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June 2022
The Point was created as an article again
Thought you might want to know that The Point (studio show) was created again. It doesn’t seem to be ready for the main space but I am not able to move it to draft. It’s much better than the original version though.Esolo5002 (talk) 17:16, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- It was re-added with sources, so it doesn't need to be moved back to draftspace. Curbon7 (talk) 08:15, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Flag icons in military conflict infoboxes
Hi Curbon7, at Battle of Ivankiv you reverted my edit where I have removed unnecessary flag icons with the comment: Battles are an exception to MOS:INFOBOXFLAG, see for example Battle of Gettysburg.
Battles are not an exception to the "rule" (ie the broad community consensus) and WP:MILMOS#FLAGS is consistent with that at MOS:INFOBOXFLAG. In general, ... icons convey useful information to the reader, or are they merely decorative? Icons that differentiate among several parties (for example, icons used to indicate commander allegiance in Battle of the Atlantic (1939–1945)) are likely to be useful, while icons that convey irrelevant or redundant information are usually not.
When there are only two belligerents sides (as at Ivankiv), flag icons serve no useful purpose and their removal is consistent with the guidance. On the other hand, if there is at least one co-belligerent on one side and entries in other fields where the co-belligerents are need to be distinguished then flag icons can usefully convey this information (see Battle of Buna–Gona as an example). That WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, such as Battle of Gettysburg, only carries weight if it represents "best practice". While Battle of Gettysburg is a GA, the infobox when it was promoted and reviewed are substantially different from that at present and is no longer compliant with guidance on this particular issue and some other matters (particularly such an extensive list of leaders which would be inconsistent with the advice at WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE and the template documentation). The infobox at Gettysberg no longer represents best practice.
Part of the edit at Ivankiv you reinstated entries to the unit parameter which simply stated the "armed forces" of each country. This is redundant information and therefor not consistent with WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE. Furthermore, an hierarchical list starting with a countries armed forces, then a particular branch and so on is also redundant information when actually reporting a particular formation or unit. It is not consistent with WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE
You appear to have made similar reverts to at least these articles: Battle of Brovary, Capture of Chernobyl and Battle of Slavutych where the same considerations were applied. I trust that this is suffient clarification of the validity of these edits. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 05:02, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- Cinderella157, Ok. I'm not a frequent editor of military history, so I'll take your word on it. The only one I don't see is I do think there should be a flagicon for the belligerent parameter, but for the other parameters I can totally see how that's just clutter (I'm assuming an exception is when there are different national entities on the same side, right?). RE: the part about the units, again, not a frequent editor here so I'll take your word for it; in this case, I think it would be preferred to use the brigade involved (with the individual regiments written into the prose instead). Cheers. Curbon7 (talk) 08:25, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- You are correct, flag icons can be useful if there are different nations on the same side. I acknowledge that you think they should be used in the belligerent field but not elsewhere; however, it is usually a quantum choice - and I doubt that most inexperienced editors would understand the distinction you would make. You only have to look at the MOS:FLAGCRUFT in some of these articles, where every possible flag is used. I would generally agree with you about units though it can be a little subtle. We certainly don't need every step in the heirachy from the "armed forces" down. If a formation (say a brigade or division) was the force engaged, then we wouldn't list the individual units making up the formation. If though, a brigade had one of its three combat battalions detached, we might list the remaining two under the brigade in the infobox. The key point (per WP:INFOBOXPURPOSE) is to not bloat the infobox with unnecessary intricate detail. Having said that, I would generally agree with your view on this. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 09:46, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
Saadoun Brahim
The article Saadoun Brahim that you have relocated to my draft space contains 10 references, and these are references normally recognized in Wikipedia. I mean, they are not social media postings. All claims in the article are based exclusively on these references. As a result, I see you page move action as vandalism that I have reverted. Please refrain from doing unweighted actions like this. Audriusa (talk) 09:19, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Audriusa, I moved it to draftspace so it can be worked on in a safe environment where it won't be at risk of deletion, as the article at the moment is formatted very poorly, not neutral, and the claim to notability is very thin with regards to WP:BLP1E. The fact that you can't see that I was literally trying to help you is baffling. And accusing me of vandalism? Fuck off with that shit. How dare you accuse me of "page move vandalism". Curbon7 (talk) 15:38, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
DYK nomination of Kasymaly Jantöshev
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writing notable paragraphs SPwiki4africa (talk) 18:03, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- @SPwiki4africa, consider reading WP:YFA. It has a lot of helpful tips to writing your first article. Curbon7 (talk) 19:11, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Joe Giglio
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I did not speed tag the Joe Giglio article. I checked the references and they are less than WP:BARE. Unfortunately I may have to send it to deletion. Bruxton (talk) 23:47, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- He's obviously notable per WP:NPOL. I see you just got the NPR perm today, so it's ok, and I understand where the confusion comes from, as our notability guidelines are vast and often contradictory; however, it is imperative to at least have a grasp on some of the more frequent WP:SNGs, like WP:NPOL and WP:NPROF. Curbon7 (talk) 23:51, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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Albino Aboug
Hello Carbon7. You edited the page for Albino Aboug and stated that he is related to Salva Kiir. This information is not accurate. The two are not related.
