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New Year wishes
Hi Scope Creep, trust you had a good Christmas, and would like to wish you and your family a Happy New Year. We can make it that way, even if the weather is not too bright at the moment! Kind regards, Neils51 (talk) 21:18, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Neils51: Thanks. I hope you and your family have a great year in 2023. scope_creepTalk 21:27, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
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Celine Tendobi
Hello, @Scope creep !
I trust you are doing well. In the past few months, I have been participating in the Women in Red project to help increase the number and bridge the gap in women's representation on Wikipedia. Unfortunately, creating content on Women in the down South have never been easy.
I recently submitted Celine Tendobi along with others through AfC. Unfortunately, it was declined. I will be grateful if you could help with deep search for reference to improve the article for re-submission. Best wishes. Atibrarian (talk) 16:04, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Atibrarian: I see it has been promoted. If you have any problems the next time, please ping me. scope_creepTalk 12:01, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for your willingness to help! I Will sure keep in touch.
- In the meantime, you might want to see this if there is a way to help with it.
- Thanks for your time and effort. Regards
- Hi @Atibrarian: I see it has been promoted. If you have any problems the next time, please ping me. scope_creepTalk 12:01, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
Atibrarian (talk) 19:23, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Atibrarian: I see it has been rejected. Once its too four reviews and its not improved, its rejected. I can't do nothing here. scope_creepTalk 23:17, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
Request for when you get a chance
Castellane was once on the PNT list and never got re-reviewed after I finished it. I am pretty sure it isn't start class any more. I wonder if you would submit it for me, then let me know how to do this myself, as there are one or two others I might want to submit; I find myself wanting validation after being so so falsely disparaged in the RfA. As in, Jublains archeological site was cut and pasted French and therefore was draftified, mumble. But whatever. I don't care much about gold stars in the abstract but maybe a few would come in handy the next time someone says I "claim" to be a translator. Elinruby (talk) 21:46, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Elinruby: That seems to be article that is already in mainspace. scope_creepTalk 23:19, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- It is but it has changed a great deal since it was rated. It's not start class, right? How do I go about getting it re-rated? Elinruby (talk) 23:25, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- come to think of it the Jublains article was submitted through AfC, do I understand your point that this one doesn't need to be submitted and so might not be what you do. Should I nominate it as a good article? I am sure it has formatting problems that I would then be expected to fix though. Any suggestions? Elinruby (talk) 23:30, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- You can rerate it yourself using the Wikipedia:Content assessment. Its unlikely anybody will rerate it again, so do it yourself. I think it is probably a C-class. It has a couple of citations needed added and the images at the bottom needed to added into a gallery, so they are displayed properly. I would remove the "In the city of Castellane" image as it looks like a road junction, and move all the left-hand images into the gallery. I don't think it needs a map, since it already has a set of coords. In fact it has two coords and one needs removed. Once that is done, it will probably be good enough for b-class rating. Hope that helps. scope_creepTalk 23:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
I see the coordinates in the infobox; where were the other ones? I was going to just take care of that suggestion while I ave the article open, but I don't see it. On an unrelated note, I need a definition of "fit to work on". It is sounding to me that you want to come in when it's more finished and work on format? Is that a correct assessment? Rubricaire now has 4-5 references besides Mërimée, but I wouldn't call it fully referenced, especially now that I've discovered that the bishops had a beef with Herbert Wake-the-Dogs, Count of Maine. THAT seems worthy of inclusion ;) ByTheDarkBlueSea on the other hand seems to want to do translation and isn't available this week, so if I am going to explore sources and leave the translation to him, it will be a week or two. Is the point where I should ping when it isn't a rough translation anymore and it doesn't need a copy-edit? Just let me know; there is no correct answer to this question. Thanks. 02:27, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Elinruby: Its a single coord. It seems to be fine. My mistake. scope_creepTalk 13:20, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
