- I've reviewed my actions, and I've concluded that the whole "jumping-between solutions" thing is actually a violation of WP:FLOUNCE—I was, apparently hoping for some "don't go" messages at that time.
- Dare I say, the community and the administrators acted quite well—they offered me advice and "don't be so hard on yourself" messages, which eventually led me to come back in a quiet fashion.
- At this point, I'm not even going to retire, semi-retire, take a wikibreak, request a block, or anything like that. I'll just stay here and take the stigma.
- I cannot ask for the community's forgiveness at this moment in time—the incident was too recent. I know that Wikipedia has several policies telling you to drop the matter and forget it all happened, but we cannot deny history.
- I will close off this little comment with some apologies—courtesy apologies to Cabayi, Catfish Jim and the soapdish, Blablubbs, Peter coxhead, TheresNoTime, and Writ Keeper. No irrelevant apologies here.
- Finally, thanks to the community for your everlasting inclusion. It has been, and still is, a great honor. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 02:45, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
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To all who see this
Please forgive me for my mistake. Unfortunately, I’ve realized that I have gone too far. Because of this, I must retire.
To admins
Please revoke every single user right I have ever had. I have no intent on coming back to this project with a minimum of 1 month. Most likely, I will still read and lurk.
To the community
Condemn me to the stocks, but also realize that I’ve vanished.
To stewards
Rename me accordingly and don’t regret anything you do.
Thank you, Wikipedia, for helping me become a better person.
I shed a tear as I leave. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 15:15, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Unvanished
As you have continued to edit after taking a WP:Courtesy vanishing, including the creation of a userpage prominently advertising the username you wanted to be vanished, I have undone the vanishing. Cabayi (talk) 16:04, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
@Cabayi — In that case, I’ll leave this account be… I’ll return after a long, protracted absence. Thank you for your time. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 16:07, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- Do realize that retiring and vanishing are not synonymous. WP:Courtesy vanishing is not compatible with "I’ll return after a long, protracted absence." Cabayi (talk) 16:12, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- I really don't want to block you, and I'm sorry that you've had TNT do it for you. I'd rather you accepted that you made a mistake, learnt from it, and became a better editor because of it, rather than running away from it. We all make mistakes.
- You're bouncing from one "solution" to this situation to another "solution" within minutes without taking the time to consider what you're doing. What could have been resolved by a few days to calm down and think things through is now a 6 month situation, for no good reason. Cabayi (talk) 16:30, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Self-block request
Hi—please review our policy on self-requested blocks. If you would like to request one, please reply to this message with the duration you wish to be blocked for. I will also revoke talk page access (but not email access) -- TNT (talk • she/her) 16:19, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
6 months, autoblock disabled, no TPA, no account creation. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 16:20, 2 March 2022 (UTC)If you cannot grant that, it is fine. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 16:20, 2 March 2022 (UTC)- As requested, I have blocked you for six months — logged at User:TheresNoTime/Self-requested blocks#3PPYB6 -- TNT (talk • she/her) 16:29, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Advice
Hello, 3PPYB6,
You made a mistake, a big mistake. We all do that. But it was repaired. Now you have requested a self-imposed 6 month block.
If you change your mind about the block some time down the road, please use email to have a discussion about lifting the block. Do not create new accounts. Doing that will lead you into sockpuppetry which will be much harder to get yourself out of. I know it's difficult to face that you made a mistake (I have made a share of my own errors), but don't let it lead you into further behavior that will be much more difficult to undo.