Direct quote from Albino Aboug https://www.mwebantu.com/south-sudan-makes-push-to-lead-the-pan-african-parliament/ The Mfalme (talk) 21:21, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
- The Mfalme, ok thank you. You should've just linked to that in the first place, it would cleared things up much sooner, as the other source was stating that he was related to him, which is where the confusion stemmed from! Curbon7 (talk) 22:00, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
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Kieran Molloy
That is supposed to be a "may refer to" page - like Sean Kelly. Sean Kelly doesn't have what you are asking for either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fingoal (talk • contribs) 15:17, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
It is as close to Sean Kelly as I can get it now. Move it back. can you move it back? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fingoal (talk • contribs) 15:29, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
I put in the citations now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fingoal (talk • contribs) 15:37, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Fingoal, I added the disambiguating links to both pages; per our guidelines on disambiguation pages, when there is only two articles, they don't need a disambiguation page; Template:For is the preferred in this case. Curbon7 (talk) 16:24, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
2 Questions
1. Have you ever met any people born in Africa who live in the United States? If so, which countries were they born in? 2. On a scale on 1 to 10, 1 being the worst and 10 being the best, how good do you think on making contributions to Wikipedia? AmericanEditor350 (talk) 17:22, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- AmericanEditor350, My brother's father-in-law used to be a big-shot in the Congo back in like the 70s, but he had to flee the country cause of war and now lives in Atlanta. As for the 2nd question, I'm not sure what you mean? Curbon7 (talk) 17:35, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- What I mean is, how good I do on editing articles and making articles? AmericanEditor350 (talk) 17:39, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- AmericanEditor350, You have the right spirit and the right character, so I'm sure you'll develop into a fine editor. I understand our extensive notability guidelines can be confusing and sometimes even contradictory. Everyone struggles a bit when they're first starting out, so don't worry too much. I'd recommend doing easier tasks on articles that already exist, and then gradually building up from there. That'll give you a good foundation to understand a lot of different policies and will help you improve. I'm sure you'll be fine
Curbon7 (talk) 17:44, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- AmericanEditor350, You have the right spirit and the right character, so I'm sure you'll develop into a fine editor. I understand our extensive notability guidelines can be confusing and sometimes even contradictory. Everyone struggles a bit when they're first starting out, so don't worry too much. I'd recommend doing easier tasks on articles that already exist, and then gradually building up from there. That'll give you a good foundation to understand a lot of different policies and will help you improve. I'm sure you'll be fine
- What I mean is, how good I do on editing articles and making articles? AmericanEditor350 (talk) 17:39, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
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Deletion of MP of Germany articles
Hallo,
you proposed the deletion of 16 articles of current member of the Bundestag, the german diet. Pl. reconsider this bc. the relevance of being MP is out of question Lovemankind83 (talk) 16:24, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Lovemankind83, I have no idea what you're talking about, as I have not proposed any Bundestag member for deletion. Can you link the articles in question, so that I can help you out? Curbon7 (talk) 18:45, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Nadarius Clark moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Nadarius Clark, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Dr. Blazer (talk) 02:28, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Dr. Blazer! A few things to note: (1) Clark is notable per WP:NPOL; as such, as long as a sources is cited which confirms this, it is good to go. (2) Articles older than around 90 days should generally not be draftified, per WP:DRAFTIFY; other routes, such as AfD (if it's non-notable) should be taken instead. (3) Articles that have gone through the New page patrol process should not be draftified, as this indicates that a reviewer believes it to be sufficiently notable; thus, as in the last one, other routes should be explored if you feel it is unsuitable. (4) Consider adding the following gadget: User:Mr. Stradivarius/gadgets/Draftify. It is very convenient for draftifying articles so you don't have to do as much manual work! Curbon7 (talk) 02:39, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Lisa Ellis (American politician)
@Curbon7 Would Lisa Ellis (American politician) be considered a cut and paste move of the Draft:Lisa Ellis (American politician) that you created? CollectiveSolidarity (talk) 04:25, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- CollectiveSolidarity yes. I didn't create the draft, I just draftified it, but that user appears to have moved it back manually. Will request a WP:HISTMERGE. Curbon7 (talk) 11:24, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Pavel Rudakov
Hello!
