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Tati language
Hello.
There is a false indication that the Tati language is a southwestern Iranian language, whereas actually it is a northwestern Iranian language. Even if you look at maps that show the areas where Tati speakers are approximately located, none of the areas are in southwestern Iran. In fact, they are mostly in the northwest of Iran and some Tati speakers currently exist in the Republic of Azerbaijan. Please consider changing "Southwestern Iranian language" to "Northwestern Iranian language". Thank you, Unsung0044 (talk) 02:15, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
- Living in northwestern Iran does not equal speaking a northwestern Iranian language. For example, Balochi is a northwestern language spoken in southeastern Iran. Sorry, but if WP:RS says that Tati is southwestern Iranian, then it is southwestern Iranian. --HistoryofIran (talk) 11:06, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
Esmail Qasemyar and "International Journal of Social Science and Humanities Research"
Hello! A big request to express your opinion in this discussion. I guess Esmail Qasemyar's article and this journal don't meet the requirements described in WP:RS. KoizumiBS (talk) 07:16, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hi. I will check it later, bests. --HistoryofIran (talk) 12:18, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
Tigranes The Great: Pompey and submission to Rome
Hello again. In a article about Tigranes II is a literally contradictory title saying Tigran was only "formal" ally and actually was client state of Rome (named in all sources ally, not client state), while Pontus is named everywhere directly client state. "He[Tigranes] was not a 'client of Rome' as it is sometimes averred. He had bought off Pompeius and was not in any sense a tribute-paying king." |The kingdom of Armenia, Chahin, M., 1912-| LexaneAlex (talk) 15:09, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- Please use the talk page of the article for this, and please provide more context. I havent touched the article that much and in some time, so I dunno/cant remember what youre specifically referring to. HistoryofIran (talk) 15:18, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- "In late 66 b.c., Pompey advanced toward Armenia. Realizing that it was pointless to resist, Tigranes met Pompey and placed the diadem (crown) at Pompey's feet as a sign of submission. Pompey replaced the crown on his head, thereby allowing Tigranes to reign by his own (and the Roman People's) permission." --Ancient Rome: A Military and Political History, Christopher S. Mackay, Cambridge University Press, page 138.
- Definition:
- Sounds like a client-king to me. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:15, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
Dear, Kansas Bear, I cited you words of a historian who was specified in Tigranes The Great and history of Armenia at all, and still then why is Pontus directly called client state while Armenia an ally LexaneAlex (talk) 18:57, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- Christopher S. Mackay, Department of History and Classics, published by Cambridge University Press. Either you can not or did not read the quote I posted. Your loss. --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:04, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- "Pompey was well aware that Tigranes would be of more value to Rome as ruler of his ancestral kingdom than as an exhibit would prevent either monarch from becoming a menace to Roman rule. Tigranes, therefore, was received into the camp, where, after making obesance he was informed of the terms imposed by the conqueror." --Rome Rule in Asia Minor, Volume 1, David Magie, Princeton University Press, page 357.
- "Lucullus had often talked about his great days in the East. He claimed that his campaigns had so weakened Mithridates and Tigranes that Pompey with his much greater resources had little more to do than round them up. He was at least half right. Tigranes readily submitted to Pompey without a fight." --Roman Realities, Finley Hooper, Wayne State University Press, page 227.