Take a complete break from Wikipedia as you will be tempted to edit if you spend a lot of time here which would violate your block. You don't want one mistake lead to an even bigger mistake which you can not as easily come back from. Good luck with your break. Liz Read! Talk! 18:11, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, and don't be so hard on yourself. Nothing was broken irreparably. It was all back to normal in like five minutes. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 18:22, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Unblock discussion
Hi 3PPYB6, we received your UTRS request (#55475). I've re-enabled your talk page access, but I'm a little hesitant to unblock you just yet. Although this was a self-requested block, the disruption caused prior to it was heading in the direction of a "block for cause"—I'm not just talking about the mistake, but the aftermath too. Like many editors, I've failed to keep my cool plenty of times, but a certain amount of self-reflection really is required, and I don't want to be back in a similar situation a few months down the line. -- TNT (talk • she/her) 21:26, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Cabayi and Blablubbs: courtesy ping -- TNT (talk • she/her) 21:27, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- @TheresNoTime — It was semi-block for cause, I agree… I had partially requested to be blocked because of what I had done. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 21:27, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- I had specifically stated for you to only unblock me if you wanted to. If you decide not to, I will simply wait and let the block expire. I’ve done too much on this project… — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 21:29, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- I disagree, you were heading towards a block with the jumping between solutions—you definitely weren't at the point of needing a block. You're not the first to make a mistake like this, and you won't be the last! 🙂 What I need is for you to take a deep breath, relax, and listen to what we're saying. You're no longer in trouble, it took minutes to fix, but you can't really go running off every time you make a mistake -- TNT (talk • she/her) 21:33, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- @TheresNoTime — What I had wished for was to be temporarily blocked because of “vandalism” or “disruptive editing”… after all, I did (unintentionally) vandalize about 100 pages… you do realize how crazy that is, right? — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 21:36, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- And for clarification, the disruption itself (massRollback) did not merit a block, but the “vanishing, retiring, semi-retiring” thing was what would have escalated it. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 21:37, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- And, for clarification, I should follow @Catfish Jim and the soapdish — Don’t be so hard on myself. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 21:59, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- Just take it slow, okay? 🙂 -- TNT (talk • she/her) 22:06, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- @TheresNoTime — Alright, and 2 comments/questions:
- Just take it slow, okay? 🙂 -- TNT (talk • she/her) 22:06, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- And, for clarification, I should follow @Catfish Jim and the soapdish — Don’t be so hard on myself. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 21:59, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- And for clarification, the disruption itself (massRollback) did not merit a block, but the “vanishing, retiring, semi-retiring” thing was what would have escalated it. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 21:37, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- @TheresNoTime — What I had wished for was to be temporarily blocked because of “vandalism” or “disruptive editing”… after all, I did (unintentionally) vandalize about 100 pages… you do realize how crazy that is, right? — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 21:36, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- Comments:
- You, and all other admins, are free to impose any conditions on me.
- Comments:
- Questions:
- Should I apply for rollback any time soon, how long should I wait?
- Questions:
- Alright, full story: I was planning to test the massRollback tool on 4 sandbox pages.
- After clicking, I think I might have clicked "rollback all" rather than "rollback selected".
- This had reverted every single edit I had made that was a current revision.
- Now that you know the full story, you are free to reinstate it at your own discretion.
- Fair enough—remove the script and I'll reinstate it ^^ -- TNT (talk • she/her) 22:28, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- @TheresNoTime Done, I’ve removed the script. Thank you for your time. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 22:40, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- All reinstated :) -- TNT (talk • she/her) 22:44, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- @TheresNoTime — Side-note, I've condemned myself to the village stocks… feel free to provide any commentary there. The listing would be the first in years. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 23:12, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- ( Peanut gallery comment) Y'know, the "rollback all"/"rollback selected" thing has always been a nightmare of mine. I selectively massrollbacked a checkuser a while ago to correct a mixup at SPI, because I knew he'd understand, but I was terrified I'd accidentally hit "rollback all" instead. One tip to make this less of a risk (and I realize this won't matter for you right now, but to keep in mind for a few months down the line perhaps) is that if, say, the edits you want to selectively rollback are all in the 10 most recent for that person, you can add
?limit=10
to the end of the URL (or&limit=10
if there's already a question mark in the URL). The script can't rollback any edits that aren't on the page, so the "worst-case scenario" would be it hitting all 10, instead of 50 or 100.Really, though... hey @Writ Keeper, old friend, could "RB ALL: " and "RB SELECTED: ", or something like those, perhaps be prepended to the strings in User:Writ_Keeper/Scripts/massRollback.js #L115 and #L121 respectively? -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 08:16, 3 March 2022 (UTC)- @Tamzin — So at least others have the same problem as me lol. However, I’ve learnt the hard way — mass tools can do a lot of damage in such short time.