What's wrong with the book "Estrada in Russia. XX century. Encyclopedia"? This book was prepared by the team of the State Institute of Art Studies (Государственный институт искусствознания) employees, edited by Elizaveta Uvarova (Doctor of Sciences in the field of art history (1985), Professor (1993)), and published in 2004. It's the main scientific work dedicated to Russian and Soviet XX century estrada. There is no reason to doubt the reliability of this source. The article dedicated to estrada duet Rudakov & Nechayev is on the pages 584-585. Also this estrada duet is mentioned on the page 322, in the article dedicated to the coupletist genre. Moreover, Pavel Rudakov is mentioned on other pages as a mentor of different performers. I think it's enough to match the General notability guideline. K8M8S8 (talk) 06:43, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- K8M8S8, I agree that he's probably notable, but over half of the article is currently unsourced. Please cite one or two additional sources that provide WP:SIGCOV and it should be good to go. Curbon7 (talk) 11:32, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
About the Jonjon Mendoza made by noob guys
Hey my friend, earlier, the user named Noob guy 33 added new references so that it won't be moved to the draft again. It has reliable sources bro. 49.144.72.74 (talk) 07:41, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Murad Ahmed
Tell me the Reason What are the reasons for rejecting my article? Explain it. MuradAhmed786 (talk) 13:10, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- MuradAhmed786, You quite obviously do not meet our our notability criteria. Perhaps some day in the future you will, but at the moment you don't. Curbon7 (talk) 13:13, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
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- Iseult, Fair enough. Generally, I figure nobles who held enough land to form a county are more-or-less notable, but that's a fair interpretation for this particular case. Cheers. Curbon7 (talk) 13:55, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
citation question - JBH page
Hi Curbon7,
Thank you for reverting the change for lack of valid citation. I have since added the citation requested, which links the report generated by the LNC special committee to the uploaded final document on the Google Public List utilized by the Libertarian Party National Committee. Here is the link/citation for reference: https://groups.google.com/a/lp.org/group/lnc-business/attach/2d9e81107e8d7/LPNH_Investigation_Report%20with%20Recommendations_210830_1900.pdf?part=0.1 Iceman101184 (talk) 14:08, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
DYK for Kasymaly Jantöshev
![]() | On 8 July 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Kasymaly Jantöshev, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a 1955 satirical comedy play by Kasymaly Jantöshev was one of the first signs of the relaxation of Soviet literary restrictions after the death of Joseph Stalin? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kasymaly Jantöshev. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Kasymaly Jantöshev), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page. |
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Categories during AfC cleanup
Hi, pretty sure this was a copy-paste mistake of some sort, but just wanted to drop you a line to note that I've removed the living people related categories you added in this diff to the article Claude Frédéric t'Serclaes, Count of Tilly. Happy editing! Ljleppan (talk) 08:46, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
- Ljleppan, the AfC tool freaks out when a reviewer doesn't put in a death date into the parameter box and will categorize them into Category:Living people, so we usually have to manually remove the cat. Sorry, forgot to do this last part. Curbon7 (talk) 11:25, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
Albert Johnson (Mississippi politician) - thanks!
