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Kishtwari
Hello brother I want to let you know that kishtwari is not a dialect of kashmiri , although kishtwari is a language on its own , it is originally simpler form of prakit influenced at first by neighbouring western Pahadi and Punjabi and then after interaction between locals and kashmiri refugees it got influenced by kashmiri, and was written in takri script which was main script to write pahadi languages, all the claims I'm claiming are not unsourced these are on the basis of Siddeshwar verma linguistic survey he totally argued kishtwari as kashmiri dialect . 171.50.191.34 (talk) 04:32, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
Removed content from Hari Singh Page
Hi, I received a message from you. I removed a content for which no source was cited on the page regarding the blackmailing of Prince. Hence removed Mukulrajsingh (talk) 12:23, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- Since the lead summarises the body of the article, you need to look in the body for citations. See WP:LEADCITE. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 12:31, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
Kanpur
We now have two pages: 2022 Kanpur Violence and 2022 Kanpur violence. Add the former to the same AfD? TrangaBellam (talk) 08:21, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
ARBIPA sanctions alert
Kautilya3, why did you leave a ARBIPA alert on my talk page when I had already put {{Ds/aware}}
there? Webberbrad007 (talk) 08:48, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Edit warring
You seem to be engaged in an edit war at the Nupur Sharma page. You have reverted my RS sourced edits twice and have reverted to a source not in the WP:RSPSS generally reliable list.
In addition, you have not WP:AGF by levelling accusations of "whitewashing".
Please refrain for doing so in the future and engage productively on the talk page. Webberbrad007 (talk) 07:27, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Needed your urgent attention on Rajputs in Bihar
Dear K3, I was pinged by Admantine123 on my talk page to correct the portion related to controversial stuffs to a 2-3 line on my talk page, even LukeEmily was tagged and I was told there is no problem. Now, the other editor is again engaged into changing things to his liking. I am sharing the diff of the communication to me. I think this behaviour is deliberately obstructive. Akalanka820 (talk) 03:44, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- here is the diff- [[1]] Akalanka820 (talk) 03:47, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Now, third editor Hemantha, who has never engaged into any discussion there is now reverting. Akalanka820 (talk) 03:49, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- I am adding this diff here- [[2]], the concerned editor Hemantha never participated into any discussion and reverts edit giving very rude edit summary, calling others arguments weak without any participation. He isn't aware of any talk page discussion where I have mentioned that I was pinged to correct it into 2-3 lines. I have already shared diffs of it here. Akalanka820 (talk) 04:04, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Hi Akalanka, sorry to be responding late. It seems that Admantine123 has agreed with one of your positions, but that may not be so for the other editors. So you still have work to do to persuade them. There is also no requirement that editors should have participated in the talk page discussion in order to make edits (reverts, in this case). But, once they are opposed, they need to engage on the talk page. I am sorry there isn't much else I can do in this case.
