a promotional angle to the piece, and I am not sure they pass notability. None of his documentaries appears to be notable. My advice would be to create the article and then put it through the AfC process, there, experienced editors can give you advice and constructive criticism. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 03:43, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Void and the Valiant Universe
How are you doing, User talk:Onel5969? Good, I hope. Considering all the time and energy I put into making those articles, I ask what all can I do to make them notable and fully accepted - seeing that they are both now within the Scope of Wikipedia. Thanks to you for reading this.(LonerXL (talk) 04:47, 5 May 2021 (UTC))
- LonerXL, hi. What you wrote is all from an in-universe perspective. The one article, has no independent sourcing at all. As per WP:FICTION, "Articles on fiction elements are expected to cover more about "real-world" aspects of the element, such as its development and reception, than "in-universe" details." Which is in turn based on WP:PLOT which says that fictional elements should be treated "in an encyclopedic manner, discussing the development, design, reception, significance, and influence of works in addition to concise summaries of those works." Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 12:48, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- I appreciate you taking your time to give me a response on this matter. And it helped, because I now have some understanding of what you are saying. I have a question: Does this mean that the articles for both Marvel Universe and DC Universe are written from an in-universe perspective, also? I ask that question, because those articles were looked at as a "template" of sorts in my attempt to make one for Valiant Universe. Thanks again. (LonerXL (talk) 21:50, 5 May 2021 (UTC)) LonerXL (talk) 21:50, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Re: Changed Public-benefit corporation to a disambiguation page
Message added 15:35, 5 May 2021 (UTC). You can at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Reinstatement of content
Message added 15:45, 5 May 2021 (UTC). You can at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Opinion
Hello Onel. I need your opinion if possible. I nominated PuffballsUnited for speedy deletion, because I understand that this redirection is unnecessary. The person is a designer of the game Among Us. Particularly, I do not find secondary and reliable sources or evidence of notability of this designer to fit in notability for a single event, which could justify the creation of the redirect, as WP:BLP1E. But an editor, who does not seem to me to be experienced, contested the elimination. What do you think? Is this redirection correct? The creator was creating several similar redirects, because of that, a more experienced editor sent to him a warning. Best regards. ✍A.WagnerC (talk) 17:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- A.WagnerC, the real key to redirects is if what is being redirected exists on the target page. If it doesn't then the redirect might qualify for deletion. However, even in that case, the correct venue would most likely be WP:RFD. So, in this particular case, Puffballs United, according to a note in the target article, is an alternate name for one of the game's designers. In that case, the redirect is probably valid. The fact that that note is footnoted, and the footnote does support the nickname, so I would say it's a valid redirect. If the note did not have a footnote, in other words, there was no way to WP:VERIFY the nickname, an argument could be made to take it to RFD. Redirects do not need to meet notability criteria. In fact, they are great for things which don't make notability criteria, but are mentioned in other articles, such as this case. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 18:26, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you very much for the advice. I will leave the redirect as it is. ✍A.WagnerC (talk) 18:48, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Society of Sciences in Lund
Forgive me, but the sources I have added for the Draft:Society of Sciences in Lund is the Swedish National Encyclopedia www.ne.se and the Swedish State Calendar which is the official calendar of the Swedish state - both surely must be taken as reliable indications of notability and relevance to list this learned society in Wikipedia as is. Apart from the society itself, ne.se and the state calendar, it is hard to find others writing about the society. The learned publications series are of high quality but as little admissible as the society website. But this does not alter the fact that ne.se article should suffice as an indication of notability and relevance. Jonar242 (talk) 14:59, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
- Jonar242, please see what qualifies as per WP:GNG, since this is an organization, WP:CORPDEPTH would also apply. I would say the se piece indicates that it is likely notable, but without passing WP guidelines, it isn't. Onel5969 TT me 22:13, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
Labour for a Republic
Thank you for reviewing this article.—TrottieTrue (talk) 13:42, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- TrottieTrue, you're welcome. Onel5969 TT me 15:36, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- I notice that you have reviewed it again today (seemingly without a change). Thanks, but I'm just wondering why?--TrottieTrue (talk) 14:38, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- TrottieTrue, when the other editor made his changes, and then you reverted, it re-added it to the queue. Onel5969 TT me 14:59, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. Thanks for clarifying. I didn't know there was a "queue" for these things.--TrottieTrue (talk) 15:00, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- TrottieTrue, when the other editor made his changes, and then you reverted, it re-added it to the queue. Onel5969 TT me 14:59, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
- I notice that you have reviewed it again today (seemingly without a change). Thanks, but I'm just wondering why?--TrottieTrue (talk) 14:38, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
NES and Inti Plasma reversion
Hello there, may I ask why you reverted my changes to the Inti-Plasma Farming and NES page? My changes made perfect sense, as also explained in the change message. Thanks, Vormoza (talk) 13:46, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
- Vormoza, first, when you leave a comment on a user's talk page, it's polite to leave a link to the page(s) you are questioning about. Second, I explained in the edit summary, "Rev cut and paste move - see WP:CUTANDPASTE". What you are attempting to do is not allowed due to attribution reasons. You must "move" the page in order to maintain its editing history. Onel5969 TT me 15:39, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
PROD for Nicholas Simon
Hello Onel5969, thank you for your review of the Nicholas Simon page. I saw that your reason for proposing the article for deletion is because there is "not enough in-depth coverage to pass WP:GNG, and doesn't meet WP:NFILMMAKER." Given that there are three separate in-depth sources on the page's subject (they address the topic directly and in detail, not needing original research; the sources are authoritative - the NYFA is a reputable establishment in the film industry, and Peter Fox and Patrick Brzeski are known film and media journalists/commentators; they are secondary sources; they are independent sources, as interviews aren't press releases) and WP:GNG states that there is no fixed number of sources required, I was wondering what other sources would you consider necessary for the article to meet the guideline?
In regards to the concern about not meeting WP:FILMMAKER, I was wondering if the page's subject must fulfill all four points? While I do believe that Simon is an important figure (as one of the few producers working on international feature films and TV shows), has played a major role in co-creating significant/well-known works (namely Extraction and A Prayer Before Dawn, as these were mostly filmed in Thailand, and scenes in several Avengers movies), and his works have become a significant monument (in that they mark a growth in SEA's developing film industry), I don't think he has (or at least, as far as I'm aware of) originated a new concept/theory/technique. However, I believe he does fulfill these three other points and is an encyclopedia-worthy subject.
I would appreciate any further advice and comments you have, as I want to fix the page before the week is over and prevent it from being deleted.
Many thanks!
Kind regards,
-- Minekovaa (talk) 02:15, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- Minekovaa, hi there. First, thank you for your polite inquiry. Second, you can remove the prod tag yourself, simply provide a very short summary of what you say above when you do. Your first point is the strongest, and that's what I would key on, that you feel there is enough significant coverage to pass WP:GNG. Your second point, regarding FILMMAKER, isn't as strong. While he worked on films, his roles on the films he worked on are not of the level to meet FILMMAKER (imho). Associate and co-producers on modern films don't qualify. And no, they don't have to meet all 4 points. I will tell you that I think this is an article that I feel falls just below notability criteria, and if you removed the tag, I wouldn't contest it. I would let another NPP reviewer take a look at it. I hope this helps. And welcome to WP. Onel5969 TT me 15:34, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply and for honestly answering my questions. I will remove the prod tag and provide a summary of my reasons (namely regarding the WP:GNG issue) as you have suggested. Will I need to tag another NPP reviewer on the article's talk page or will they naturally come across the article and review it?
- Thanks again!
- Kind regards,
- -- Minekovaa (talk) 20:09, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Redirect Article
Hamidabad College, Satsia হানিফ আলী (talk) 05:06, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Imelda Staunton filmography article
Hi Onel5969. I just wanted to ask you which particular policy of WP:Split mandated that a standalaone article on Imelda Staunton's acting credits was not necessary, especially considering how vast it is? Will keep that in mind for sure before doing the same in future. Thanks. Jovian Eclipse (talk) 11:55, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- Jovian Eclipse, hi. There are two criteria to wp:split, WP:SIZESPLIT and WP:CONTENTSPLIT, neither of which this qualifies under. In addition, when you split an article, you have to provide attribution. If you do, please put something like, "Split from XXXXX, please see that page's history for attribution. Onel5969 TT me 15:36, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- But the acting credits standalone article had all the filmography tables fully referenced with added notes and was of >89kB size. The size of Staunton's biography article is 45kB. So now, if I edit the filmography tables in her biography article to make them look like the ones in the article I had created, the size of the biography article would certainly go above 100kB. That sure demands a split as per WP:SIZESPLIT, right? Jovian Eclipse (talk) 16:29, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- Jovian Eclipse, the size split figures refer to "readable prose", and don't include tables. Right now, the readable prose size is 11kB. Onel5969 TT me 17:39, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- But the acting credits standalone article had all the filmography tables fully referenced with added notes and was of >89kB size. The size of Staunton's biography article is 45kB. So now, if I edit the filmography tables in her biography article to make them look like the ones in the article I had created, the size of the biography article would certainly go above 100kB. That sure demands a split as per WP:SIZESPLIT, right? Jovian Eclipse (talk) 16:29, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Creation of former footballers articles
Hi Onel, I'm creating articles of former Mexican footballers who are now coaches and I wanted to ask you if you could help me in creating some of them, these are the following: Juan Manuel Rivera, Octavio Becerril, Luis Fernando Soto, Esteve Padilla, Luis Manuel Díaz, Martín Pérez Padrón, Félix Martínez Mendoza and Filadelfo Rangel.
It would be great and I would appreciate if you could help me in creating some of them.
SputnikXX (talk) 16:32, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Sacad Muuse
Hi, You keep reverted my edit on Sacad Muuse unilaterally when I am telling you the article at Habr Awal mostly applies to it. I cannot seem to rename it and move it so if you can do this instead of redericting that would be much more helpful. Thanks, Linkjan2014 (talk)
- Linkjan2014 if you wish to move the article to a new title, then you can do one of two things. Neither of which you are currently doing. Both involve "moving" the article to the new name. First, you can put in a request at WP:MOVEREQ, and state your reasons for the move. Or, you can move it yourself, if you have that editing right. The current redirect might be blocking you from making that move, so you can request the redirect to be deleted under a speedy G6. You'll again be asked to supply a rationale for the requested move. Other editors/admins will evaluate your request in each case, and if they agree a move is warranted, they'll comply with your request. Thanks for engaging in conversation, as simply continuing to cut and paste will lead to you getting blocked. I hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 18:03, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
Highland PICT Team
You suggested deletion as it requires additional external citations - it contains citations from 3 newspapers, various NHS and charity organisations. Without spamming it with citations I’m not sure what change you are actually suggesting here. Imaginarium Monkey (talk) 13:56, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Imaginarium Monkey, as stated in the prod, the citations have to be both from independent sources, and be in-depth about the subject, not mere mentions. In addition, the sources have to be secondary. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 13:59, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- I think I see what you’re getting at, the Scottish Trauma Network cited document is a fairly detailed discussion of the service, cost benefit analysis and discussed PICTs role in training other advanced practitioners. Are you suggesting more citations similar to this are needed? Imaginarium Monkey (talk) 18:23, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Imaginarium Monkey, not only that, but the sources have to be independent, and the STN is not independent, since they are affiliated. They also have to be from reliable sources (for examples, blogs and social media stuff doesn't count). Are there any in-depth articles from magazines or books or newspapers? Onel5969 TT me 19:40, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- I think I see what you’re getting at, the Scottish Trauma Network cited document is a fairly detailed discussion of the service, cost benefit analysis and discussed PICTs role in training other advanced practitioners. Are you suggesting more citations similar to this are needed? Imaginarium Monkey (talk) 18:23, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Trying to Get Arrested
Thank you for reviewing my new page and for your comments.
- No worries, keep up the good work. (and remember to "sign" your comments with four tildes like this: ~~~~. Onel5969 TT me 19:36, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Valerie Ann Mah
I'm not sure why you've tagged Valerie Ann Mah with issues on notability. There multiple references on her from trusted and independent secondary sources including those from the City of Toronto, Canada's national broadcaster, and others. I plan to remove the tag in the next few days considering the significant coverage on Mah, if you have issues with this, please feel free to respond on my talk. -- Sjschen (talk) 16:54, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- Because the articles have to be independent, reliable and in-depth. Other than the obit in the Toronto paper, none meet those criteria. Onel5969 TT me 19:33, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Torre Archirafi
Hi, I've looked at WP:VERIFY but am still unsure on how to correct the citation issues. I've provided an additional citation on the page regarding one of it's historical structures if that helps. I've looked around at various Italian governmental websites but I assume due to the obscurity of the town that most documents related to it are likely locally-held or preserved through books and private documents. Is there anything I can do, within reason, to correct the issues? I don't live in the town itself but I do have family that lives there. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:580:C280:2720:6D57:6286:DF93:D21C (talk) 17:33, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
- You can't simply list a book, you have state specifically where in the book the information is located (same with newspapers, magazines, long pdf files, etc.). Hope that helps. Nice article, otherwise. Onel5969 TT me 19:35, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Okay, thank you. I appreciate the speedy reply, have a good day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:580:C280:2720:6D57:6286:DF93:D21C (talk) 20:08, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you!
