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Scoring question
Why is ITN 12 points? It is the only one that isn't a multiple of 5, and I cannot tell why. QuicoleJR (talk) 03:53, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- QuicoleJR, I believe it was originally 10 points, but was increased in 2020 because it wasn't a viable way of scoring points. Because no interwiki multipliers apply to it, it doesn't have to be a multiple of 5. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:33, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- Another scoring question: I nominated an article for FAC on December 24. If it's promoted sometime this month, does it count for WikiCup? Thanks, voorts (talk/contributions) 02:06, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Voorts, yes it does. – Epicgenius (talk) 02:22, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
This year's timetable
Since this is a leap year, should the initial WikiCup time period be January 1 through February 27 rather than the given January 1 through February 26? There's usually a two day break between the two-month contest sections, but with 29 days in February, wouldn't it be better to give an extra day in 2024?
Looking back at the previous leap year WikiCups, 2012 used February 26, 2016 used February 27, and 2020 used February 26. So, no consistency. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:24, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks BlueMoonset. The extra day in February would be logical. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 15:18, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- I agree (might be slightly more work for us, but it seems fair to the contestants). – Epicgenius (talk) 17:38, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
What are the rules?
Hi there WikiCup Judges,
what are the rules of the WikiCup? TheTeam219 (talk) TheTeam219 (talk) 11:37, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring? Harrias (he/him) • talk 12:15, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Does content nominated last year but not promoted until this year count for points?
I looked over the rules and what it seems like is no but the wording is a bit specific. I was just hoping for clarification. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 23:53, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes it does OlifanofmrTennant. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:58, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- As a judge, I can confirm that Airship is correct. It doesn't matter when the content was nominated, only when it was promoted and whether you worked on it significantly. Epicgenius (talk) 01:22, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Bonus points
I don't quite understand why I was accorded bonus points. I don't think that my DYK for Eustace Tilley should get any bonus points. What are the bonus points for?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:54, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- I'm also not sure why it got 8 additional points. Those points should have been from the article being suitably old. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 11:58, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- My thinking is that the bot somehow got confused, since the page itself was created in 2004 as a redirect. Based on the scoring rules, 8 bonus points would correspond to an article originally created in 2014, which is interesting because the article wasn't even edited once in 2014. An article could theoretically get bonus points from interwikis, but no other language articles are linked to the present article. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:56, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- I believe the bot thinks that the adding of categories in 2015 counted as starting the article, because that would mean an eight-year existence, but I may be wrong. I'll ask the bot owner. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:38, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- I also think the category edits may have tricked the bot. I can modify the score manually if you want @TonyTheTiger. – Epicgenius (talk) 00:23, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- Based on the comments immediately below, I think we've confirmed it was the categories that tricked the bot. That would move the year the bot thinks the article was created to 2015 rather than 2014. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:24, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- I believe the bot thinks that the adding of categories in 2015 counted as starting the article, because that would mean an eight-year existence, but I may be wrong. I'll ask the bot owner. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:38, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- My thinking is that the bot somehow got confused, since the page itself was created in 2004 as a redirect. Based on the scoring rules, 8 bonus points would correspond to an article originally created in 2014, which is interesting because the article wasn't even edited once in 2014. An article could theoretically get bonus points from interwikis, but no other language articles are linked to the present article. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 21:56, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
I encourage the judges to take a look at this and update as appropriate. From a glance, I note that it describes itself as clarifying the rules for the 2023 WikiCup; years for the calculation of bonus points have not been updated (is that deliberate?); and the 'what's changed from last year' section (presumably?) refers actually to changes between the 2022 and 2023 competition. Josh Milburn (talk) 09:22, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- I've talked to Jarry, the bot owner, and have updated the page accordingly. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:32, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for doing the updates. It seems like updating the rules to reflect the current year completely slipped my mind... Epicgenius (talk) 04:25, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Exciting
We've got this year the highest participation since 2017 (116 currently, +27 from last year) and 29 people who have scored points in the first four days! Exciting! BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:25, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Like ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:26, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Holy cow. TWOrantulaTM (enter the web) 06:07, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Let's make it a competitive one! 2022 is the only time in the last 10 years, I believe, where a single point (or the minimum possible of 5) didn't see you through to the second round. — Bilorv (talk) 16:28, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Withdrawing
Hi, can I withdraw from the cup please? I have too much going on and I don't want one more stressful thing here, I prefer to leave it to people who are having fun with it! ChaotıċEnby(t · c) 00:54, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- This may be a record for earliest withdrawal! I mean, if it makes you less stressed then sure, but you're on 0 points you're not really preventing anyone from progressing (which is the normal point of withdrawing). ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:02, 7 January 2024 (UTC)