- Take it this way — I’ve fallen off my high horse, got injured a bit, and now I’m slowly recovering. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 12:47, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- I myself have occasionally screwed up while using RW (mainly trying to thank people but instead accidentally rolling back their edits for a BLP vio because that button appeared right as I was about to click thank, which i've somewhat fixed by making it harder to click that button). I've never heard of this "massRollback" script, however I do agree that mass tools can indeed cause lots of damage. I know there's a preference that makes it so you have to confirm that you want to perform a rollback however I'm not sure if that would do anything with that script. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 17:53, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- Update: Writ Keeper has updated massRollback.js along the lines of my suggestion. Hopefully people will now be less likely to make this mistake in the future. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 18:45, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- I would provide (some) feedback as to what I think of the suggestion, however i have no clue what you were recommending with your suggestion because I don't understand JavaScript (or most coding languages besides HTML really). ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:57, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Tamzin — If I somehow do find my way into mass stuff again, at least that’s one improvement that may cause me to think twice. :P — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 20:13, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- If you do, in a few months, let me know, and I can give you +rollback on testwiki: briefly for you to figure it out, just to make sure history doesn't repeat itself. But, for now, yeah, focus on other things.
:)
-- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 20:48, 3 March 2022 (UTC)- Holy shit, what have I missed? I was gone for like 5 days...
- (also you could just use wikibreak enforcer, possibly even set it to 100 years, and send a message to WP:IANB when you want an unblock) – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 09:10, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- Wait, so does this mean I'll just get blocked if I accidentally press the wrong button? – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 09:38, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- @AssumeGoodWraith — No, I self-requested the block. Use me as a bad example. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 12:47, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- Wait, so does this mean I'll just get blocked if I accidentally press the wrong button? – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 09:38, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- If you do, in a few months, let me know, and I can give you +rollback on testwiki: briefly for you to figure it out, just to make sure history doesn't repeat itself. But, for now, yeah, focus on other things.
- @Tamzin — If I somehow do find my way into mass stuff again, at least that’s one improvement that may cause me to think twice. :P — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 20:13, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- I would provide (some) feedback as to what I think of the suggestion, however i have no clue what you were recommending with your suggestion because I don't understand JavaScript (or most coding languages besides HTML really). ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:57, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- Update: Writ Keeper has updated massRollback.js along the lines of my suggestion. Hopefully people will now be less likely to make this mistake in the future. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she/they) 18:45, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- I myself have occasionally screwed up while using RW (mainly trying to thank people but instead accidentally rolling back their edits for a BLP vio because that button appeared right as I was about to click thank, which i've somewhat fixed by making it harder to click that button). I've never heard of this "massRollback" script, however I do agree that mass tools can indeed cause lots of damage. I know there's a preference that makes it so you have to confirm that you want to perform a rollback however I'm not sure if that would do anything with that script. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 17:53, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- ( Peanut gallery comment) Y'know, the "rollback all"/"rollback selected" thing has always been a nightmare of mine. I selectively massrollbacked a checkuser a while ago to correct a mixup at SPI, because I knew he'd understand, but I was terrified I'd accidentally hit "rollback all" instead. One tip to make this less of a risk (and I realize this won't matter for you right now, but to keep in mind for a few months down the line perhaps) is that if, say, the edits you want to selectively rollback are all in the 10 most recent for that person, you can add
- @TheresNoTime — Side-note, I've condemned myself to the village stocks… feel free to provide any commentary there. The listing would be the first in years. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 23:12, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- All reinstated :) -- TNT (talk • she/her) 22:44, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- @TheresNoTime Done, I’ve removed the script. Thank you for your time. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 22:40, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- Fair enough—remove the script and I'll reinstate it ^^ -- TNT (talk • she/her) 22:28, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Why did you revert my sandbox edit?
The sandbox is for testing, and revision undos should not mostly be done. Why did you do that?--Kurisumasen (talk) 21:03, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Kurisumasen — Nothing on the sandbox remains indefinitely, and it is frequently cleared. Every hour your edit would have been cleared by a bot anyway. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 21:12, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- I concur. While you can make pretty much any edit to the sandbox (with certain exceptions), clearing the sandbox is perfectly allowed. If you are wanting to make multiple edits to one thing over time then you have your user sandbox for that. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:33, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
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Inexpiable (talk) 20:17, 4 March 2022 (UTC)Some unsolicited advice
I didn't chip in in the original discussions because they already struck me as being fast-moving enough as they were, but since I've been pinged here a couple times, I figured I'd give you some thoughts about what happened on the 2nd.
