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Huggle
Hello there - saw your post on the Huggle talk page. I will try my best to help; by "stuck at 24", do you mean it's greyed-out, or you try and save the changes but it then reverts back to 24? Patient Zerotalk 03:56, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'm probably doing something boneheaded -- I don't think I was ever able to get the font to work as expected, but the way it is stuck now makes it unusable. Options and Interface are pop-ups which are sized too big to fit on the screen -- that's since the switch to Win11. I've re-sized them as small as they will go; the working areas are visible on the screen now and the resize persists thru a Huggle restart. The Font area says 24 (printer points, I guess that is supposed to mean), not grayed-out, and that can be edited. I see no "save changes" or suchlike, and closing the "Interface" popup with the top-right "X" after I've changed that to 10 and then opening that tab again brings it up as 24 again. Huggle doesn't react to the Windows ctrl-plus, ctrl-minus, ctrl-roll-mouse-wheel to change sizes in the currently-selected window, but I've noticed other ways in which Huggle doesn't play as well with Windows as other installed programs ("apps" nowadays) do. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 09:45, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- No worries! Ah, instead of "save changes", it says "OK" on the bottom left (and "close without saving" on the bottom right) - are you able to see that when you resize the options/interface window? Personally, I'm on Linux nowadays, but I noticed the same as you - that doesn't work on Huggle for me, either. Patient Zerotalk 10:06, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Ah. My setup here isn't plain-vanilla, and that may have something to do with this. That may or may not be of interest to you -- I'll try to keep digressions to a minimum.
- Dell laptop with an additional HDMI monitor arranged to the left of the laptop. The displays are set up as what Msoft calls "extended" (not one display echoing the other), and the HDMI screen is set as the "System" screen.
- After seeing your response above, I slid the Huggle "Interface" popup back and forth between the screens. I can get it so that I can grab the window in the upper-part on the left-hand HDMI screen and slide it partway onto the laptop screen on the right so that I can see the bottom of the window there. That lets me see the two buttons on the bottom which I didn't see previously because they were off the bottom of the HDMI screen I was using. I can change the font size to 10, save changes, and the change survives a Huggle restart. However, I see no changes in the font size -- the Diff part of the main Huggle display still has too-big text. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 10:44, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Now that sounds like a rather awesome setup. :-) That also does sound like it might be what's causing the issues - I assume you're dragging the Huggle window back to your main screen after saving the changes and then the font is getting larger again (correct me if I'm wrong). I'm not sure why it's not saving the font size as 10, however... I'll ping Petrb here, and see if he knows. Patient Zerotalk 14:59, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- The setup isn't that awesome, it's just an HDMI cable connecting the laptop HDMI port to one of the HDMI ports on a flatscreen TV, and selecting that HDMI port as Input on the TV box when I want to use it as the computer display, with a keyboard and mouse in front of it connected to USB ports on the laptop. It's just that I don't see very well and I spend a lot of time sitting in front of a computer. Also, I apparently did not make myself clear above.
- The size of the characters on the screen remained unchanged throughout all of this, in the popup windows and in the main Huggle window after the popups are closed.
- what clicking the "OK" button did was save the change from the pre-save number 24 to the post-set&save number 10 om the font size box on the Interface popup. That's all that changed -- the fact that the edited number persists through closing the popup and through a Huggle restart. I don't notice a change in the size of displayed text characters anywhere.