For reviewing my pages! The Sokks💕 (talk) 15:47, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Precious anniversary
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- Thanks Gerda Arendt Onel5969 TT me 13:20, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Draft:Anastasiia Kotliar
I have added new sources in the Draft:Anastasiia Kotliar. Please review the draft. The Supermind (talk) 09:19, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks!
Hi, thanks for reviewing my articles! T. E. Meeks (talk) 12:12, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- T. E. Meeks, you're welcome! Keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 13:21, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm HeinzMaster. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Zdzisław Józef Porosiński, and have marked it as unreviewed. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.
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HeinzMaster (talk) 18:39, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- HeinzMaster, any particular reason? Onel5969 TT me 18:45, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969 It's nominated for deletion, once it clears that I will review the page as before.HeinzMaster (talk) 18:53, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- HeinzMaster, that's not a valid reason. At NPP, once an article goes to AfD, it should be marked as reviewed, since the AfD discussion will determine the ultimate outcome of the article. Only articles which are prodded or CSD'd should not be marked as reviewed, since the outcome is in doubt, and the article might still need to be reviewed. Onel5969 TT me 18:56, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969 Okay thanks for the info, will keep it in mind.HeinzMaster (talk) 19:02, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- HeinzMaster, that's not a valid reason. At NPP, once an article goes to AfD, it should be marked as reviewed, since the AfD discussion will determine the ultimate outcome of the article. Only articles which are prodded or CSD'd should not be marked as reviewed, since the outcome is in doubt, and the article might still need to be reviewed. Onel5969 TT me 18:56, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969 It's nominated for deletion, once it clears that I will review the page as before.HeinzMaster (talk) 18:53, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your page reviewing from WP:A&M
Just wanted to drop a note of thanks for your page reviewing on behalf of WP:A&M. You review far more anime and manga articles than any other new page reviewer (you have even reviewed 2 I created Blue Flag (manga) and City (manga), as well as one I helped influence (A Certain Scientific Railgun: Astral Buddy). Keep up the great work! Link20XX (talk) 19:07, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
UPE tags
Hello, you placed UPE tags on couple of articles I accepted. Can you guide me how do I identify if the article is UPE or not? And in which cases I should put this tag? Would prefer to be more aware on this. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 17:15, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- Nomadicghumakkad, absolutely, since this is an area I struggle in myself, so when I place a UPE tag, it has to be pretty blatant. Without knowing which ones they are, it probably means that there is a picture in the article, and if you click on the picture it will say it is the editor's "own work". That's a key giveaway to potential UPE. Another easy way is something in the editor's username which indicates a relation to the article's subject, but in those instances, it might simply be a fan, and I would normally tag them COI, rather than UPE. Hope this helps. Let me know. Onel5969 TT me 19:01, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- Definitely helpful. What you have deduced is actually common sense. I should have figured myself the picture thing at least. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 17:08, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- Nomadicghumakkad, it's something we cover in NPP School. But I've been doing this a loooong time. Thanks for your help reviewing, btw. Onel5969 TT me 18:45, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- Definitely helpful. What you have deduced is actually common sense. I should have figured myself the picture thing at least. Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 17:08, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- What is NPP school? How do I join? Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 05:10, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Nomadicghumakkad:, WP:NPPS -- Asartea Talk | Contribs 08:22, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- What is NPP school? How do I join? Nomadicghumakkad (talk) 05:10, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
Mark Elworth Jr.
FYI - See my edit https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mark_Elworth_Jr.&type=revision&diff=1022823536&oldid=1022432133
I think subject needs a fresh AfD, he may fail again, but it looks like he might make it this time. Jeepday (talk) 18:05, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
- Jeepday, no worries. Since I can't see deleted articles, I don't have any way of knowing how similar the new article is, so as a matter of course I throw up the CSD tag, so that one of you guys can take a look at it. If the tag gets removed, then I'll review it like I would any new article. The only times I don't do that is if the draft came through AfC, which is the appropriate avenue to create an article after it's been deleted through AfD, or if the AfD is over 5 years old. In the latter instance, If I don't see any notability, I'll speedy it again, but if I do see a chance, I won't. In this particular instance, the AfD was 4 years ago, so it was just under my threshold, hence the tag. I agree, they might pass an AfD now, but it would be close, imho. Onel5969 TT me 19:55, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Upajjhaya
Sorry, but really I don't know how to provide notability, but I can surely provide the sources. But you instead deleted the whole. Please you should have atleast try to talk with me or at least add a "problem with article" template above. Also, this was not a new article created it was a splitted article from another article . Please I think it should be added again. Please follow WP:PRESERVE JaMongKut (talk) 11:34, 13 May 2021 (UTC) JaMongKut (talk) 11:53, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
- JaMongKut, hi. I didn't delete the article, simply restored the redirect. Onel5969 TT me 13:14, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Britney's Dance Beat
Hello! I just wanted to say that I reverted the redirect move you made, as the game comfortably passes WP:GNG. You mentioned "one-line and simple blurbs". Yes, there are few sources like that (from what I checked, Game Informer and Maxim), but the rest are all non trivial coverage. Not to mention decent sized reviews in non-gaming focused media, like The Cincinnati Enquirer and Entertainment Weekly (dead link in the article but available at [8]). Jovanmilic97 (talk) 12:12, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Overlinking
Hi, was it you who linked all of those common words in "Boundary organization"? If not, I note that you didn't remove them. I've just spent 10 minutes doing so. Tony (talk) 08:32, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- Tony1, not sure why you would think that. An 8 second review of the page's history would have shown you that 2 years ago I removed a bunch of links to common words. Onel5969 TT me 03:34, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you from Canadian art!
You have been such a help. Thank you! When you have a chance, could you look at 1 more articles by me: Curtis Williamson. I confess I do feel better when I have your approval. Thanks again, Joan arden murray (talk) 19:03, 3 May 2021 (UTC) also, can you move articles on the internet? Walter Yarwood, I could hardly find the wikipedia article for all the dealers and it should be first. Someone put it with Painters Eleven, the group he belonged to. Also, I hate how when you put in Canadian Art, the article that comes up is Canadian Art magazine. Ouch! and I worked hard on Canadian Art for wikipedia. And I am sorry about ever touching my own article. I won`t do it again.Joan arden murray (talk) 10:46, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
- Joan arden murray, Other than the Curtis Williamson article, not sure what you are asking here. First, when you leave comments, please leave links to the articles in question, like I did with Williamson. That helps figure out what the issue is. Walter Yarwood appears to be an article, as is also the case for Canadian Art. Do you mean is there anything we can do to change the way they pop up on search engines? If that's what you're asking, then the answer is I don't think so. But I'm a ludite, so you might pose that question at WP:TEAHOUSE. Someone might know more about it there. Although on my search engine, Yarwood's article comes up first, and Canadian art comes up second, after the magazine. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 13:23, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, it does. Thank you. You have the patience of Job!Joan arden murray (talk) 14:40, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- Joan arden murray, well, you're definitely in the minority with that opinion, but thanks. Onel5969 TT me 18:34, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, it does. Thank you. You have the patience of Job!Joan arden murray (talk) 14:40, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Blackie Dammett
I've reverted your edit on Blackie Dammett. Please explain what is wrong with the article, and why you think it should be (only) a redirect. Kind regards, Saschaporsche (talk) 18:04, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
Nomination of 2020 United Wiffleball National Championship for deletion
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No new NPP School section
Hi Onel5969 it seems that when you reviewed the last section (images copyright) you didn't add a new section? -- Asartea Talk | Contribs 15:48, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Revert of Ashley Mizuki Robbins page
Hello. I just wanted to say that I reverted the reversion you made on my Ashley Mizuki Robbins article to it's old revert state, back to the article I wrote, as I feel like with the information and opinions I sourced that it comfortably passes WP:GNG. You mentioned it being "simple blurbs", yet I fail to see how. I admit the article is not worded as heavily as it could be at the moment, but deleting the thing due to that is absurd. And "trivial mentions"? I am not sure how a qualified game journalist considering Ashley one of the greatest females characters in gaming is "trivial", I also don't know how her impact on Japanese gaming culture in helping to cement the adventure genre into the mainstream populous is "trivial" either. Her character being so easily to relate to and surrogate onto was a fairly large part behind the modern resurgence of point-and-click games in Japan, as the article states and cites.
I mean no offence by pointing this out, but I notice that this whole "trivial blurbs and citing" is a problem other users have also had with you in the past. I don't want to make a hassle out of this, but if you honestly want to revert the page back to a redirect, can you go through a legit channel to do it, please? I feel comfortable in the page passing the standards for notability. Thanks. --176.250.33.49 (talk) 17:18, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- Hi. Yeah, other editors have difficulty with the truth sometimes. Reviews have to be in-depth and about the subject of the article, not simple mentions, or listings, or character descriptions in fan magazines. Onel5969 TT me 18:35, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
- Is what I've currently got cited on the page not note-worthy enough? As I feel like it is now, particularly with my latest additions. I grant you on their own, the other sources do not signify much, but I feel that Ashley's character being utalised in such a study due to her easy identity as a proxy, as signified by thye other sources, surely ties it together somewhat. Ashley's character is considered easy to relate to, and a good entry into video game narrative, to the point where this has been utalised by scholars. I think that makes her noteworthy enough of a piece of video game history in her own right, in my opinion. --176.250.33.49 (talk) 19:16, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Osten Ard
It's what's written and translated from German Wikipedia. I don't maintain it veificability in face of few resources and general Wikia resources of said Fantasy universes. Regards: Elan Morin Tedronai (talk)
- Elan Morin Tedronai - that's cool, and thanks for translating. However, there are two issues, first, if you're translating from a different Wiki, you need to give attribution to that site's article. Second, most other wikis have lower standards than English WP, as to what is notable, and as to WP:VERIFY. On En WP, sources must be provided, since we do not accept original research. English WP also has a policy that uncited material may be removed at any time, and then as per WP:BURDEN should not be re-added without providing valid citations which meet WP:VERIFY. Btw, don't know if you're a fan of the series, but I am. I think I've read it 3 times now.Onel5969 TT me 13:11, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
- OK. Why don't we return the article and give attribution? I'm fan. I own the books. I think there are reasonable amount of citations, but it's up to you. 89.25.63.188 (talk) 89.25.63.188 (talk) 22:19, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Elan Morin Tedronai - not sure if the unsigned ip comment above is from you, but if it is, here goes. The issue with simply restoring the article is one of referencing. I could move it into draftspace so that you could work on it, and make sure it also passes the notability bar as per WP:FICTION, in other words, that the sources aren't simply in-universe. Let me know if you'd like me to do that. Onel5969 TT me 23:45, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, it was me. Sorry. Did it from smartphone. I'll try to find good references. If you could restore the article and with me find some references it would be very cool. Regards: Elan Morin Tedronai (talk)
- OK. Why don't we return the article and give attribution? I'm fan. I own the books. I think there are reasonable amount of citations, but it's up to you. 89.25.63.188 (talk) 89.25.63.188 (talk) 22:19, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
2021-22 NBA season
Why Did You Redriect 2021-22 NBA season article for
Jérémie Laheurte
I believe I would vote to delete the article per WP:NMODEL. If you also believe the actor is not notable enough, we could try to delete it once more. Ron Oliver (talk) 19:31, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ron Oliver, typically, after I've returned an article like this to a redirect, I'll wait several days to let another NPP reviewer take a look at it. If by the weekend, no one else has weighed in, I'll afD it. Onel5969 TT me 02:20, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
Article to check
Som time ago, I did an article on Maia-Mari Sutnik and no one checked it. Could you look it over? It`s at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maia-Mari_Sutnik. Thank you,Joan arden murray (talk) 23:17, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
- Joan arden murray, hi again. It was reviewed back in early April by {{u|Ipigott}, and sure looks good to me. Onel5969 TT me 02:22, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks!Joan arden murray (talk) 02:24, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
KWDC-LP
Well, you never let me finish. Next edit, fully updated page. Would you like to retract that AfD? - Neutralhomer • Talk • 03:00, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- Neutralhomer, nope. You don't simply revert without improving the article. Onel5969 TT me 03:08, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- You did notice this, right? - Neutralhomer • Talk • 04:19, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- By the way, it wasn't a dePROD, it was an unredirect. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 04:39, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- Neutralhomer, yes I did notice, still doesn't pass bcast. And I never said it was a deProd, simply said you reverted without improvement. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 13:42, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- Actually, you did, in your AfD statement.
- Neutralhomer, yes I did notice, still doesn't pass bcast. And I never said it was a deProd, simply said you reverted without improvement. Take care. Onel5969 TT me 13:42, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- How does it not still pass NMEDIA? Has a license? Check. Carries it's own programming? Check. Can be verified as on the air? Check. Notable, passes NMEDIA.