We all make mistakes, including ones that seem stupid and easily avoidable in retrospect; as your edit count increases, the probability of not having messed up in one way or another approaches 0 very quickly. And that's fine. The great thing about wikis is that pretty much everything can be undone or changed by pretty much everyone at pretty much any point in time – that's what makes them work. What matters isn't so much whether we make mistakes, but how we react when we realise we've made one. The German language has a nice compound noun for that (as it does for many things): Fehlerkultur or "error culture" – the manner in which people and institutions manage mistakes. Looking over your talk page archives, your personal Fehlerkultur seems to revolve around trouting (or warning) yourself; while openly acknowledging mistakes is a good thing, I don't think the approach you're currently taking is the most conducive to preventing repeating the same mistakes in the future. When the mass-rollback blunder happened, you responded by trouting yourself, asking to be put in the village stocks, retiring, vanishing, unvanishing, unretiring, asking for – and receiving – a block, asking for – and receiving – an unblock, all within minutes, and while the effects of your test gone wrong hadn't been fully reversed yet. The time spent on litigating all that far exceeded the time it took to fix what was, in the grand scheme of things, a somewhat minor blunder.
In short: It seems like you spiraled pretty badly, and it seems to me that you were trying to punish yourself in some way. Believe me, I get it. I've accidentally mass-rollbacked things I shouldn't have, and I found it absolutely mortifying. But punishment isn't the answer; performing trout-shaped confession and seeking administrator-imposed repentance is rarely a good long-term solution. Here's my suggestion of what to do instead: Next time you mess up, don't add it to a running tally of mistakes; instead, take a breather, and figure out how to fix it, making sure that your solution won't make the issue worse; then fix it. If you can't rectify the issue on your own, ask for help. Once the issue is fixed, take another breather, and think about what caused it; maybe you rushed into something before you fully understood it; maybe you installed a tool you shouldn't have; maybe you got caught up in the heat of the moment and said something without thinking it through first; maybe you just slipped on your mouse and made an unavoidable misclick – it happens, and that's fine. Try to identify and address these causes, instead of beating yourself up over their effects. If your mistake truly was so bad that people want to trout you, or block you, or condemn you to the stocks, they will – you don't need to get ahead of them and do it yourself.
On a final note, and along the lines of my recommendation to not keep a running tally of anything you might have done wrong, I strongly recommend you U1/G7 User:3PPYB6/Bad first impressions; I think I know what you're trying to get at with that page, but it's ripe for being misinterpreted.
I hope you find at least some of this helpful. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions or need help with something. Take care and happy editing, --Blablubbs (talk) 11:00, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Blablubbs — Alright, I know what you and I are getting at.
- But I'd like to notice something that you might have already: there is a spectrum between people. Like you said, people have "Fehlerkulturen" (sorry for my absolute n00b German). On one hand, you have those absolute narcissists who simply do not admit anything wrong, and have to "manually get slapped off their high horse". On the other side, though, you have people who admit everything wrong before people even notice. Eventually, others might be like "Oh, what was that?" while people like those continue to kill themselves. Long story short, their horses are "slouching, or possibly underground".
- Myself being on that spectrum, I am probably sitting at "for everyone else, perfectly average, but unnecessarily hard on himself".
- Like you said, I have an absolutely chronic habit of self-warning/trouting myself. I think TNT has a point — it makes me seem more disruptive than I actually might be.
- If I ABF (assumed bad faith) on anyone, it would be myself, save for obvious vandals, which might be flawed.
- This kind of self-hatred peppers into my normal editing habits as well. I rarely create articles other than ContentTranslation or via AfC, out of the fear that it would be A7d, PRODed, or AfD'd, I would be reported at ANI, and I would eventually get blocked. I don't even add any substantial content other than rough translations, rather, I fix and tweak minor errors in articles.
- Also, I'm having this weird belief that editing too much in the user talk space signifies that I'm NOTHERE. Do you think otherwise?
- Coming back at the former, I could have just used my alternative account to massRollback the massRollback, and it would have been done easier.
- Slightly different note, I'm on the fence of whether or not I'm in "community good standing", and I would like your input, considering you (and I) are members of the community.
- Respond at your convenience. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 13:19, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Block timing
Actually, our recent conversation about the ideal length of a first-time block reminded me of an idea I've had which I didn't remember that I had in time for this year's Community Wishlist Survey.
You correctly note that at the shorter end, some block times don't seem like they could really deter determined vandals/edit warriors if they use IPs. Blocked for 24? Wait out the day and jump in again. And maybe they'll similarly wait out 48 hours, a week, whatever ... sometimes they've not let months stop them from going right back at it (The idea of longer blocks, really, is that they'll find somewhere else online to make a pest of themselves and forget about what they did here).
