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Which photo do you think is the best?
My opinion is this: I don't like the current photo right now, Khomeini is blurry, the color correction is bad. Let's arrange a sort of opos, who likes which photo more and why. I personally like the third option: it has good colors and a look.
Roman Kubanskiy (talk) 18:52, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
Loved him in Goldfinger
- @Roman Kubanskiy: I would go with first. The second is also good. --Mhhossein talk 13:26, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Roman Kubanskiy: Your thoughts? --Mhhossein talk 12:19, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Mhhossein: I described above. Roman Kubanskiy (talk) 17:13, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Roman Kubanskiy: Your thoughts? --Mhhossein talk 12:19, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
child sex in khomeini's mind
Khomeini has a theory in his book Tahrir al-Awsiya that says that sex with an infant is not a problem in some cases. This view and his theory should be mentioned in his article Gol995 (talk) 23:30, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- Unless there are reliable sources that indicate that this is significant then probably not. Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:56, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
This particular tidbit has been rarely found in a few other Islamic sources, and is therefore not specific to him (it is also a minority view which isn't accepted as "encouraged"). The only sources this is talked about in are polemical sources. So no, this shouldn't be discussed in his page.TuaamWiki (talk) 23:36, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
You have the date wrong
Someone who knows how to edit wikipedia needs to look into this but i'm pretty sure that Ruhollah Khomeini was born in 1902 not 1900 and was 86 when he died not 89 This feels like kind of an important mistake that should really be fixed 222.154.123.187 (talk) 18:47, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- Let us have your reliable sources and we'll take a look at them. Britmax (talk) 19:08, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
What is the tabeer of seeing a dead in dream ?
Please answer 112.79.153.189 (talk) 08:28, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- You may have to rephrase the question. I don't understand it at all. Britmax (talk) 12:13, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Revert
@Britmax: according to the source I provided, Khomeini ordered attacks against Iranians protesting the new government in the 1980s ("On that day, about half a million Iranians went on a silent demonstration against the Republic. The Revolutionary Guards, following Khomeini’s orders, opened fire on the demonstrators and turned the scene into a bloodbath."[1]). Similar information is also in the section "Suppression of opposition" (in the article). Why the revert? Fad Ariff (talk) 12:03, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- Because my ability to divine all that from the edit summary " + added material " is rather limited. Britmax (talk) 12:15, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
Ruhollah
What does this name?
Khomeini is a town/city where RK comes from, but what does Khomein mean? ----MountVic127 (talk) 21:46, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Minorities under Ruhollah
Hi Louis Aragon, hm, it was a sourcible phrase on minorities in the section about minorities. We can also find a wording together. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 00:00, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- As for me I do not like to use block quotes, but he actually addresses in the phrase many minorities and not only to Kurds. Else the section could also be named on Kurds. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 00:03, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Paradise Chronicle: Not sure what you're trying to say. Based on what I can see, you cherry-picked a section of the material from the sentence written in the source and omitted the rest (you only selected the Kurds, Baluchis, and Lurs part whilst omitting the Persians and Turks part). Furthermore, you were reverted, yet you reinstated your desired revision once again. You have to reach WP:CON first on the talk page, and only then you can insert the content. - LouisAragon (talk) 10:00, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- The actual quote from the source: "Sometimes the word minorities is used to refer to people such as Kurds, Lurs, Turks, Persians, Baluchis, and such. These people should not be called minorities because this term assumes there is a difference between these brothers." Once again, how come you only selected "Kurds", "Lurs" and "Baluchis", yet omitted "Turks" and "Persians"? - LouisAragon (talk) 10:00, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- I opened a discussion right after you reverted me. You can not template me, refuse to respond in a discussion and claim your version as the correct one. You mention the omission of the Turks and the Persians, would you agree the phrase to be included if they were mentioned as well? Paradise Chronicle (talk) 12:27, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Also Persians and Turks have countries, where they (officially) constitute a majority, while Lurs, Baluchis and Kurds do not have that. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 13:44, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- "I opened a discussion right after you reverted me."
- No Paradise Chronicle. Fortunately, all diffs are recorded on Wikipedia, so you can't pull stuff from thin air. Yeah, you created a talk page section, but no less than 7 hours later you already reverted me as you tried to reinstate the content you originally added. That's WP:GAMEing and a violation of WP:TENDENTIOUS, WP:WAR and WP:CON:
- 22:52: 14 August 2022: Paradise Chronicle adds cherry-picked content from the Oxford source.[1]
- 23:21: 14 August 2022: Paradise Chronicle is reverted[2]
- 23:24: 14 August 2022: Paradise Chronicle is issued an DS:IRP adivisory notification[3]
- 00:00 15 August 2022: Paradise Chronicle creates a talk page section[4]
- 07:40 16 August 2022: Paradise Chronicle, no less than 7 hours after the creation of the talk page section, violates WP:WAR and reinstates the same biased content[5] Edit summary: " don't see an issue, see talk".