- This is considered "improvement". - Neutralhomer • Talk • 19:59, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- Actually, no, that was to see if you had actually read the above section. Now I can say you have and you are intentionally not participating in the conversation. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 00:21, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
- Neutralhomer, what a maroon. No, it means that you have nothing cogent to add to the discussion, therefore I decline to participate, And with that, don't post on my talk page again. Onel5969 TT me 02:10, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
- Actually, no, that was to see if you had actually read the above section. Now I can say you have and you are intentionally not participating in the conversation. :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 00:21, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
- This is considered "improvement". - Neutralhomer • Talk • 19:59, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
Mary Elizabeth Branch
Hey talk:Onel5969, thanks for looking at this. I wish I had looked closer: boy it was borderline plagiarism. I wonder if anything should be revdeleted; maybe Diannaa can tell us that. Anyway, please have another look and see if the tag can go. Thank you so much. (I'm a bit embarrassed; no student of mine should have written like this, and I should have caught it.) Dr Aaij (talk) 03:11, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- Dr Aaij, thanks for the message. The issue is resolved, but let the CV guru, Diannaa take a look at it regarding revdel. I had already marked it "reviewed" as passing other new article criteria, it was just the paraphrasing thing which stuck out. Thanks for guiding new editors along the right path. Onel5969 TT me 03:15, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- I've done some more cleanup.— Diannaa 🇨🇦 (talk) 13:53, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- Diannaa, thank you so much. I had already marked it "reviewed", in anticipation of whatever you were going to do there. Onel5969 TT me 14:13, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- Diannaa, thank you so much. I am so sorry, and I am really embarrassed that I didn't catch it. It was the end of the semester, she wrote (well, "wrote") it in a day after I suggested it--the student really took the easy way out, and I just didn't spend enough time comparing it to the sources. Thank you--and you too, Onel5969. Dr Aaij (talk) 16:55, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
David Grigoryan (serviceman)
Hey Onel5969. Could you explain this? [9] Sincerely, Գարիկ Ավագյան (talk) 10:43, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- Գարիկ Ավագյան, no, that's why I tagged it for notability. Onel5969 TT me 13:43, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
"Death is a Bitch"
What seemed to be wrong with my revision of the page, it was a recreation of the original from scratch. --Scratchu90 (talk) 19:40, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
- Scratchu90, as I said in the edit summary, the issues which have existed for years still exist. Namely not nearly enough in-depth sourcing from independent, reliable sources to show it meets notability. You would need many more references regarding development, production and reception. Onel5969 TT me 13:51, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your response, I'll keep that in mind. Scratchu90 (talk) 21:25, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
- Scratchu90, no worries. Don't be afraid to ask questions if you're unsure of something. Although I see you've been on WP for a few years, you haven't done many edits, so sometimes it can get confusing. Onel5969 TT me 22:30, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
One more
Could you check https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_K._Prakash when you have time? Thank you, Joan arden murray (talk) 10:49, 19 May 2021 (UTC) Oops, I have to make some corrections.Too close to sources. I will tell you when it`s ready. Thanks for your patience.Joan arden murray (talk) 20:08, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
ANI
You are the subject of an ANI thread. Per ANI rules, I am required to alert you of this thread, which can be found here. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 04:00, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Polish football clubs in European competitions moved to draftspace
Hello, you've moved my article Polish football clubs in European competitions to draftspace. Can you elaborate on what sections need ref improvement. All of them base on the information available on Wikipedia. I added some refs but they seem to be a bit obsolete. Moreover, there are more articles in this category that also could be moved to draftspace, if you would treat them the same way. SandoLorris (talk) 14:44, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
- SandoLorris, I'll address your concerns in reverse order. Just because other articles which don't pass guidelines or policies is called WP:OSE, and isn't really a valid argument, although from a consistency point of view I agree with you. Now, the issue with your article, is that while you may have based it on other WP articles, you have to provide citations to show that the information is accurate as per WP:VERIFY. Since you've objected, I've moved it back to mainspace. Onel5969 TT me 01:40, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- I can see your point but do you require me to cite on every result which are already provided with citations in the linked articles? SandoLorris (talk) 07:05, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- SandoLorris, theoretically, yes. Hopefully there are some sources which will cover broad swaths of the info on the article, One of the policies of WP is that anything not cited can be removed at any time. If the cites already exist in the articles you brought together, simply cut and paste the refs, that would be suggestion. Look at what I did on List of RKO Pictures films. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 20:25, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
- I can see your point but do you require me to cite on every result which are already provided with citations in the linked articles? SandoLorris (talk) 07:05, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Article to read
I think the article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ash_K._Prakash is alright to read now. Thank you, Joan arden murray (talk) 15:55, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
- Appreciated you reading it! Joan arden murray (talk) 23:09, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Coming from Barkeep's tp .....
When I saw this. Tbh, I think they are correct. Celestina007 (talk) 12:09, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
- Celestina007, thank you kindly. And thanks for all your efforts on the project. Keep up the good work. Onel5969 TT me 20:26, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
Star Vijay Music
I know that you reverted edits done by me in Star Vijay Music because of AFD but how can I or anyone recreate the page? How to delete the page from AFD? The page is an important television channel and should not be deleted. Please tell how to delete the page from AFD. Thanks Bhu1147 (talk) 04:28, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
- Bhu1147, once deleted through AfD, if you wish to create the article, you need to go through the AfC process. Create the article as a draft, and submit it for review. And then be patient, their backlog is a bit long. Hope this helps. And don't be afraid to ask questions. Onel5969 TT me 13:35, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
Strange Tales/Strange Stories
Hi, are you able to help then, instead of just reverting back to the old revisions. I've been trimming the article and adding lots of new content too, it's just that the title ought to be Strange Tales since that's the more common translation, not sure how to work around the move. Thanks Kingoflettuce (talk) 13:59, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
- Or is it possible to delete the current redirect and move the page? Kingoflettuce (talk) 14:02, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
- Kingoflettuce, hi. You have to "move" the article, not cut and paste it, this is one of the hard and fast rules of WP. If the current redirect is blocking the move then you should ask to have the redirect deleted to make way for the move under G6. The you can move the title, to preserve the history for attribution purposes, leaving behind a redirect. Or, you can make a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves to have the page moved for you. Hope this helps. (was writing this when you made your second suggestion). Onel5969 TT me 14:05, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
- Doh, I tried to "move" it but was bl;ocked from doing so because of the redirect. Didn't think of attribution. Thanks! Kingoflettuce (talk) 14:08, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
- I wasn't sure G6 was a relevant criterion here too :P Kingoflettuce (talk) 14:09, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
- Kingoflettuce, yes, housekeeping. Simply state your reason in the space when prompted. I used to do it all the time. Onel5969 TT me 14:16, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
- I wasn't sure G6 was a relevant criterion here too :P Kingoflettuce (talk) 14:09, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
- Doh, I tried to "move" it but was bl;ocked from doing so because of the redirect. Didn't think of attribution. Thanks! Kingoflettuce (talk) 14:08, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
- Kingoflettuce, hi. You have to "move" the article, not cut and paste it, this is one of the hard and fast rules of WP. If the current redirect is blocking the move then you should ask to have the redirect deleted to make way for the move under G6. The you can move the title, to preserve the history for attribution purposes, leaving behind a redirect. Or, you can make a request at Wikipedia:Requested moves to have the page moved for you. Hope this helps. (was writing this when you made your second suggestion). Onel5969 TT me 14:05, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
List of Degrassi High episodes
All I did was split it's content from List of Degrassi Junior High and Degrassi High episodes. I did not personally rip anything from imdb and Amazon. Speedy deleting is overkill. You could have just given me a warning to change the article. ToQ100gou (talk) 23:49, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
- ToQ100gou, no copyright violations are not overkill. So what you did was incorrectly split from the other article? Without proper attribution? I might suggest you read WP:SPLIT on how to do it properly. Without knowing you split, there was no way to tell that there might be a mirror issue, so the action was appropriate. Onel5969 TT me 23:58, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
- "Do it properly": Many of the original editors of these articles are no longer active, and there seems to be nearly nobody currently active that is knowledgeable in this franchise, so there was no point in trying to start a discussion about moving that would go absolutely nowhere. That's why I've gone around and just done everything without discussion, because things can just get done. On top of that, I didn't know that the episode guide was ripped off from somewhere else. I didn't "incorrectly" split anything. I will recreate the page from scratch if I need to. I was only in good faith. ToQ100gou (talk) 00:14, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- ToQ100gou, who said anything about discussion? Please read the guideline provided. And stop with the attitude. Having said that, there is nothing wrong with starting a discussion and waiting for others to join in, maybe their are others who are watching the article, but haven't edited it yet. Onel5969 TT me 03:29, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- You abruptly had an article deleted whose issues I could have rectified. You could have at least moved it to draftspace and notified me that it needed improvement. Now in order to recreate the page, the entire episode table has to be recreated, something I do not know how to, nor even want to do. This was a very bad move regardless of the guidelines. ToQ100gou (talk) 03:49, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- ToQ100gou, not with a copyvio. Your edits were the bad move. Own up to them, understand your mistakes, and learn from them. And why does the table need to be recreated? If, as you say, you simply copied it from another article, it's still there. Onel5969 TT me 03:53, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- I feel like what I (indirectly) did is being insinuated as being of malicious intent. I didn't go ahead and say "yeah, I'm gonna violate copyright and I'm gonna do it for kicks" in splitting the article. That's what's annoying me the most and why I had "attitude". ToQ100gou (talk) 07:05, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- ToQ100gou, can't help how you feel. You came onto my talkpage with an attitude, rather than attempting to figure out what went wrong. Onel5969 TT me 13:09, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- I'd be wasting my time figuring out what went wrong because it was obviously wrong. Even though I had no ill intent and even though I wasn't actually the one who originally copy-pasted the copyright violating text in the first place. It was good faith. And the "attitude" is out of frustration. I have a lot going on in real life and this situation happened to tip me over the edge. I'm not really even angry at you. Just this whole thing. ToQ100gou (talk) 02:15, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- ToQ100gou, in a nutshell, if you split a page, first you should make sure that it meets one of the two criteria at WP:SPLIT, either size or content. If it doesn't meet either of those, then you should start a discussion on the talk page to gain consensus. If you open a discussion and there is no activity for a couple of weeks, then you could make a case that there is a tacit agreement to split (in other words, no one raised a complaint about you splitting). But if you do split an article, you must always provide correct attribution. For example, if there is an article about "Billy Bob", and it's very long, and has a filmography which lists 400 films, when you split the filmography into a separate page, you need to say in the edit summary, "Content split from Billy Bob, please see that page's history for attribution." This has to do with copyright law. This also helps other editors, and reviewers, to know to check the other page to make sure that if there is a copyvio, to check that page as well as to make sure it's not a WP:MIRROR. In this case, you leave a comment on the admin's page who deleted the article, explain that you split without attribution, and ask them to check to make sure the copyvio wasn't a mirror of the original page. If they do check, they'll restore the page. I'm not an admin, so I don't have access to the deleted page. Onel5969 TT me 02:43, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- I'd be wasting my time figuring out what went wrong because it was obviously wrong. Even though I had no ill intent and even though I wasn't actually the one who originally copy-pasted the copyright violating text in the first place. It was good faith. And the "attitude" is out of frustration. I have a lot going on in real life and this situation happened to tip me over the edge. I'm not really even angry at you. Just this whole thing. ToQ100gou (talk) 02:15, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- ToQ100gou, can't help how you feel. You came onto my talkpage with an attitude, rather than attempting to figure out what went wrong. Onel5969 TT me 13:09, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- I feel like what I (indirectly) did is being insinuated as being of malicious intent. I didn't go ahead and say "yeah, I'm gonna violate copyright and I'm gonna do it for kicks" in splitting the article. That's what's annoying me the most and why I had "attitude". ToQ100gou (talk) 07:05, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- ToQ100gou, not with a copyvio. Your edits were the bad move. Own up to them, understand your mistakes, and learn from them. And why does the table need to be recreated? If, as you say, you simply copied it from another article, it's still there. Onel5969 TT me 03:53, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- You abruptly had an article deleted whose issues I could have rectified. You could have at least moved it to draftspace and notified me that it needed improvement. Now in order to recreate the page, the entire episode table has to be recreated, something I do not know how to, nor even want to do. This was a very bad move regardless of the guidelines. ToQ100gou (talk) 03:49, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- ToQ100gou, who said anything about discussion? Please read the guideline provided. And stop with the attitude. Having said that, there is nothing wrong with starting a discussion and waiting for others to join in, maybe their are others who are watching the article, but haven't edited it yet. Onel5969 TT me 03:29, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- "Do it properly": Many of the original editors of these articles are no longer active, and there seems to be nearly nobody currently active that is knowledgeable in this franchise, so there was no point in trying to start a discussion about moving that would go absolutely nowhere. That's why I've gone around and just done everything without discussion, because things can just get done. On top of that, I didn't know that the episode guide was ripped off from somewhere else. I didn't "incorrectly" split anything. I will recreate the page from scratch if I need to. I was only in good faith. ToQ100gou (talk) 00:14, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Cazzie David
Hiya - quick one. You tagged Cazzie David for notability, the page creator removed it. I'm minded to AfD as most of the coverage is dependent on her father - what's your view? Had a couple of recent AfD flubs, so not perhaps as confident as I could be! :O) Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 04:25, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
- Alexandermcnabb, it's a close one, due to the father's influence. Without that, it's a clear cut case of not meeting WP:NACTOR. I never worry about the AfD outcomes, if based on policy, it should be nominated. I've had 20 or so AfD's be closed as keep simply as vote counts in the last few months, rather than on the policies. Can't worry about those. What I do hesitate about is borderline cases. Personally, I don't feel strongly enough about this one to nominate it. But that's me. If you don't feel strongly, don't nominate. But do feel free to re-add the notability tag. Onel5969 TT me 13:50, 24 May 2021 (UTC)p
- Yup, agree, on the balance of things. Thanks! Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 13:54, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Move of Sachin Gupta (academic) to draft
@Onel5969: Given Missvain's recent speedy keep closure at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sachin Gupta (academic) I am surprised to see your move of Sachin Gupta (academic) to Draft:Sachin Gupta (academic) for AfC. Can you please explain? Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 15:35, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- Djm-leighpark, absolutely, it was created by an UPE editor, who has now been blocked. As per discussion with the blocking admin, we've moved those pages to draftspace as per wp:draftify (segregating UPE). It's interesting though, usually there's a little note at the top of the page indicating that the page has been through AfD, and this one did not have that. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 15:43, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- As you were replying I noticed your UPE comment in the edit summary which I should have noticed earlier. Sorry for distubing you. thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 15:46, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- Djm-leighpark, no worries. We all miss stuff sometimes (Lord knows, I do). Thanks for your polite inquiry. And thanks for all your contributions to the project. Onel5969 TT me 15:51, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
- As you were replying I noticed your UPE comment in the edit summary which I should have noticed earlier. Sorry for distubing you. thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 15:46, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Happy Vesak!