But ... what if instead of blocking them for a set real-time period, we could block them in stop-time, or wiki-time? What if the block timer only ran when they were on Wikipedia? I.e., they would have to work through 24 hours or whatever of actually reading pages before the block expired?
I suppose you'd want to set things up so that they couldn't beat it just by leaving one tab open on the same page for the whole time, or some other things like that. And maybe see which pages they're reading so that they couldn't use a random script to run out the clock (although there might be privacy issues there).
In that case you wouldn't have to choose 24 hours ... maybe in increments of fives or tens.
Maybe we could get some more concrete ideas together before next year's Community Wishlist and see what people think. Daniel Case (talk) 07:38, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case — That does seem like a good idea. However, we've still got one problem: shared IP addresses. Imagine if one decides to vandalize Wikipedia, and then get all of the users on that same IP to start reading Wikipedia to hack that "(time here)-length block that only runs on Wikipedia". It's very easy to call that sockpuppetry, because, in some twisted form, it is.
- Long story short, although your idea will always have loopholes built in, it is, ultimately, a better way to deter most IP vandals in the long run. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 13:47, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- Well, you could apply that to rangeblocks as well ... Daniel Case (talk) 20:32, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case — I like that idea; then that will be much harder to override with "multiple computers/readers on the same IP". — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 21:09, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
- Well, you could apply that to rangeblocks as well ... Daniel Case (talk) 20:32, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
Revert
Why can't you revert me?--109.52.244.252 (talk) 16:52, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- You reverted yourself, so we cannot revert you anymore. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 16:53, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
- I ping Baldsternet, is this true?--109.52.244.252 (talk) 16:55, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
I'm not the vandal
Hi, I'm not the vandal that's making this mess with this EP, what can i do about it??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.52.244.252 (talk • contribs)
- Hello, if you're not the vandal, firstly, terribly sorry for the trouble. Secondly, if your IP is shared, simply create an account here. Thanks, and sorry for any inconvenience. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 17:02, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
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Unblock request
- 3PPYB6 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
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Block message:
Autoblockedbecause your IP address was recently used by "KirbyCool9". The reason given for KirbyCool9's block is: "Vandalism-only account".
- Blocking administrator: Ohnoitsjamie (talk • blocks)
Sorry, but it is unfortunate that I share an IP with a VOA…
**IP address was not revealed because of privacy concerns.** — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 18:42, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
April Editathons from Women in Red
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Unblock request (again)
{{unblock-auto}}
Sorry for the trouble. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 15:10, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
Request withdrawn as autoblock has expired. Thanks. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 01:48, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
For your efforts in keeping the vandals away. Keep it going! Volten001 ☎ 13:25, 31 March 2022 (UTC) |
- @Volten001—Thanks! This is my first award! Sorry about the rush, but I have a few more vandals to crush! — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 13:26, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Haha.. I see what you did there (I luv rhyming stuff). You're most welcome.. And glad u liked it Volten001 ☎ 13:34, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
Hi
Blogs19 is pretending to be AAhap36 as she filed SPI against him see [1]. Both are very different as AAhap36 is girl and blog19 is a boy. Blog19 is Bengali so edits only Bengali related shows. 2409:4063:6E8E:8A92:BA66:FA55:7630:350D (talk) 16:17, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- You do have a good point; however, RoySmith has a good point in the SPI—there is no point in seeing which big sock farm actually belongs to a different sock farm. It's very likely that these are really just three Indians under the same ISP, each with different sockpuppet farms. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 20:16, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
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- A arbitration case regarding Skepticism and coordinated editing has been closed.
- A arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been opened.
- Voting for the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement guidelines has closed, and the results were that 56.98% of voters supported the guidelines. The results of this vote mean the Wikimedia Foundation Board will now review the guidelines.
