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On this page, the deletion or merging of templates and modules, except as noted below, is discussed. To propose the renaming of a template or templates, use Wikipedia:Requested moves.
How to use this page
What not to propose for discussion here
The majority of deletion and merger proposals concerning pages in the template namespace and module namespace should be listed on this page. However, there are a few exceptions:
- Stub templates
- Stub templates and categories should be listed at Categories for discussion, as these templates are merely containers for their categories, unless the stub template does not come with a category and is being nominated by itself.
- Userboxes
- Userboxes should be listed at Miscellany for deletion, regardless of the namespace in which they reside.
- Speedy deletion candidates
- If the template clearly satisfies a criterion for speedy deletion, tag it with a speedy deletion template. For example, if you wrote the template and request its deletion, tag it with {{Db-author}}.
- Policy or guideline templates
- Templates that are associated with particular Wikipedia policies or guidelines, such as the speedy deletion templates, cannot be listed at TfD separately. They should be discussed on the talk page of the relevant guideline.
- Template redirects
- List at Redirects for discussion.
Reasons to delete a template
- The template violates some part of the template namespace guidelines, and can't be altered to be in compliance.
- The template is redundant to a better-designed template.
- The template is not used, either directly or by template substitution (the latter cannot be concluded from the absence of backlinks), and has no likelihood of being used.
- The template violates a policy such as Neutral point of view or Civility and it can't be fixed through normal editing.
Templates should not be nominated if the issue can be fixed by normal editing. Instead, you should edit the template to fix its problems. If the template is complex and you don't know how to fix it, WikiProject Templates may be able to help.
Templates for which none of these apply may be deleted by consensus here. If a template is being misused, consider clarifying its documentation to indicate the correct use, or informing those that misuse it, rather than nominating it for deletion. Initiate a discussion on the template talk page if the correct use itself is under debate.
Listing a template
To list a template for deletion or merging, follow this three-step process. The use of Twinkle (explained below) is strongly recommended, as it automates and simplifies these steps. Note that the "Template:" prefix should not be included anywhere when carrying out these steps (unless otherwise specified).
Step | Instructions |
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I: Tag the template. | Add one of the following codes to the top of the template page:
Note:
Multiple templates: If you are nominating multiple related templates, choose a meaningful title for the discussion (like "American films by decade templates"). Tag every template with Related categories: If including template-populated tracking categories in the TfD nomination, add TemplateStyles pages: The above templates will not work on TemplateStyles pages. Instead, add a CSS comment to the top of the page:
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II: List the template at TfD. | Follow to edit today's TfD log.
Add this text to the top of the list:
If the template has had previous TfDs, you can add Use an edit summary such as Multiple templates: If this is a deletion proposal involving multiple templates, use the following: {{subst:Tfd2|template name 1|template name 2 ...|title=meaningful discussion title|text=Why you think the templates should be deleted. ~~~~}} You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters If this is a merger proposal involving more than two templates, use the following: {{subst:Tfm2|template name 1|template name 2 ...|with=main template (optional)|title=meaningful discussion title|text=Why you think the templates should be merged. ~~~~}} You can add up to 50 template names (separated by vertical bar characters Related categories: If this is a deletion proposal involving a template and a category populated solely by templates, add this code in the {{subst:Catfd2|category name}} |
III: Notify users. | Please notify the creator of the template nominated (as well as the creator of the target template, if proposing a merger). It is helpful to also notify the main contributors of the template that you are nominating. To find them, look in the page history or talk page of the template. Then, add one of the following:
to the talk pages of the template creator (and the creator of the other template for a merger) and the talk pages of the main contributors. It is also helpful to make any interested WikiProjects aware of the discussion. To do that, make sure the template's talk page is tagged with the banners of any relevant WikiProjects; please consider notifying any of them that do not use Article alerts. Multiple templates: There is no template for notifying an editor about a multiple-template nomination: please write a personal message in these cases. |
Consider adding any templates you nominate for TfD to your watchlist. This will help ensure that the TfD tag is not removed.
After nominating: Notify interested projects and editors
While it is sufficient to list a template for discussion at TfD (see above), nominators and others sometimes want to attract more attention from and participation by informed editors. All such efforts must comply with Wikipedia's guideline against biased canvassing.
To encourage participation by less experienced editors, please avoid Wikipedia-specific abbreviations in the messages you leave about the discussion, link to any relevant policies or guidelines, and link to the TfD discussion page itself. If you are recommending that a template be speedily deleted, please give the criterion that it meets.
WikiProjects are groups of editors that are interested in a particular subject or type of editing. If the article is within the scope of one or more WikiProjects, they may welcome a brief, neutral note on their project's talk page(s) about the TfD. You can use {{Tfdnotice}}
for this.
Tagging the nominated template's talk page with a relevant Wikiproject's banner will result in the template being listed in that project's Article Alerts automatically, if they subscribe to the system. For instance, tagging a template with {{WikiProject Physics}} will list the discussion in Wikipedia:WikiProject Physics/Article alerts.
Notifying substantial contributors to the template
While not required, it is generally considered courteous to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the template and its talkpage that you are nominating for discussion. To find the creator and main contributors, look in the page history or talk page.
At this point, you've done all you need to do as nominator. Sometime after seven days have passed, someone else will either close the discussion or, where needed, "relist" it for another seven days of discussion. (That "someone" may not be you, the nominator.)
Once you have submitted a template here, no further action is necessary on your part. If the nomination is successful it will be added to the Holding Cell until the change is implemented. There is no requirement for nominators to be part of the implementation process, but they are allowed to if they so wish.
Also, consider adding any templates you nominate to your watchlist. This will help ensure that your nomination tag is not mistakenly or deliberately removed.
Twinkle
Twinkle is a convenient tool that can perform many of the posting and notification functions automatically, with fewer errors and missed steps than manual editing. Twinkle does not notify WikiProjects, although many of them have automatic alerts. It is helpful to notify any interested WikiProjects that don't receive alerts, but this has to be done manually.
Discussion
Anyone can join the discussion, but please understand the deletion policy and explain your reasoning.
People will sometimes also recommend subst or subst and delete and similar. This means the template text should be "merged" into the articles that use it. Depending on the content, the template page may then be deleted; if preserving the edit history for attribution is desirable, it may be history-merged with the target article or moved to mainspace and redirected.