- "However , when Pompey arrived , the elder Tigranes submitted and was restored to his throne..." -- The Cambridge History of Iran, A.D.H. Bivar, volume 3, issue 1, Cambridge University Press, page 47. --Kansas Bear (talk) 19:23, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- Well, I guess we'll reach the WP:CONSENSUS here then. I have quite a few sources about Armenia, so it's fortunately pretty easy to find stuff; "Unable to save Artasat, and in order to prevent its sharing the fate of Tigranakert, Tigran II agreed to make his submission to Pompey from whose hands he received back the royal diadem, thus acknowledging the Roman protectorate over Armenia. The peace of 66 B.c. stripped Tigran of all his conquests in Syria, Phoenicia, Mesopotamia, Atropatene, Cilicia, Kommagene and even Sophene, reducing his realm to Greater Armenia proper. A formidable indemnity of 6,000 talents plus additional gifts to each of the Roman soldiers was required of Armenia, and the younger Tigran, to whom Sophene had first been offered but who continued to prove untrustworthy, was sent with his family to Rome to be displayed in Pompey’s triumph (Plutarch, “Pompey,” xxxiii, pp. 202/3-204/5). In spite of this, the situation was by no means desperate. Pompey proclaimed Tigran II a friend of the Roman people, thus halting any further attacks on the Armenian heartland, which remained untouched, and even returned to him considerable territories in Mesopotamia. Still bearing the title of King of Kings, acknowledged to him by Pompey, in spite of the objections of Parthia, Tigran II ruled peacefully for another decade before dying in extreme old age in 56 or 55 b.c." - page 59, The Armenian People From Ancient to Modern Times, Volume I: The Dynastic Periods: From Antiquity to the Fourteenth Century, Richard G. Hovannisian
- I feel like Chahin often makes fringe claims. --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:47, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
Queens of Persia
Hi. First of all, thanks for correcting my mistake on the article about Kavad I. I was simply following what was appearing on the Persian page, which incidentally does not mention that Newandukht was a fictional figure. That needs to be corrected. On the other hand, I was wondering if you could take a look at list of queens of Persia. I have tried to expand it based on the available information and sources on hand, similar to list of monarchs of Persia. I think it would benefit from a review, and maybe you could correct some errors or add missing people. Cheers. Keivan.fTalk 21:50, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hello. Sorry, but I'm not sure what the goal of this article is. It says "This is a list of queens of Persia (queens regnant and queens consort) of the Iranic peoples, in present-day Iran, some of whom were known by the royal title Shahbanu." But then lists Parthians, Medes and other queens during when a time Iran/Persia was not the political/official name of the state? (well, technically Persia was never used). --HistoryofIran (talk) 00:22, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- I did not personally choose "Persia" to be included in the name, but it is clear to me that it is a reference to the geographic location or landscape. It's basically the same way list of monarchs of Persia has Parthians, Medes, and monarchs from other dynasties such as Rashiduns and Abbasids included. An alternative name for both pages could be considered through an RM or the opening sentences could be reworded, but content-wise I think they are fine because these people held power over what is present-day Iran. Keivan.fTalk 04:11, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- I understand, but I am still not too fond of both articles tbh. Anyways, I'll add List of queens of Persia to my watchlist and see what I can later do. --HistoryofIran (talk) 11:15, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
- I did not personally choose "Persia" to be included in the name, but it is clear to me that it is a reference to the geographic location or landscape. It's basically the same way list of monarchs of Persia has Parthians, Medes, and monarchs from other dynasties such as Rashiduns and Abbasids included. An alternative name for both pages could be considered through an RM or the opening sentences could be reworded, but content-wise I think they are fine because these people held power over what is present-day Iran. Keivan.fTalk 04:11, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
Do you have any Social media i wanna talk about Urartu +Tigranes maps
Do you have any Social media i wanna talk about that maps ArturMusheghtyan (talk) 20:11, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- You can just write to me here. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:17, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Bro at First that Urartu map isnt fake but it was in a small moment of history but it was so i dont understand why do you deleting it. And second even wikipedia says that Tigranes realy controled Persia (watch list of wars involvoing Armenia Great parthian campagine) so i again dont understand why you deleted that map ArturMusheghtyan (talk) 20:24, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
- If you believe you're so right, then surely you have WP:RS to back it up? Wikipedia can't be used as a source, which is fortunate, since the article List of wars involving Armenia is a WP:POV nest. --HistoryofIran (talk) 20:33, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Could you be please check out my sandbox talk
Could you be please check out my sandbox talk. It is related to Sarduri II article expanding LexaneAlex (talk) 10:25, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
Zooming
Hi HistoryofIran: "zooming in just removes all the text." Can I ask what web browser you are using? I use Google Chrome, and zooming works fine... पाटलिपुत्र (Pataliputra) (talk) 05:13, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Hello. I also use Google Chrome. I guess I could have been more clear; By zooming I meant clicking on the image. --HistoryofIran (talk) 12:58, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Ahhhh OK. How does this one work? पाटलिपुत्र (Pataliputra) (talk) 13:02, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- This is better. But sorry, why does the infobox need two maps? I really think it's overkill, especially since I don't think (respectfully) think this map brings more to the table. Why not have a more detailed version of [1] instead? --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:04, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Country infoboxes have been designed to have two maps ("map_image" and "map_image2"). One map can provide the global geopolitical context, the second one can focus on the detailed geography of the specific country with its cities etc... It is often difficult to get a sense of the actual expanse of a territory and its geopolitical situation without a broader contextual map... पाटलिपुत्र (Pataliputra) (talk) 13:13, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
Country infoboxes have been designed to have two maps ("map_image" and "map_image2").