Removing the content of Dangal 2
I have removed the content because Dangal 2 was launched on 2 April 2022 by all cable and dth and they shows newly programmes included Alif Laila, Kitani Mohabbat Hai, Rehna Hai Teri Palkon Ki Chhaon Mein, Pyaar Ki Luka Chuppi, Phir Laut Aayi Naagin, Baba Aiso Varr Dhoondo, Crime Alert, Basera. So that is why I removed the content and please do not remove the same content. 42.105.229.31 (talk) 01:43, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
Please explain your edit
here .. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=962192017&diff=1082524434
Why in tarnation do you view that as not constructive? Leading you to think it is proper for you to revert it? --2603:7000:2143:8500:95F2:285B:23D8:15C6 (talk) 17:08, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
- "After a bye in the first round" does not appear coherent. If you can prove otherwise, feel free to revert me… — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 17:10, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
TROUT
Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly. |
You asked for it and I was glad to have a chance to finally trout someone! Hey man im josh (talk) 00:32, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh—Congratulations, I've actually had a trout for an actually valid reason! No more of my self-trouts… — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 00:33, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
Well done
The Barnstar of Diplomacy | ||
Way to keep cool and spell things out diplomatically re: Barrier Air Wikipelli Talk 00:02, 26 April 2022 (UTC) |
- @Wikipelli—Thanks! I try to keep civil myself, even when others are not… ;) — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 00:05, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Civility Barnstar | |
Thanks for being the only person in my opposing vote discussion who was actually nice and respectful to me and the way I vote. Toad40 (talk) 15:26, 28 April 2022 (UTC) |
- @Toad40—Thanks! I try to assume good faith when dealing with others. While your rationale might certainly be seen as unreasonable to far too many people, I try to not make fun of it or badger it. Thanks ;) — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 16:16, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
May Women in Red events
Women in Red May 2022, Vol 8, Issue 5, Nos 214, 217, 227, 229, 230
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--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:51, 30 April 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging
Your submission at Articles for creation: Sonja Lang has been accepted
Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.
The article has been assessed as C-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. This is a great rating for a new article, and places it among the top 18% of accepted submissions — kudos to you! You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.
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🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 08:19, 6 May 2022 (UTC)- Hi 3PPYB6, I've been looking over toki pona yesterday and didn't realize that this was being created before till I saw the thread on the teahouse, thanks for writing this, I really enjoyed reading it and happy editing :D Justiyaya 08:27, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- @EpicPupper – Oh wow! I would have expected a stub rating considering how short it is. I don't trust myself to create any new articles directly, but do you think I should change that mentality? I might switch to userspace drafting and then moving it to mainspace on my own to reduce the workload on AfC reviewers. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 13:04, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
- Hiya @3PPYB6! I loved reading through that article. I've re-asessed it as Start class; it was a bit on the high range of Start and the low range of C, and I wanted to stay on the safe side (so no angry elephants come stomping into my talk page ). The prose is top-notch; I would definitely encourage you to get into some more content creation work. It's a lot of fun! You don't need to run through AfC, particularly for submissions like this. Usually the only thing to keep mind of is referencing, and if you have 3 good references that are listed on WP:RSP, you're probably fine. I'm always up to giving feedback on submissions! The only particular thing I fixed on this one was the short description; generally they should be 40 characters or under. Cheers! 🐶 EpicPupper (he/him | talk) 01:14, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Ampasambazimba
Hi 3PPYB6. You added the {{sfn}}s to this article but without the accompanying full cite. Could you let me know which works these refer too?
Godfrey & Jungers 2002,
Vuillaume-Randriamanantena 1988,
Mittermeier et al. 2010.
- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 17:18, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- @ActivelyDisinterested – Me being an inexperienced content creator again. (sigh of self-disappointment)
- Here are the full cites:
- Godfrey and Jungers 2002: Godfrey, L. R.; Jungers, W. L. (2002). "Quaternary fossil lemurs". In Hartwig, W. C (ed.). The Primate Fossil Record. Cambridge University Press. pp. 97–121. ISBN 978-0-521-66315-1.
- Vuillaume-Randriamanantena: Vuillaume-Randriamanantena, M. (1988). "The taxonomic attributions of giant subfossil lemur bones from Ampasambazimba: Archaeoindris and Lemuridotherium". Journal of Human Evolution. 17 (4): 379–391. doi:10.1016/0047-2484(88)90027-9.
- Mittermeier: Mittermeier, R.A.; Louis, E.E.; Richardson, M.; Schwitzer, C.; et al. (2010). Lemurs of Madagascar. Illustrated by S.D. Nash (3rd ed.). Conservation International. ISBN 978-1-934151-23-5. OCLC 670545286. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 17:29, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks all sorted. - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 18:33, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2022).
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- Following an RfC, a change has been made to the administrators inactivity policy. Under the new policy, if an administrator has not made at least 100 edits over a period of 5 years they may be desysopped for inactivity.
- Following a discussion on the bureaucrat's noticeboard, a change has been made to the bureaucrats inactivity policy.