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Thank you for tidying Ihor Huk (surgeon). I noticed you removed the infobox. I also know that there is, sometimes, some controversy about infoboxen. Would you mind saying why it went, please? I have no strong feelings either way, I find them a useful summary, but inessential. I'm interested, not disputing. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 15:43, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Timtrent: I couldn't see a ref for the date of birth or place of birth that I can see and what is there is fairly generic once the dob/place is gone. There is a rough conensus that infoboxes need to be well populated to be useful or it seems to be more a hindrence than anything else for readers that use phones, if its just a wee block.. Once there is proper references it can go back with better detail like and so on. I wouldn't have moved it out of draft until the problems were fixed. For example, that whole "public life" section could probably happily go, until somebody updates the article when there is several obits available. It is completely disjointed and has no career/life/bio structure. For example
Dr Huk is involved in the Transplantation Centre in Zaporizhya
has a ref to https://www.zsmu.net/ It doesn't mention him. This sentence,Huk successfully performed stent surgery on the Patriarch Filaret (Patriarch Filaret)in Vienna in 2015
What primate is that. It is linked to a disamb but it seems to be Filaret (Denysenko). That section is a serries of events instead of a biographical block. I think it needs a serious copyedit. Hope that helps. scope_creepTalk 16:46, 17 January 2023 (UTC)- It does. Thank you. I felt, too, that it was a borderline accept, but that it would get the attention it needs in mainspace, or find itself at AfD. Your points of criticism are all valid. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 16:52, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Timtrent: I couldn't see a ref for the date of birth or place of birth that I can see and what is there is fairly generic once the dob/place is gone. There is a rough conensus that infoboxes need to be well populated to be useful or it seems to be more a hindrence than anything else for readers that use phones, if its just a wee block.. Once there is proper references it can go back with better detail like and so on. I wouldn't have moved it out of draft until the problems were fixed. For example, that whole "public life" section could probably happily go, until somebody updates the article when there is several obits available. It is completely disjointed and has no career/life/bio structure. For example
Touching base
Your recent post about Vichy France at Mathglot's page reminded me: I noticed Rote Kapelle on your user page and wondered what is going down on with that. When I was working on Liberation of France with Mathglot I volunteered for the part about the maquis, and encountered a whole list of "escape lines" for downed servicemen and/or Jewish civilians, and wondered if you found that, or were interested. I can probably put my hands on it rather quickly if you are still interested but haven't seen it.
On Jublains, I haven't heard from ByTheDarkBlueSea. I'll check to see if they have started work but just haven't pinged anyone. If not, would you like me to move one of the drafts forward, and if so which one? If you're happy with what you're doing right now that's fine too, of course .Elinruby (talk)
- @Elinruby: Yes, I'm still working on the Red Orchestra stuff. I've mostly done the main article Red Orchestra over the last couple of year, but still to do the Rote Drei article at some point, perhaps later on in the year. I'm still working through the red orchestra people, you can see on the list, the templates at the bottom, there is loads of folk that need articles, including the ones of my user page. The last article I did there was Medardo Griotto as it an article on the web. Käte Voelkner could be done quite quick as it has a de wp article. There is plenty to do there. I would really appreciate any help in that area. The maquis stuff, I've too much going on but something to look at later on. I don't known if anybody has looked at that. Its a really interesting subject. You've piqued my interest. I also don't mind working on one of the drafts. scope_creepTalk 00:10, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- well, I hadn't heard of the Red Orchestra to know if they had direct ties to the maquis, but it seems possible since some of the escape lines went through the low countries for servicemen trying to get back to England. I'll see if I can shoot you a link or two sometime soon. I didn't get too deeply into that at the time, as we were more focussed on colonial solders in Algeria, or at least I was. It caught my attention though, since apparently one of the houses we lived in in France was part of one of these underground railroad lines. Just something the neighbors told us. Anyway, I might well be interested in helping, but my German is nowhere near as good as my French. I'll do some reading, though, and see if I have any intelligent suggestions to make. Elinruby (talk) 00:26, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- Slightly related: had you heard of this story? Rescue of the Danish Jews Elinruby (talk) 01:29, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Elinruby: No. Could be worth updating. It seems to need a ton of references. Fancy working on that? scope_creepTalk 12:15, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- I could. Haven't actually looked at the article. Was intrigued by the story when I found a book about it. But if it's interesting and needs work, that's kind of my niche. I could take a look at the referencing and see what would be involved, I guess. Elinruby (talk) 18:56, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
The article Allangrange Mains has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
Unclear what the claim to notability is for this farm. The only reference is to a map depicting it.