WORKS San José
Onel5969, I am confused by your request for speedy deletion of the WORKS San José article. Nevertheless I have tried to address everything that may seem promotional. That is not the intention of the article. WORKS is a historical cultural institution that deserves documentation on WP. Please let me know how the article might be improved further. Thank you Maxmarsh2021 (talk) 16:40, 25 May 2021 (UTC)Maxmarsh2021
Speedy deletion nomination of David Litt (disambiguation)
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War in Iraq
Could you participate in the RM for War in Iraq (2013–2017)? Thanks Ridax2020 (talk) 09:02, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- Ridax2020, sorry, I really don't have the expertise offer my opinion non that move. Onel5969 TT me 14:54, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
L'Oréal
Hello,
Did you just erase an article with more than 15 specific sources in major news magazines and papers about the CEO of a 30 billions dollars company which employs 100 000 people? That looks bold... and not really constructive.
What annoys you on this page? It looks really common to me with no particular issue
Best,
Remi Mathis (talk) 14:47, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
- Remi Mathis, No. I redirected it. Other than the announcements of his promotion, not enough in-depth coverage about him to show that he passes GNG. CEO's, even of billion dollar companies, are not inherently notable. Onel5969 TT me 14:49, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Splitting pages
How should I do it the way it’s properly done? I did it to BKN as BKN International was a seperately operated company and BKN was just a children’s programming block. Luigitehplumber (talk) 12:17, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- LTPHarry, hi. First, there appear to be 2 issues here. The first is the more sticky, and that's whether or not a split is appropriate. The way the article, and sourcing, appear to make it is that these were all companies under one umbrella. I do think the current article should be renamed Bohbot Communications, which is now a redirect to BKN. I feel that since all the constituent parts were part of the parent organization, and if you have no objection, I will do that. If that occurs, then the article can be stand as written, since it would not appear to meet either of the two parameters for splitting (size or content). The Content fork would be the best argument for splitting, but I would suggest you start a discussion on the talk page to gain consensus for a split, which is the other way to split the article.
- Now, the second issue is simpler, when you do split an article, you must provide proper attribution in the edit summary, something along the lines of "Content was split from [[XXXXX]], please see that page's history for attribution." Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 12:27, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Okay. My original plan was to split the page into three standalone pages to begin with - One for the block itself (which I could rename as the Bohbot Kids Network, or keep as BKN), one for Bohbot Communications themselves and the other for BKN International, as they’re all technically different from one another.
Should I revert the BKN International page, or wait first? Luigitehplumber (talk) 12:40, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- LTPHarry, I think the question is are folks looking for this information better served by a single article, or by 3 short articles? My personal opinion is that normally, it's less clunky to have to go from one page to another if you're looking at the overall picture. But I think you should start a discussion on the article talk page, rather than here. Onel5969 TT me 12:48, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- And I already sent the BKNI page back to the main article. Onel5969 TT me 12:49, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Alright. I’ll go for that then. Luigitehplumber (talk) 13:40, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- I've edited the page a bit more now, but it still feels like a complete mess. It's gotten me thinking, a page like DIC Entertainment and DIC Kids Network aren't together because they're two different things, so why can't Bohbot, BKN and BKNI be the same? Bohbot was the parent company that distributed and produced programmes and ran the block, BKN/Amazin' Adventures was the syndicated block that aired the shows, and BKN International was the sucessor company that solely produced shows. Luigitehplumber (talk) 15:26, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- LTPHarry, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that they can't be separate articles, just that there should be a discussion to get consensus for that. Onel5969 TT me 15:31, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Now, that's gonna be a problem on my own behalf, as i'm sure nobody would even notice (as i've done similar things before), but i'll give it a try! Luigitehplumber (talk) 15:33, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- LTPHarry, that's okay if no one responds. After a couple of weeks, if there is no response, take it as unopposed, and go ahead with the split. But if you get several editors chiming in to split the article in the first week, that's even better. Onel5969 TT me 15:40, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Alrighty-O. That’s settled! Luigitehplumber (talk) 15:53, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- LTPHarry, that's okay if no one responds. After a couple of weeks, if there is no response, take it as unopposed, and go ahead with the split. But if you get several editors chiming in to split the article in the first week, that's even better. Onel5969 TT me 15:40, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- And I already sent the BKNI page back to the main article. Onel5969 TT me 12:49, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
I need some help with a round swap or whatever it's called. Can you move the page to Bohbot Entertainment? I read in the sources that Bohbot Communications only traded under that name until 1994, and it split into two, so I think it's best if it remains as Bohbot Entertainment to avoid any more confusion. Luigitehplumber (talk) 19:40, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- LTPHarry, done. Onel5969 TT me 19:44, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Once again, thank you. Just waiting for the day when I can finally split away the article, well that's if anyone accepts the splitting or nobody turns up.Luigitehplumber (talk) 19:49, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- LTPHarry, I looked at the history, and there is at least one editor who is relatively active. Also, it's not canvassing if you reach out to editors on the edit history page who have edited the article and ask them to vote (don't ask them to vote in favor
- that is canvassing). Also, you can post a notice of discussion on the talk pages of the projects the article is part of. One thing I've learned on WP is patience. Onel5969 TT me 22:05, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- How should I talk it through with editors who edit the page frequently? I don’t want to just pop up and randomly say stuff about the planned split, as that would seem awkward. Luigitehplumber (talk) 22:12, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- LTPHarry, do you know how to ping editors? If you don't, and you wanted to ping me you could simply type {{u|Onel5969}}. On the talk page where you've started the discussion, simply post something like, "Pinging potentially interested editors who have edited the page in the last 6 months, (then list the pings). A quick count, not including you or me (or the admin who simply protected the page), there are about a dozen editors. If even a quarter of them respond, that's good. Onel5969 TT me 22:23, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Of course I do know how to message users on their talk pages (I have been on the site for a long time!) but okay then! He he. Luigitehplumber (talk) 22:28, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- LTPHarry, do you know how to ping editors? If you don't, and you wanted to ping me you could simply type {{u|Onel5969}}. On the talk page where you've started the discussion, simply post something like, "Pinging potentially interested editors who have edited the page in the last 6 months, (then list the pings). A quick count, not including you or me (or the admin who simply protected the page), there are about a dozen editors. If even a quarter of them respond, that's good. Onel5969 TT me 22:23, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- How should I talk it through with editors who edit the page frequently? I don’t want to just pop up and randomly say stuff about the planned split, as that would seem awkward. Luigitehplumber (talk) 22:12, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- LTPHarry, I looked at the history, and there is at least one editor who is relatively active. Also, it's not canvassing if you reach out to editors on the edit history page who have edited the article and ask them to vote (don't ask them to vote in favor
- Once again, thank you. Just waiting for the day when I can finally split away the article, well that's if anyone accepts the splitting or nobody turns up.Luigitehplumber (talk) 19:49, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Daniel Post Senning
You wrote that there's not a single in-depth reference from a secondary, independent source
. Is there a reason that this (among others) doesn't count as precisely that? {{u|Sdkb}} talk 00:20, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- Sdkb, two small paragraphs, half of one of which is a quote from him... gonna have to say no on that one. But thanks for asking, and please keep up your good work. Onel5969 TT me 00:25, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
- It's a 3000-word profile split equally between him and the institute's co-director. The reporter met with him over dinner, quotes him several times, and gives biographical details about his upbringing in addition to his current work. Sorry, but I'm struggling to see how that is not quintessential SIGCOV. There were no notability concerns raised when this article went through DYK and appeared on the main page. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 19:02, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
A Woman (Qveen Herby album) deletion
Why did you delete the page? There was nothing wrong by with it. JuanGLP (talk) 02:15, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- JuanGLP, first I didn't delete it. I redirected it, which is following the policy set down by WP:NALBUM, which I said in my edit summary. Onel5969 TT me 04:19, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello
When you have time, could you review this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9on_Bellefleur? Thank you,Joan arden murray (talk) 17:33, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you!Joan arden murray (talk) 16:45, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Reviewing
I see you review some of my articles. As if you mind reviewing these articles I made Mel Pape, Korby Siamis, Wilford Lloyd Baumes, Stephen Warbrick, Ben Hartigan, Budd Grossman and Larry Harpel, if it's needs deletion, redirect, some others or if it's fine. I just think it has problems. Thank you. MoviesandTelevisionFan (talk 01:33, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
- MoviesandTelevisionFan, hi. I tend to go through the queue in order. Most of your articles are fine (if a little skimpy from time to time), occasionally I'll come across one which I think is a working actor, rather than a notable one. I especially appreciate your work in providing articles on Emmy winners. Onel5969 TT me 16:18, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Okay. Thanks for letting me know. MoviesandTelevisionFan (talk 20:42, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
A pie for you!
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I appreciate you reviewing my articles, whether it's suitable. As I learned more of Wikipedia of your reviewing. Thanks! MoviesandTelevisionFan (talk) 15:13, 30 May 2021 (UTC) |
Todd Piro article improvement thanks
Always great to receive props. Great to be wiki ing with you Sucker for All (talk) 20:12, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Ini Archibong Draft. Thank you!
Thank you so much for taking the time to respond to explain proper protocol to me. It is much appreciated. I'm happy to hear that you are intrigued by Mr. Archibong's aesthetic. I would hate that the public would not have the opportunity to learn about Mr. Archibong's practice because of my mistake and ignorance about Wikipedia practices. Please find answers to your previous questions below.
1. What is your relationship to User:Electriclamb? I do not know Electriclamb or have any relationship. I only discovered the existence of Mr. Archibong's Wikipedia page a few weeks ago. 2. I'm assuming you're the ip editor who removed the prod tag, correct? Yes, correct. I didn't understand why that tag was placed there and foolishly assumed it was an error. 3. Do you have any relationship with User:LuGgcy? Yes, she is my colleague. As Mr. Archibong is in the Visual Arts field, I asked her to assist in uploading visual content to Wiki Commons thinking this would also offer more context into Mr. Archibong's approach and notable projects Katelovesdesign212 (talk) 18:29, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Mike Yeardon
I think its a reverse copyvio. Check the dates, check the phrasing. That would indeed have been an easy way to deal with it, but... DGG ( talk ) 00:52, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- DGG, thanks. I picked out the wrong date on the source page. Onel5969 TT me 02:38, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello again!
Could you take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Clapham_Sheppard when you have time. It needs to be categorized. I tried some categories - might there be more? Joan arden murray (talk) 10:42, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
- Joan arden murray, hi. It looks okay. There are folks who specialize in adding cats, but I'm not one of them. I know basic categories, and some specialization in the areas where I create articles (film, NHRP, geo places, and film bios). On your preference page, there's a tab called "gadgets". On that page, in the "Editing" section, there's a gadget called "HotCat". I find that very useful in figuring out cats sometimes, as it autopopulates as you begin to type. You might activate that. Onel5969 TT me 17:12, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you! Will do!Joan arden murray (talk) 17:38, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Your edit : Broadway Stakes (NYB) moved to draftspace
All Thoroughbred racing in the United States is governed by state gambling laws. Hence, there is only one legal source for referencing those races, that being the racetrack proprietor who holds the gambling license. In the case of the Broadway Stakes, it is owned by the New York Racing Association (NYRA) and all information contained in the Wikipedia article on the Broadway Stakes is derived from the referenced NYRA. Note that in this case the NYRA is a government entity owned by the State of New York. In articles where there might be information not covered by the track owner, i.e. comments about the events during the race that the jockey moved too early etc., or a comment that the horse had not run for two months due to an injury, or the winner lost for the first time in four starts, and more. Those comments come from the media and are referenced at Wikipedia to reputable sources such as the Daily Racing Form, Thoroughbred Daily News, the New York Times, Blood-horse magazine and the like. Further, Equibase Co., LLC is an official source having been authorized as such by racetrack owners plus by licensed breeders for pedigree records. However, Equibase Co., LLC only document races back to 1976 and in a great many cases the races created at Wikipedia go way past that to times as early as 1860. Note too, there are defunct/discontinued races from long ago, many of which are because the racetrack closed or were forced to close through state anti-gambling legislation such as the Hart-Agnew Law. For these historically important Wikipedia articles, we use very reliable sources as references. I hope this helps but I think it would be a lot easier for you and others who work hard to ensure quality for Wikipedia but who don't have in-depth expertise on this particular subject to leave a question on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Horse racing where someone knowledgeable will certainly answer it. Kindly reverse your edit. Thanks. Stretchrunner II (talk) 20:30, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
trans fat article
I saw your comment in your revert. There was a discussion and vote in 2020 to keep "trans fat." See here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fat
It was merged anyway despite the large consensus against merger. I announced a month ago I would restore it, there was no opposition, so I did so.