Thanks for catching that! I did look but missed it. S0091 (talk) 17:57, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
Very nice of you to kitten me a while back
Low gumption. Not for any specific reason. Needed to step back for a minute. I know from experience when I exceed my willingness my pagework is not very impressive. No energy to edit so I stopped editing. Worked on my health and meditation. I still read a lot of pedia, even boards. Following your work. Saw some places where we might find disagreement. But as I ripen I value differing points of view more than I once did. BOLD and AGF are my guiding stars. As wikipedians, disagreement is where we live.
I hope you and yours are well. I'm enormously grateful that you thought of me. BusterD (talk) 16:01, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- BusterD, we all need breaks every now and again, WP can be stressful at times and burnout is real. I took some time off from editing in May while I was visiting family, and it felt really refreshing. I've gotten back into article creation, mainly saving doomed drafts that are notable. If you ever find yourself with some time and don't know what to do, I have them sorted in subpages at my sandbox. The list is infinitely expanding for as long as SDZeroBot publishes the daily declination/weekly draftification reports. Right now though I'm working on an article from scratch: Draft:Betty Hall (politician), who was an absolutely fascinating person ([1][2]). It's obviously not in publishing state at the moment (I'm still in the word-vomit phase), but I'm on the cusp of finishing the hardest part and I can't wait to see the end product. I'm aiming for GA, so I'm trying to get it as good and as whole of a picture as possible. Curbon7 (talk) 17:30, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- As you can also see here, I still haven't fixed my issue of typing way too much lol. It's gotten better though. Curbon7 (talk) 17:41, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Too much rough draft is a great place to start. I once complimented a fellow train rider on her seeming ability to just throw stuff down on the page without thinking. She appreciated the notice because she said facility and willingness was a challenge for her until she started doing daily pages (a part of The Artist's Way). I'm a firm believer in throwing spitballs at the wall to see what sticks. I get sentimental about some subjects myself, get drawn into caring so much it's harder for me to edit. I can't explain it and I've been re-learning new page patrol to help shake the habit. But Betty's a sweet subject, I agree. BusterD (talk) 18:11, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- As you can also see here, I still haven't fixed my issue of typing way too much lol. It's gotten better though. Curbon7 (talk) 17:41, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Khorsedur Rahman Khan
Bad draftifying; see NPOL. TrangaBellam (talk) 18:18, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- TrangaBellam, to be completely honest, I have no idea why I draftified that. Thanks for catching my mistake! Curbon7 (talk) 18:20, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks
Thank you for fixing my error on Matt Gaetz. I know it was done in Marjorie Taylor Greene’s page, so is it only before the word politician we can’t do it? Bbraxtonlee (talk) 04:00, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Generally yeah, we don't want to use ideological descriptors in the first sentence like that before politician (heck, we don't even do that with Hitler). MTG is a different case because the far-right descriptor is attached to conspiracy theorist. Curbon7 (talk) 15:05, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
About Draft:Saurabh Vaibhav
hello you have declined my article yesterday, after seeing why it is declined I have corrected the article please give a check and review my article if there is something more to improve let me know Thanks Koundinyajayanth (talk) 06:21, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Paul M. Sparrow
Thank you for the quick review. Can you please offer assistance regarding any unreliable/non-independent sources in the draft? Which portions of the draft require additional sourcing, given that much of Sparrow's early career pre-dates online references? Thanks again, Danceswithedits (talk) 16:02, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Danceswithedits, As this is a WP:BLP, all statements need to be properly cited with reliable and independent sources. Almost all of the Broadcasting Career, Museum & Library Career, and Other Activities sections lack this, as well as part of the Early Career & Education section. We do accept the use of offline sources. Curbon7 (talk) 16:35, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks again for the quick reply. Can you please identify any unreliable or un-independent sources? I've added several IMDB, White House Historical Association, Roosevelt Institute and others that all appear to be reliable and/or independent. Thanks again. Danceswithedits (talk) 17:21, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Zahia Mentouri
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about Draft:Saurabh Vaibhav
hello! after ypu declined the article i have updated the article please check and help me in publishing this page Koundinyajayanth (talk) 07:10, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Request on 14:11:15, 19 July 2022 for assistance on AfC submission by Nmudesk
All suggestions are welcome to make this biography book to include in the Wikipedia. Any senior editors can do required edits for the same.