Templates are rarely orphaned—that is, removed from pages that transclude them—before the discussion is closed. A list of open discussions eligible for closure can be found at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Old unclosed discussions.
Closing discussion
Administrators should read the closing instructions before closing a nomination. Note that WP:XFDcloser semi-automates this process and ensures all of the appropriate steps are taken.
Current discussions
November 26
Template:Linguistic groups of the constitutionally recognised official languages of India
- Template:Linguistic groups of the constitutionally recognised official languages of India (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Can't see any reason for this to exist except an urge to link everything everywhere. PepperBeast (talk) 20:36, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Womens Rugby Tournament
- Template:Womens Rugby Tournament (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No longer used. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:53, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
Olympic tables
- Template:Boxing2012Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Boxing at the 2016 Summer Olympics – List of Qualified NOCs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Canoeing2012Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Diving2012Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Diving at the 2016 Summer Olympics – List of Qualified NOCs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Equestrian2012Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Fencing at the 2016 Summer Olympics – List of Qualified NOCs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Judo2012Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Judo at the 2016 Summer Olympics – List of Qualified NOCs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Shooting2004Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Shooting2008Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Shooting at the 2016 Summer Olympics – List of Qualified NOCs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Synchronizedswimming1992Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Table tennis at the 2016 Summer Olympics – List of qualified NOCs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Taekwondo2012Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Taekwondo at the 2016 Summer Olympics – List of Qualified NOCs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Weightlifting at the 2016 Summer Olympics – List of Qualified NOCs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Wrestling2012Olympics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Wrestling at the 2016 Summer Olympics – List of Qualified NOCs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
All are no longer used as they have been substituted on the articles of relevance as single-use templates. No longer needed. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:49, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Literatures of the Indian constitutionally recognised official languages
- Template:Literatures of the Indian constitutionally recognised official languages (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Not sure what t he point of this template is, and a particular author has been inserting it into articles that already have the perfectly adequate Indian literature template. PepperBeast (talk) 13:48, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:51, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
November 25
Template:GamesWorkshopCopyrightPolicy
- Template:GamesWorkshopCopyrightPolicy (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
This template was presumably created as an enwp version of the commons template c:Template:GamesWorkshop which has been deleted per c:Commons:Deletion requests/Template:GamesWorkshop. Given that the consensus is that Games Workshop has not provided a free license for the underlying copyrighted miniature figures, this template should be removed. I've checked for its usage on enwp and only File:Tau Cadre Fireblade Colasanti.jpg uses this template and that file is at FFD. Whpq (talk) 21:50, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:50, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Sailing at the 2016 Summer Olympics – List of Qualified NOCs
- Template:Sailing at the 2016 Summer Olympics – List of Qualified NOCs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No longer used as the table has been substituted on Sailing at the 2016 Summer Olympics – Qualification. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:46, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Rowing at the 2016 Summer Olympics – List of Qualified NOCs
- Template:Rowing at the 2016 Summer Olympics – List of Qualified NOCs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No longer used. Table has been substituted on Rowing at the 2016 Summer Olympics. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:44, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:QING-S
- Template:QING-S (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Unused. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:43, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Pair Mechanics
- Template:Pair Mechanics (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No links and unused. Has been sitting around since June 12, 2014. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:42, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Ottawa Voyageurs roster
- Template:Ottawa Voyageurs roster (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No longer used. Already substituted on main team article. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:36, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:NBL Cup 2020–21 - Team's Page
- Template:NBL Cup 2020–21 - Team's Page (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Unused. And just article and already replaced by actual standings template used on the respective teams' 2020-21 season articles. The redirect page Template:NBL Cup 2020-21 - Team's Page should be deleted along with this in order to not have the bot recreate it. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:31, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Book of Mormon therefore v wherefore
- Template:Book of Mormon therefore v wherefore (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Single use graph template. Subst in article Mosiah priority and delete. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 10:14, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:59, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:National Executive Board of the Boy Scouts of America 2011
- Template:National Executive Board of the Boy Scouts of America 2011 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Single use template which has just a simple table. Subst and delete. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 09:59, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:59, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:OA table header
- Template:OA table header (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No transclusions, incoming links, documentation, or categories. Created in 2013. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:37, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:59, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
November 24
Template:Hawthorn best and fairest (AFL Women's)
- Template:Hawthorn best and fairest (AFL Women's) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
A template with one entry, for a non notable award. Fram (talk) 13:23, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:26, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:49, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep – this is ridiculous; it's an AFLW club best and fairest award that at least warrants mentioning in the player's article, even if the award isn't considered ready to have its own article yet, so what's wrong with/what's the rule against having a navbox? 4TheWynne (talk • contribs) 01:01, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I can't find an indication of how many times an annual award must be awarded before it gets a navbox and article. The award is clearly going to be awarded every year that the team exists. Hawthorn was just slow getting in to AFLW. The fact that there has only been one winner so far still carries information. --Scott Davis Talk 12:41, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- For a navbox, the absolute minimum would be two, one would think (I wouldn't create it before there were at least three or four instances of something notable, but that's personal opinion). Or perhaps we can start creating navboxes for all clubs which don't have such an award at all? The fact that there has been no winner so far still carries information as well. Fram (talk) 13:39, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- It has two links - the award and the first winner. I agree I wouldn't have created it yet either, but as others have said, it will be created next season or the one after anyway. --Scott Davis Talk 03:26, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- For a navbox, the absolute minimum would be two, one would think (I wouldn't create it before there were at least three or four instances of something notable, but that's personal opinion). Or perhaps we can start creating navboxes for all clubs which don't have such an award at all? The fact that there has been no winner so far still carries information as well. Fram (talk) 13:39, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep as per User:4TheWynne – especially as it will just be recreated next year/season, or the year/season after by the logic above. Storm machine (talk) 01:56, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:30, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Russian–Chinese Winter Youth Games