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I note you have offered an opinion on several "List of songs in Foo by Bar" articles. I'm afraid I nominated a significant number yesterday. Your opinion is welcome whether the same as or different from mine on any others you choose to comment upon. I hope some are worth saving.
I may continue later by nominating some more today. It feels churlish to do so, yet I feel bound to nominate those which I feel unlikely to merit inclusion. It is still my hope that others may find them worth improving such that they can be kept. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 09:55, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Fiddle Faddle: I sent one of these list articles to Afd last year, in the year before I reviewed one on a NPP review, and I have another one currently at afd. so I feel as though I'm involved. I think they are all slightly different but most of them unsourced. You can't in this day and age have list article and not have all the line entries sourced. That is the consensus. I' working on updating Cameron Prize for Therapeutics of the University of Edinburgh to add a ref per line. That article has been on my todo list for about 5 years, so its not a new consensus, its much older than that. 2014-2015 was about the first I heard you had to ref each entry. So there is no reason to create these lists in that manner, apart from expediency. I was done as fast as possible. On your second point, Yes, I understand. That is reason I never !voted on the original Telegu list article you Afd'd, the ones in the songs in the Telegu language. It was well ref'd. Its very hard to update these list articles and it puts folks off, as it take a huge amount of time to reference them properly. You have a duty of care to nominate them, if its necessary and let the community decide. You can't leave a mess hanging around. scope_creepTalk 12:06, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Fiddle Faddle: I would maybe wait until these pan out, see what the reaction is. scope_creepTalk 12:22, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
- I chose not to wait, on a purely arbitrary basis. I saw that your signature failed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Kannada songs recorded by P. Susheela, and wonder if you would take a moment to regularise it.
- By firing a shotgun at them I chose to let the community make a great many decisions. I am sure it will get some right and others wrong. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 15:34, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- I think I have upset a small niche set of editors by nominating this lot. It's perplexing that an editor who joined in 2006 has less grasp than they ought of policy, and such a strangely thin skin to consider what you said to be a personal attack.
- Anyway, there's a whole slew more on the 24th 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:08, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Fiddle Faddle: I will take a look at them. You always upset somebody eventually, vested interests effectively. It is one of the vectors that perhap end up killing Wikipedia. scope_creepTalk 22:11, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Well, when it does kill it, I think we can say "It was good while it lasted"
- I treat this place as a very weird and arcane hobby, and one that actually does good beyond what we all do.
- I don't mind upsetting folk, but I also work in the basis that I care enough to try to get things right, but not that much that I get bent out of shape over things where the lunatics are running the asylum. After all, we might be the lunatics! 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:17, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- BTW great work on the Prizewinners list. I looked at helping out and failed to find refs for the couple I tried 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 22:27, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, it takes a ton of work to find references for lists like this. Slow work. I'm look at the 24th. See what I can see. scope_creepTalk 22:28, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- I am wondering whether the creating editor needs an editing restriction to prevent their creating articles in mainspace. I tend to detest those since they make de facto extra AFC work, plus a tedious AN/I discussion. It is also a WP:CIR matter, conceivably NOTHERE and ICANTYHEARYOU 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 14:30, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- It could potentially be a CIR issue. It might be worth mentioning it at the admin noticeboard, not the incident noticeboard. It does seem more and more work is being created for folk and nothing has been done about it. scope_creepTalk 14:34, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- I think it would probably be politically wise to away the close of the numerous AfDs, of which two more today 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 14:53, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- Yea, it would be best see how it pans out. scope_creepTalk 14:56, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- A useful intervention. "No consensus"surprised me as well. As, I think, did weighting policy based arguments equally with ILIKEIT arguments. Time will tell.