Thanking You.
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ITN recognition for Sixtus Lanner
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Sources
Hello,
I have cited all the sources. I wonder why you didn’t approve. Is it the format of the references. What needs to be corrected for the article to be approved. Your feedback is not clear
Thank you, Don Donsylvester66 (talk) 04:30, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
ITN recognition for Ángela Abós Ballarín
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I can't publish an external link.
The external link, also known as roblox.com is not possible to be posted at all, at either way it's not locally blacklisted, not globally blacklisted nor it's even not on monitor list, I need help with whitelisting it. Enternian (talk) 10:45, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
- Enternian, No. There's a point why it's blacklisted. If you keep spamming Wikipedia with this crap, you will likely end up blocked, so I urge you to desist. Curbon7 (talk) 17:44, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Tom Unterrainer Draft Article
Hello, I am doing the draft article of Tom Unterrainer but am struggling to add the references. Any help? Ty. JackMags (talk) 13:39, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
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Hey! So you probably don’t remember me but you fixed my edit with Matt Gaetz far-right thing. Well, I tried fixing it like you with Paul Gosar and Wendy Rogers, but they said it was allowed. I believe you, but don’t know how to word it so they won’t revert my change. Can you maybe help? Bbraxtonlee (talk) 05:40, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
I’m sorry they accused me of whitewashing lmao because I used Hitler as an example … Bbraxtonlee (talk) 06:17, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Bbraxtonlee, Do you remember when I said there are exceptions? Gosar and Rogers are very much the exceptions lol, as they are actually literally far-right. It's kinda nuanced so don't worry about it. Curbon7 (talk) 11:39, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Diagalon
Hey, you recently reviewed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Diagalon and you gave a reason for its denial as "Sources do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject " in total there are currently 19 sources two are "passing mentions" the rest are seemingly reliable sources from seperate independent organisations such as the Canadian Anti-Hate Network. Can you please elaborate on why it was declined? i have resubmitted the draft and is currently awaiting re-review. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thingsomyipisntvisable (talk • contribs) 15:12, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thingsomyipisntvisable, WP:FRINGE applies. Just because there is some limited coverage of this crackpot group doesn't mean it meets our notability guidelines for organizations or our general notabiltiy guidelines. It could be very selectively merged to Canada convoy protest (like basically only a sentence), but there isn't enough to warrant a standalone article. To quote from WP:FRINGE, "Because Wikipedia aims to summarize significant opinions with representation in proportion to their prominence, a Wikipedia article should not make a fringe theory appear more notable or more widely accepted than it is". Curbon7 (talk) 15:19, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- if in theory i indluded how many "members" are speculated as according to sources this includes all forms of Diagalon banned media ( https://ragingdissident.com/ ) "Because Wikipedia aims to summarize significant opinions with representation in proportion to their prominence, a Wikipedia article should not make a fringe theory appear more notable or more widely accepted than it is". then **in theory** that would be okay right?
- "there isn't enough to warrant a standalone article" does this just mean i need more sources? Thingsomyipisntvisable (talk) 15:25, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- dont get me wrong i dont plan on using Diagalon banned media as a source it is purley an example of "widespread" support Thingsomyipisntvisable (talk) 15:27, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thingsomyipisntvisable, at this point, I think you may find better help at the AfC Help Desk or the Fringe theories/Noticeboard. Curbon7 (talk) 15:54, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- thanks for the redirect, its much apreciated Thingsomyipisntvisable (talk) 15:57, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Draft:Lawrence B. Sawyer
Hello, how can I improve sourcing here? I am citing 3 websites and 4 books. Is there anything wrong with the cited sources? Jchw1994 (talk) 16:06, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Jchw1994, Sources must be reliable and independent. Notability is determined by how significant the coverage is, not just how many sources are cited. Curbon7 (talk) 16:36, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Curbon7, I have made significant updates to the page, including some more direct sources for reliability. Hopefully they are sufficient. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jchw1994 (talk • contribs)
Draft:Three Star Books
Hi, can you suggest how I could make my sources better for the page above? All cited sources are independent, so I'm wondering if there's a length(in pages?) that makes an article or book chapter significant enough to be of value? Thank you in advance! Artistsbooksforever (talk) 14:15, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Artistsbooksforever, In order to demonstrate notability, sources do need to be reliable and independent, but also need to to provide significant coverage of the subject. It may be beneficial to view our notability criteria for corporations and organizations. If there are offline sources that provide SIGCOV, are reliable, and are independent, these can certainly be used! Curbon7 (talk) 14:37, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, I'll look into it, and I'm sure it's my lack of expertise. Will learn! Thanks for your help! Artistsbooksforever (talk) 15:18, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Hi. How can I prove the depth of the coverage for offline sources like the publications below? Should I try google books?
