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Something to be on the lookout for
https://doij.org/ An Indian publisher decided that they should just establish their own DOI system. So far I found only one on EN wiki and removed it, but really weird. Some things are too odd not to share with someone. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 16:29, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
Hi, regarding this edit: it's in-depth but not independent, because Carol Bean is involved with this journal (you have to do a Google search to see this). --Randykitty (talk) 09:37, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
Why do you claim that Dr. Hansson is not a notable person?
Headbomb removed my addition of Johan Hansson as a notable person, because Headbomb claims that Dr. Hansson needs an article to be notable. But, a criteria for notability states: "The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level." Dr. Hansson won honorable mention from the Gravity Research Foundation in 2023, which is a highly prestigious academic award. Gravity Research Foundation Dr. Hansson has met the criteria for notability. What say you Headbomb? ScooterMcGruff (talk) 10:59, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- If you have a look at the website of that foundation here, that will put this "highly prestigious academic award" in perspective. An "honorable mention" is not an award, least of all a "highly prestigious academic award" as required by WP:PROF. --Randykitty (talk) 11:38, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Every prize will describe themselves as highly prestigious. It's a 4000$ prize for an essay. I've had bigger awards as a high school student. And Hansson didn't even get it. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:42, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- The Gravity Research Foundation honor is prestigious among physicists researching gravity. The honor has been previously given to Nobel prize winners. The wiki page on the Gravity Research Foundation says as much: Gravity Research Foundation - Wikipedia. The University of Arizona also said this is a prestigfous award: 'The Noise of Gravitons': ASU physicists win prestigious award for gravity research | ASU News " ScooterMcGruff (talk) 11:48, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- An honorable mention is an "honor" under the notability criteria mentioned above. It does not have to be an "award," because an "honor" also meets the criteria. ScooterMcGruff (talk) 11:43, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- It fails the criteria by about 20,000 miles. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:44, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- How so? It meets the criteria that ""The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level." Dr. Hansson received a highly prestigious honor from the Gravity Research Foundation, which is at the national level. You're just wrong. ScooterMcGruff (talk) 11:50, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- It's a minor prize, and he hasn't even won it. And from the way you keep pushing for Hansson all over wikipedia, you'll very likely end up getting blocked as disruptive single-purpose account. And at this point, I have to ask, do you have a connection with Hansson? Are you him? A student of his? A family member? Something else? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:54, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- I am not connected to Hansson at all. And it's not a minor honor, but a highly prestigious academic honor. ScooterMcGruff (talk) 11:56, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- This year the honor was given to 51 people in total if I count correctly. That's quite dilute for "highly prestigious". Jähmefyysikko (talk) 12:25, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- I am not connected to Hansson at all. And it's not a minor honor, but a highly prestigious academic honor. ScooterMcGruff (talk) 11:56, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- It's a minor prize, and he hasn't even won it. And from the way you keep pushing for Hansson all over wikipedia, you'll very likely end up getting blocked as disruptive single-purpose account. And at this point, I have to ask, do you have a connection with Hansson? Are you him? A student of his? A family member? Something else? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:54, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- How so? It meets the criteria that ""The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level." Dr. Hansson received a highly prestigious honor from the Gravity Research Foundation, which is at the national level. You're just wrong. ScooterMcGruff (talk) 11:50, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- It fails the criteria by about 20,000 miles. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:44, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- Every prize will describe themselves as highly prestigious. It's a 4000$ prize for an essay. I've had bigger awards as a high school student. And Hansson didn't even get it. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:42, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- The foundation themselves talk about awards and honorable mentions as two different things. In addition, if I understand correctly, the competition is based on essays that are written specifically for it. Given how busy scientists are nowadays writing articles, grants, progress reports, and whatnot, I wonder how many people actually compete. Are the honorable mentions just those participants who didn't win one of the 5 awards? As for notability, this person has no GScholar profile (the profile for Johan Hansson is for a physician) but as far as I can see, his most cited article gets a paltry 29 hits. I don't see any evidence of notability here, just a breathless press release from the subject's university. --Randykitty (talk) 12:57, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
Its history is what I thought it was. It was founded by Roger Babson to do research into anti-gravity shielding or other comparable means of messing with gravity. That leaves questions as to how prestigious any award by the foundation is. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:20, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- My impression from the Wikipedia article is that it started at as a nutter's dream, but became more legitimate over time after Babson died.
- And remains an utterly inconsequential organization with comparable prestige to a popular student bar or some minor local association. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:40, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
Reliable sources
@Headbomb: Perhaps you can help me with reliable sources. My comments are here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Physics/Taskforces/Glass#Fostoria Glass company sources. Do you know who I should contact about these sources? TwoScars (talk) 16:50, 1 July 2023 (UTC)