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Could you let me have the deleted article? I think I can recycle some of the content. Rathfelder (talk) 21:35, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Rathfelder: Where are you proposing to merge the article? -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 10:52, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Parts of it will go into coverage of various NHS trusts, NHS England and related articles Rathfelder (talk) 12:22, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
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Hi, Guerillero. After I saw your message, I decided to just schedule your list for the 19th. The other list was a music-related page anyway, and I have no issue pushing that appearance back a bit for an article that has more date relevance. The blurb is here for your reviewing pleasure. Cheers. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:26, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
War crimes in the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine. Edit war?
Thank you for your closure of this enforcement request and for the advice about avoiding walls of text that no one will read - I'll try my best to follow your advice. As I'm not very experienced about conflict resolution here, could you please tell me if this looks like a violation of the 3RR to you: User:Gitz6666/sandbox and, if so, where do you think this should be discussed: at AE (again) or AN3? Thank you, Gitz (talk) (contribs) 01:04, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- VM self-reverted. I don't see anything else to do here -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 12:48, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, thank you. It's been going on like that since the end of March and it's quite unlikely there will be an improvement in the near future. I feel that many disputes could be avoided if more experienced editors/admins were working on the article or alternatively were willing to provide advice as a non-involved third parties. Gitz (talk) (contribs) 13:39, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
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Regarding this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Soibangla&diff=1101331204&oldid=1101258359
you may note on my Talk last night that I stated I was leaving the contentious topic where I was engaged in vigorous debate. I saw the feedback and I heeded it. Actually, I had already made the decision to exit. I see no reason for sanction which appears more punitive than corrective at this point. Thank you. soibangla (talk) 13:09, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- After you said that, you returned to editing 2022 Recession. I feel that the short topic ban is helpful -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 13:13, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- I said I was leaving Recession where the controversy arose, there was no controversy on 2022 Recession. I believe a sanction is unnecessarily punitive, especially for a week. soibangla (talk) 13:19, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- The locus of the controversy is determining if the United States is currently in a recession. You moved to another article within that scope. I stand by my sanction. -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 13:24, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- I said I was leaving Recession where the controversy arose, there was no controversy on 2022 Recession. I believe a sanction is unnecessarily punitive, especially for a week. soibangla (talk) 13:19, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
Please would you provide diffs that demonstrate a pattern of indisputable battleground behavior, as opposed to rigorous debate, that warrants a one week retroactive punishment, after I said I was disengaging, rather than an earlier warning to my Talk page? soibangla (talk) 13:37, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
- Mostly "inevitable vindication" coupled with with immediately jumping into the same topic area after you said you would disengage lead to the topic ban. However, these diffs ("who's-who of fake news sites", advocating that we should stop trying to reach an consensus and use your preferred version, using the talk page as a forum to discuss the general issue rather than the article) are troubling. -- Guerillero Parlez Moi 22:57, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- Speaking in the context of my stated (if unasked-for) "countersign" of the TBAN (which, I will stress, is independent of my decision to block for a straightforward violation of the TBAN, something I would have done even for a sanction I disagree with), my concerns were: 1) The generally combative tone at Talk:Recession, arguing with the IPs and throwaway accounts who everyone else was wisely either ignoring or politely explaining things to, thereby directly furthering the right-wing narrative of Wikipedia being hostile to feedback on this matter, a narrative you were well aware of, while not advancing any encyclopedic goal; 2) the unexplained and seemingly unprovoked antipathy toward the main editor who was trying to offset that; 3) "my inevitable vindication", showing a battleground mentality; 4) a nom statement at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2022 Recession that seemed to just repeat the argument ongoing at Talk:Recession without addressing any aspect of deletion policy (despite the AfD trending heavily against keeping, no !votes endorse the nom's logic), and 5) the decision to promptly reëngage on the matter shortly after being asked to disengage and saying you were done.It's not the sort of thing that would get someone a lengthy TBAN, but a week away from one very specific debate where you've had an outsized and disruptive role, while collective tempers cool, seems reasonable. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 02:21, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
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