- I just fired up Huggle and reconfirmed all of that. I also changed the Win11 setup options back to just the single laptop display and reconfirmed it that way. On just the laptop display, the Huggle Interface popup is too big to fit on the display even if sized to minimum with the corner handles, and I can never get to see the OK and No-Save (or whatever it says) boxes on the bottom margin because that is below the bottom of the display screen. I'm going to WP:Publish this edit and reboot the laptop which is now set up to use only the laptop display and see what it looks like after that. <interlude> OK, I did that. I didn't just restart -- after changing the Win11 settings and unplugging the HDMI cable, I did a power-down and restart. After that, on just the laptop, I saw no changes from what I described above, though I couldn't test it all because the "OK" button at the bottom left of the Interface popup is off the bottom of the display and inaccessible even with that window sized as small as its resize handles will let me resize it. I'm back on the two-display setup now for ease of editing. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 17:47, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry for the slow response - I can understand your reasoning behind choosing such a setup, as someone with eyesight problems myself. I understand now; apologies for the misunderstanding earlier - so whilst the number indicating the font size has changed, the font size itself actually hasn't... I think you may be right about it being a Windows 11 compatibility issue, although I'm wondering if there's some way you can "recalibrate" the screen to show more without it causing any accessibility-related interference? Patient Zerotalk 17:12, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for trying to help. I used to be up to the bleeding edge on tech stuff, but that was several decades ago and I am now far out of date. I have a few other Win11 issues I'm hoping for MSoft to address -- on this particular issue, I'll hope that a future Win11 update will fix it and, in the meantime, I'll look thru the Win11 Setup every now and then hoping to find a relevant setting I've missed or one which appears after an update. In the meantime, I'll find something other than Huggle to do with otherwise dead time in front of the computer. Cheers. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 17:27, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry for the slow response - I can understand your reasoning behind choosing such a setup, as someone with eyesight problems myself. I understand now; apologies for the misunderstanding earlier - so whilst the number indicating the font size has changed, the font size itself actually hasn't... I think you may be right about it being a Windows 11 compatibility issue, although I'm wondering if there's some way you can "recalibrate" the screen to show more without it causing any accessibility-related interference? Patient Zerotalk 17:12, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
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Philippines and History of the Philippines (1565–1898) articles
This morning, I ran across a citation of Cavite Chabacano Philippine Creole Spanish: Description and Typology in the History of the Philippines (1565–1898) article that bothered me. It's currently #46 there. It includes a long quote which cites upstream sources in harvard format without providing full cites.
Some digging turned up its appearance in this 2021 edit by @Chipmunkdavis:, the edit summary of which says that it was among content shifted from the Philippines article. A look at the Philippines article found the same cite with the long quote still present there. Further digging there led me to this 2021 edit by @Rene Bascos Sarabia Jr.:, which added the cite there apparently in response to a {{fcn}} tag which had been placed on a cite of Garcia de los Arcos, Forzados, 238. (it's just a wild guess on my part, but I'm thinking that cite might refer to this)
I have not dug deeper than that, but it occurs to me to wonder whether the extensive cite with the long quote that bothered me is still needed in either or both of these articles and, if it is, whether it can be shortened and/or the upstream sources it mentions clarified. I'm not very knowledgeable of the details of the Spanish colonial period in the Philippines, so I thought I would ping the two of you to ask you to take second looka at this.
Thanks. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 09:36, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think it is needed given it is a PhD thesis that doesn't seem to cover the information any better than the Abinales source does. I note the Abinales source calls it a "social hierarchy" rather than a "racial caste" system, although it does imply it the hierarchy was at least partially racial. CMD (talk) 10:12, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
Paracel Islands webpage