- I never mind a close based on an obvious policy based consensus even when I am in full disagreement with the application or interpretation of those policies 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 17:13, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- I had a chat with Vanamode93 about the closes. I thought they should have been left open to try and get some kind of conensus formed for deletion or redirect. I think it was moving in that direction. Seven of them have been deleted and there seemed to be conseneus for those didn't have attached WP:BLP's. I intend to take one of them to WP:DRV today, probably, if I get time to see what the outcome is. I don't think there is any problem about re-Afding them at some point. We do need to have discussion regarding the editor and why he is creating these types of articles. The editor obviously think they are important, but the way they way they are pressented on WP is useless effectively from an encyclopeadic standpoint. scope_creepTalk 17:29, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- As nominator I think I will watch the DRV you choose with interest. I may or may not participate.
- I'm still awaiting outcome of the majority of the discussions before wandering over to (eg) AN. What I don't particularly wish to do is to make the discussion behaviour based. I'd rather it were topic based, and ended offering guidance, not sanctions 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 18:03, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Timtrent: I think it needs to be topic based. The editor is more than capable of writing good to excellent articles that are well referenced, they are capable of doing it. In the case I suspect it was the size and complexity of tracking these songs down and reference each one individually, the enormity of the work that is the core of it. It would take weeks or more likely months to do each article. Yip, Topic based is ideal get them refocused somewhere else. scope_creepTalk 09:39, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- It's moot, now. The editor concerned has been sock blocked. Somehow this was always going to happen. This or something else to make the choice too lose their editing privileges. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 18:43, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Timtrent: So I see. It was madness, socking like that to save those articles. I understand why he did it, but so blatant. scope_creepTalk 19:39, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- Most are gone, but a surprising number have been either retained or no consensus was reached. Some remain to close soon.
- Not really sure what to do next to remove the remaining ones. I don't think I can re-AFD without being seen to be pointy 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 11:53, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Timtrent: I think it needs to be topic based. The editor is more than capable of writing good to excellent articles that are well referenced, they are capable of doing it. In the case I suspect it was the size and complexity of tracking these songs down and reference each one individually, the enormity of the work that is the core of it. It would take weeks or more likely months to do each article. Yip, Topic based is ideal get them refocused somewhere else. scope_creepTalk 09:39, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
- I had a chat with Vanamode93 about the closes. I thought they should have been left open to try and get some kind of conensus formed for deletion or redirect. I think it was moving in that direction. Seven of them have been deleted and there seemed to be conseneus for those didn't have attached WP:BLP's. I intend to take one of them to WP:DRV today, probably, if I get time to see what the outcome is. I don't think there is any problem about re-Afding them at some point. We do need to have discussion regarding the editor and why he is creating these types of articles. The editor obviously think they are important, but the way they way they are pressented on WP is useless effectively from an encyclopeadic standpoint. scope_creepTalk 17:29, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yea, it would be best see how it pans out. scope_creepTalk 14:56, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- I think it would probably be politically wise to away the close of the numerous AfDs, of which two more today 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 14:53, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- It could potentially be a CIR issue. It might be worth mentioning it at the admin noticeboard, not the incident noticeboard. It does seem more and more work is being created for folk and nothing has been done about it. scope_creepTalk 14:34, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- I am wondering whether the creating editor needs an editing restriction to prevent their creating articles in mainspace. I tend to detest those since they make de facto extra AFC work, plus a tedious AN/I discussion. It is also a WP:CIR matter, conceivably NOTHERE and ICANTYHEARYOU 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 14:30, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Fiddle Faddle: I will take a look at them. You always upset somebody eventually, vested interests effectively. It is one of the vectors that perhap end up killing Wikipedia. scope_creepTalk 22:11, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