- Template:Russian–Chinese Winter Youth Games (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Fails NENAN. Only three links. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:44, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- There is no point in deleting any wikipedia article because it has inadequate sources. If in this case, then many articles would have been deleted Sharontse121 (talk) 07:59, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete only 3 blue links (plus the article name itself), which is not enough to justify a template. Especially as all 3 blue links are currently being discussed for deletion, and seems likely that they'll be deleted. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:02, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Short track speed skating at the Russian-Chinese Winter Youth Games
- Template:Short track speed skating at the Russian-Chinese Winter Youth Games (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Only one link to an article that is the subject of an Afd. Above all else, fails NENAN. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:42, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Gymnastics at the 2016 Summer Olympics – Qualified NOC's
- Template:Gymnastics at the 2016 Summer Olympics – Qualified NOC's (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Unused chart/table. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:32, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:The Cinécoles Short Film Prize at the Marrakech International Film Festival Awards
- Template:The Cinécoles Short Film Prize at the Marrakech International Film Festival Awards (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Only one link. Fails NENAN. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:31, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Golden Star Grand Prize Short Film at the Marrakech International Film Festival Awards
- Template:Golden Star Grand Prize Short Film at the Marrakech International Film Festival Awards (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Special Jury Prize Short Film at the Marrakech International Film Festival Awards (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Unused and no links to any film articles. Even on the main article there are no links to articles on any short film winners and will likely not pass notability. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:29, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Cite letter/core
- Template:Cite letter/core (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Citation/core/web (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Citation/core/news (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Citation/core/episode (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Citation/core/book (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No transclusions. Presumably, this was orphaned when the parent template was converted to Lua in approximately 2013. – Jonesey95 (talk) 07:24, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:03, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. —andrybak (talk) 01:26, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Historical content top
- Template:Historical content top (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No transclusions or documentation. Created in 2013, but appears to have not been adopted or to have been superseded and replaced by templates like {{cot}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 07:18, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:03, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Mf-big
- Template:Mf-big (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links. Created in mid-2021. – Jonesey95 (talk) 07:09, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:03, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Most populous cities of Gabon
- Template:Most populous cities of Gabon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No transclusions. The information exists in a better table at Gabon, the only article where this template is usable. – Jonesey95 (talk) 07:08, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:03, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Ntsgaps
- Template:Ntsgaps (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No transclusions. The only incoming link from a discussion refers to this template as "temporary". – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:53, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:03, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:TCACycle WP78 offset
- Template:TCACycle WP78 offset (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No transclusions, incoming links from discussions, categories, or documentation. Created in 2010. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:32, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:03, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:TAU
- Template:TAU (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No transclusions. The entire contents of this template are Τ
. It also appears to be redundant to {{tau|uc=true|noitalic=true}}
. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:24, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:03, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Tissue distribution of estradiol and other estrogens
- Template:Tissue distribution of estradiol and other estrogens (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No transclusions, incoming links from discussions, or documentation. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:20, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:03, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Tracklisting/Track
- Template:Tracklisting/Track (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No transclusions. This is an unused subpage of a redirect that has been a redirect since 2011. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:19, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:03, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Willmonitor
- Template:Willmonitor (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links from discussions. Created in 2018. Does not appear to have been adopted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:16, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:03, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:F1 race position 2
- Template:F1 race position 2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No transclusions, documentation, or incoming links. Created in June 2022. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:10, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:03, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
November 23
Template:2026 FIFA World Cup qualification – CONMEBOL table
- Template:2026 FIFA World Cup qualification – CONMEBOL table (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Single use template. Subst and delete. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:41, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
- The table is important to keep up with the eventual updates for the 2026 FIFA World Cup qualifiers for the South American sector. There is no point to ask for its removal, as it is a essential way to inform readers, researchers and even the supporters of the participating national association football teams. 2804:14D:BE8A:94AA:1DFF:142A:B6FA:99F8 (talk) 19:37, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- IP, I'm aware that the table is important. However, you'll notice that it'll be moved to the article space as I said it'll be "Substited and deleted". The information will not be lost, but the template is not needed. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:34, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:31, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 16:13, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep per IP above - the table will likely be used in multiple articles in due course. Substing now goes against its purpose. GiantSnowman 16:14, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- @GiantSnowman: We can transclude sections as has been precedent for previous year tables. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:31, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 22:52, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Edward W. Hardy
- Template:Edward W. Hardy (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Little used template, created by a now stale sockpuppet of Maximum023. There are four separate links to The Woodsman but they are are all links to the same article. Other mentions on this template are to articles by sockpuppets that have now been deleted. There are two films where he is listed as a violinist but he is not mentioned at the articles. Liz Read! Talk! 21:50, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:18, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete: I came across this about 18 months ago and noted that a bunch of SPA editors seemed to be creating a walled garden of articles about the subject; it's no surprise that they have all been confirmed as socks of each other. As the nominator states, there is really only one article here, repeated four times: the other three bluelinked articles don't mention the subject at all, so there is nothing to navigate here. Richard3120 (talk) 01:37, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete not enough useful links, for the reasons explained by the nom. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:47, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:WTournament
- Template:WTournament (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
per the deletion discussion of template:wrcode, we don't need to include these numbers. Frietjes (talk) 20:39, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:18, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Per nom. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 19:24, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:WomenRugbyUnionReport
- Template:WomenRugbyUnionReport (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
redundant to template:rugbybox Frietjes (talk) 18:27, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:18, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Per nom. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 19:24, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:2000-01 International Baseball League of Australia
- Template:2000-01 International Baseball League of Australia (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:IBLA (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Propose merging Template:2000-01 International Baseball League of Australia with Template:IBLA.