- Yes, but that doesn't mean that it should be used, which it very rarely is to start with it.
It is often difficult to get a sense of the actual expanse of a territory and its geopolitical situation without a broader contextual map...
- I mostly agree with this, though it's ultimately a map of the described dynasty/kingdom/empire, thus I don't think that much focus should be put into its geopolitical situation, especially not by showing almost three continents. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:00, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Country infoboxes have been designed to have two maps ("map_image" and "map_image2"). One map can provide the global geopolitical context, the second one can focus on the detailed geography of the specific country with its cities etc... It is often difficult to get a sense of the actual expanse of a territory and its geopolitical situation without a broader contextual map... पाटलिपुत्र (Pataliputra) (talk) 13:13, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- This is better. But sorry, why does the infobox need two maps? I really think it's overkill, especially since I don't think (respectfully) think this map brings more to the table. Why not have a more detailed version of [1] instead? --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:04, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
- Ahhhh OK. How does this one work? पाटलिपुत्र (Pataliputra) (talk) 13:02, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
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Hi, about asking your opinion and Sarduri II
Hello, dear Historyofiran. I don't know why you reverted my changes even not checking anything with some kind of negative notes. You mentioned that "even you admitted yourself that this is plagiarism". You could just check that I fully rewrote whole content of text. And I gave credit as well LexaneAlex (talk) 16:01, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
- I see, you did try to alter it, my bad; I did actually look but I misread it somehow. Though it was still considered plagiarism here [2]. --HistoryofIran (talk) 17:17, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
So can I revert it back or no? LexaneAlex (talk) 22:39, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Not if it was considered plagiarism by an admin too. This for example, is more or less the same word for word just changed places a bit; "His conquest of the remainder of Commagene and Urartu's complete victory over Assyria in Mannai are proudly described in a second 500-line tablet." / "Another 500-line text describes with pride his conquest of the rest of Commagene and Urartu's complete triumph over Assyria in Mannai." See WP:PLAGIARISM for more info. --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:42, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
Latest Revert
I made a edit to "Religion in Armenia" which I edited the percentage because they weren't correct but you decided to revert them. I have now edited it back and please don't change it for I searched on sites and even calculated the numbers to get this result. Artasheshian (talk) 13:13, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
- Not how it works. You need to cite reliable sources for this, you cant just alter already sourced information because you did your own supposed searches. --HistoryofIran (talk) 14:00, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
Category:Sasanian governors of Egypt has been nominated for merging
Category:Sasanian governors of Egypt has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:16, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
GAN
Hi there, hope you're doing well. I have a request: would it be possible for you to do some reviews at GAN? At the moment, you have 59 GAs and a few more up for nomination, but you haven't done any reviews. This would also help with your placing in the queue, which has been reordered so that people with a higher ratio of reviewers to nominations are placed higher. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:09, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hello AirshipJungleman29, thank you and likewise. Yeah, I guess it's finally about time I try to dip my feet in that realm. --HistoryofIran (talk) 15:00, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for already getting started! I find that doing two or more reviews for every nomination is a good ratio. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:08, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Disruptor
I don't know who Patriotic afghan can be; I found no evidence of socking though it seems like a sock account. Drmies (talk) 23:02, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- @Drmies: I see. Well, at the rate they're going, they're gonna get themselves easily blocked anyways. --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:07, 3 March 2023 (UTC)