I will send this article List of songs recorded by Geeta Dutt to Afd now and see what what happens. The last Afd on this didn't address policy questions. scope_creepTalk 18:26, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- That is it sent. scope_creepTalk 18:31, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- There are times when the closer really needs a supervote in order to seek to enforce policy, but I accept all the reasons why it is a bad idea. I have added my opinion about WP:V 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 18:49, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- See what happen I guess. An admin may close and then it will be case of waiting a month or two to try again, explaining how nothing has changed. scope_creepTalk 18:58, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Timtrent: That's it closed. Some admin will let it run to try and gain consensus but closing admin that wasn't interested. It's closed in a no-consensus state, so that mess will be left for some months with nobody to work on it, or update the article, since the creation editor is blocked. I guess its a matter of waiting and do another set of Afd's in 3 or 4 months time. I would keep a list of those articles that are in that state for the moment and bide your time. There is not much else you can do. scope_creepTalk 13:40, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- The list is in my AfD stats. I suppose there was an inevitability about it 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 19:25, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- @Timtrent: That's it closed. Some admin will let it run to try and gain consensus but closing admin that wasn't interested. It's closed in a no-consensus state, so that mess will be left for some months with nobody to work on it, or update the article, since the creation editor is blocked. I guess its a matter of waiting and do another set of Afd's in 3 or 4 months time. I would keep a list of those articles that are in that state for the moment and bide your time. There is not much else you can do. scope_creepTalk 13:40, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- See what happen I guess. An admin may close and then it will be case of waiting a month or two to try again, explaining how nothing has changed. scope_creepTalk 18:58, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- There are times when the closer really needs a supervote in order to seek to enforce policy, but I accept all the reasons why it is a bad idea. I have added my opinion about WP:V 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 18:49, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- That is it sent. scope_creepTalk 18:31, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
SC Staaken
Hey, I reverted your move to draft at SC Staaken--the creator actually already opened an AfD to preempt further moves to draft, so at this point it's clear that they object to moves to draft and you should proceed to AfD. signed, Rosguill talk 22:44, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Rosguill: How goes it? Where is the Afd template then ? The article was moved to draft under WP:IAR, as they are no effective sources on that article and it shouldn't be in mainspace. All the source are off database generated pages, which effectively makes it a copy and paste article. scope_creepTalk 22:50, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Given that the AfD page looked like this, I figured the best solution would be to close the AfD and anticipate that either Onel would open an AfD or that the next reviewer would note the history and move to AfD rather than draft in the event that it didn't pass review. signed, Rosguill talk 23:53, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- I tried my best User:Rosguill to follow the afd format. I followed the directions and it didn't work.KatoKungLee (talk) 02:04, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
- Given that the AfD page looked like this, I figured the best solution would be to close the AfD and anticipate that either Onel would open an AfD or that the next reviewer would note the history and move to AfD rather than draft in the event that it didn't pass review. signed, Rosguill talk 23:53, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- Hi @Rosguill: How goes it? Where is the Afd template then ? The article was moved to draft under WP:IAR, as they are no effective sources on that article and it shouldn't be in mainspace. All the source are off database generated pages, which effectively makes it a copy and paste article. scope_creepTalk 22:50, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
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Hi, as you have voted for deletion of the article Rahul Chimanbhai Mehta and you have mentioned that man doing his job but you did not gave the proper reason why had voted for deletion . so i request you to please share your reason about deletion and I request you to please check the subject on this parameter WP:GNG as the subject have a significant media coverage from different reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Thanks and regards Info.apsharma (talk) 05:56, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
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Hello, Scope creep!