- 12:35 16 August 2022: Paradise Chronicle posts a retaliatory DS warning on LouisAragon's talk page[6]
- - LouisAragon (talk) 19:23, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- "...refuse to respond in a discussion"
- Where and how did I refuse to respond? Sorry, but if you think you are allowed to form your own rules where other editors (with busy lifes) are "ought" and "obliged" to respond to you within a fixed short time period, you are sorely mistaken.
- "and claim your version as the correct one."
- I don't "claim" anything; these are verifiable, factual arguments based on the original Oxford source as well as sound usage of Wikipedia's policies. Its very simple. Wikipedia doesn't accept WP:TENDENTIOUS editing. Also FYI; you can post all kinds of retaliatory "warnings" on my talk page you want. I expected someone who had been topic banned very recently due to making edits within the very same topic area (DS:KURDS) to thread more cautiously. Alas I was apparently mistaken. - LouisAragon (talk) 19:23, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Also Persians and Turks have countries, where they (officially) constitute a majority, while Lurs, Baluchis and Kurds do not have that. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 13:44, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- I opened a discussion right after you reverted me. You can not template me, refuse to respond in a discussion and claim your version as the correct one. You mention the omission of the Turks and the Persians, would you agree the phrase to be included if they were mentioned as well? Paradise Chronicle (talk) 12:27, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- The actual quote from the source: "Sometimes the word minorities is used to refer to people such as Kurds, Lurs, Turks, Persians, Baluchis, and such. These people should not be called minorities because this term assumes there is a difference between these brothers." Once again, how come you only selected "Kurds", "Lurs" and "Baluchis", yet omitted "Turks" and "Persians"? - LouisAragon (talk) 10:00, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Paradise Chronicle: Not sure what you're trying to say. Based on what I can see, you cherry-picked a section of the material from the sentence written in the source and omitted the rest (you only selected the Kurds, Baluchis, and Lurs part whilst omitting the Persians and Turks part). Furthermore, you were reverted, yet you reinstated your desired revision once again. You have to reach WP:CON first on the talk page, and only then you can insert the content. - LouisAragon (talk) 10:00, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- "Also Persians and Turks have countries, where they (officially) constitute a majority, while Lurs, Baluchis and Kurds do not have that."
- Ehm sorry, but we can't misinterpret/cherry-pick parts from sources just because we want to WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. Also just curious; which country in the world is the "Persian country"? Last time I checked, Iran is multi-ethnic. - LouisAragon (talk) 19:23, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- "You mention the omission of the Turks and the Persians, would you agree the phrase to be included if they were mentioned as well?"
- If the source is to be used, which in turn appears to quote Khomeini, then the "Turks" and "Persians" have be listed too. According to the source, Khomeini referred to the Turks and Persians within the same supposed context of minorities. I'm willing to make a WP:BOLD edit, per the source, if you agree, in order to get this fixed. - LouisAragon (talk) 19:23, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Go for it. Lets expand an article together.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:41, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- With go for it I meant to agree to you making the bold edit. But then I was thinking about having to add Persian myself with which I had to struggle a bit, as Persians are the majority in Iran. Maybe you have a similar conclusion maybe not, important is I have a source where Khomeini speaks about minorities and some of it could be added to the article, if anyone then opposes the wording they could adapt it to their preference instead of reverting it. And per the several comments further up in the discussion I began, I was never topic banned in the English wikipedia much less recently nor in the topic area, so I guess whoever assumes I was meant, they are mistaken.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 20:55, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Paradise Chronicle: Thanks. I just made the edit. Thoughts?[7] - LouisAragon (talk) 22:19, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. To add the differences right after the quote of the portrayed peace between Persians and Kurds is a fair description. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:45, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Great! - LouisAragon (talk) 11:31, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you. To add the differences right after the quote of the portrayed peace between Persians and Kurds is a fair description. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 22:45, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- @Paradise Chronicle: Thanks. I just made the edit. Thoughts?[7] - LouisAragon (talk) 22:19, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- With go for it I meant to agree to you making the bold edit. But then I was thinking about having to add Persian myself with which I had to struggle a bit, as Persians are the majority in Iran. Maybe you have a similar conclusion maybe not, important is I have a source where Khomeini speaks about minorities and some of it could be added to the article, if anyone then opposes the wording they could adapt it to their preference instead of reverting it. And per the several comments further up in the discussion I began, I was never topic banned in the English wikipedia much less recently nor in the topic area, so I guess whoever assumes I was meant, they are mistaken.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 20:55, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- Go for it. Lets expand an article together.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:41, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
- ^ Cohen 2009, p. 15.