I would like to warn all esteemed readers who read the webpage Paracel Islands that they have to keep cautious about every claim in regard to this archipelago's sovereignty. Despite the recalcitrant claims of China mainland about these islands by showing off proofs based mostly on its old geographical maps, often badly drawn and unfounded, "since very long time" according to chinese words, but, many regional countries have also very long historical pasts, for millenium BC such as Champa or Vietnam too, subsequently, they could also claim the sovereignty over these islands, not only China. So, it's a very disputed legacy! Moreover, those countries underwent during their long historical pasts many events which eevry time change the sovereignty's situation (Note otherwise that never during our long historical past, the chinese openly dared to claim their sovereignty over those islands, till the reign of Gia Long(1802-1820), Nguyễn Ánh (his true name) made his official visit overthere and gave the name of Quần đảo Hoàng Sa. When the french occupied the Viêtnam in 1858 French Indochina, it sovereignty moved to France. When the japanese overthrew France on March 09,1945, paracel Islands's sovereignty passed to Japan and when Japan surrended the USA, it once again went to Washington Treaty of San Franciscoin 1951. Until the Richard Nixon official voyage to Beijing 1972 visit by Richard Nixon to China which was followed by the Paris Peace Accords on Vietnam war signed on January 27th,1973 formalizing the American withdraw of Vietnam, Beijing profited this occasion to launch a vast offensice towards Paracel Islands on January 1974 and occupied them since). So it's the Pacel Islands's history.QUOBSERVER (talk) 04:50, 29 June 2022 (UTC)QUOBSERVER--QUOBSERVER (talk) 04:50, 29 June 2022 (UTC)Quốc Anh Nguyên— Preceding unsigned comment added by QUOBSERVER (talk • contribs) 01:43, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
- I don't want to get into an exchange abut this, but try to look at it from a WP:NPOV viewpoint. Most of the above is historical. I haven't checked this against what is in the historical sections of the article but, if it is supportable and it is not in the article, that may be an issue to be discussed on the article talk page. As far as the current situation goes, it is improper for WP to make a judgement about the rights and wrongs, based on interpretation of history or based on anything else. See WP:NOT and WP:TPG. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 09:14, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
Soberanias Exitosas
Hi Mitchell, and thanks for your observation here. We certainly would not want incorrect information listed! I looked into this a bit and was getting ready to perform an actual field verification when I noticed that Worldcat lists 3 editions of this book. Do you know which edition you consulted? I could probably get one edition or the other but perhaps not both, which would be ideal. Assuming good faith in favor of the editor who added the content on 01:31, 4 November 2009, I would suspect the pages refer to the 1st edition (2008), but since the edit was done late in 2009, it could reasonably also refer to the 2nd edition (2009). The 3rd edition wasn't published until 2010. Regards, Mercy11 (talk) 04:47, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- I tried to check this quickly while looking at items on my watchlist and, though I recall trying to verify this, I do not recall details and I was not able to quickly locate the Spanish language source I looked at online. I did find this, but it is not previewable online there. Searching quickly for other sources, I found this: Collado-Schwartz, Angel (2012). "Singapore". Decolonozation models for America's Last Colony: Puerto Rico. Syracruz University Press. ISBN 978-0-8156-0963-6. That presents an interview with Juan Lara that appears to confirm your cite. I've removed that {{tl}fv}} tag and added the source I found as a second supporting cite. I am no expert on this; if you can improve on what I have done, please do so. Cheers. 10:00, 30 June 2022 (UTC)Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill)
- Hi Mitchell, Just to clarify, it wasn't "my cite" but that of an anon IP on "01:31, 4 November 2009" as I had noted above. IAE, I am with you that any sources that cannot be verified (i.e., that we have verified to the contrary) need to be either marked FV or removed altogether. You chose the first, but the second is a fair option in many cases, imo. I am OK with your removal, but because -at a minimum- it needed to be modified bc the reason you gave was partly based on a link you provided that went to a website related to food, not to politics; I am sure not what you intended! Thanks for your thoughts, Mercy11 (talk) 15:34, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi. I'm really busy on other stuff right now, so I'll leave it as is for now. Perhaps other editors will improve it. Withoug rechecking, I remember that the English language cite I added looked like it might be a translation of or closely related to the earlier cited Spanish language source. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 18:09, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- Hi Mitchell, Just to clarify, it wasn't "my cite" but that of an anon IP on "01:31, 4 November 2009" as I had noted above. IAE, I am with you that any sources that cannot be verified (i.e., that we have verified to the contrary) need to be either marked FV or removed altogether. You chose the first, but the second is a fair option in many cases, imo. I am OK with your removal, but because -at a minimum- it needed to be modified bc the reason you gave was partly based on a link you provided that went to a website related to food, not to politics; I am sure not what you intended! Thanks for your thoughts, Mercy11 (talk) 15:34, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
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