- The ability to undelete the associated talk page when undeleting a page has been added. This was the 11th wish of the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey.
- A public status system for WMF wikis has been created. It is located at https://www.wikimediastatus.net/ and is hosted separately to WMF wikis so in the case of an outage it will remain viewable.
- Remedy 2 of the St Christopher case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to place a ban on single-purpose accounts who were disruptively editing on the article St Christopher Iba Mar Diop College of Medicine or related pages from those pages.
Your thread has been archived
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Drive-by
I haven't forgotten you, sweetie-pie - just got busy in RL. Will review your work tomorrow. Atsme 💬 📧 20:59, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Atsme – Oh, no worries—real-life events consume me as well. By the way, I'm also flattered that you called me "sweetie pie"… 😉 — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 21:15, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | ||
Thanks for reverting the vandalism by a user and then their vandalism on my talk page Such-change47 (talk) 01:11, 27 May 2022 (UTC) |
- @Such-change47 – Wow, 4th award now! As always, feel free to request me to revert any vandalism on your talk page. 😉 — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 01:14, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Whacked
Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. ARandomPage just wants to let you know that you did something silly, which may or may not include trying to condemn yourself to the Village Stocks. |
- @ARandomPage – Over two months ago, back when I trouted myself. But, yes (sigh), how nostalgic… — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 13:06, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
June events from Women in Red
Women in Red June 2022, Vol 8, Issue 6, Nos 214, 217, 227, 231, 232, 233
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--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 09:19, 31 May 2022 (UTC) via MassMessaging
Miklós Horthy Whitewashing
Hello. The removal of this sourced content is supporting the whitewashing by an IP who did not get consensus. The time standing content is directly related to Horthy and is cited evidence that he did infact know about the crimes against the Jewish population happening. Hungarian ultranationalists actively try to downplay and revise Horrhy’s complicity. In makes the article artificially whitewash the subjects image. The content is related to him. It mentions him directly and is sourced unlike what the IP claimed when they deleted sourced content. Why remove it? I hope you may just not have noticed the bigger picture. OyMosby (talk) 01:34, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
- @OyMosby – You are right. This was over 3 months ago, back when I had worse judgment. One small picture is one medium picture, where one big picture is actually just the small picture in another twisted way. Haste makes waste, but that is anti-vandalism work, unfortunately. I'll just say this: when reverting vandalism, I make very few mistakes, but it does happen. This is one of those cases. Now, since I've been completely inactive for the last few days and it has been WP:REVDEL'd as a copyvio, I have completely forgotten about this, as anti-vandalism is very fast. However, next time, I'll make sure to look closely before undoing my own reverts. Thank you. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 01:16, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – June 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2022).
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- Several areas of improvement collated from community member votes have been identified in the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement guidelines. The areas of improvement have been sent back for review and you are invited to provide input on these areas.
- Administrators using the mobile web interface can now access Special:Block directly from user pages. (T307341)
- The IP Info feature has been deployed to all wikis as a Beta Feature. Any autoconfirmed user may enable the feature using the "IP info" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features. Autoconfirmed users will be able to access basic information about an IP address that includes the country and connection method. Those with advanced privileges (admin, bureaucrat, checkuser) will have access to extra information that includes the Internet Service Provider and more specific location.
- Remedy 2 of the Rachel Marsden case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to delete or reduce to a stub, together with their talk pages, articles related to Rachel Marsden when they violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy.
- An arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been closed.
Modification to standard notification message format
I'm not the user in question, just an IP address hop, but I feel compelled to point out that you don't seem to link to the actual edit in your message that you sent about a non-NPOV reversion. The link supplied just points to a disambiguation page.
Messages like the above would be more helpful if that information was included, to cover situations where one person made multiple edits to a single article.
I replied separately to the message itself as well. Not too familiar with this aspect of wiki.
137.186.18.70 (talk) 01:40, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Thanks
I just wanted to thank you for stopping by my talk page last month. You were right. I requested an unblock after 17 days. Also, I am currently getting an A+ in both of those courses. I requested the unblock because I am not as busy as I thought I would be. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scorpions13256 (talk • contribs) 20:50, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- Well, it happens. To be honest during my "self-requested" block things were going really messy for me and I acted like a complete idiot. I ended up getting bashed and bashed and ended up receiving the most notifications in one day—94. Did I learn from it? Yes. Am I proud of it? No. But enough of being egocentric, myself. Keep going, and I still hope you pass with flying colors. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 00:04, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
Your thread has been archived
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Can I go through your userspace and fix things?