Merge into {{IBLA}}. Single season with one-off teams does not need own navbox per WP:NENAN. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:33, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Merge per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:18, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Xpd family of templates
- Template:Xpd (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Xpd1 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Xpd2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Xpd3 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No transclusions. {{Xpd0}} is being deleted, and it is part of this family of templates that work together. There were only two or three transclusions of the whole family, which I have replaced with the much more common {{demo}} and {{demo inline}}. These can all be deleted now. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:41, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- delete, no longer needed. Frietjes (talk) 18:00, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:17, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Jonesey95, what exactly is the problem with the templates? The alternative, {{demo}}, is more flexible, but it's awful to have to type the pair of nowiki tags with each template invocation. For simple cases,
{{xpd|template}}
is so much easier to use than the bletcherous{{demo|<nowiki>{{template}}</nowiki>}}
. What am I missing here? – Uanfala (talk) 21:01, 24 November 2022 (UTC)- The templates do not have any problems, except perhaps for their inscrutable names. Their function is redundant to the more full-featured {{demo}} and (except for a couple of experimental usages that I have replaced) the templates are unused. Those are reasons 2 and 3 at WP:TFD#REASONS. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:28, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. {{Xpd}} is a useful template for a niche that can't be served by {{demo}}, has had some actual use until yesterday, has been around since 2006 (which is 8 years before {{demo}} got created) and exists on about 50 other wikis. All of that points to a number of scenarios where deleting this template may break things or inconvenience editors, so I don't think this should be done unless there's some serious counterbalancing harm from its existence, and none has come up so far. I'm assuming those considerations would apply to the other 3 templates in this family, so barring any exceptional circumstances, they should be kept too. – Uanfala (talk) 23:47, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:1994 FIFA World Cup groups talk
- Template:1994 FIFA World Cup groups talk (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No transclusions. This page appears to have been used in the templates listed at this TFD. It's not quite a speedy G8, but it is pretty close. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:49, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:14, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 19:38, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, not used or needed. GiantSnowman 19:41, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:17, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
November 22
Template:Division of Bass InteractiveMap
- Template:Division of Bass InteractiveMap (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Unused map. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:10, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:National parks of Tasmania interactivemap
- Template:National parks of Tasmania interactivemap (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Single-use template. The notice supports substitution stating "This template is intended to be placed within an article, like an image (map with a frame)." WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:09, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Weak Keep: Although this is a single-use template, it is common to put exceedingly intricate code, like this and railway routemaps, into templates so that the map does not get broken and so that the wikitext of the article is not overwhelmed by code. This is definitely not article prose. Ideally, we would have a tradition of using article subpages for technical single-article content like this, but we do not. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:06, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Marstime
- Template:Marstime (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Mars2020time (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Created a little over a year ago as an experiment. Used in one editor's test page; no other transclusions. Userfy or delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:55, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. If the creator requests userfying I have no objection, but I don't think we should do it preemptively. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:19, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Userfy can be done at any other time. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:11, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- The pages were not created as an experiment, but to convert the times given by NASA as Mars local time to Earth time. At the page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ingenuity_(helicopter)/Archive_1 there was a longer discussion about "date of 6th flight being May 23 UTC". Since NASA used JPL (=Califonia) local time and date and not saying it, there were lots of wrong secondary sources. I proposed to use my template in the talk page but without reaction. I did not pushed afterwards but converted the dates on my local page and copied the result in the article. --Schrauber5 (talk) 18:47, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:WTA Tier I tournaments
- Template:WTA Tier I tournaments (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Consensus was reached to merge {{WTA Tier I tournaments}} to {{WTA_1000_tournaments}}. Requesting to delete {{WTA Tier I tournaments}}. Qwerty284651 (talk) 15:43, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:10, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:COVAX-AMC donors
- Template:COVAX-AMC donors (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Single-article content with no template parameters. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:35, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Subst and delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:19, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:10, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Copacon
- Template:Copacon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Unused and redundant Spanish-language version of an existing tournament bracket template. Likely created from an existing es.WP template without attribution. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:33, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:19, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:No significant coverage (sports)
- Template:No significant coverage (sports) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Duplicate of Template:Notability and Template:Unreferenced, looks to have been made to be specifically WP:POINTY about sports articles. The process for articles without significant coverage is AFD, there is no need for a sports-specific template for this. Do not ping me with replies to this, as I am watching this page. Joseph2302 (talk) 13:24, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. WP:SPORTSCRIT #5 creates a requirement for sports articles to include at least one source containing WP:SIGCOV. This template is intended to help track articles that don't meet that, as an alternative to redirecting them or immediately nominating them for deletion.
- It supplements Template:Notability in a similar manner to Template:Unreferenced, and it doesn't duplicate Template:Unreferenced as an article can have sources without having sources that contain significant coverage.
- If this template is deleted the more general Template:No significant coverage should also be deleted. BilledMammal (talk) 13:33, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- It doesn't need a separate template specifically for sports articles though, when general existing templates suffice perfectly adequately. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:59, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Different requirements apply to sports biographies than apply to general articles. I also believe sorting sports biographies into a separate category will make it easier for interested sports editors to identify articles they may be able to find sources for. BilledMammal (talk) 15:10, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- It doesn't need a separate template specifically for sports articles though, when general existing templates suffice perfectly adequately. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:59, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Agree with BilledMammal that this is a useful template.
- Keep It's useful to track sports articles specifically and also remind editors of the special sourcing requirement. –dlthewave ☎ 14:37, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep This fills a useful niche. It's not redundant to {{notability}} because it more clearly specifies the problem is sourcing, not one of the non-source-based SNG and removes what some would say is an implied obligation to do a WP:BEFORE before tagging. It's not redundant to {{unreferences}} for reasons explained above. It might be reasonable to merge Template:No significant coverage with Template:No significant coverage (sports) following the same logic in which {{notability}} takes a parameter to differentiate types of articles rather than the separate Template:Notability (sports). * Pppery * it has begun... 17:20, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- The difference between these templates and the notability template is that these templates add sports biographies to an additional category, but that should be possible to keep even after merging.