If you have a problem with this, please engage with my points and those made by the many others who opposed the merger, who are a large majority of those who commented.
Declanscottp (talk) 23:57, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Help me review page
Hello sir! Onel5969 Please i will love if you can help review this page Aderonke Dairo, she is a well known Nigerian politician, contesting for a big post in the goverment, to avoid impersonation of her identity because of scammers in Nigeria ````
- Hi Deplug1. First, please do not forget to sign your comments with 4 tildes, like this: ~~~~. Second, I'm not sure of the notability of that individual, so I'll leave it for other reviewers to take a look at. Personally, I don't think that currently she does meet the criteria. If she gets elected, that would make her notable. Am pinging my go-to editor for Africa articles, Celestina007, to see what they think. Onel5969 TT me 17:19, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Onel5969, O1, thank you for the notification, not only is the rationale behind the article creation invalid or sound, it is also conflict of interesting editing. Celestina007 (talk) 17:33, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- Celestina007, thanks, as always. Onel5969 TT me 17:47, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Onel5969, O1, thank you for the notification, not only is the rationale behind the article creation invalid or sound, it is also conflict of interesting editing. Celestina007 (talk) 17:33, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Deletion of wandile Sihlobo article
Please I will like if you get to review the wandile Sihlobo page as it gets to meet with the wikipedia guideline for creating an article. Thanks Johnfelix1234 (talk) 18:09, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Johnfelix1234, hi. Not sure how to make this article's subject notable. What you would need is several in-depth articles about the individual, from independent, reliable sources. Prior to nominating it for deletion, I was unable to find any. Sorry. If you can find them, please add them to the article, and then let me know. Onel5969 TT me 17:23, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Italian Rinnovamento article
This is not a mickey mouse article, this is my article, which I created, it is not vandalism. the definition of a new historical movement is something complex, not perceptible in the present. You don't like it, you don't agree but why the fuck do you want to delete it if it is supported by reliable and certain sources. This is not a game or an article made to play, by the way it must be expanded anchored to the sources. --Peter39c (talk) 00:38, 4 June 2021 (UTC) This article cannot be attributed to a WP: CRYSTAL, because the origins of this renewal are in the present and partly already in the past with laws and decrees issued by the Italian government on the action of the European Union. The main reference is Draghi's speech to the Italian parliament, a speech of hope, the beginning of a new historical course. --Peter39c (talk) 01:14, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- Peter39c, Do not use that language on my talk page. Removing AfD tags from articles is vandalism, and will get you blocked, so I suggest you desist. Stay off my talk page.Onel5969 TT me 04:57, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Need some help again
Could you move the Fox Sports Soccer '99 page to the Actua Soccer 2 redirect? I'm currently editing pages based on video games produced in the UK and the game i'm requesting to move has it's US title. I know I can do a request on the page i've forgotten the name to in this term, but the page that does so is very complicated and confusing. Sorry if i'm being a bit of a pest, but I know well that you can do that thing.
Oh, and for updates on the Bohbot page, i've forgotten to inform anybody who frequently edits on that page about my idea for a three-way split. Luigitehplumber (talk) 14:30, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Speedy deletion note on TolumiDE
I had zero chance to address the tag before it was deleted! Left reason on article talk page and cannot find deleting editor now.--A21sauce (talk) 16:01, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- A21sauce, with articles which meet speedy criteria, which this one did, there is no need to "address the tag". The time to contest the tag is when you create the article, and avoid the reason it was speedied. In this case, this article had been deleted as per a deletion discussion. Your recreating it is grounds for speedy deletion. If you feel the subject material now passes notability criteria, the proper procedure is to create the article in draftspace, and go through the AfC process. You've now recreated a blank article for some bizarre reason and left a commentary in the edit summary, "Unclear how "a page where the author of the only substantial content has requested deletion and/or blanked the page in good faith." " However, not sure where you came up with that, since the speedy notice you received clearly said it was a G4 deletion, with the detail that it was a recreation of a deleted article, and provided a link to the deletion discussion. Onel5969 TT me 17:07, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania (album) Redirect
Hello! I see that you reviewed the article I wrote about the Macronympha album Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I notice, though, that in place of the article I wrote there is now just a page redirect to Macronympha. First, were you the editor that replaced the album article with a page redirect? And if so, I think I understand why this was done, but could you clarify your reasoning? --Joeyvandernaald (talk) 18:02, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
- Joeyvandernaald, hi. I turned it into a redirect, citing WP:NALBUM. Other than the Hutson source, there really isn't in-depth coverage about the album from reliable sources. Several of the sources are simply blogs, therefore not reliable. The Audio Drudge is a simple listing in an all-inclusive guide, similar to having a listing on All Music. They are all-inclusive, so therefore don't really show notability. If there were a couple of more in-depth reviews from reliable sources, it would pass. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 22:19, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Reverted edits on micronationalist
Hello, you reverted my edits on the page Niels Vermeersch, this article is part of the recently updated "notable micronationalists" on the page micronations. The old page in 2017 had almost no content or sources and was redirected to the page of the micronation, this time the page is simular like Travis McHenry and Kevin Baugh . Any suggestions to improve the article? Thank you! --Delle89 (talk) 16:52, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Delle89, what you need is in-depth sourcing about him, not the micronation. And interviews don't count towards notability. Hope that helps. Onel5969 TT me 22:23, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
After Journey
I hope you checked the sources before simply deleting my work for a simple redirect. He is notable enough, there are long articles detailing his career and should my Chinese be more fluent, I could have expanded it with more details. Albeit that would take a hundred hours using a dictionary. It's a worth a stub. Xia talk to me 17:22, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Draft:DR Class V 60
Hello Onel5969,
I notice that you recently moved DR Class V 60 to draft-space.
I am completely at a loss to understand why you did this, as you left nothing but the standard boiler-plate.
The article is not a stub (18 kB), is notable (there are photos from Commons), and has references. It is also part of a group of articles on East German diesel locomotives.
I would not have spent a considerable amount of time translating this from de.wikipedia if I did not think that is was main-space quality from the start.
As I object to this move, could you please undo it, and move the page back to main-space.
Thanks in advance – Iain Bell (talk) 13:50, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Iain Bell, moved back. It was moved to draft, since it's been tagged for improvement for over a month without any effort made to improve it. While notability isn't a question, WP:VERIFY does come into play. I felt that it was the best option to give the article creator (you) a chance to improve the citations, since any unsourced information can be deleted at any point in time. In this case, that would gut the article. I felt that you had put a lot of effort in, and gutting it would not be appropriate. This happens a lot on articles translated from other Wikis, since most other Wikis do not have the same standards as the English WP. Please make the necessary corrections to the article. And thanks for your contributions to WP. Onel5969 TT me 14:57, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
List of Peabody Award winners (2020–2029)
I noticed the link for the Peabody award winners for this decade redirects to the main Peabody page. What did I do wrong? I was wondering because the Peabody winners for 2020 will be announced this month and I was planning on including them once they are revealed. Will you be able to reinstate the article later? David Matoushek (talk) 21:59, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- David Matoushek, there was zero content in the article. It's simply redirected until there can be information added. Onel5969 TT me 22:15, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
OK. Thank you for clarifying.
An Institutional winner has been announced. Can you put the link back up so that I can add said winner?
- David Matoushek - I was going to do it and tell you that you could have done it yourself, but you already have. Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 21:20, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Philanthropy
When you get a chance, could you check this article, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mrs._H._D._Warren? Thank you, Joan arden murray (talk) 22:03, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Joan arden murray, hi. I'm having difficulty with the notability of this one. The first reference is solid, but the second one is weak, and the other three are useless for notability (one is a primary source, and the other two are non-reliable - pinterest and ancestry). Onel5969 TT me 21:27, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Okay. I will do more work. Thank you,Joan arden murray (talk) 21:34, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- I`ve fixed it now, I hope. Take another look. Is she notable enough for wikipedia? Thank you for telling me. Don`t mind if it`s not. I am learning. If she isn`t notable enough, should I take it down? Joan arden murray (talk) 21:58, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Okay. I will do more work. Thank you,Joan arden murray (talk) 21:34, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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For revieweing my articles! Thank you! Princess of Ara(talk) 18:23, 7 June 2021 (UTC) |
- Thank you, Princess of Ara. Onel5969 TT me 03:25, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
The Chronicle of the Fallers
Why did you revert? I tried compiling most of A Night Without Stars and The Abyss Beyond Dreams before recompiling it. It's following the same formulation behind Void Trilogy. Aren't you happy with it? Regards:Elan Morin Tedronai (talk)
- Hi Elan Morin Tedronai - because what you did is called a "cut and paste move" which is not allowed on WP. Please see WP:CUTANDPASTE. It has to do with attribution and copyright rules. Onel5969 TT me 03:24, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
@Onel5969:: Can't we incorporate some material into it from other sites, but preserve the core of the Chronicle of the Fallers with the cover images? Without WP:CUTANDPASTE but without WP:REDIRECT? Like in the vein of Void Trilogy? Regards:Elan Morin Tedronai (talk)
- Well, it looks looks like we can do one of two things. Option one, create an article on the second book; or option two, change the article on the first book into an article on the two-book series, and incorporate both books. In the first option, I would leave the title of the series as a redirect to the first book, and simply create the second book's article (assuming it passes WP:NBOOK). If you wish to do the second option, I can "move" the article into the title of the series, and then you could work on expanding it to included the second book. Let me know. Onel5969 TT me 21:38, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- In 1 article The Chronicle of the Fallers to concentrate all from say A Night Without Stars and I and why not you try to work on expanding it and include the second book without WP:CUTANDPASTE. Like it's with Peter F. Hamilton's Commonwealth Saga and Void Trilogy. Like on every saga from this sci-fi space opera branch as Foreigner Universe, Alliance-Union Universe, Vorkosigan Saga, Deathstalker series, Ender's Game series, Hyperion Cantos and Saga of the Skolian Empire. They don't have article on every single book. The Night's Dawn Trilogy might be exclusion since it's well around 3 thousand pages and probably deserves such general article of the series which is quite comprehensive. But we can work on the The Chronicle of the Fallers: concentrate the novels' synopsis there and covers even ISBNs there. Regards: Elan Morin Tedronai (talk)
- Well, it looks looks like we can do one of two things. Option one, create an article on the second book; or option two, change the article on the first book into an article on the two-book series, and incorporate both books. In the first option, I would leave the title of the series as a redirect to the first book, and simply create the second book's article (assuming it passes WP:NBOOK). If you wish to do the second option, I can "move" the article into the title of the series, and then you could work on expanding it to included the second book. Let me know. Onel5969 TT me 21:38, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Midkemia and Kelewan
Can you help me find good references? Almost everything in Google is fandom page and most results refer to Crydee.com and Midkemia.Fandom. Can you help me find good references and move these articles back to the featured ones or at least working ones? Although, yeah: the information is from these sites for sure. But we can find them somewhere else or credit and refer to at least Crydee.com, although most is in form of FAQs. Regards: Elan Morin Tedronai (talk)
Osten Ard
Most of the information is translated from the German Wikipedia, but we can find references apart from "Memory, Sorrow and Thorn Fandom" Wikia. They are nice, but no fan-sites can be sited as references here. We can find surely some references up there apart from fandom information. OstenArd.com would be good for sure. Regards: Elan Morin Tedronai (talk)
Removing Redirect on Aap Kaa Surroor (album)
Hi, I don't know why you redirect the page without any valid reason. But, I am going to remove redirect of this page and improve this page. This page should deserve an independent article. KungfuPanda2008 (talk) 12:24, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Shira Ruderman
Hi - you claimed the Shira Ruderman page wasn't sourced well enough. I disagree - there are many secondary, independant sources used throughout the page. If you have a question about a specific claim flag it, not the entire page.Kalman (talk) 16:07, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Kalman, I didn't tag it for not being well-sourced I tagged it for dubious notability. Onel5969 TT me 23:38, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969, Indeed, however the reasons for fixing dubious notability, are - and I quote from the box - "demonstrate the notability of the topic by citing reliable secondary sources that are independent of the topic and provide significant coverage of it." This page has multiple sources, and I see no reason to keep the tag on the page. Kalman (talk) 05:20, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- Kalman, multiple sources by themselves are irrelevant. It is the quality, depth and independence of the sourcing. Onel5969 TT me 13:33, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969, Obviously. Seeing as she has a page in another language, and that all the facts in the English version are sourced from legitimate, objective sources talking about her activism and contribution to society, I see no reason to tag it for dubious notability. I'd appreciate your reasoning for doing so.