Yeah, I am asking that. The things I want to fix (aside from errors) are out-of-date stuff from when you were being overly harsh on yourself. Is it OK if I remove those? And if not, why? ARandomPage, the named space (Update them!) (Stuff they do) 13:11, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- @ARandomPage – I honestly really don't care that you're fixing anything in my userspace as I'm just really lazy and am being occupied by other things (including a COVID-19 infection). One's userspace is not theirs; in reality, anyone can edit it the same way they edit an article. Just don't vandalize anything. Thanks. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 14:57, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
TROUTED
Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. ARandomPage just wants to let you know that you did something silly, which may or may not include using the visual editor. You traitor! |
— Preceding unsigned comment added by ARandomPage (talk • contribs) 10:30, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- @ARandomPage, what? I don't get it this time. I use the visual editor on talk pages sometimes, and they probably don't care. Oh well. Receiving a trout is better than nothing, I guess. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 12:51, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Request for help
You temporary blocked this vandalism-only IP last month and they are back at it again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:64.231.216.226
Would you be willing to protect us from this for longer, or should I be raising this via a noticeboard? I don't have much experience of this. CT55555 (talk) 19:32, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- @CT55555 – I'm not the blocking administrator, so I cannot block this IP. However, I did revert it and gave it a level 3 warning. Perhaps you were thinking of Ad Orientem? I've pinged him here so he can handle your request. Alternatively, you can raise this issue at WP:AIV, where you will get a much faster response. Thank you. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 20:04, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
- IP is currently blocked x 1 month by Ponyo. -Ad Orientem (talk)
Talk:SpheralCobra
Thanks for undoing that edit on my talk page :) SpheralCobra (talk) 23:06, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
- All in an ordinary day's anti-vandalism work. 😉 — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 23:07, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
not sure how to ping, but I replied to your message that you left on my profile
Sometimes I try to Ping people and it works, other times it does not.24.72.62.90 (talk) 07:50, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
New page reviewer granted
Hi 3PPYB6. Your account has been added to the "New page reviewers
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- Accuracy is more important than speed. Take your time to patrol each page. Use the message feature to communicate with article creators and offer advice as much as possible.
The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you also may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In cases of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, or long-term inactivity, the right may be withdrawn at administrator discretion. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 05:50, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Arbitrarily0 – Oh, OK! I was expecting a simple trial run, but then again, that was at your discretion. Still, if you believe I've misused or abused this tool in any way, feel free to revoke. Thanks! — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 22:34, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- Peace. I think it's fine. You seem to have the proper combination of experience and trepidation. Unless Atsme disagrees. Arbitrarily0 (talk) 22:42, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
Hello 3PPYB6,
- Backlog status
At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000[a] at the end of May.
Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.[b]
In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).
While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).
- Backlog drive
A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.
- TIP – New school articles
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- Misc
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Hello, take a look
Hello. I hope this message meets you well. If you aren't too busy, review this page Neo (BBNaija). Thanks. Amaekuma (talk) 12:48, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Amaekuma – Someone (Mako001) has already reviewed it. Thank you. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 14:59, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
Yes someone else has reviewed it. Thanks for the feedback. You're appreciated. Amaekuma (talk) 18:44, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
Hello 3PPYB6. I hope this message meets you well. If you aren't too busy, review this page Kim Chinonso Oprah. Thanks. Amaekuma (talk) 19:37, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Amaekuma – Sorry; I'm pretty busy in real-life. Last night I got around to reviewing it, but then I went to bed. Zippybonzo has taken care of this article. I'll try not to get swooped in to real-life events too often. Sorry about that. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 13:12, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks you for your time. I understand, we all get busy in real-life too, it's normal. I appreciate you. Amaekuma (talk) 13:30, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Women in Red in July 2022
Women in Red July 2022, Vol 8, Issue 7, Nos 214, 217, 234, 235
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Disclosures
This might be ugly, and whoever watches this page can revert it, but I'll post some disclosures here: I am 3PPYB6 on thetestwiki.org, Miraheze, Wikitech, testwiki.wiki, Nookipedia, and on Twitter. Disclosures of these accounts should not be considered as doxing me, but nevertheless it remains my utmost strongest preference for you not to reveal these accounts as linked to me, and if you do not object, I may remove such links. Thank you. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 21:33, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
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