The best I can suggest right now is to first clean up the page: fix the typos, grammatical errors etc., remove off-topic content, and make the page readable. Then you can invite other editors to read through it and give their opinion. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:34, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- Sir, the point is before engaging into complete reverting to his liking, at the least the editor could have responded me on the talk page where I was pinged by the other editor agreeing to some positions. Lastly, it would be better for the page if you can suggest something which you think on this topic on the articles talk page. The question is simple: Is this a community page? Or a Landlords vs Depressed class struggle ? In all the references except two village cases, it says Landlords of Bhumihars and Rajputs not only Rajputs. So, considering all this why should we just describe it here completely rather than on a more direct relevant page except some lines mention to it. This was the decided part by the editor on my page and I don't know why it should be a problem? Akalanka820 (talk) 17:19, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Regarding Bappa Rawal
The content i was added in the article of Bappa Rawal was well sourced, firstly i addd the page number regarding the title "Purana Purusha, so there is no sense in adding "page needed", that is well sourced citation Then i removed "Different historians have identified him with various rulers of the Guhila dynasty, including Kalabhoja, Shiladitya, and Khumana." Because it was unreliable information without any source, the Kaalbhoj was the name of Bappa Rawal, Shiladitya was his ancestor and Khuman was his son, it is a fact Then i added regnal name which was used during the reign of Bappa Rawal, while actually his birth name was Kaalbhoj Also i added Posthumous name "Shriguhil govarendra Chandra" , the posthumous name which was given to Bappa Rawal after his death, i even added source with that Then i added his another name "Kaalbhoj" in led, and then added Udaipur State which itself founded by Bappa Rawal, the Mewar region was unreliable because it was known even before Bappa Rawal, there is not a single source who consider Bappa as founder of "Mewar Region", he was founder of "Mewar Kingdom" not region, the region was kneon even before him I also removed "Arab invasion of Chittod" and added "Arab invasion of India" because he not only repelled Chittod invasion while he repelled Indian Invasion of Arabs, Battle of Ujjain is perfect example of this where Armies of both Bappa Rawal and Nagbhat 1st defeated Arabs (Ummayd Caliphate)
This is my explanation, i added neutral information, there is nothing wrong about that Takshak24 (talk) 06:07, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- The page, as it has existed for a long time, seems perfectly fine. Nothing more needs to be added. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 07:46, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
There are many errors in that page and i have explained, the page really need change as nothing is permanent Takshak24 (talk) 13:31, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
- On Wikipedia, you cannot delete or modify reliably sourced content without discussing it first and obtaining editor WP:CONSENSUS. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:43, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
How to use this?
Recently i saw you corrected some references on the page. I am writing an another article. How to use this book, it was used on Bhumi Sena article and someone said that it's the wrong way to use as the name of the book is just a "collection" (something like that) its actually "Smouldering Dalit fire in Bihar" is the name. Admantine123 (talk) 16:29, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- The "Smouldering" article is a journal article, and it is cited correctly. I don't see a problem.
- Often people cite a book, which is actually an edited collection, without identifying the actual artile and its author. To find that information, you need to go to the table of contents of the book. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:37, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- Can i cite it like this? I want these pages to open in citation from this particular "book", as it can be previewed easily.
- GEORGE J. KUNNATH (2017). Smouldering Dalit Fires in Bihar. Routledge. p. 89-95. ISBN 978-1351381819. Retrieved 16 June 2022.. The name of this collection is " Windows into a Revolution: Ethnographies of Maoism in India and Nepal Front Cover Alpa Shah, Judith Pettigrew", i want this book to open, when someone want to view that content is sourced or not not the "JSTOR".Admantine123 (talk) 02:45, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Not exactly. It should be like this:
- George J. Kunnath (2017). "Smouldering Dalit Fires in Bihar". In eeeditor-name (ed.). Book title. Routledge. p. 89-95. ISBN 978-1351381819.
- Use chapter-url instead of the url field. Note also that the accessdate field is perfectly useless! -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:09, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- The document is at Template:Citation. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:10, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- Can i cite it like this? I want these pages to open in citation from this particular "book", as it can be previewed easily.
Gilgit Baltistan is part of India
I had made some edits on the Wiki Page for Hunzal valley and Shamshal. The Hunzal valley or Shamshal village comes under Gilgit Baltistan region which acceeded with India in 1947. The wiki page for these regions incorrectly state that it belongs to Pakistan. This region is part of the Union Territory of Jammu and Kashmir which js part of India; this is the official position of the Republic of India.
You have reversed my edits citing that there is no basis for this. What additional reference do Wikipedia need to correct this mistake? Srivatsan (talk) 21:48, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
- I gave you a welcome message on your talk page, which has links to the Wikipedia policies. Please follow the first link in partcular, "five pillars". All editing of Wikipedia must be done in accordance with those policies. Your personal opinions are of no consequence, and neither are those of the Government of India. You should not edit any Kashmir-related topics until you have a solid understanding of Wikipedia policies. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:55, 18 June 2022 (UTC)