- Kalman, multiple sources by themselves are irrelevant. It is the quality, depth and independence of the sourcing. Onel5969 TT me 13:33, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969, Indeed, however the reasons for fixing dubious notability, are - and I quote from the box - "demonstrate the notability of the topic by citing reliable secondary sources that are independent of the topic and provide significant coverage of it." This page has multiple sources, and I see no reason to keep the tag on the page. Kalman (talk) 05:20, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Bladee 333 album/redirect
Hello there. I saw that you (I think quite reasonably) reverted my changes that turned the redirect at 333 (Bladee album) into an article of its own. I was busy with things outside of Wikipedia at the time, and so didn't include as many sources or as much detail as I should have. Would you object to my reverting it back and adding the sources and information that I have since found? Swadge2 (talk) 09:02, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- Swadge2, absolutely no objection. Happens all the time. I have no objection to any article as long as it passes WP:GNG and WP:VERIFY. Thanks for asking. Onel5969 TT me 13:35, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
John B Judkins Company moved to draftspace
You have set the following message with the above title to my Talk page:
An article you recently created, John B Judkins Company, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Onel5969 TT me 14:16, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
However, I did not create the article entitled John B Judkins Company. On 16:18, 7 May 2021, I redirected John B Judkins Company to John B. Judkins Company to add a period after the letter "B". I therefore suggest that you inform the creator of the article entitled John B Judkins Company of your concerns and actions. Corker1 (talk) 15:14, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Robert (Bic) Bicknell (talk) 07:30, 13 June 2021 (UTC) I have updated and extended the article on George Fitzsimmons and replaced the redirrect. Does the article now meet the standards. If not, can you explain what needs to be done, please?
George Fitzsimmons improved and reinstated -
Robert (Bic) Bicknell (talk) 07:35, 13 June 2021 (UTC). I have updated contents and references for George Fitzsimmons and over written the redirect. While I anticipate it conforms to requirements, please advise me if it is deficient and what I need to do to address the deficiencies. Robert
- Robert (Bic) Bicknell - the company may very well be notable, but currently it is not sourced well enough to be in mainspace. What you need is several in-depth articles about the company from independent sources. Hope that helps. Onel5969 TT me 14:18, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Robert (Bic) Bicknell (talk) 08:33, 14 June 2021 (UTC) The organisation was a Not for Profit Friendly or Mutual Society that was one of the driving forces behind the Federation of the Australian Colonies into the Commonwealth of Australia. It was also involved in other social betterments. Some of the things they proposed I do not agree with nonetheless it is part of their history. There is a book being published this year by Monash University Press by two notable Australian historians that I have seen some advanced chapters from. There are other publications about the ANA and its key people. I am happy to build on these. However I have been critisised before for using physical references and not having material this is accessible on line. Bic
"Billy Bob Thompson" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Billy Bob Thompson. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 13#Billy Bob Thompson until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. 108.56.139.120 (talk) 14:11, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Richmond Primary School - proposed deletion
Hello Onel5969
Richmond Primary School is one of many South Australian primary schools with a Wikipedia page. The school foundation stone was laid in the the presence of three future Premiers of South Australia and a world renowned wine maker. Part of the school is also heritage listed. If you consider deletion of this page is warranted, then the same principle should be applied to all of primary schools in South Australia with their own Wikipedia page. I am in the process of collecting more information on the history, notable students and staff. I'd be interested in further thoughts on why it should be deleted. kind regards. Reflexio (talk) 08:49, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Reflexio, feel free to nominate any of those others for deletion. Primary schools are rarely notable. Onel5969 TT me 18:03, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Emanuel Admassu
Hi I joined Wikipedia recently to create more diversity, inclusion and equity for black designers and black architects on this platform. The subject (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emanuel_Admassu) who's article you propose to delete accomplished to be appointed as a professor at Columbia University, win several awards and has his work exhibited a the MoMA. All of this is well documented in the reference section.
There are only 2% of architects who are black in the United States and even less who teach at an Ivy League school. The architecture profession has along history of denying access to the black community which is mirrored in their lack of representation within publications, magazine, exhibitions, museum and news articles. So, when you ask for more 'in depth' coverage, there is not much available because of a historic and continuous issue on equity. You will see that all sources are 'real' sources from accomplished institutions as well as the New York Times or ArtForum who are considered independent sources reporting on the topic.
It would be great if the Wikipedia community can actually support to create real equity so there is black representation within the discipline of architecture. Our voice and decisions can make a difference. Soupmaker (talk) 15:40, 14 June 2021 (UTC)Soupmaker
- Soupmaker, when I look at articles, I do not care of the race, gender, ethnicity, etc. of the subject. The issue is simply whether or not they meet WP's notability criteria. For what constitutes that see WP:GNG. Now, in some special instances, like in the academic fields, there are guidelines called SNG's, which also help. That one would be WP:NACADEMIC. Unfortunately, Admassu does not seem to meet any of the criteria for either. Onel5969 TT me 18:02, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, but it is not as simple as you make it sound here. I was thinking that way (let's not look at race, gender etc and treat everyone equal) before as well, and don't get me wrong, it is very noble, until I realized that we are actually supporting systematic racism with this kind of process. What we need to do is create equity so subjects like this have a voice, platform and are represented and included. Anyhow, I don't want to accuse you or anything so thank you for bringing up WP:NACADEMIC which is very helpful since the subject clearly meets some of these criteria such as well:
-The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources.
(As noted in the article subject is part of the 'Black Reconstruction Collective' which aims to bring black community inclusion to the discipline of architecture. Their work is shown at the MoMA and they have been invited to give numerous talks across many academic institutions to discuss their work and research. I just added a series of public talks and interviews to the article which showcases that this subject has clearly significant impact in their scholarly discipline by being invited to talk about their work.)
- The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level.
(the subject won a major award from Rice University -as referenced)
So, would be great if you can have another look at this and see if this fits your reading of the criteria as well. If you still feel strongly to delete the article on the subject please go ahead, but thank you for your time and effort. Soupmaker (talk) 19:32, 14 June 2021 (UTC)Soupmaker
- Sorry, it actually is that simple. If they were in the permanent collection at MoMA, that would be different, but they aren't. Onel5969 TT me 20:13, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:Crescent Ballroom
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In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:06, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
AN/I
Please see this. For some reason you were not notified despite also participating in the AfD. Polyamorph (talk) 23:04, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Polyamorph, thanks for the ping. However, I don't think there's any reason for me to comment there. It was clearly canvassing, imho. But that's what it is, simply a humble opinion. I personally think it's silly to waste time at ANI over something like this. The closing AfD admin would address the canvassing issue. Onel5969 TT me 01:02, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- That's precisely how I feel. Thanks for the sanity check re: Canvassing. Polyamorph (talk) 05:42, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
- By the way, the only reason I pinged you was because the admin who opened the ANI thread claimed they notified all participants of the AFD. But they missed you...Polyamorph (talk) 06:33, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
You may be the subject of this discussion
A user has started a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Potentially_biased_editor. You may or may not be the subject of the discussion. I am not sure, but ANI rules require people to be notified if being discussed. HighInBC Need help? Just ask. 06:10, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
ANI report
I escalated your recent behavior to ANI for resolution. Soupmaker (talk) 06:13, 18 June 2021 (UTC)Soupmaker
Link here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Potentially_biased_editor — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soupmaker (talk • contribs) 06:15, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Some baklava for you!
Saw you mentioned somewhere. Just sending some good vibes. --- Possibly (talk) 20:53, 18 June 2021 (UTC) |
A barnstar for you!
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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar |
For over 479,000 edits on Wikipedia I award you the Tireless Contributor Barnstar! Looking forward to when you break 1,000,000. HighInBC Need help? Just ask. 09:21, 19 June 2021 (UTC) |
- Thanks for the sentiment, HighInBC, as well as your input at the recent ANI discussion. Onel5969 TT me 22:29, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Draft:Spacehey
Hi Onel5969! Yesterday, you moved my Article Spacehey to Draft:Spacehey. Unfortunately you did not notify me as the rules for moving Articles into draft space require. Would you like to tell me what the reason for the moving was, please, so that I can fix possible problems? Thank you! Halbschwabe (talk) 19:40, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Halbschwabe, actually I did notify the author, which is required. You are not the author. You contributed to the article. But in answer to your question, the sourcing is terrible. Virtually every ref is either a primary source or a non-reliable source. There is not nearly enough in-depth sourcing from independent, reliable sourcing to show it passes WP:GNG or WP:CORPDEPTH. Everything sourced by social media like twitter needs to be removed. My advice is to go through the WP:AFC process, as that will help you develop the article. And by the way, it's not YOUR article, please readWP:OWN. Onel5969 TT me 22:28, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for the quick answer! You notified the author of a former version of the article that has been deleted (which indeed isn't shown in the revision history for some reason). I created the page by myself and I wrote an translated the current version of the article (nearly) all by myself. And of course I do know that I do not own that article but I guess we both knew what I meant with "my article", right? Regarding the sources: All twitter sources are just related to simple facts like the number of users or the used programming language, so I guess adding "according to company sources" should fix that.
Bookmarks
Read the Bookmarks page first. There are reviews there that indicate notability. Thanks. Therapyisgood (talk) 03:10, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
DWBA-FM
Hi, I want to ask you that if its okay to add this 1 reliable source on DWBA-FM, [10]? You were the last admin who reverted the article as redirect because it does not meet gng. SeanJ 2007 (talk) 03:31, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
- SeanJ 2007, hi. Two things, first, I'm not an admin, second, that source does not even mention DWBA, so no, it would not be appropriate. Onel5969 TT me 14:38, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Draft: Mila Inc.
Dear Onel5969,
Could you please detail what is exactly missing during the disclosure or show an example where it is done correctly? I have the disclosure both on the talk page of the article and on my user talk section. I am new to Wikipedia and really unsure what would be missing at this point.
Best, Christoph
- The disclosure is fine. Now the article must be reviewed. Onel5969 TT me 13:44, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Okay thank you!! Let's see.
Macdonoghville vs. McDonoghville
Hi, regarding your revert of the cut and paste move of Macdonoghville to McDonoghville. I dropped the ball on requesting a History merge, but a straight page move won't work because both pages have a history. McDonoghville is the correct spelling and Macdonoghville appears only in the article title (not the text, nor the sources). I will revert your reversion and add a {{Histmerge}} tag. Carter (talk) 13:37, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Today is the day
In your wisdom to decide to unilaterally redirect the song you’ve redirected it to the wrong album, pal Hildreth gazzard (talk) 18:51, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hildreth gazzard, really? Cause then the one without wisdom would be the person who created the article and stated that the song came from that album. Pal. But looking at the album it redirects to, it states that title on its list of songs. So not really sure what your point is. Onel5969 TT me 19:57, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
List of programs aired by A2Z (Philippine TV channel)
Hi, I saw your reverted reason at List of programs aired by A2Z (Philippine TV channel), it is not duplicate. I transfer it there because the broadcast article is full and needs less edits (removing former programming and current and aquired programming are remained). SeanJ 2007 (talk) 09:00, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, no it simply duplicates info on the other page, no reason for a separate article. Onel5969 TT me 12:53, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- There is a reason, I did this because the former programming of a network will be continued updating and the broadcast article will be full and needs less spacing. This is also the same as List of programs aired by Kapamilya Channel, [[List of programs aired by GMA Network, etc. So, If you will approve this, I will revert on what I did on List of programs aired by A2Z (Philippine TV channel). SeanJ 2007 (talk) 05:02, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- SeanJ 2007, you don't need my approval. What you do need is to gain consensus. And to do that you need to open a discussion on the talk page to get consensus to split the information from the article to a new article. Once you gain consensus, then you follow the guidelines on how to split an article over at WP:SPLIT. Be aware it can take several weeks for consensus to be reached, so patience is warranted. Onel5969 TT me 11:51, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- There is a reason, I did this because the former programming of a network will be continued updating and the broadcast article will be full and needs less spacing. This is also the same as List of programs aired by Kapamilya Channel, [[List of programs aired by GMA Network, etc. So, If you will approve this, I will revert on what I did on List of programs aired by A2Z (Philippine TV channel). SeanJ 2007 (talk) 05:02, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Reverted Kāla/Kaal
Hello. You reverted the manual move I did to rename Kaal to Kāla. The title of the page is supposed to be Kāla in accordance with both the article's content and the precedent set by every other article of this sort. As I explained in my edit, the move tool does not permit an automatic move thereby apparently making the normal procedure impossible. I therefore don't see how else the article title can be corrected. I'd appreciate if you could explain how I'm supposed to rename the page to the more appropriate title if not by doing it manually. Scyrme (talk) 20:11, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- Scyrme, you have 2 ways to go. First, request the current redirect to be deleted (you would do that through RfD), and once it's deleted, you would move the current article to the title you think it should be. Or, second, you could put in a requested move over at WP:REQMOVE. What you are doing is called a cut and paste move, see WP:CUTANDPASTE, which is not allowed. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 01:18, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Bassano Vaccarini
There are plenty of unsourced oneliners, eg. Indian Klan pages, but you attack a sourced article. Please explain me your logic. Is globo.com unreliable? Grupo Globo (English: Globo Group), formerly known as Organizações Globo[4] (English: Globo Organization[5]), is the largest mass media group of Latin America. Xx236 (talk) 05:58, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Xx236, I didn't "attack" anything. WP:OSE is not a valid argument. The article was moved to draft because it does not currently meet either WP:GNG or WP:VERIFY. Currently there is only one in-depth article about him (focusing on the sculpture garden), the others are a very short piece, a simple listing, and a non-reliable source (the latter 2 being added after it was draftified. The article had been tagged for improvement for over a month without any work being done on it. If you come up with at least one other in-depth source from a reliable, secondary reference, as well as sourcing for his academic and theatrical assertions made in the article, that's when it meets GNG and VERIFY. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 12:11, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Greetings and an help for Alberto Magliozzi
Good morning to you, I am writing to greet you and to know how you are. I am quite well for now, I am writing to ask you for help with the page of Alberto Magliozzi, the much appreciated and respected glamor photographer. I wrote down a few lines, but I ask you for help if you can, right and no more than 10 minutes of your precious time. Looking forward to hearing from you I wish you a good day and a greeting from Calabria.--Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino (talk) 12:32, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino, hi there! Not sure what you're asking from me. Another editor has already looked at the article and marked it as reviewed, but it does need copy editing. Onel5969 TT me 00:31, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Good morning to you, sorry my bad English. I ask you to help make the page more understandable, take your time. I tried to translate it and do something clean, but as I often do, I ask for help from those who have linguistic and technical skills greater than mine. Looking forward to hearing from you I wish you a good day and thank you for everything.--Luigi Salvatore Vadacchino (talk) 06:13, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
You have got to be kidding me!