- Thank you again!
- Losowsky, A. (2013). Fully booked: ink on paper. Gestalten. pp. 94-99. ISBN 9783899554649
- Glasner B., Ott S. (2012). Wonder Wood: A Favorite Material for Design, Architecture and Art. Birkhauser. pp. 96-97. ISBN 9783034606738
- Tuitou, Haydée (Autumn 2018 – Winter 2019). "Mélanie Scarciglia & Christophe Boutin". Apartamento (22): 232–247
- London Centre for Book Arts (November 8, 2021). Books: Art, Craft & Community. Ludion Publishers. ISBN 9493039528.
- Roth, A., Aarons, P. E., Lehmann, C. (2017). Artists who make books. Phaidon. p. 305. ISBN 9780714872643 Artistsbooksforever (talk) 15:35, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Per WP:OFFLINE, we would typically just assume good-faith that the claims made are in the offline source. If those offline sources are on Google Books, it would definitely help, but it's not a biggie. Curbon7 (talk) 16:11, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, I'll look into it, and I'm sure it's my lack of expertise. Will learn! Thanks for your help! Artistsbooksforever (talk) 15:18, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
Thank you! Artistsbooksforever (talk) 19:22, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
Help
Hi @Curbon7 how are you doing today? i'm contacting in regards of the draft article Draft:Jeleel! you declined, i'm new here and i'm just learning and watching videos on how to edit on here, please i need your help, to help me edit the article {Draft:Jeleel!} in an encyclopedic tone and help in reviewing it. I will so much appreciate your support Curbon. Love Dont Cost A Dime (talk) 13:24, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Why did you call my language a “crank” language?
It has rules and everything a language needs, so why did you decline it?
(For context it was Transbanian, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Transbanian) 49.183.2.81 (talk) 01:36, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- It's a completely non-notable made-up language. There are no reliable sources, nor will there ever be reliable sources. As I stated, Wikipedia is not the place to do promotion. Curbon7 (talk) 01:42, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
It’s not made-up. There is no such thing as a “made-up” language. All sources are created by the foundation. EpicGuy22 (talk) 02:12, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
I worked on this language for 10 years just for you to call it “fake” and say it will never be big. Please learn to be nicer and do your research before insulting people. EpicGuy22 (talk) 03:36, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Mate I'm just relaying that the present form is not suitable for Wikipedia. Who knows, it may just be the next Esperanto, and I wish you the best of luck; however, at the moment, there is nothing that indicates notability. Curbon7 (talk) 04:31, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
How notable does it have to be? EpicGuy22 (talk) 05:55, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Notability is indicated by significant coverage provided by reliable sources that are independent of the subject (i.e. not primary sources). Curbon7 (talk) 16:29, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
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Correct title?
Hi! May I ask why you think that this move was to a "correct title"? – to it seems worse rather than better. Was there perhaps some discussion of it somewhere that I've missed? Thanks, regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:22, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
- The format for literally every other cat in the Category:Alumni by university or college tree (and the Category:Faculty by university or college tree for that matter) is University of such-and-such alumni, so it's clear that that is the format of choice. I figured it was uncontroversial enough to bypass the bureaucracy of taking a 14 year old misnamed category to CfD since it is the format for literally every other cat, but I can rvt and CfD if you want. (I probably should've left a better edit summary tho). Curbon7 (talk) 21:29, 1 August 2022 (UTC)