- However, do you know if it is possible to create a template redirect that automatically adds a parameter? BilledMammal (talk) 01:37, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Not possible, no. In most such cases you make a shell template and optionally make it subst only. Izno (talk) 01:43, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- That said, there's not much need for this. It's just as easy to type
{{no significant coverage|sports}}
as{{no significant coverage (sports)}}
. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:38, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- That said, there's not much need for this. It's just as easy to type
- Not possible, no. In most such cases you make a shell template and optionally make it subst only. Izno (talk) 01:43, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: Good grief. You might as well say that ALL warning templates above Level 1 are "pointy," and with just as much justification. (And, frankly, to the degree that chowderheads keep on creating stubs and sub-stubs without the slightest intention of ever sourcing them, giving them a measure of trout slapping is all to the good.) Moreover, "[t]he process for articles without significant coverage is AFD" would be just as valid ground for eliminating ALL notability tag templates; has the nom nominated those as well? Beyond the other comments, though, the nom might be unaware that sports biographies form a hugely disproportionate block of articles, with the count at one point being one biographical article in seven being of soccer players. Not one in seven being sports articles; one in seven being of just ONE sport. Ravenswing 19:21, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Note Not agreeing or disagreeing, but there were missing words in the doc and poorly written English. I have corrected those issues. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:36, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Merge per Pppery. --Izno (talk) 19:41, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - I think this template is useful for tracking these biographies that need improvement to meet SPORTBASIC and puts the article creator on notice without actually starting the deletion process. Jogurney (talk) 21:36, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep, per all of the above. JoelleJay (talk) 02:52, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep. I'm sympathetic to the idea that this template could be considered WP:POINTY, but imo it'd be pointier to just take an article straight to AfD. This seems like a better middle ground that encourages people to add better referencing rather than immediately starting the deletion process. OliveYouBean (talk) 04:15, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Comment. If this template is used to tag the thousands of sports bios sourced only to comprehensive databases, it has real value and I support keeping and using it. However, if it is plastered on articles where there is simply a good-faith dispute as to whether or not other, non-database sources have sufficient depth, it would not be productive IMO and would add to a battleground atmosphere. Cbl62 (talk) 20:07, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Glory (Britney Spears album) tracks
- Template:Glory (Britney Spears album) tracks (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
unused Muhandes (talk) 12:27, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:19, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:09, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:English National Badminton Championships
- Template:English National Badminton Championships (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Per consensus established at Wikiproject Badminton, this template is now redundant. Requesting deletion. zoglophie 07:23, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:09, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Second batch of New Jersey county commissioner templates
- Template:NJ Bergen County Commissioners (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Camden County Commissioners (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Cape May County Commissioners (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Cumberland County Commissioners (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Essex County Commissioners (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Essex County Freeholders (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Gloucester County Commissioners (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Hudson County Commissioners (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Hudson Commissioner District 8 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Hudson Commissioner District 9 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Hudson County Executive (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Hunterdon County Commissioners (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Jersey City Commissioner Districts (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Mercer County Comissioners (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Warren County Commissioners (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Violates WP:TG by storing article text. All templates should be substed and deleted. This is a follow up of November 3 TFD, same rationale applies here. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 07:49, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:40, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep (Same as above) I agree with comments made by Alansohn in the previous discussion (November 3 TFD of New Jersey commisioner templates). These templates make it significantly easier to update information across "literally" hundreds of pages. But if you are volunteering to individually change every single NJ municipal page when new officials are elected, be my guest and delete these. JerseyThroughandThrough (talk) 06:56, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- WP:TG says
Templates should not normally be used to store article text, as this makes it more difficult to edit the content.
which is why the previous templates were correctly deleted, and exactly why these should all be deleted too. Article text should be in articles not templates. If you need repetition of text in multiple articles, use section transcluson. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 13:38, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
- WP:TG says
- Keep One only has to look at the aftermath of the last wave of deletions to see the truly disruptive nature of these TfDs. There are 40 articles that used the now-defunct Template:NJ Burlington County Freeholders, all of which have been substituted with the content of the template, as at this edit by our nominator, along with 39 others. When the information that was in that template changes, as it will in January, it's impossible to update the data by making ONE edit to ONE template. Now FORTY articles need to be updated one-by-one and the content needs to be kept in sync across all FORTY articles, not ONE template. Wikipedia is worse off for this senseless wave of deletions, as the deletion of the template makes it more difficult to edit the content; FORTY times more difficult. Alansohn (talk) 16:55, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Exteremely useful for maintaining up-to-date information in multiply article that changes regularly, thus of great benefit to encylopedia. Djflem (talk) 07:11, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep: I agree with Djflem points as well. They allow for rapidly changing information to be updated without having to sift through hundreds of pages at a time. GigachadGigachad (talk) 17:57, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete as per the previous TFDs, and use WP:SELECTIVETRANSCLUSION if the same text is needed in multiple articles. The purpose of templates is navigation, not storing article text. Note to closer: All of these above keep votes are in violation of WP:TG, as they are based on "it's too much work to use a proper method of doing it". And any post saying the change needs to be made 40 times anytime you update is factually incorrect, as WP:SELECTIVETRANSCLUSION allows it to be changed once and applied everywhere. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:57, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- So then what is this doing at TFD? If indeed the method of storage is the problem then that should have been taken to the talk pages of the templates to be discussed or been actually been added to the articles using a different one. Deletion will only lead to the loss of the information/content, which is not the the point of the contention, and lead to the loss of years of work and damage the encyclopedia. Djflem (talk) 04:59, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- TFD is correct procedure for deletion of templates. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:23, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- The problem here is that there are some people here trying to build a functioning encyclopedia and have been using these templates for the past 17 years, fully in keeping with the purpose of Wikipedia:Template namespace, which states that its purpose is "to store templates, which contain Wiki markup intended for inclusion on multiple pages, usually via transclusion." and Help:Template, which states that the purpose of templates is to "contain repetitive material that might need to show up on a larger number of articles or pages." Those pushing for deletion consistently misrepresent these guidelines and push for the elimination of templates that make editing far easier and the result of the previous cycle of deletions only proves this. All that's necessary is to look at this edit and dozens upon dozens of articles just like it, in which the nominator substituted the template {{NJ Burlington County Freeholders}} and replaced it with thousands of characters of text, making the process of editing the content orders of magnitude more difficult. The consensus is that these templates should be retained, the arguments for deletion are specious and not based on policy, and the net result of previous TfDs only shows the disruptive impact of these needless deletions. Alansohn (talk) 22:10, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- How does address the loss of valuable content? Djflem (talk) 06:11, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- TFD is correct procedure for deletion of templates. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:23, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- So then what is this doing at TFD? If indeed the method of storage is the problem then that should have been taken to the talk pages of the templates to be discussed or been actually been added to the articles using a different one. Deletion will only lead to the loss of the information/content, which is not the the point of the contention, and lead to the loss of years of work and damage the encyclopedia. Djflem (talk) 04:59, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per previous. --Izno (talk) 21:56, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Same reason for relisting the legislature templates.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:42, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I've seen many articles that have out of date content like this, and this ensures information is accurate. Reywas92Talk 15:43, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete This is article text that does not belong in a template. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:19, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- So the issue is with the form, not the content, the loss of which would detrimental to the project. That appears to be at cross-purposes with building improving and maintaining an up-do-date enyclopedia. The issue should have been brought up at concerned talk pages, not TfD. Djflem (talk) 06:10, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- There will be no loss of content if these are deleted, since they will be substed or converted to selective transclusion. TFD is the right venue for this. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 13:43, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Will certainly be lost if deleted. Or are you planning to do the conversion before they are? Djflem (talk) 21:05, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- All one has to do to see the utter purposeless disruption of these deletions is to look at this edit, where ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ carefully subst'ed the content of {{NJ Atlantic County Freeholders}} and replaced it with 5,664 characters of content from the template into two dozen articles. It turns out that a bot found in edit that three of the sources that had been in the template were no longer accessible. Those sources would now need to be updated in each of the 23 articles and not just once in the template. The utter pointlessness of these deletions are obvious, but the usual crowd is pro-deletion, regardless of the negative impact. These deletions are disruptive and destructive, plain and simple, with no effort to implement any of the alleged alternative solutions. Alansohn (talk) 20:14, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- There will be no loss of content if these are deleted, since they will be substed or converted to selective transclusion. TFD is the right venue for this. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 13:43, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- So the issue is with the form, not the content, the loss of which would detrimental to the project. That appears to be at cross-purposes with building improving and maintaining an up-do-date enyclopedia. The issue should have been brought up at concerned talk pages, not TfD. Djflem (talk) 06:10, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
New Jersey legislative templates
- Template:NJ Legislative 01 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 02 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 03 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 04 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 05 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 06 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 07 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 08 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 09 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 10 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 11 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 12 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 13 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 14 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 15 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 16 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 17 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 18 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 19 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 20 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 21 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 22 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 23 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 24 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 25 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 26 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 27 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 28 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 29 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 30 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 31 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 32 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 33 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 34 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 35 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 36 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 37 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 38 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 39 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Legislative 40 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Not real templates, stores article text which is a violation of WP:TG. All templates should be substed and deleted. Same rationale as in November 3 TFD of New Jersey commisioner templates applies. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 09:32, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:40, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep (Same as above) I agree with comments made by Alansohn in the previous discussion (November 3 TFD of New Jersey commisioner templates). These templates make it significantly easier to update information across "literally" hundreds of pages. But if you are volunteering to individually change every single NJ municipal page when new officials are elected, be my guest and delete these. JerseyThroughandThrough (talk) 06:56, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep These templates make it significantly easier to add information to the hundreds of pages where it they included., thus keeping them up-to-date after election cycles. Djflem (talk) 16:55, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- WP:TG says
Templates should not normally be used to store article text, as this makes it more difficult to edit the content.
which is why the previous templates were correctly deleted, and exactly why these should all be deleted too. Article text should be in articles not templates. If you need repetition of text in multiple articles, use section transcluson. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 13:38, 17 November 2022 (UTC)- What is the suggestion you are making? How does that work? And who is going to do it?Djflem (talk) 06:56, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- Can you link to 'section transclusion'? Djflem (talk) 06:57, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Djflem: see WP:SELECTIVETRANSCLUSION. Hassium#Introduction to the heaviest elements is an example in article. It doesn't make sense to delete only half of the related templates, while ignoring others that meet the same criteria. Pings to other participants of the previous TFD @PerpetuityGrat, Joseph2302, and Pppery:. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 11:59, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- So you in favour deleting the years of work that has gone into these templates, but are unwilling to do the work to transfer them to your preferred method of keeping the text? Djflem (talk) 16:19, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- When did I say I am unwilling to do the work of transferring them out of template namespace? As Alansohn has said below, I was the one who enforced the previous TFD outcome, which was to subst the templates [1]. I can help with substing or converting to selective transclusion if that's what this TFD results in. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 13:53, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- So you in favour deleting the years of work that has gone into these templates, but are unwilling to do the work to transfer them to your preferred method of keeping the text? Djflem (talk) 16:19, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Djflem: see WP:SELECTIVETRANSCLUSION. Hassium#Introduction to the heaviest elements is an example in article. It doesn't make sense to delete only half of the related templates, while ignoring others that meet the same criteria. Pings to other participants of the previous TFD @PerpetuityGrat, Joseph2302, and Pppery:. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 11:59, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- Can you link to 'section transclusion'? Djflem (talk) 06:57, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- What is the suggestion you are making? How does that work? And who is going to do it?Djflem (talk) 06:56, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- WP:TG says
- Keep One only has to look at the aftermath of the last wave of deletions to see the truly disruptive nature of these TfDs. There are 40 articles that used the now-defunct Template:NJ Burlington County Freeholders, all of which have been substituted with the content of the template, as at this edit by our nominator, along with 39 others. When the information that was in that template changes, as it will in January, it's impossible to update the data by making ONE edit to ONE template. Now FORTY articles need to be updated one-by-one and the content needs to be kept in sync across all FORTY articles, not ONE template. Wikipedia is worse off for this senseless wave of deletions, as the deletion of the template makes it more difficult to edit the content; FORTY times more difficult. Alansohn (talk) 16:54, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
- Not true, you can use WP:SELECTIVETRANSCLUSION to have the same text in multiple articles, and so you still only have to update it once. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:37, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- Even if you didn't have selective transclusion, it's a strong wiki smell when someone says "here's article content put in 40 places". We have hyperlinks: use those instead. There's nothing special about this content that requires it be transcluded everywhere. Izno (talk) 21:57, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete as per the previous TFDs, and use WP:SELECTIVETRANSCLUSION if the same text is needed in multiple articles. The purpose of templates is navigation, not storing article text. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:37, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- So you are willing to transfer the material and the years of work gone into them to your preferred method of keeping the text? Djflem (talk) 16:20, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- Not "my preferred method", the one that follows Wikipedia guidelines. You don't get to just ignore template guidelines because you feel like it. And nope, I have no subject interest so won't personally be doing it, but it is a fix that ought to be done by someone. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:54, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- And you don't feel like doing anything to save the hard work put into information, and ignore the fact they improve of the articles in which it's included (and thus the encyclopedia) and prefer to see it deletion, which is damaging. Djflem (talk) 20:10, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- The people who should be fixing it are the people who violated template guidelines in the first place, and the people with subject knowledge/interest. Neither of which is me. Stop trying to make this about me, rather than about Wikipedia's template guidelines, which you appear determined to ignore. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:30, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- And you don't feel like doing anything to save the hard work put into information, and ignore the fact they improve of the articles in which it's included (and thus the encyclopedia) and prefer to see it deletion, which is damaging. Djflem (talk) 20:10, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- Not "my preferred method", the one that follows Wikipedia guidelines. You don't get to just ignore template guidelines because you feel like it. And nope, I have no subject interest so won't personally be doing it, but it is a fix that ought to be done by someone. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:54, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- So you are willing to transfer the material and the years of work gone into them to your preferred method of keeping the text? Djflem (talk) 16:20, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per previous discussions and stated template guidelines. --Izno (talk) 21:55, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: It would be nice for hosts to selectively transclude these templates' sentences from to be specified.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:28, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I've seen many articles that have out of date content like this, and this ensures information is accurate. Reywas92Talk 15:43, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete This is article text that does not belong in a template. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:19, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- So the issue is with the form, not the content, the loss of which would detrimental to the project. That appears to be at cross-purposes with building improving and maintaining an up-do-date enyclopedia. The issue should have been brought up at concerned talk pages, not TfD. Djflem (talk) 06:12, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- There will be no loss of content if these are deleted, since they will be substed or converted to selective transclusion. TFD is the right venue for this. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 13:43, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Certainly will be if deleted. Are you planning to do the conversion before they are? That certainly would have been a solution before proposing TfD. Djflem (talk) 21:06, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- You seem to be incapable of understanding how TFDs work. Nothing will be lost because the templates will not be deleted until they are replaced by subst or selective transclusion. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 08:53, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- All one has to do to see the utter purposeless disruption of these deletions is to look at this edit, where you systematically subst'ed the content of {{NJ Atlantic County Freeholders}} and replaced it with 5,664 characters of content from the template into two dozen articles. It turns out that a bot found in edit that three of the sources that had been in the template were no longer accessible. Those sources would now need to be updated in each of the 23 articles and not just once in the template. The utter pointlessness of these deletions are obvious, but the usual crowd is pro-deletion, regardless of the negative impact. These deletions are disruptive and destructive, plain and simple, with no effort to implement any of the alleged alternative solutions. Alansohn (talk) 20:15, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- You seem to be incapable of understanding how TFDs work. Nothing will be lost because the templates will not be deleted until they are replaced by subst or selective transclusion. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 08:53, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
- Certainly will be if deleted. Are you planning to do the conversion before they are? That certainly would have been a solution before proposing TfD. Djflem (talk) 21:06, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- There will be no loss of content if these are deleted, since they will be substed or converted to selective transclusion. TFD is the right venue for this. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 13:43, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- So the issue is with the form, not the content, the loss of which would detrimental to the project. That appears to be at cross-purposes with building improving and maintaining an up-do-date enyclopedia. The issue should have been brought up at concerned talk pages, not TfD. Djflem (talk) 06:12, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
New Jersey senate and congress templates
- Template:NJ Senate (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Congress 01 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Congress 02 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Congress 03 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Congress 04 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Congress 05 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Congress 06 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Congress 07 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Congress 08 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Congress 09 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Congress 10 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Congress 11 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Congress 12 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:NJ Congress 13 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Not real templates, stores article text which is a violation of WP:TG. All templates should be substed and deleted. Same rationale as in November 3 TFD of New Jersey commisioner templates applies. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 09:51, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:40, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep I agree with comments made by Alansohn in the previous discussion (November 3 TFD of New Jersey commisioner templates). These templates make it significantly easier to update information across "literally" hundreds of pages. But if you are volunteering to individually change every single NJ municipal page when new officials are elected, be my guest and delete these. JerseyThroughandThrough (talk) 06:56, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- WP:TG says
Templates should not normally be used to store article text, as this makes it more difficult to edit the content.
which is why the previous templates were correctly deleted, and exactly why these should all be deleted too. Article text should be in articles not templates. If you need repetition of text in multiple articles, use section transcluson. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 13:38, 17 November 2022 (UTC)- Explain 'section transclusion' and link to it please, since that is your suggestion solution.Djflem (talk) 06:58, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- All one has to do to see the utter purposeless disruption of these deletions is to look at this edit, where ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ carefully subst'ed the content of {{NJ Atlantic County Freeholders}} and replaced it with 5,664 characters of content from the template into two dozen articles. It turns out that a bot found in edit that three of the sources that had been in the template were no longer accessible. Those sources would now need to be updated in each of the 23 articles and not just once in the template. The utter pointlessness of these deletions are obvious, but the usual crowd is pro-deletion, regardless of the negative impact. These deletions are disruptive and destructive, plain and simple, with no effort to implement any of the alleged alternative solutions. Alansohn (talk) 20:16, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
- WP:TG says
- Keep One only has to look at the aftermath of the last wave of deletions to see the truly disruptive nature of these TfDs. There are 40 articles that used the now-defunct Template:NJ Burlington County Freeholders, all of which have been substituted with the content of the template, as at this edit by our nominator, along with 39 others. When the information that was in that template changes, as it will in January, it's impossible to update the data by making ONE edit to ONE template. Now FORTY articles need to be updated one-by-one and the content needs to be kept in sync across all FORTY articles, not ONE template. Wikipedia is worse off for this senseless wave of deletions, as the deletion of the template makes it more difficult to edit the content; FORTY times more difficult. Alansohn (talk) 16:54, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep These templates make it significantly easier to add information to the hundreds of pages where they included, thus keeping them up-to-date after election cycles. They are of great benefit to the encyclopedia, despite claim.Djflem (talk) 07:02, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete as per the previous TFDs, and use WP:SELECTIVETRANSCLUSION if the same text is needed in multiple articles. The purpose of templates is navigation, not storing article text. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:36, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Can somebody help the keep voters learn alternative ways of doing these templates' jobs?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 04:23, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete This is article text that does not belong in a template. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:19, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Timeline Tour de France Winners
- Template:Timeline Tour de France Winners (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Single mainspace use template. Izno (talk) 03:22, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Subst and delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:19, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:07, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Timeline Vuelta a España Winners
- Template:Timeline Vuelta a España Winners (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Single use template. Izno (talk) 03:03, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Subst and delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:19, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:07, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
November 21
Template:NYCS station
- Template:NYCS station (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Replaced by Module:Adjacent stations/New York City Subway. Cards84664 23:06, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. – Epicgenius (talk) 20:51, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:07, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:ATP Masters Series
- Template:ATP Masters Series (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Redundant to {{ATP Masters tournaments}}. Qwerty284651 (talk) 18:33, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:07, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Wrugbybox
- Template:Wrugbybox (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