Some schmuck decides to cut and paste the Douglas C-47's wiki page to sell their die cast toy on eBay and you think that means that the R4D8 article is plagiarized because it has some of the same text? Why not vandalize the C-47 article instead since it's so obvious that the article is plagiarized from an eBay listing? Snowdawg (talk) 20:06, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Snowdawg, from what you've just written, I am assuming that your assertion is that Douglas R4D-8 contains content that was copied from Douglas C-47 Skytrain, and which had also been copied prior to your creation of the former article by one or more websites, resulting in Onel inadvertently flagging is as a copyright violation? Feel free to correct me if I've got the wrong end of the stick, but I'm not seeing any attribution there - are you familiar with the requirements of copying from other Wikipedia articles? Doing so without proper attribution is indeed a copyright violation. Please explain the situation properly and I'll try to tidy things up if I can. Girth Summit (blether) 20:17, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Pickclick is a site that scans auction websites like eBay. Someone on eBay was selling a toy "Band Of Brothers" die cast model so they decided to copy the wiki article for the Douglas C-47 and use that article to market their auction. Click on the see more arrow anything familiar? https://picclick.fr/Skytrain-C-47-Dakota-D-Day-Airborne-Band-of-Brothers-143061609080.html Now you're saying that I plagiarized an AUCTION website because part of the text from the C-47's wiki page was used to describe the development of the R4D8? Why would I have to list the C-47's wikipage as a source when ALL of the original sources are ALREADY attributed in BOTH articles? So now you're scanning the HyVee Shopper these days looking for plagiarized material? Are you going to flag EVERY article with the words "lost dog" as being plagiarized because you saw it in the HyVee shopper? Congratulations on winning the knee jerk reaction prize!Snowdawg (talk) 22:31, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Snowdawg, I don't understand what you're saying here: less invective, more explanation please. Did you copy content from Douglas C-47 Skytrain (or some other article) in order to expand content at Douglas R4D-8? If the answer is yes, please just say so, and explain what happened. Copying content from one Wikipedia article to another without attribution is a copyright violation, which needs fixing - I'm not going to block you, or delete the article, but I do need to understand what has happened. Feel free to drop me a note on my talk page, rather than carrying on with it here - Onel hasn't done anything wrong, as far as I can work out, he's just identified and flagged a copyright violation which you and I are currently trying to resolve. Girth Summit (blether) 22:56, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Girth Summit, thanks for the input. It's fine to keep the conversation here. I'd kind of like to know how it turns out. And Snowdawg, there is no way for a page reviewer to know that text has been copied from another WP article unless attribution has been made. That's kind of why it's a copyright violation. And accusing other editors of vandalism is a pretty serious offense on WP. You should be careful about that. Onel5969 TT me 00:27, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- Take a look at these three screenshots. The first shows the Pickclick search that I supposedly plagiarized from. It's for a die cast model of a C-47 on eBay. If you click on the "see more" link in blue at the bottom right corner it takes you to the English wiki page for the Douglas C-47 which is the second screenshot. I have no idea why Pickclick would link to the wiki article for something sold on eBay? So it's a circular reference. Of course there's going to be the same text because the Pickclick page links back to the C-47's wiki page. As for the text that was removed it's clear that nobody even bothered to look at the text that was removed to figure out if it was properly cited because there are plenty of citations in it. See screenshot three. If you're using some kind of automated internet search program "copyvios" to look for plagiarized text it isn't any good. It shows you're putting zero though into whether the text is a copyright violation or not. Instead you're placing all your faith in a stupid tool.Snowdawg (talk) 12:18, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- Snowdawg I'm going to ask this one more time, as simply as I can: did you copy text from the C-47 article into the R4-8 article? Girth Summit (blether) 06:25, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- The development sequence is like this DC-2 > DC-3 > C-47 > DC-3S > R4D8/C-117. The R4D8/C-117 was developed from the civilian DC-3S or "Super DC-3". The DC-3S had a new tail, new wings, lengthened fuselage, new engines, and enclosed landing gear. The DC-3S weren't entirely new aircraft they were 75% new aircraft. Customers could send Douglas a DC-3/C-47 and they would convert them to DC-3S standards. The R4D8/C-117 were US Navy C-47s converted to DC-3S standards and given the designation R4D8/C-117. You can't describe the evolution of the R4D8/C-117 without mentioning the C-47 and DC-3S. Just like you can't describe the 1900s without mentioning the 1800s. There wasn't a World War II without a World War I. WHY WOULDN'T I be able to take what's already documented in the C-47 article describing the DC-3S and modify it slightly to include its relationship to the R4D8 if ALL of the ORIGINAL sources for the C-47 article are cited? I'm not removing or obscuring ANY of the original citations from the C-47 articel. In fact I am adding content and citations. So you're telling me that I need to make a citation of a citations citation? So I can't use ANY of the same wording from the C-47 article such as (new tail, new wings, lengthened fuselage, new engines, and enclosed landing gear) because it was used in the C-47 article? If that's the case please feel free to delete the article. Also I'm not the ONLY person to edit that article. Why not harass the other contributors? Snowdawg (talk) 11:57, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Snowdawg I'm going to ask this one more time, as simply as I can: did you copy text from the C-47 article into the R4-8 article? Girth Summit (blether) 06:25, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Snowdawg, I don't understand what you're saying here: less invective, more explanation please. Did you copy content from Douglas C-47 Skytrain (or some other article) in order to expand content at Douglas R4D-8? If the answer is yes, please just say so, and explain what happened. Copying content from one Wikipedia article to another without attribution is a copyright violation, which needs fixing - I'm not going to block you, or delete the article, but I do need to understand what has happened. Feel free to drop me a note on my talk page, rather than carrying on with it here - Onel hasn't done anything wrong, as far as I can work out, he's just identified and flagged a copyright violation which you and I are currently trying to resolve. Girth Summit (blether) 22:56, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
- Pickclick is a site that scans auction websites like eBay. Someone on eBay was selling a toy "Band Of Brothers" die cast model so they decided to copy the wiki article for the Douglas C-47 and use that article to market their auction. Click on the see more arrow anything familiar? https://picclick.fr/Skytrain-C-47-Dakota-D-Day-Airborne-Band-of-Brothers-143061609080.html Now you're saying that I plagiarized an AUCTION website because part of the text from the C-47's wiki page was used to describe the development of the R4D8? Why would I have to list the C-47's wikipage as a source when ALL of the original sources are ALREADY attributed in BOTH articles? So now you're scanning the HyVee Shopper these days looking for plagiarized material? Are you going to flag EVERY article with the words "lost dog" as being plagiarized because you saw it in the HyVee shopper? Congratulations on winning the knee jerk reaction prize!Snowdawg (talk) 22:31, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Snowdawg, I don't appreciate your tone: I can only assume that you have not read what I have actually written above, or followed the link I gave you in my first post. Nobody is saying that you can't take material from one article to another: I'm telling you that when you do that, you have to provide clear attribution. This is a strict requirement of our creative commons license, and of our WP:COPYVIO policy. Attribution also prevents situations like this from arising. So, for what I hope will be the last time: did you copy content from one article to another? If the answer is yes, tell me which diffs were the addition of content from another article, and I will fix the attribution problem for you. For future reference, please read WP:CWW so that you understand how to do this properly in future. Girth Summit (blether) 12:47, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Why would anyone claim I plagiarized text from a shady auction site crawler like picklick? I already showed you in the screenshots that I put in my commons temporary directory that Pickclick linked to the wiki page for the C-47 and that's why some text matches. Why they did that I have no idea!
Here's what I took directly from the C-47 article: Design and development During World War II, the armed forces of many countries used the C-47 and modified DC-3s for the transport of troops, cargo, and wounded. The US Navy designation was R4D. More than 10,000 aircraft were produced in Long Beach and Santa Monica, California, and Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. Between March 1943 and August 1945, the Oklahoma City plant produced 5,354 C-47s.
Here's what I modified slightly: Variants YC-129 DC-3S prototype for evaluation by USAF redesignated C-47F and later passed to USN as R4D-8X. R4D-8 Remanufactured R4D-5, R4D-6, and R4D-7 aircraft with stretched fuselage, Wright R-1820 engines, fitted with modified wings and redesigned tail surfaces; redesignated C-117D in 1962. R4D-8L R4D-8 converted for Antarctic use with deleted oil coolers, ski landing gear, nose mounted weather radar, and JATO gear redesignated LC-117D in 1962. R4D-8T R4D-8 navigation trainer, redesignated TC-117D in 1962. R4D-8Z R4D-8 converted as a staff transport, redesignated VC-117D in 1962.
So the question is how many different ways can I reword "R4D-8 navigation trainer, redesignated TC-117D in 1962." without being dinged for copyright infringement? If you're claiming copyright infringement based on Google searches that's really dumb because searches propagate to other search engines and links are made for unrelated items. That doesn't mean I copied copyrighted text from fifteen different sites. Which brings me back to my whole "knee jerk" reaction argument. You can't flag EVERYTHING that matches a search criteria as copyright infringement without understanding the context of what the search produced. Like I said earlier that would be like claiming that the wiki page for Robinson Crusoe is a copyright infringement of the HyVee Shopper based on the words "lost" and "dog". I really don't see the point of citing a wiki article that already cites another published source? Because that's a citation of a citation. Snowdawg (talk) 13:47, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Snowdawg, I don't know why I keep needing to repeat myself. I will try again:
- Nobody is saying that you cannot copy material from other Wikipedia articles; sometimes, that's a really useful thing to do. However, when you do it, you must provide attribution, showing which article the content comes from. That is a firm policy-based requirement, since it is needed to comply with the license we release our content under.
- A side benefit of providing attribution is that it allows New Page Reviewers like Onel to be able to work out that something has not been copied from a website in cases where it is the website that has actually been copied from us. We don't flag EVERYTHING that matches an internet hit - we flag newly-created content which matches websites which predate the creation of the content, and only when there is no attribution that would let the reviewer know that the content has come from a pre-existing article.
- It is too much to expect reviewers to look at the websites and see whether they can work our whether the content was lifted from a pre-existing article. The onus is on you to follow basic policy, and provide attribution whenever you copy anything from an existing article, allowing reviewers to see that it's not a violation. Onel was following well-established good practice when he added that tag - nobody is harassing you, this situation has arisen because you failed to follow the guidance at WP:CWW.