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Upon further reflection, my tone regarding your comment was perhaps too initially defensive. We may disagree on whether or not a particular article is acceptable for keeping on Wikipedia, but that does not mean that I do not like you, or disparage your contributions to Wikipedia. Please accept these Stroopwafels as a peace offering. — Moops ⋠T⋡ 20:39, 25 February 2023 (UTC) |
- @Moops: There was never a loss of peace at any stage, but thanks. scope_creepTalk
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Good work
I applaud you, genuinely, for your withdrawal of the nomination on that MfD. It takes a rare editor to be able to self reflect and take action in that manner, especially as quickly as you did. :) — Moops ⋠T⋡ 01:16, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Amen, further applause. Hopefully no hard feelings, and I can see how you thought the essay was written because of your AfD, so it was me who wasn't assuming good faith. Came by to ask you and Moops if you would do another read of the essay. I've edited it quite a bit since yesterday (you did spurn me on to do that - thanks! - and were correct that it was in pretty bad shape) and would enjoy some feedback. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:09, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Moops: Thanks. @Randy Kryn: I shouldn't have nominated it and wasted your time. scope_creepTalk 22:04, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- ? Not wasted at all. It made me go in and work on the essay, trimming it, editing, etc. That's worth a thanks. I know you probably won't agree with the content but would appreciate your comments or criticism. I've got a See also I'll add in. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:05, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Moops: Thanks. @Randy Kryn: I shouldn't have nominated it and wasted your time. scope_creepTalk 22:04, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
If you are still interested in Gallo-Romans
Rubricaire, a related site to Jublains, is in mainspace now. It's a more technical article, mostly about the baths, but I thought I'd let you know.
It has a number of references, but rather few for its length, and is correctly flagged for that. I am not sure if English-language references exist, but it's still a close translation of very stiff French, if you are in the mood to copy-edit.
If not, no worries; I am working on it slowly. I need a break from the edicts of Charlemagne right now but I am confident that the French being the French, all of the factual statements are sourceable from Gallica if nothing else, so don't delete any claims for that yet. Elinruby (talk) 19:02, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Elinruby: I see why it would be slowly. I'll take a look. Good bit of work to decode a lot of it. Where was it translated from? scope_creepTalk 19:08, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- French Wikipedia. I've already deleted some meaningless Frenchness, and encourage you to do that if it seems appropriate (see last sentence for example). Please also feel free to ask questions/flag confusing text. The major question in my mind would be whether that one phrase means bricks edging the road or bricks whose edges have something unusual about them. I am pretty sure it's the former, but it's a question I had. Elinruby (talk) 19:24, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
Thank you for your thoughts on my draft
Hi @Scope creep, thank you so much for your comments on my draft! Could you be so kind as to tell me how the article can be improved (apart from the comments you have left on the draft review)? Even though I’ve thoroughly read WP:NPOV, I’m struggling to understand the parts of the article that aren’t neutral. Have I editorialised something by mistake? Or given undue weight? I wrote the article chronologically aiming to meet WP:GNG and not WP:NACTOR, but I can fix that by bringing all notable points to the top. I plan to rewrite the draft later today in a much much more neutral tone. May I ping you to take a look after I'm done? It’s been months of work verifying the offline sources and trying to match the tone and style of other businesswomen articles on Wikipedia. Or would it be advisable for me to instead revert the draft to a stub which was what I started with and just leave the bare minimum WP:THREE references that make the subject notable? 2405:201:1006:E279:AD51:5B41:14A4:8ECE (talk) 06:24, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
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ce review paraphrase request
@ the article Avret Esir Pazarları copy edit support from you and another user has been great. About their (the another user) one sentence ce update seem to making a bit more complex issue too simplistic. The sentence discussed @ Talk:Avret Esir Pazarları#re-paraphrasing (mainly sourced from scholar Zilfi) is in context of previous sentence in the paragraph, IMO need to reflect complexity.
If you can spare time for paraphrasing better and need to discuss original source, I can support with original quotes as required. Seeking your help in making the sentence more nuanced.