redundant to Template:rugbybox. after the deletion of Template:Wrcode, the "code" and "test#" parameters are not needed. Frietjes (talk) 17:47, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- @PeeJay, Rugbyfan22, and Bcp67: who participated in the wrcode discussion. Frietjes (talk) 17:49, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Per nom. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 17:57, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to {{rugbybox}} - Deleting this template would remove a lot of content from women’s rugby union articles. It’s imperative that we not delete this template until we can work out how it would affect the hundreds of pages it appears on. Otherwise, I support the premise of this nomination. – PeeJay 23:11, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- Merge per PeeJay. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:07, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Quando Rondo
- Template:Quando Rondo (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Wikipedia:NENAN, three links is still less than the five customarily required targets. Was already deleted following this discussion. Muhandes (talk) 17:06, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:07, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Infobox route diagram
- Template:Infobox route diagram (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Obsolete and no longer in use. All remaining links to this template are discussions or index listings. Useddenim (talk) 00:39, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:07, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
November 20
Template:2009 NCAA Division I FCS independents football standings/doc
- Template:2009 NCAA Division I FCS independents football standings/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
No longer used on the main template page since yesterday. A doc page for a standings template isn't necessary. All categories and information are going to be edited and displayed on the main template space. A doc page is counterintuitive for a template like this. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:13, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Ted
- Template:Ted (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Navbox created by blocked sockpuppet. Redundant to {{Seth MacFarlane}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:24, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Enough links for a navbox and there is a franchise associated with Ted despite the creation by the sockpuppet. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:17, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 05:08, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete 5 link navboxes may at times be justified but if all the links are included in another navbox, as is the case here, I don't see a reason to have two different ones. --Trialpears (talk) 22:09, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per Trial. --Izno (talk) 21:53, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
November 19
Template:New user article
- Template:New user article (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
Pointless template. Most uses (such as the one I removed from Talk:Pregnancy Outcome Prediction (POP) study) are no longer new. New page patrollers are capable of evaluating for themselves whether an article is new and the appropriate level of courtesy to give to the creator. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:37, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:24, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Template:Current U.S. representatives from Alabama
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Alabama (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Alaska (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Arizona (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Arkansas (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from California (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Colorado (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Connecticut (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Florida (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Georgia (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Hawaii (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Idaho (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Illinois (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Indiana (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Iowa (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Kansas (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Kentucky (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Louisiana (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Maine (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Maryland (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Massachusetts (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Michigan (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Minnesota (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Mississippi (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Missouri (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Nebraska (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Nevada (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from New Hampshire (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from New Jersey (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from New Mexico (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from New York (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from North Carolina (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Ohio (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Oklahoma (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Oregon (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Pennsylvania (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Rhode Island (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from South Carolina (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Tennessee (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Texas (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Utah (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Vermont (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Virginia (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Washington (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from West Virginia (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
- Template:Current U.S. representatives from Wisconsin (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages · delete)
All are single-use or have just two uses. All should be substituted on respective articles. Based on previous discussions of unused templates like these on July 12 and November 6 these tables should not be on a separate template space since this violates the policy on article content being transcluding through template space. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:40, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete all per previous discussions. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:37, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep all as creator. Per the July 12 discussion. I don't see what issue these are causing. Please read the July 12 discussion, as I'm at a place with really bad internet connectivity (Special:Diff/1119220089), and will not be able to engage in a lengthy discussion. —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 09:48, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- You've already been told why these tables should not be in template space. This is clearly article content. All of this can be part of an article without using a transclusion function. These were not created because of article size issues or make it easier to display information. Updates to current representatives to the U.S. Congress can be done so on the respective articles. And you've been told in the July 12 discussion why it's not okay to do so. "Templates should not normally be used to store article text, as this makes it more difficult to edit the content. They should also not be used to "collapse" or "hide" content from the reader." It literally says it on the TMP page, the first bullet point in the guidelines section which you claim it never did. This is one of those times where such template transclusion is not an exception. And for single-use, there is no point in creating a template for only one article. It can just be part of the article. This has been a standard practice for a long time on Wikipedia. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:24, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
- Hi, they aren't supposed to be single use, and I've said that before. Also, as a courtesy please ping on future replies. Thanks! —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 15:29, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- You've already been told why these tables should not be in template space. This is clearly article content. All of this can be part of an article without using a transclusion function. These were not created because of article size issues or make it easier to display information. Updates to current representatives to the U.S. Congress can be done so on the respective articles. And you've been told in the July 12 discussion why it's not okay to do so. "Templates should not normally be used to store article text, as this makes it more difficult to edit the content. They should also not be used to "collapse" or "hide" content from the reader." It literally says it on the TMP page, the first bullet point in the guidelines section which you claim it never did. This is one of those times where such template transclusion is not an exception. And for single-use, there is no point in creating a template for only one article. It can just be part of the article. This has been a standard practice for a long time on Wikipedia. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:24, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
Old discussions
November 16
Template:John Cain Jr sidebar
Unused sidebar with no documentation or incoming links from discussions. I looked at the main article and was unable to determine what this sidebar might reasonably contain. OK to userfy if it is in development. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:10, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95 Hello, sorry about that, I created it and forgot about it. I have added the bulk of content. While there's still a bit more to add it should be up to standard. - GA Melbourne (talk) 00:39, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep - since nomination, the template has been populated with content and is now featured on main space articles.- GA Melbourne (talk) 07:22, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
- Keep Now that the issues from the nomination have been fixed and are now being used on related articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:44, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Consists only of inter-article links or links to articles that barely mention Cain. Just clogging space ITBF (talk) 11:25, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:52, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per ITBF. --Izno (talk) 01:03, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
- delete, provides very limited bidirectional navigation. Frietjes (talk) 18:02, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per ITBF and Frietjes. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 17:36, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
Completed discussions
A list of completed discussions that still require action taken on the template(s) — for example, a merge between two infoboxes — can be found at the "Holding Cell".
For an index of all old and archived discussions, see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/Archives.