- I see that another administrator has put a notice in an edit summary, linking the source for the original content. If you indicate that you have now understood why this situation has occurred, and that you will undertake not to copy content without attribution again, we can draw a line under this and move on. Girth Summit (blether) 15:25, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
Branko Pantelić
Hello, Onel5969,
Please do not tag pages as CSD G5 unless the page creator and primary contributor is a confirmed sockpuppet. In this case, the page creator was cleared in the SPI case. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 03:08, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
- Liz, apologies. On the NPP queue, there appeared a warning that the article had been created by a blocked user, and then when I checked that editor's page, there was a warning about sockpuppetry. Obviously, I did not read it carefully enough and took it to be a block for sockpuppetry, rather than a simple suspicion. Onel5969 TT me 13:44, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
Good evening and question on Foodporn
Hello One15969, I see you reverted my changes on foodporn and sent the page back to food_porn. Not sure if you realized, but they are 2 separate things - the concept and the company. I see that GeneralNotability made the redirect over a year ago, however the company has several notable articles since this time, including from Forbes at https://www.forbes.com/sites/eveturowpaul/2020/11/23/restauranteurs-look-to-australia-for-a-guide-on-surviving-a-winter-lockdown/?sh=696f4865279a, which I included. Did you check these before putting back in the redirect? Kind regards Hamilton677 (talk)
- (talk page stalker) articles by Forbes Contributors are not considered reliable, since basically anyone can register as a contributor and write content, which receives very little in the way of editorial oversight. See the Forbes entry at WP:RSP for more on this. Girth Summit (blether) 10:40, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Yes I did. And the current sourcing consists of primary sourcing, non-reliable sourcing, dead links, and simple mentions. In 3 of the references Foodporn is not even mentioned. This is not the in-depth sourcing from independent, secondary, reliable sources needed to meet WP:GNG or WP:CORPDEPTH. Onel5969 TT me 13:11, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969, Hi again. There were certainly no dead links as I take care to check those, and I didn't know about Forbes contributor articles. Are any Forbes articles considered reliable as they are obviously a big company? Is there any way you can put the article back into draft as I can't seem to find the text as you deleted it all with the redirect. Thanks Hamilton677 (talk)
- {u|Onel5969}} yes I just saw User:Girth Summit's comments on Forbes contributors, thanks for that. Can you please put the article back into draft as it seems you have deleted it entirely by putting in the redirect and I can't see any way to save the draft unless you can see it elsewhere. Thanks Hamilton677 (talk)
- Done. Moved to draft space, you can find it at Draft:Foodporn. Onel5969 TT me 02:56, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
@One15969: Thanks for that. If and when some new, notable articles are written about the subject, I'll make the necessary amendments. If not, it can stay in draft. Have a great weekend. Hamilton677 (talk)
Info
Hi onel, i've already remake the articles Wanyang Budaebuin....If you don't mind, could you please look and check into it? Ningsih ODINN (talk) 11:06, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Ningsih ODINN, hi. No, not interested in looking at new articles you create until you clean up the hundreds of articles you've created in the past. Many have been tagged needing improvement for well over a month, and you continue to ignore the tags, making work for other editors. Might I suggest you focus on those before going on to create more articles. Onel5969 TT me 12:34, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
Syres’ Bolyaien’
Hello! Please tell, what are the comments to the written article Draft:Syres’ Bolyaien’? What exactly should be changed in it?--Тарас Дем'яненко (talk) 13:05, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Тарас Дем'яненко, hi. Please WP:UPE. Onel5969 TT me 22:05, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- Excuse me, are you sending me to the Paid editors page? I do not write an article about myself, or about my boss, or about my friend. Explain how this applies to me?--Тарас Дем'яненко (talk) 07:33, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
- Тарас Дем'яненко, if what you say above is true, how do you explain that you are the person who took the picture of the article's subject used in the article? Onel5969 TT me 12:30, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
- Because I am a political scientist, I study the national movements of the Finno-Ugric and Turkic peoples. I attend events, scientific conferences, take photos of various politicians - it does not mean that I am a friend of all these people. --Тарас Дем'яненко (talk) 20:06, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
- Тарас Дем'яненко, if what you say above is true, how do you explain that you are the person who took the picture of the article's subject used in the article? Onel5969 TT me 12:30, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
- Excuse me, are you sending me to the Paid editors page? I do not write an article about myself, or about my boss, or about my friend. Explain how this applies to me?--Тарас Дем'яненко (talk) 07:33, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
User:Miamiaim
From a brief perusal of Special:Contributions/Miamiaim, this may be a sock of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sidowpknbkhihj. There's a similar obsession with earthquakes and aviation incidents. I'm not familiar with this case at all, so I'm not comfortable filling a sock report. Could you take a look? Thanks. BilCat (talk) 21:01, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
- BilCat, hi there. Not sure it's a sock. I did a comparison of them and the sockpuppeteer's last 3 socks, see here, and they have no articles in common. The comparison with the sockpuppeteer does reveal one hit, see here, but I'm thinking this is just a coincidence. Onel5969 TT me 22:01, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
List of Smile PreCure! characters and List of HappinessCharge PreCure! characters
Can you explain why you redirect them as per WP:SPLIT and why did you oppose the split? SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 17:23, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
- SpinnerLaserzthe2nd, as has already been explained, does not meet WP:SPLIT, which also explains my opposition. Onel5969 TT me 18:59, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
WP:PROD
Hi, per WP:PROD it should have remained for seven days. I'm surprised you didn't check this. NemesisAT (talk) 13:08, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- NemesisAT, I'm surprised that you don't know that prods only need to remain in place for 7 days for the article to be deleted. Prods are routinely removed at any point during the prod process by changing the article to a redirect. This is a form of objecting to deletion, which is allowed at anytime. Onel5969 TT me 13:13, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- WP:PROD does not appear to state that turning an article into a redirect is an objection to deletion. Apologies if I've missed it. NemesisAT (talk) 14:12, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- NemesisAT, doesn't have to explicitly state it. It's common sense, and it's also consensus through historical activity. It essentially removes the prod, which is, by definition, an objection. Onel5969 TT me 14:23, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969 Sounds like you're bending the guideline retrospectively to suit your actions. If it's consensus through historical activity, why has that never been added to the guideline any time between 2007 and now? NemesisAT (talk) 18:43, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- NemesisAT, no, simply stating a fact. This happens quite frequently, and you're lack of AGF is somewhat surprising. When you do work at NPP you see it at least several times a week. Onel5969 TT me 19:44, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969, I'm struggling to assume good faith when I put effort into restoring an article and you tried to remove that without any discussion, quoting policy that simply doesn't exist according to the relevant policy page. In unrelated matters, the new "reply link" feature isn't working on your talk page. Would you be happy to remove the custom borders to see if that's what is breaking it? The reply link tool improves accessibility, so it's a shame it doesn't work on your page. Thanks NemesisAT (talk) 19:55, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- NemesisAT, no, simply stating a fact. This happens quite frequently, and you're lack of AGF is somewhat surprising. When you do work at NPP you see it at least several times a week. Onel5969 TT me 19:44, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969 Sounds like you're bending the guideline retrospectively to suit your actions. If it's consensus through historical activity, why has that never been added to the guideline any time between 2007 and now? NemesisAT (talk) 18:43, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- NemesisAT, doesn't have to explicitly state it. It's common sense, and it's also consensus through historical activity. It essentially removes the prod, which is, by definition, an objection. Onel5969 TT me 14:23, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- WP:PROD does not appear to state that turning an article into a redirect is an objection to deletion. Apologies if I've missed it. NemesisAT (talk) 14:12, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Mohamed:IT
This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page. (Learn how and when to remove these template messages) This article needs additional citations for verification. (June 2021) I want to you help me to fix this? I fixed many parts but I dont know why it still hereMohamed IT (talk) 14:46, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
- Mohamed IT, I have no idea what you're talking about. Onel5969 TT me 19:44, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
look my page Degodia clan and tell me what is wrong about it You put template This article has multiple issues. Please help improve it or discuss these issues on the talk page one issue was the orphan page so I linked to many related pages I fixed orphan also I added many reliable sources look my page please so I will fix it type (Degodia clan) you will see
- Mohamed IT - it needed more references in order to pass WP:VERIFY, which seems to be mostly satisfied now. The History section could use more footnotes. Also, be wary of WP:CITEBOMB, you only need one or two citations, in several areas you've put multiple. I also broke out the extra sourcing you included at the end. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 12:41, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Mohamed:IT I corrected the errors now take a look bro.
- Mohamed IT - looks okay now, except for the citebomb issue, have removed the tag. Nice job. Onel5969 TT me 00:07, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- Mohamed:IT I corrected the errors now take a look bro.
- Mohamed IT Bro I wanted to rename the page from Degodia (Clan) to just Degodia so the people will find easier but I tried to rename the page but moved and it become redirect so help me rename
- Mohamed IT I have seen that wikipedia when you rename page it just creates a redirect page with different name people will in see google search degodia clan but when they enter they see Degodia
So can you please make the page to its original name with no different name before my two tried moves.
Ivette Román-Roberto
Hi. I have added two additional references to the article Ivette Román-Roberto that you tagged, including a page from the National Association of Latino Arts and Culture website and an article from the Houston Press, in addition to the seven I included in the article previously. Is this sufficient to address your concerns about notability and additional citations? There are now nine sources.--Lawrlafo (talk) 01:47, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Lawrlafo, hi. It's not the number of references, but the quality and source of those references. Notability is about in-depth (significant) coverage from independent, reliable sources. The two new sources do not add either. The NALAC piece is not independent, and the mention in the Houston Press is not in-depth enough. If the Press article had been entirely about her, that would qualify, and then if you could come up with one or two more like it, than that would work. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 12:46, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969, thanks. I will try to identify more in-depth sources. I believe source number 5 does meet the criteria of being in-depth, independent, and from a reliable source: it is an academic article by a professor, published by an academic press. (Platón Lázaro, Lydia. "Screaming Soundscapes: The Sounds of Puerto Rican Contemporary Performance in the Work of Teresa Hernández and Ivette Román." In The Body, the Dance and the Text: Essays on Performance and the Margins of History, edited by Brynn Wein Shiovitz. Jefferson, North Carolina: McFarland, 2019. ISBN 1476671893)--Lawrlafo (talk) 14:39, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Contesting Speedy Deletion
Hi Onel5969,
You recently tagged the stub modern day missions I created with a G11 speedy deletion tag. The article was written from an unbiased, neutral opinion and I would like to see if you could give me a more detailed explanation to why you have flagged it with the unambiguous advertising or promotion tag? It is written almost identical to countless other Christian organization stubs, SEND International & Pioneers and again is written from a neutral point of you with various sources. G11 also states, "Any article that describes its subject from a neutral point of view does not qualify for this criterion." I kindly ask you to retract your tag and provide me feedback to how I can improve it to your liking. I love contributing to religious articles, stubs and I would like to do my best for these. Kstorts11 (talk) 03:24, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Kstorts11, that article has now been deleted twice for advertising. And to be deleted it has to be tagged for deletion (which I did), and then actually deleted after review by an admin. Which was also done. The article was clearly promotional in tone. The two articles you point to are simply factual in nature. One of them might not be notable, and definitely is not sourced enough. Hope this helps. Onel5969 TT me 12:52, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
Deprodding of Rachel Wolfe-Goldsmith
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I am removing this PROD on the grounds that in the prod statement, her organization might pass WP:GNG. If that's the case then there should be some discussion on the talk page on potentially moving the article to draft space and re-making it as a different page. Or, potentially putting it up for AfD. --Tautomers(T C) 06:57, 29 June 2021 (UTC).
Proposed deletion of DiJonai Carrington
Not sure where to put this, but I'm not sure why DiJonai Carrington was proposed for deletion. Per WP:NBASKET, players who have appeared in the Women's National Basketball Association meet WP:NBASKET. Carrington has played in the WNBA per her profile. Therefore, she meets WP:NBASKET and the page should not be deleted. I tried to look for a deletion discussion, but couldn't find one. If you could direct me to such a discussion, I would appreciate it. Swimmer33 (talk) 17:29, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
- Swimmer33, actually, the link to her profile you provided shows that the page doesn't exist. Because she hasn't played in the league yet. If she does play in the league, you'd be correct. Onel5969 TT me 00:04, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- She has played in the league this season multiple times. This link right here: https://www.wnba.com/player/dijonai-carrington/#/career shows that she has played in the league, 13 games (and counting) and is also currently on the Sun roster. Which would make her qualify for the WP:NBASKET requirements. Is there another reason for proposed deletion that we are missing? Wnbafan11 (talk) 05:27, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Wnbafan11: Passing WP:NBASKET does not automatically make a person notable, rather it means that the subject is likely to have the significant coverage needed to pass WP:GNG. Like their NBA counterpart, most WNBA players usually pass WP:GNG with ease. That is the case with Carrington, as there is ample coverage on her available on the internet, something that a simple and short WP:BEFORE would have shown. I added a few sources and deproded the article. Alvaldi (talk) 10:13, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- She has played in the league this season multiple times. This link right here: https://www.wnba.com/player/dijonai-carrington/#/career shows that she has played in the league, 13 games (and counting) and is also currently on the Sun roster. Which would make her qualify for the WP:NBASKET requirements. Is there another reason for proposed deletion that we are missing? Wnbafan11 (talk) 05:27, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
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Kevin Clinesmith
Thanks for the note. I don't recall the details on that page as to when and why I was editing it. Possibly something connected to some vandalism? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:33, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- Baseball Bugs, no worries. Since it's deleted, can't check history, but you may have created a redirect subsequent to the AfD discussion. In that instance, the auto tagging program might have recognized you has the "article creator". Onel5969 TT me 14:35, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks - that sounds vaguely familiar. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:39, 30 June 2021 (UTC)